Re: Laxatives for GB

May 23, 2008

Epsom Salt is a good laxative for stimulating the GB and moving stones.

Better than anything else for the GB cleanses. I like to add the juice

of a lemon to buffer the taste and the lemon is also good for the stones

removal too.

>

> Recently I had tried Cascara sagrada bark to move bile to colon. This

> herb as well as Senna, Psyllicum and other bulk laxatives can cause

> obstruction of esophagus, intestines and colon.I got Haital hernia and

> GERD after taking Psyllicum. This time it wasn`t so bad but I had

> heaviness in chest. Do you know any laxative that can help with bile

> or other supplements other than Milk Thristle? As far as I know oats

> and other fibers can help but I can`t digest it well too.I can`t take

> citrus jiuces and much oilive oil too.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Liz

>

May 23, 2008

None of the herbs mentioned create obstructions of esophagus, intestines and

colon. Nor does psyllium cause haital hernias anymore than eating dinner would

" cause " gerd. One might experience acid reflux after eating psyllium but it

would be because of a pre existing digestive problem. Senna and cascara are not

bulking fibers but contain anthraquinones which stimulate peristaltic action of

the intestinal muscles and the production and flow of bile. Anyone experiencing

an intestinal blockage after taking either of them would have again a pre

existing severe " constipational " problem. Psyllium and other bulk fibers do not

cause blockages either, anyone experiencing a blockage after eating them is

again already in severely bad intestinal health and while the fiber may provide

a large amount of bulk which gets stuck it is only from the pre existing

dis-ease. All bitter, cold, liver herbs both stimulate the production and flow

of bile and are laxative to varying degrees because of such. Other excellent

ones to try would be rhubarb root (a classic) and gentian. If you need more let

me know, I could list 20. The magnesium that has been discussed lately may work

really well but in a different way. It sounds like you have trouble with most

fibers, taking a digestive enzyme with amylases present when you eat may help a

lot. The problem with citrus and olive oil as well really points to major

digestive issues. I would expect your digestion to be slow and cold. Warming

with things like ginger, cardamon, an ayurvedic formula called trikatu might

give you not only a lot of relief but enhance the digestive process. There are

a couple of chinese herbs that are quite specific for this; atractylodes and

sassaurea. they are what is known as " spleen chi tonics " . In the Chinese model

" spleen " (which is different from just the organ) is the " governor of all

digestion " . Suffice to say that you may be able to pick up a Chinese formula

based on one of the two that might change your life. Literally. All the best,

-Dave

gallstones@...: imsinfo@...: Thu, 22 May 2008

20:16:57 +0000Subject: Laxatives for GB

Recently I had tried Cascara sagrada bark to move bile to colon. This herb as

well as Senna, Psyllicum and other bulk laxatives can cause obstruction of

esophagus, intestines and colon.I got Haital hernia and GERD after taking

Psyllicum. This time it wasn`t so bad but I had heaviness in chest. Do you know

any laxative that can help with bile or other supplements other than Milk

Thristle? As far as I know oats and other fibers can help but I can`t digest it

well too.I can`t take citrus jiuces and much oilive oil too.Thanks,Liz

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Dave, thank you so much for you time and advices. I will try gentian

and rhubarb. I have red that gentian is toxic for some reason but

probably in big quatities. But I already ordered it and I am going

to try.

I have already tried Barberry for 10 days bc I have red it helps for

GB too as well for Candida and H Pylori. I also have Yellow Dock but

the problem that I can¡¯t tolerate bitter herbs for a long time. I

can take them occasionally only. You are right I tend to be cold

very fast. But my body type is mixed according to Ayurveda and I

can¡¯t tolerate hot herbs too. All stimulants and tonics make me sick

more that ever before.No spices I can take even mild.

I know I have slow motility but nobody said I have any structures

in esophagus and intestines. Even Haital hernia is so small now that

nobody take it to account.

I wasn¡¯t constipated when I was taking laxatives too but I wanted to

move bile according my book on Ayurveda. When i take herbes that

moving bile it goes to stomach and cause reflux to me. So I tried

laxative as option to GB stimulants.Magnesium caused spasm in my leg

and esophagus too though it is recommended for GERD.

It would be really great if you post whole list that we can try one

by one. I think many people here will benefit from it. If you sell

herbs I can buy from you. I can¡¯t tolerate Ayurveda herbs and mixes

usually but I can try Chinese.

Liz

>

> None of the herbs mentioned create obstructions of esophagus,

intestines and colon. Nor does psyllium cause haital hernias

anymore than eating dinner would " cause " gerd. One might experience

acid reflux after eating psyllium but it would be because of a pre

existing digestive problem. Senna and cascara are not bulking

fibers but contain anthraquinones which stimulate peristaltic action

of the intestinal muscles and the production and flow of bile.

Anyone experiencing an intestinal blockage after taking either of

them would have again a pre existing severe " constipational "

problem. Psyllium and other bulk fibers do not cause blockages

either, anyone experiencing a blockage after eating them is again

already in severely bad intestinal health and while the fiber may

provide a large amount of bulk which gets stuck it is only from the

pre existing dis-ease. All bitter, cold, liver herbs both stimulate

the production and flow of bile and are laxative to varying degrees

because of such. Other excellent ones to try would be rhubarb root

(a classic) and gentian. If you need more let me know, I could list

20. The magnesium that has been discussed lately may work really

well but in a different way. It sounds like you have trouble with

most fibers, taking a digestive enzyme with amylases present when

you eat may help a lot. The problem with citrus and olive oil as

well really points to major digestive issues. I would expect your

digestion to be slow and cold. Warming with things like ginger,

cardamon, an ayurvedic formula called trikatu might give you not

only a lot of relief but enhance the digestive process. There are a

couple of chinese herbs that are quite specific for this;

atractylodes and sassaurea. they are what is known as " spleen chi

tonics " . In the Chinese model " spleen " (which is different from

just the organ) is the " governor of all digestion " . Suffice to say

that you may be able to pick up a Chinese formula based on one of

the two that might change your life. Literally. All the best, -

Dave

>

> gallstones@...: imsinfo@...: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:16:57

+0000Subject: Laxatives for GB

>

> Recently I had tried Cascara sagrada bark to move bile to colon.

This herb as well as Senna, Psyllicum and other bulk laxatives can

cause obstruction of esophagus, intestines and colon.I got Haital

hernia and GERD after taking Psyllicum. This time it wasn`t so bad

but I had heaviness in chest. Do you know any laxative that can help

with bile or other supplements other than Milk Thristle? As far as I

know oats and other fibers can help but I can`t digest it well too.I

can`t take citrus jiuces and much oilive oil too.Thanks,Liz

>

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May 24, 2008

Hi Liz,

I now know who you are. Email me off list and I may be able to help you

through this. Your constitution is a blessing as well as a burden. Hear that

deep. Chinese herbs will whack you out too until the constitution is under

control. The atractylodes or sausarea that I mentioned may be the ticket in the

right formula for the digestive issues. Your vata aspects will not tolerate

extremes whether hot or cold. Whenever you use an herb that is known for this

or that, it will need to be companioned with a balancing energetic to be

tolerable. Not easy but possible.

Always, in all ways,

Dave

gallstones@...: imsinfo@...: Fri, 23 May 2008

21:05:07 +0000Subject: Re: Laxatives for GB

Dave, thank you so much for you time and advices. I will try gentian and

rhubarb. I have red that gentian is toxic for some reason but probably in big

quatities. But I already ordered it and I am going to try. I have already tried

Barberry for 10 days bc I have red it helps for GB too as well for Candida and H

Pylori. I also have Yellow Dock but the problem that I can¡¯t tolerate bitter

herbs for a long time. I can take them occasionally only. You are right I tend

to be cold very fast. But my body type is mixed according to Ayurveda and I

can¡¯t tolerate hot herbs too. All stimulants and tonics make me sick more that

ever before.No spices I can take even mild.I know I have slow motility but

nobody said I have any structures in esophagus and intestines. Even Haital

hernia is so small now that nobody take it to account.I wasn¡¯t constipated when

I was taking laxatives too but I wanted to move bile according my book on

Ayurveda. When i take herbes that moving bile it goes to stomach and cause

reflux to me. So I tried laxative as option to GB stimulants.Magnesium caused

spasm in my leg and esophagus too though it is recommended for GERD.It would be

really great if you post whole list that we can try one by one. I think many

people here will benefit from it. If you sell herbs I can buy from you. I can¡¯t

tolerate Ayurveda herbs and mixes usually but I can try Chinese.Liz>>