Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hello google - natural cure to thyroid enlargement There is plenty of information. Sound like you live in the middle of country instead of city. Jay Thyroid Growth Hi all, I just received my ultrasound results today from my thyroid. I have a lump which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I never noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal ranges for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about a cm (1/2 inch) diameter. The mass grew quickly as nobody noticed it before the day the doctor saw it. It does no feel like a hard mass all the time but if I am stressed It does seem more prominent. All my blood test results are all with-in their normal ranges: TSH (CE) 1.910 normal range is 0.35 - 5.0 mIU/L. She is sending me to 2 different surgeons. One is convenient because he comes to my town once per month, and the other is an Endocrine Surgeon. Both are 300 km away. She is now going on holidays so nothing will be done for several weeks likely. So I would like to know what if any alternative modes will help support the thyroid. I have done a 10 day master cleanse a month ago, which I saw no difference in the lump much one way or the other. I am thinking of doing some more deep tissue cleanses. Kelp has been suggested, but is there any one type better than the other? G Murray P.S. I have had my gall bladder removed, a hysterectomy, and they say I have an enlarged spleen and fatty liver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Small city or large town (~8000 people), just no health services any more. Thank you G Jay Grosflam wrote: > > Hello > > google - natural cure to thyroid enlargement > > There is plenty of information. > > Sound like you live in the middle of country instead of city. > > Jay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 town - maybe a village...large? Re: Thyroid Growth Small city or large town (~8000 people), just no health services any more. Thank you G Jay Grosflam wrote: > > Hello > > google - natural cure to thyroid enlargement > > There is plenty of information. > > Sound like you live in the middle of country instead of city. > > Jay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hi G, The herbs and supplements that I mentioned to Fred may be very helpful. The reason for kelp is mostly the iodine content but this is because goiter (enlargement of the thyroid) was darn near pandemic years ago and often it stems from iodine deficiency. This is very uncommon now in our culture with the iodinizing of salt and the like. They are imaging a lump not " thyroid enlargement " . Curious as to why it took 2 months from the point that the doctor noticed it to the time that you get the results back from the ultrasound (ultrasound is available immediately on imaging). even a town of 8 thousand would probably have ultrasound equipment. noticed that you are talking in km not miles though... are you down under? the surgeon is going to want to do one of 2 things; Biopsy or remove the lump. My recommendation is to have the lump removed, they can do all the pathology reports off of the whole lump as they would be able to do off of a biopsy. The path report is what is going to determine your best course of action. The sooner you have it done the better. In the mean time, the support already mentioned can only help. All the best, -D Thyroid Growth Hi all, I just received my ultrasound results today from my thyroid. I have a lump which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I never noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal ranges for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about a cm (1/2 inch) diameter. The mass grew quickly as nobody noticed it before the day the doctor saw it. It does no feel like a hard mass all the time but if I am stressed It does seem more prominent. All my blood test results are all with-in their normal ranges: TSH (CE) 1.910 normal range is 0.35 - 5.0 mIU/L. She is sending me to 2 different surgeons. One is convenient because he comes to my town once per month, and the other is an Endocrine Surgeon. Both are 300 km away. She is now going on holidays so nothing will be done for several weeks likely. So I would like to know what if any alternative modes will help support the thyroid. I have done a 10 day master cleanse a month ago, which I saw no difference in the lump much one way or the other. I am thinking of doing some more deep tissue cleanses. Kelp has been suggested, but is there any one type better than the other? G Murray P.S. I have had my gall bladder removed, a hysterectomy, and they say I have an enlarged spleen and fatty liver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Kelp is a natural source of iodine. If you are low on iodine, you can buy some tincture at the drugstore and spear it on your skin. If you need it, it will absorb through the skin. My chiropractor told me this years ago. I like the kelp that comes in a "salt shaker". Add it to foods after they are cooked like you would salt. Here's something I found in junk mail on thyroid: "...Because these artificially processed soy foods contain huge levels of phytates and goitrogens - substances that are well-known to depress your thyroid. This has been well-established for over 50 years. And women with an underactive thyroid often feel sluggish, depressed and gain large amounts of weight. What to do. Stick to traditional, femented soy products like miso, tempeh and especially tofu. It's the fermentation that brings out he beneficial compounds and suppresses the bad ones." Source: Alternatives, Mountain Home Publishing, P.O. Box 2000, Ranson, WV 25438-2000; 1-800-844-1462 Have you done the Beck protocol? barbG Murray <healthlist@...> wrote: Hi all,I just received my ultrasound results today from my thyroid. I have a lump which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I never noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal ranges for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about a cm (1/2 inch) diameter. The mass grew quickly as nobody noticed it before the day the doctor saw it. It does no feel like a hard mass all the time but if I am stressed It does seem more prominent.All my blood test results are all with-in their normal ranges:TSH (CE) 1.910 normal range is 0.35 - 5.0 mIU/L.She is sending me to 2 different surgeons. One is convenient because he comes to my town once per month, and the other is an Endocrine Surgeon. Both are 300 km away. She is now going on holidays so nothing will be done for several weeks likely. So I would like to know what if any alternative modes will help support the thyroid. I have done a 10 day master cleanse a month ago, which I saw no difference in the lump much one way or the other. I am thinking of doing some more deep tissue cleanses. Kelp has been suggested, but is there any one type better than the other?G MurrayP.S. I have had my gall bladder removed, a hysterectomy, and they say I have an enlarged spleen and fatty liver. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 A TSH of 1.910 is not normal by many doctor's standards. I believe the standard that most doctors use to use was around <5.0 or possibly <5.5 for normal. Then, the rule of thumb changed to <3.0. But many doctors believe that 3.0 is still much too high. My doctor said that he would like to see my TSH below 1.0. My son is hypothyroid and his TSH is currently 1.8. There is no one indicator of improper thyroid function. That is why you have to look at several factors to assess if there is a problem or not. However, if you had to pick one, it would probably be body temperature for hypothyroid. With all of that said, the BIG mistake that many doctors make is assessing/treating based on TSH alone. Your " free T4 " and your symptoms also need to be assessed. In fact some think that TSH is really only useful for assessing pituitary function. But, a good doctor will look at all three - TSH, free T4, and symptoms (and perhaps a few other things like free T3, cortisol levels, etc.). Then during the treatment, you should monitor with your doctor to make sure that your TSH is being reduced, your free T4 is in the upper end of the range, and your symptoms are diminishing. There are millions of people in this country that are untreated or undertreated for thyroid problems. One estimate that I read is that 80% of all people on anti-depressants on on them due to undertreated thyroid problems. I have a tendancy to believe that. For many doctors, once your TSH gets into their " normal " range (whatever is normal for them), they declare your thyroid as normal when in fact it is not in most cases. My recommendation to anyone who suspects thyroid issues: 1) Do your homework, learn as much as you can, so that you can work with your doctor to make sure that you are getting proper care. 2) Find a doctor who is thorough and will work with you. This may not be easy as most doctors do not do a good job with thyroid problems. It would be nice to be able to waltz into a doctor's office, get assessed, and treated, and off you go - cured. But that is not going to happen in most cases. Good luck to you... > > Hi all, > > I just received my ultrasound results today from my thyroid. I have a > lump which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I > never noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal > ranges for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about > a cm (1/2 inch) diameter. The mass grew quickly as nobody noticed it > before the day the doctor saw it. It does no feel like a hard mass all > the time but if I am stressed It does seem more prominent. > > All my blood test results are all with-in their normal ranges: > TSH (CE) 1.910 normal range is 0.35 - 5.0 mIU/L. > > She is sending me to 2 different surgeons. One is convenient because he > comes to my town once per month, and the other is an Endocrine > Surgeon. Both are 300 km away. She is now going on holidays so > nothing will be done for several weeks likely. > > So I would like to know what if any alternative modes will help support > the thyroid. I have done a 10 day master cleanse a month ago, which I > saw no difference in the lump much one way or the other. I am thinking > of doing some more deep tissue cleanses. Kelp has been suggested, but > is there any one type better than the other? > > G Murray > > P.S. I have had my gall bladder removed, a hysterectomy, and they say I > have an enlarged spleen and fatty liver. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Hi Dave, I was not very clear. It took 2 months to get the ultrasound done from the time the Dr. found it. It took 24 hours from the the ultrasound to get in and see the Dr. for the results. Sorry...I was a little stressed when I wrote the first email. I am in fact up top. I the land of backward health care...Canada. I am also about as far from nowhere as you can get in my locale. I am presuming they will likely do both. the Fine needle aspiration then removal depending on results. They seem to like to play around and take their time with any treatment that they do. I am not thrilled with losing another body part. The first part was lost due to ignorance on my part 11 years ago. The second was lost just over a year ago due to extreme heavy bleeding that would not stop. This time I would like to have some alternative options. I am on kelp and organically bound iodine. Is there a better form than pacific kelp? I can't find Lugols or nascent iodine here in any health food store. They are checking for me. G Dave Shelden wrote: > > Hi G, > > The herbs and supplements that I mentioned to Fred may be very > helpful. The reason for kelp is mostly the iodine content but this is > because goiter (enlargement of the thyroid) was darn near pandemic > years ago and often it stems from iodine deficiency. This is very > uncommon now in our culture with the iodinizing of salt and the like. > They are imaging a lump not " thyroid enlargement " . Curious as to why > it took 2 months from the point that the doctor noticed it to the time > that you get the results back from the ultrasound (ultrasound is > available immediately on imaging). even a town of 8 thousand would > probably have ultrasound equipment. noticed that you are talking in km > not miles though... are you down under? the surgeon is going to want > to do one of 2 things; Biopsy or remove the lump. My recommendation is > to have the lump removed, they can do all the pathology reports off of > the whole lump as they would be able to do off of a biopsy. The path > report is what is going to determine your best course of action. The > sooner you have it done the better. In the mean time, the support > already mentioned can only help. All the best, -D > Thyroid Growth > > Hi all, > > I just received my ultrasound results today from my thyroid. I have a > lump which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I > never noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal > ranges for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about > a cm (1/2 inch) diameter. The mass grew quickly as nobody noticed it > before the day the doctor saw it. It does no feel like a hard mass all > the time but if I am stressed It does seem more prominent. > > All my blood test results are all with-in their normal ranges: > TSH (CE) 1.910 normal range is 0.35 - 5.0 mIU/L. > > She is sending me to 2 different surgeons. One is convenient because he > comes to my town once per month, and the other is an Endocrine > Surgeon. Both are 300 km away. She is now going on holidays so > nothing will be done for several weeks likely. > > So I would like to know what if any alternative modes will help support > the thyroid. I have done a 10 day master cleanse a month ago, which I > saw no difference in the lump much one way or the other. I am thinking > of doing some more deep tissue cleanses. Kelp has been suggested, but > is there any one type better than the other? > > G Murray > > P.S. I have had my gall bladder removed, a hysterectomy, and they say I > have an enlarged spleen and fatty liver. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Hi G, You were very clear, I was trying to figure out why when the dr. found it in the first place they didn't have you in for the ultrasound immediately. My recommendation for removal instead of biopsy is based on the statistical differences between the 2 if God forbid, there is malignancy involved. In breast cancer at least one is far better off with a lumpectomy versus a biopsy. It has to do with invasion of the lump and the subsequent healing reactions. You can probably find Lugol's at a regular drug store. For large quantities of iodine it is going to be better than kelp only 'cuz you got to eat a hundred pounds of the stuff to get the same amount. Just read a very interesting article on the health benefits of large quantities of iodine (they were using Lugol's). Pacific Kelp is as good or better as any other kelp (especially if collected off of the BC coast). The heavy bleeding was most likely endocrine and hormone imbalance as well. While removing the uterus cures the symptom of bleeding, it doesn't straighten out the hormonal imbalance that causes it. And if they do a " total " and take the ovaries too it further throws the endocrine hormones whacky. Don't let them take your thyroid or irradiate it into oblivion unless you deem it necessary. They have thyroid hormones so think that you don't need the organ... idiots. So for them just ripping everything out and putting you on hormones is no big deal, and pretty easy. The only thing that would warrant removal is if there was some type of C and it was involved in the organ. All the best, let me know how I/We can help. -D Thyroid Growth > > Hi all, > > I just received my ultrasound results today from my thyroid. I have a > lump which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I > never noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal > ranges for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about > a cm (1/2 inch) diameter. The mass grew quickly as nobody noticed it > before the day the doctor saw it. It does no feel like a hard mass all > the time but if I am stressed It does seem more prominent. > > All my blood test results are all with-in their normal ranges: > TSH (CE) 1.910 normal range is 0.35 - 5.0 mIU/L. > > She is sending me to 2 different surgeons. One is convenient because he > comes to my town once per month, and the other is an Endocrine > Surgeon. Both are 300 km away. She is now going on holidays so > nothing will be done for several weeks likely. > > So I would like to know what if any alternative modes will help support > the thyroid. I have done a 10 day master cleanse a month ago, which I > saw no difference in the lump much one way or the other. I am thinking > of doing some more deep tissue cleanses. Kelp has been suggested, but > is there any one type better than the other? > > G Murray > > P.S. I have had my gall bladder removed, a hysterectomy, and they say I > have an enlarged spleen and fatty liver. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I have a brochure from Wellness Resources. They make an iodine product among other things. They state that they do not put kelp in any of their products because it may not be absorbable and it may actually irritate the thyroid. What do you guys think of that? Do you think it is marketing hype to push their iodine product or not? > > > > Hi G, > > > > The herbs and supplements that I mentioned to Fred may be very > > helpful. The reason for kelp is mostly the iodine content but this is > > because goiter (enlargement of the thyroid) was darn near pandemic > > years ago and often it stems from iodine deficiency. This is very > > uncommon now in our culture with the iodinizing of salt and the like. > > They are imaging a lump not " thyroid enlargement " . Curious as to why > > it took 2 months from the point that the doctor noticed it to the time > > that you get the results back from the ultrasound (ultrasound is > > available immediately on imaging). even a town of 8 thousand would > > probably have ultrasound equipment. noticed that you are talking in km > > not miles though... are you down under? the surgeon is going to want > > to do one of 2 things; Biopsy or remove the lump. My recommendation is > > to have the lump removed, they can do all the pathology reports off of > > the whole lump as they would be able to do off of a biopsy. The path > > report is what is going to determine your best course of action. The > > sooner you have it done the better. In the mean time, the support > > already mentioned can only help. All the best, -D > > Thyroid Growth > > > > Hi all, > > > > I just received my ultrasound results today from my thyroid. I have a > > lump which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I > > never noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal > > ranges for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about > > a cm (1/2 inch) diameter. The mass grew quickly as nobody noticed it > > before the day the doctor saw it. It does no feel like a hard mass all > > the time but if I am stressed It does seem more prominent. > > > > All my blood test results are all with-in their normal ranges: > > TSH (CE) 1.910 normal range is 0.35 - 5.0 mIU/L. > > > > She is sending me to 2 different surgeons. One is convenient because he > > comes to my town once per month, and the other is an Endocrine > > Surgeon. Both are 300 km away. She is now going on holidays so > > nothing will be done for several weeks likely. > > > > So I would like to know what if any alternative modes will help support > > the thyroid. I have done a 10 day master cleanse a month ago, which I > > saw no difference in the lump much one way or the other. I am thinking > > of doing some more deep tissue cleanses. Kelp has been suggested, but > > is there any one type better than the other? > > > > G Murray > > > > P.S. I have had my gall bladder removed, a hysterectomy, and they say I > > have an enlarged spleen and fatty liver. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Do not do kelp - please! It has been show to contain high levels of arsenic and other toxic halides. You need iodine and you need it bad. If I were in your shoes I would do the following: 50 mgs Iodine 400 mcg Selenium 3,000 - 5,000 mg Vit C 1/2 Tsp Celtic Salt 400 mgs Magnesium 25,000 iU Vit A (from both fish and carrot sources) I would bet you could get that nodule down in a few weeks time. It would be very good for the rest of your body too. Best of luck! Thyroid Growth > Hi all, > > I just received my ultrasound results from my thyroid. I have a lump > which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I never > noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal ranges > for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about a cm > (1/2 inch) diameter. The mass grew quickly as nobody noticed it before > the day the doctor saw it. It does no feel like a hard mass all the > time but if I am stressed It does seem more prominent. > > All my blood test results are all with-in their normal ranges: > TSH (CE) 1.910 normal range is 0.35 - 5.0 mIU/L. > > She is sending me to 2 different surgeons. One is convenient because he > comes to my town once per month, and the other is an Endocrine > Surgeon. Both are 300 km away. She is now going on holidays so > nothing will be done for several weeks likely. > So I would like to know what if any alternative modes will help support > the thyroid. I have done a 10 day master cleanse a month ago, which I > saw no difference in the lump much one way or the other. I am thinking > of doing some more deep tissue cleanses. Kelp has been suggested, but > is there any one type better than the other? > > G Murray > > P.S. I have had my gall bladder removed, a hysterectomy, and they say I > have an enlarged spleen and fatty liver. > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Hi Steph, I have an appointment with an otolyryngology head and neck surgeon in the next 2 weeks. I am sure he will do 1 of 2 things. Biopsy and surgery or just surgery. Do you have any suggestions for questions to the surgeon? Or any other alternative treatments besides what you have listed as supplements? I am already on organically bound iodine, magnesium citrate and magnesium gel, selenium and am taking a good multi-vitamin, but will up the Vit. A & C as well. The iodine says 0.25 mg per drop. I was starting out at a couple of drops 2-3 times per day. Should I be taking 100 drops per day??? Thank you for any and information, G Murray ladybugsandbees wrote: > > Do not do kelp - please! It has been show to contain high levels of > arsenic > and other toxic halides. You need iodine and you need it bad. If I > were in > your shoes I would do the following: > > 50 mgs Iodine > 400 mcg Selenium > 3,000 - 5,000 mg Vit C > 1/2 Tsp Celtic Salt > 400 mgs Magnesium > 25,000 iU Vit A (from both fish and carrot sources) > > I would bet you could get that nodule down in a few weeks time. It > would be > very good for the rest of your body too. > > Best of luck! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " G Murray " > > > Hi all, > > > > I just received my ultrasound results from my thyroid. I have a lump > > which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I never > > noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal ranges > > for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about a cm > > (1/2 inch) diameter. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 There is no other treatment for goiter / nodules - it's iodine, iodine, iodine. My guess is you are only getting one form of it unless it is Lugol's formula which contains iodine and iodide. .25 mgs isn't going to do diddly. You need to get it up there and fast. I take 100 mgs of Lugol's formula in pill form of Iodoral. It sounds like you are overseas am I correct? www.breastcancerchoices.org will ship overseas (Iodoral that is). www.illnessisoptional.com has the 50 mg tablets and will ship overseas too. The surgeon will probably want to do a fine needle biopsy and then say " let's take it out to be sure " . They love to cut things out - that's their job. *shaking head* Remember it is your body. You control what happens to it and no one makes you do thing quickly but you. I let them do it to me and now I am so sorry I didn't know that I could have tried to heal. It takes time to heal naturally because you did not get to where you are overnight. Re: Thyroid Growth > Hi Steph, > > I have an appointment with an otolyryngology head and neck surgeon in > the next 2 weeks. I am sure he will do 1 of 2 things. Biopsy and > surgery or just surgery. > > Do you have any suggestions for questions to the surgeon? > > Or any other alternative treatments besides what you have listed as > supplements? > > I am already on organically bound iodine, magnesium citrate and > magnesium gel, selenium and am taking a good multi-vitamin, but will up > the Vit. A & C as well. The iodine says 0.25 mg per drop. I was > starting out at a couple of drops 2-3 times per day. > > Should I be taking 100 drops per day??? > > Thank you for any and information, > G Murray > > ladybugsandbees wrote: >> >> Do not do kelp - please! It has been show to contain high levels of >> arsenic >> and other toxic halides. You need iodine and you need it bad. If I >> were in >> your shoes I would do the following: >> >> 50 mgs Iodine >> 400 mcg Selenium >> 3,000 - 5,000 mg Vit C >> 1/2 Tsp Celtic Salt >> 400 mgs Magnesium >> 25,000 iU Vit A (from both fish and carrot sources) >> >> I would bet you could get that nodule down in a few weeks time. It >> would be >> very good for the rest of your body too. >> >> Best of luck! >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: " G Murray " >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I just received my ultrasound results from my thyroid. I have a lump >> > which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I never >> > noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal ranges >> > for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about a cm >> > (1/2 inch) diameter. >> > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 I tried kelp years ago and distinctly recall not liking the reaction I received from it. The taste was not agreeable and that usually is a good indicator as far as I'm concerned. > > Do not do kelp - please! It has been show to contain high levels of arsenic > and other toxic halides. You need iodine and you need it bad. If I were in > your shoes I would do the following: > > 50 mgs Iodine > 400 mcg Selenium > 3,000 - 5,000 mg Vit C > 1/2 Tsp Celtic Salt > 400 mgs Magnesium > 25,000 iU Vit A (from both fish and carrot sources) > > I would bet you could get that nodule down in a few weeks time. It would be > very good for the rest of your body too. > > Best of luck! > > > > > Thyroid Growth > > > > Hi all, > > > > I just received my ultrasound results from my thyroid. I have a lump > > which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I never > > noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal ranges > > for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about a cm > > (1/2 inch) diameter. The mass grew quickly as nobody noticed it before > > the day the doctor saw it. It does no feel like a hard mass all the > > time but if I am stressed It does seem more prominent. > > > > All my blood test results are all with-in their normal ranges: > > TSH (CE) 1.910 normal range is 0.35 - 5.0 mIU/L. > > > > She is sending me to 2 different surgeons. One is convenient because he > > comes to my town once per month, and the other is an Endocrine > > Surgeon. Both are 300 km away. She is now going on holidays so > > nothing will be done for several weeks likely. > > So I would like to know what if any alternative modes will help support > > the thyroid. I have done a 10 day master cleanse a month ago, which I > > saw no difference in the lump much one way or the other. I am thinking > > of doing some more deep tissue cleanses. Kelp has been suggested, but > > is there any one type better than the other? > > > > G Murray > > > > P.S. I have had my gall bladder removed, a hysterectomy, and they say I > > have an enlarged spleen and fatty liver. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Question about that iodine dose.I am gradually increasing the iodoral/iodine & iodidefrom 12.5 to possibly 50 mg, currently at 37mg.Is there a reason to or not to jump in at 50mg of iodine/iodoral?Thanks,AliOn Aug 27, 2008, at 8:32 AM, G Murray wrote:Hi Steph,I have an appointment with an otolyryngology head and neck surgeon in the next 2 weeks. I am sure he will do 1 of 2 things. Biopsy and surgery or just surgery. Do you have any suggestions for questions to the surgeon? Or any other alternative treatments besides what you have listed as supplements? I am already on organically bound iodine, magnesium citrate and magnesium gel, selenium and am taking a good multi-vitamin, but will up the Vit. A & C as well. The iodine says 0.25 mg per drop. I was starting out at a couple of drops 2-3 times per day. Should I be taking 100 drops per day???Thank you for any and information,G Murrayladybugsandbees wrote:>> Do not do kelp - please! It has been show to contain high levels of > arsenic> and other toxic halides. You need iodine and you need it bad. If I > were in> your shoes I would do the following:>> 50 mgs Iodine> 400 mcg Selenium> 3,000 - 5,000 mg Vit C> 1/2 Tsp Celtic Salt> 400 mgs Magnesium> 25,000 iU Vit A (from both fish and carrot sources)>> I would bet you could get that nodule down in a few weeks time. It > would be> very good for the rest of your body too.>> Best of luck!>> >> ----- Original Message -----> From: "G Murray">> > Hi all,> >> > I just received my ultrasound results from my thyroid. I have a lump> > which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I never> > noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal ranges> > for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about a cm> > (1/2 inch) diameter.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 I have 7 nodules, enlarged thyroid and a goiter, I am due for a new ultrasound here soon, but the last ones showed that my nodules had even shrunk some from taking Iodoral. Who knows how long I had them but these little and big gems got discovered in 2000 and so far I’ve kept em……… The new Endro was a little concerned when she felt around my neck and found a big one………but I assured her it was just probably on of the 7………but we will check to make sure number 8 hasn’t arrived………. Boy I need to order some more Iodoral…………. SeaLady ____________________________________________________________ Security Camera for your small business. Click Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 No it really is personal comfort. I started right out on 50 mgs of Iodoral. No problems. Steph Re: Thyroid Growth Question about that iodine dose. I am gradually increasing the iodoral/iodine & iodide from 12.5 to possibly 50 mg, currently at 37mg. Is there a reason to or not to jump in at 50mg of iodine/iodoral? Thanks, Ali On Aug 27, 2008, at 8:32 AM, G Murray wrote: Hi Steph,I have an appointment with an otolyryngology head and neck surgeon in the next 2 weeks. I am sure he will do 1 of 2 things. Biopsy and surgery or just surgery. Do you have any suggestions for questions to the surgeon? Or any other alternative treatments besides what you have listed as supplements? I am already on organically bound iodine, magnesium citrate and magnesium gel, selenium and am taking a good multi-vitamin, but will up the Vit. A & C as well. The iodine says 0.25 mg per drop. I was starting out at a couple of drops 2-3 times per day. Should I be taking 100 drops per day???Thank you for any and information,G Murrayladybugsandbees wrote:>> Do not do kelp - please! It has been show to contain high levels of > arsenic> and other toxic halides. You need iodine and you need it bad. If I > were in> your shoes I would do the following:>> 50 mgs Iodine> 400 mcg Selenium> 3,000 - 5,000 mg Vit C> 1/2 Tsp Celtic Salt> 400 mgs Magnesium> 25,000 iU Vit A (from both fish and carrot sources)>> I would bet you could get that nodule down in a few weeks time. It > would be> very good for the rest of your body too.>> Best of luck!>> >> ----- Original Message -----> From: "G Murray">> > Hi all,> >> > I just received my ultrasound results from my thyroid. I have a lump> > which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I never> > noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal ranges> > for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about a cm> > (1/2 inch) diameter.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Hello from a Lurker, Posted by: " ladybugsandbees " ladybugsandbees@... stephanie_a_buist Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:38 am (PDT) There is no other treatment for goiter / nodules - it's iodine, iodine, iodine. Where were you when I needed to hear this? <g> Hindsight is great but gosh I wish our doctors were not so knife-happy. The surgeon will probably want to do a fine needle biopsy and then say " let's take it out to be sure " . They love to cut things out - that's their job. *shaking head* Remember it is your body. You control what happens to it and no one makes you do thing quickly but you. I let them do it to me and now I am so sorry I didn't know that I could have tried to heal. It takes time to heal naturally because you did not get to where you are overnight. , I have been down the same path and am also sorry I did not know then what I know now. My doctor used the scare tactic and assured me I had cancer (no one in my family has had cancer). I had a total thyroidectomy in 2004 and everything was benign. I had also had a total hysterectomy in '82 - again benign. I am on BHRT, and 2 grains Armour now, plus some compounded, slow-release T3. I take 50 mg Iodoral a day, plus selenium, vitamin C, etc... SAMe helped the depression. But my hair has thinned horribly in the last year. My labs put free T3 in a good range, but free T4 is low, TSH - ha! - is ..03. My cortisol tests suggest my adrenals are barely keeping up with the all the B vitamins I take. (I also eat free-range, pastured poultry & meats and wild fish, so I get enough protein.) My holistic doctor is locked on the TSH and will not increase my Armour dose so I am about to do so myself, and step up slowly. What suggestions can you give me? Thanks, Lynnette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 I was reading and thinking - wow she needs more armour. The normal thyroid gland produces between 3-5 grains of thyroid hormone. I take 4/ day. 2 is not enough. What is your FT3 number and range? I'll bet it isn't good at all. I went through 5 doctors in 6 years until I found one to help me. I'll bet your thyroid levels are a big part of your problems. You seem to be doing the right things. Re: Thyroid Growth Hello from a Lurker, Posted by: "ladybugsandbees" ladybugsandbees@... stephanie_a_buist Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:38 am (PDT) There is no other treatment for goiter / nodules - it's iodine, iodine, iodine. Where were you when I needed to hear this? <g> Hindsight is great but gosh I wish our doctors were not so knife-happy. The surgeon will probably want to do a fine needle biopsy and then say "let's take it out to be sure". They love to cut things out - that's their job. *shaking head* Remember it is your body. You control what happens to it and no one makes you do thing quickly but you. I let them do it to me and now I am so sorry I didn't know that I could have tried to heal. It takes time to heal naturally because you did not get to where you are overnight. , I have been down the same path and am also sorry I did not know then what I know now. My doctor used the scare tactic and assured me I had cancer (no one in my family has had cancer). I had a total thyroidectomy in 2004 and everything was benign. I had also had a total hysterectomy in '82 - again benign.I am on BHRT, and 2 grains Armour now, plus some compounded, slow-release T3. I take 50 mg Iodoral a day, plus selenium, vitamin C, etc... SAMe helped the depression. But my hair has thinned horribly in the last year. My labs put free T3 in a good range, but free T4 is low, TSH - ha! - is .03. My cortisol tests suggest my adrenals are barely keeping up with the all the B vitamins I take. (I also eat free-range, pastured poultry & meats and wild fish, so I get enough protein.)My holistic doctor is locked on the TSH and will not increase my Armour dose so I am about to do so myself, and step up slowly. What suggestions can you give me?Thanks,Lynnette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 A coworker of mine was just going to have her intire thyroid removed because of a growth. They did a biopsy and came back with just the answer I told her they would (because of all I have heard from all of you), that it is inconclusive so we HAVE to remove it. I begged her not to let them remove it and to begin taking iodine. She is a nurse so, was very hard to talk her out of it. She ended up letting them remove the half where the tumor/grownth was. NO CANCER...NOTHING! She was very thankful that at least she was able to save half of her thyroid. Yes, it is a real shame that the Dr's remove body parts like... well heck...like it isn't THEIR BODY! Another coworker has a goiter. I told him all about iodine and sent hima ton of info on all of it. He went to see his Dr and told him/her about what he had learned from someone. That taking iodine will shrink the goiter and he would like to try it. Guess what that Dr told him? That iodine is only used to PREVENT goitors. Iodine will do nothing to get rid of one, once you have it. Sadly, he chooses to believe the Dr. How can there be this many iodine ignorant Dr's???? Something has to change! Janie > > Hello from a Lurker, > > >Posted by: " ladybugsandbees " > >ladybugsandbees@... stephanie_a_buist > >Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:38 am (PDT) > >There is no other treatment for goiter / nodules - it's iodine, iodine, > >iodine. > > Where were you when I needed to hear this? <g> Hindsight is great but > gosh I wish our doctors were not so knife-happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 That is sad and frustrating. I deal with that on a regular basis. What scares me is how many of us just turn over our entire well being to someone who does not have to live with the consequences. We rarely question why there are discrepancies. It is maddening. Like the history has nothing to say about healing. We are not getting better as a nation so why do we think the latest and greatest are the best methods? Re: Thyroid Growth >A coworker of mine was just going to have her intire thyroid removed > because of a growth. They did a biopsy and came back with just the > answer I told her they would (because of all I have heard from all of > you), that it is inconclusive so we HAVE to remove it. I begged her not > to let them remove it and to begin taking iodine. She is a nurse so, > was very hard to talk her out of it. She ended up letting them remove > the half where the tumor/grownth was. NO CANCER...NOTHING! She was very > thankful that at least she was able to save half of her thyroid. > Yes, it is a real shame that the Dr's remove body parts like... well > heck...like it isn't THEIR BODY! > Another coworker has a goiter. I told him all about iodine and sent > hima ton of info on all of it. He went to see his Dr and told him/her > about what he had learned from someone. That taking iodine will shrink > the goiter and he would like to try it. Guess what that Dr told him? > That iodine is only used to PREVENT goitors. Iodine will do nothing to > get rid of one, once you have it. Sadly, he chooses to believe the Dr. > How can there be this many iodine ignorant Dr's???? Something has to > change! > > Janie > > >> >> Hello from a Lurker, >> >> >Posted by: " ladybugsandbees " >> >ladybugsandbees@... stephanie_a_buist >> >Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:38 am (PDT) >> >There is no other treatment for goiter / nodules - it's iodine, > iodine, >> >iodine. >> >> Where were you when I needed to hear this? <g> Hindsight is great but >> gosh I wish our doctors were not so knife-happy. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I get my lugols iodine here. www.jcrows.com Its dirt cheap. You can buy a 500 ml bottle which lasts years. B > > > > Hi G, > > > > The herbs and supplements that I mentioned to Fred may be very > > helpful. The reason for kelp is mostly the iodine content but this is > > because goiter (enlargement of the thyroid) was darn near pandemic > > years ago and often it stems from iodine deficiency. This is very > > uncommon now in our culture with the iodinizing of salt and the like. > > They are imaging a lump not " thyroid enlargement " . Curious as to why > > it took 2 months from the point that the doctor noticed it to the time > > that you get the results back from the ultrasound (ultrasound is > > available immediately on imaging). even a town of 8 thousand would > > probably have ultrasound equipment. noticed that you are talking in km > > not miles though... are you down under? the surgeon is going to want > > to do one of 2 things; Biopsy or remove the lump. My recommendation is > > to have the lump removed, they can do all the pathology reports off of > > the whole lump as they would be able to do off of a biopsy. The path > > report is what is going to determine your best course of action. The > > sooner you have it done the better. In the mean time, the support > > already mentioned can only help. All the best, -D > > Thyroid Growth > > > > Hi all, > > > > I just received my ultrasound results today from my thyroid. I have a > > lump which the doctor found 2 months ago during a routine physical. I > > never noticed it before that. My blood tests came back with all normal > > ranges for the thyroid, but the ultra sound came back with a lump about > > a cm (1/2 inch) diameter. The mass grew quickly as nobody noticed it > > before the day the doctor saw it. It does no feel like a hard mass all > > the time but if I am stressed It does seem more prominent. > > > > All my blood test results are all with-in their normal ranges: > > TSH (CE) 1.910 normal range is 0.35 - 5.0 mIU/L. > > > > She is sending me to 2 different surgeons. One is convenient because he > > comes to my town once per month, and the other is an Endocrine > > Surgeon. Both are 300 km away. She is now going on holidays so > > nothing will be done for several weeks likely. > > > > So I would like to know what if any alternative modes will help support > > the thyroid. I have done a 10 day master cleanse a month ago, which I > > saw no difference in the lump much one way or the other. I am thinking > > of doing some more deep tissue cleanses. Kelp has been suggested, but > > is there any one type better than the other? > > > > G Murray > > > > P.S. I have had my gall bladder removed, a hysterectomy, and they say I > > have an enlarged spleen and fatty liver. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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