Re: Just been diagnosed with Gallstones

[Guest guest]

> Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support >

> What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do it

> and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

>

> Any help would be gratefully recieved

>

> Thanks

>

> Anne

I don't have time today to personally answer, so I'm going to post something

I wrote here a long time ago. I hope you can get some help from it.

Amber

Ok, typical CYA statement: This is what I did. Not saying anyone

else should. Each person needs to do what they feel best for

themselves. Some people think doctors are God; others are more

independent thinkers and try to decide what's best for themselves.

>

> The gallbladder (GB) serves a purpose in the body and should be

retained if at all possible. Most people have stones and never have

a problem because of them. Some are actually discovered during

medical tests for other issues. Even if a person has what is

considered a GB attack, it may not actually be the GB causing the

problem. Most doctors will automatically say that the person should

just have their GB removed. I had a GB attack March 12, 2006, and

was in ER. Tests should that I had " innumerable stones. " My Dr.

wanted me to have surgery and I said, " Wait a minute; I'm going home

and doing some studying first. " I have now done 3 GB purges and

started passing stones. To this day, I am still passing stones! I

started saving them in the freezer after the first month and ended up

with three 2 oz. containers in the freezer. That's larger than my

GB. Therefore, I'm passing old stones and now newly formed stones.

People make stones all the time. My ducts are now open from the

purges I did and the herbs I'm taking, so the new stones can pass

out. I have had no pain since the initial attack. Many people who

have an attack will never have another one. The GB serves a major

purpose in the body. It helps to emulsify fats. When the GB is

removed, bile constantly drips, thereby increasing a person's risk of

cancer.

>

> I did 3 GB purges, have been taking A-F Beta Food by Standard

Process, milk thistle (for the liver), OregaMax (an antifungal),

changed my diet. After a GB attack, people should limit meat and

eggs. Beets are very helpful. I also take Probiotics (from the

refrigerator section of a health food store). I took a lot of

different herbs and supplements as recommended by my N.D. but can't

remember them all now. If your relatives wish to consult with her,

let me know and I'll see if she will provide info via email.

>

> Dr. Mercola's Comment:

>

> First of all, I believe it is nearly criminal what traditional

medicine is doing to our public when it comes to managing this

problem. It is RARELY ever indicated to remove someone's gallbladder.

If one ignores warning symptoms and does not address the reasons why

their gallbladder is not functioning properly, than the disease can

progress to the point where the pancreas is inflamed or the

gallbladder is seriously infected and may have to be removed to save

a person's life. However, it is important to have a proper

perspective here. Nearly ONE MILLION gallbladders are removed every

year in this country and it is my estimate that only several thousand

need to come out.

>

> So, not only are surgeons removing these organs unnecessarily, but

in their nutritional ignorance they are telling patients that their

gallbladders do not serve any purpose and they can live perfectly

well without them. This is a lie. The gallbladder serves an important

digestive function. It is required to emulsify fats. What is

emulsification? One can easily understand this concept when washing

greasy dishes. It is nearly impossible to properly clean greasy

dishes without soap as the soap emulsifies the fat so it can be

removed. Similarly, the gallbladder stores bile and bile acids, which

emulsify the fat one eats so it can be properly transported through

the intestine into the blood stream. Anyone who has had their

gallbladder removed will need to take some form of bile salts with

every meal for the rest of their life (I use and recommend Beta Plus

from Biotics Research), if they wish to prevent a good percentage of

the good fats they eat from being flushed down the toilet. If one

does not have enough fats in the diet, their entire physiology will

be disrupted, especially the ability to make hormones and

prostaglandins.

>

> So, let's get back to the original question. If one has gallbladder

disease it can be evidenced by:

>

> 1) Pain when pressing on the gallbladder, which is directly under

the last rib on the right on the same plane as one's nipple. This is

usually due to gallbladder " sludge " (thick bile).

>

> 2) Stone on a gallbladder ultrasound.

>

> 3) Greasy stools that are loose and tend to float to the top of

the toilet bowl. This indicates improper fat absorption.

>

> Then what is the proper course of action?

>

> Long time readers of this newsletter will be very familiar with the

essential first step. It is imperative to clean up the diet.

>

> One has to stop the sugars, and reduce the grains and eliminate all

fluids but water. The gallbladder is frequently infected when it is

diseased so large amounts of good bacteria will also be helpful in

correcting the problem. (end Dr. Mercola)

>

>

> The first purge I did was quite involved but it really started the

process of my passing stones:

>

>

> Take 3 Lecithin, 3 B-Complex, 3 Hydrangea and 3 BLG-X with each

meal. Available at health food stores.

>

>

> Take 2-4 Cascara Sagrada at night to keep bowels clean.

>

>

> Every A.M. and every P.M. take 2 T olive oil mixed with 2 T fresh

squeezed lemon juice.

>

>

> 1 tsp. apple cider vinegar in a glass of water or V-8 juice helps

to soften stones.

>

>

> Start: Every A.M., noon and P.M. take the above recipe (olive

oil/lemon) for 1 week. Plan the next 2 days to be home. Day 7 start

eating light foods only. e.g. applesauce, figs, pears, drinking apple

and other juices, V-8 (in glass bottles not cans). Keep up the olive

oil and lemon juice. Days 8 and 9 NO FOOD. Juices only. Apple, V-

8, olive and lemon. Drink up to 1 gallon of juices a day.

>

>

> End of the 9th day about 5:00 p.m. drink 1 cup olive oil mixed with

1 cup fresh lemon juice. Immediately go to bed and lay still, on

your right side and WAIT. Before too many hours, the stones will

start to come out. If you wish to save them, use rubber gloves and

place stones in a strainer, rinse and put in a container and freeze

them. (I did not start passing stones until the following morning.)

>

>

> This first purge is the most difficult. I did it and it started

the process of my stones coming out and they are still coming out.

They come out in normal bowel movements and there is no pain

involved. After about a month, I did the 3 day purge shown below. I

have done a total of 3 purges and don't feel I need to do any more.

>

>

> The Three Day Liver, Gallstone Flush Program

> In my humble 20 years of looking at healing methods for the human

body, the liver flush is probably one of the most dramatic and

successful. Many people have avoided gall bladder operations using

this simple and effective technique. The tools you will need for this

program are:

>

>

> 1 gallon of organic apple juice.

> 1 bottle of Phos Food Liquid by Standard Process.

> 1 eight ounce bottle of cold pressed virgin olive oil.

> 2 whole organic lemons.

> herbal laxative.

>

>

> I usually start by drinking one quart or more of apple juice per

day adding 45 drops of Phos Food Liquid twice to the apple juice per

day (that's 90 drops total of Phos Food Liquid per day). On the

evening of the third day, after the last meal, I will mix the eight

ounces of olive oil with the juice from the two lemons and drink this

completely. Then I immediately go to bed and lay on my right side

with my knees up to my chest for one half hour.

>

> The oil travels to the liver and gall bladder, they will spasm and

throw off the oil and any gall stones that are present. The next

morning I swallow my herbal laxatives to facilitate the exit of the

stones, which come out completely soft. (I took mine at night.)

>

>

> Now, a person who is diabetic and cannot use apple juice, may

substitute distilled water and take Phos Food Liquid 45 drops in the

water three times a day for a total of 135 drops in one day, for

three days. Then take olive oil mixed with lemon juice on the evening

of the third day. But, most important, you must use the Phos Food

Liquid in this program. If for some reason you cannot either find or

use the Phos Food Liquid, do not attempt the program. Also it is

important to use lemon juice from fresh lemons, and not frozen or

concentrate. Within a few hours of the liver flush you will feel like

a new person, reborn. (Phos Food is sold at some health food

stores. If not available, call the company direct at: 1-800-231-

8063.)

>

> Some people may be concerned that stones could be too big, they may

not easily come out or may even get stuck on the way out. These

purges soften the stones so that they can slip through. In the

beginning, the stones I passed were the size of hominy and later on,

the size of corn kernels. However, I passed several that were half

inch long and some that were 3/4 inch long.

>

> Doctors don't know everything. I would not submit myself to

surgery without investigating other options.

>

[Guest guest]

I have been through the Dr. Santra's liver cleansing diet for 2 years before. It

is a great thing to do. You will not be hungry instead, you are going to loose

weight. I have introduced this pill to my friends who are using it as a great

product that they never have been in.

Now, after 2 years, I do not follow up and end up along with the symptom come

back just because I eat as used be. Partial of them is not my fault just because

I have been travel too much and  eat the food that I hardly to choose on the

road. I let you know that I will go back to liver cleansing again after getting

into USA a few months later.

From: feb4512 <joanlee0107@...>

Subject: Just been diagnosed with Gallstones

gallstones

Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 3:27 PM

Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support as I

have just been diagnosed with gallstones after months/years of suffering

with what I thought was acid I have had a few really bad attacks and

then on monday an unbearable 4 hours of pain fever and vomitting for 2

hours.

I am due to go back for an endoscopy in two days and am sure they will

put me on the waiting list for keyhole surgery to remove the stones.

Now I have started to look at my diet and remove all fat, white bread

cheese and alcohol because I couldnt bear the thought of another attack

like i had on monday.

I do have a reasonably healthy diet but have found out i shouldnt eat

things like nuts,sweeteners, fruit juice and beans etc'

What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do it

and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

Any help would be gratefully recieved

Thanks

Anne

[Guest guest]

Hello,

DId the doctor say remove the stones or remove your gallbladder?

" feb4512 "

<joanlee0107aol (DOT)

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07/03/2008 04:31 with Gallstones

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Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support as I

have just been diagnosed with gallstones after months/years of suffering

with what I thought was acid I have had a few really bad attacks and

then on monday an unbearable 4 hours of pain fever and vomitting for 2

hours.

I am due to go back for an endoscopy in two days and am sure they will

put me on the waiting list for keyhole surgery to remove the stones.

Now I have started to look at my diet and remove all fat, white bread

cheese and alcohol because I couldnt bear the thought of another attack

like i had on monday.

I do have a reasonably healthy diet but have found out i shouldnt eat

things like nuts,sweeteners,fruit juice and beans etc'

What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do it

and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

Any help would be gratefully recieved

Thanks

Anne

[Guest guest]

Hi no he didnt say he was going to remove anything yet I am have a

laproscopy today so maybe I will get some more infomation.

I have been in a lot of pain last night for about three hours i couldnt

sit down lie down anything so i just pace the floor and took three

painkillers paracetomol and codeine and in the end it eased and i went

to sleep.I have to lie on my back as it hurts to much if i turn over to

either side .

Is this normal for gallbladder /gallstones pain?

>

>

> Hello,

>

> DId the doctor say remove the stones or remove your gallbladder?

>

>

>

>

>

> " feb4512 "

> joanlee0107aol (DOT)

> com> To

> Sent by: gallstones

> gallstones@g cc

> roups.com

> Subject

> Just been diagnosed

> 07/03/2008 04:31 with Gallstones

> AM

>

>

> Please respond to

> gallstones@g

> roups.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support as I

> have just been diagnosed with gallstones after months/years of

suffering

> with what I thought was acid I have had a few really bad attacks and

> then on monday an unbearable 4 hours of pain fever and vomitting for 2

> hours.

>

> I am due to go back for an endoscopy in two days and am sure they will

> put me on the waiting list for keyhole surgery to remove the stones.

>

> Now I have started to look at my diet and remove all fat, white bread

> cheese and alcohol because I couldnt bear the thought of another

attack

> like i had on monday.

>

> I do have a reasonably healthy diet but have found out i shouldnt eat

> things like nuts,sweeteners,fruit juice and beans etc'

>

> What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do it

> and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

>

> Any help would be gratefully recieved

>

> Thanks

>

> Anne

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Betty for your reply and advice I hope you get back on track soon

and feel better.

> From: feb4512 joanlee0107@...

> Subject: Just been diagnosed with Gallstones

> gallstones

> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 3:27 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support as I

>

> have just been diagnosed with gallstones after months/years of

suffering

>

> with what I thought was acid I have had a few really bad attacks and

>

> then on monday an unbearable 4 hours of pain fever and vomitting for 2

>

> hours.

>

>

>

> I am due to go back for an endoscopy in two days and am sure they will

>

> put me on the waiting list for keyhole surgery to remove the stones.

>

>

>

> Now I have started to look at my diet and remove all fat, white bread

>

> cheese and alcohol because I couldnt bear the thought of another

attack

>

> like i had on monday.

>

>

>

> I do have a reasonably healthy diet but have found out i shouldnt eat

>

> things like nuts,sweeteners, fruit juice and beans etc'

>

>

>

> What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do it

>

> and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

>

>

>

> Any help would be gratefully recieved

>

>

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> Anne

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Amber that was a great help for me I look forward to taking on

board some of your advice and seing how i go on thanks for taking the

time to reply.

>

>

> > Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support >

> > What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do

it

> > and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

> >

> > Any help would be gratefully recieved

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Anne

>

> I don't have time today to personally answer, so I'm going to post

something

> I wrote here a long time ago. I hope you can get some help from it.

>

> Amber

>

> Ok, typical CYA statement: This is what I did. Not saying anyone

> else should. Each person needs to do what they feel best for

> themselves. Some people think doctors are God; others are more

> independent thinkers and try to decide what's best for themselves.

> >

> > The gallbladder (GB) serves a purpose in the body and should be

> retained if at all possible. Most people have stones and never have

> a problem because of them. Some are actually discovered during

> medical tests for other issues. Even if a person has what is

> considered a GB attack, it may not actually be the GB causing the

> problem. Most doctors will automatically say that the person should

> just have their GB removed. I had a GB attack March 12, 2006, and

> was in ER. Tests should that I had " innumerable stones. " My Dr.

> wanted me to have surgery and I said, " Wait a minute; I'm going home

> and doing some studying first. " I have now done 3 GB purges and

> started passing stones. To this day, I am still passing stones! I

> started saving them in the freezer after the first month and ended up

> with three 2 oz. containers in the freezer. That's larger than my

> GB. Therefore, I'm passing old stones and now newly formed stones.

> People make stones all the time. My ducts are now open from the

> purges I did and the herbs I'm taking, so the new stones can pass

> out. I have had no pain since the initial attack. Many people who

> have an attack will never have another one. The GB serves a major

> purpose in the body. It helps to emulsify fats. When the GB is

> removed, bile constantly drips, thereby increasing a person's risk of

> cancer.

> >

> > I did 3 GB purges, have been taking A-F Beta Food by Standard

> Process, milk thistle (for the liver), OregaMax (an antifungal),

> changed my diet. After a GB attack, people should limit meat and

> eggs. Beets are very helpful. I also take Probiotics (from the

> refrigerator section of a health food store). I took a lot of

> different herbs and supplements as recommended by my N.D. but can't

> remember them all now. If your relatives wish to consult with her,

> let me know and I'll see if she will provide info via email.

> >

> > Dr. Mercola's Comment:

> >

> > First of all, I believe it is nearly criminal what traditional

> medicine is doing to our public when it comes to managing this

> problem. It is RARELY ever indicated to remove someone's gallbladder.

> If one ignores warning symptoms and does not address the reasons why

> their gallbladder is not functioning properly, than the disease can

> progress to the point where the pancreas is inflamed or the

> gallbladder is seriously infected and may have to be removed to save

> a person's life. However, it is important to have a proper

> perspective here. Nearly ONE MILLION gallbladders are removed every

> year in this country and it is my estimate that only several thousand

> need to come out.

> >

> > So, not only are surgeons removing these organs unnecessarily, but

> in their nutritional ignorance they are telling patients that their

> gallbladders do not serve any purpose and they can live perfectly

> well without them. This is a lie. The gallbladder serves an important

> digestive function. It is required to emulsify fats. What is

> emulsification? One can easily understand this concept when washing

> greasy dishes. It is nearly impossible to properly clean greasy

> dishes without soap as the soap emulsifies the fat so it can be

> removed. Similarly, the gallbladder stores bile and bile acids, which

> emulsify the fat one eats so it can be properly transported through

> the intestine into the blood stream. Anyone who has had their

> gallbladder removed will need to take some form of bile salts with

> every meal for the rest of their life (I use and recommend Beta Plus

> from Biotics Research), if they wish to prevent a good percentage of

> the good fats they eat from being flushed down the toilet. If one

> does not have enough fats in the diet, their entire physiology will

> be disrupted, especially the ability to make hormones and

> prostaglandins.

> >

> > So, let's get back to the original question. If one has gallbladder

> disease it can be evidenced by:

> >

> > 1) Pain when pressing on the gallbladder, which is directly under

> the last rib on the right on the same plane as one's nipple. This is

> usually due to gallbladder " sludge " (thick bile).

> >

> > 2) Stone on a gallbladder ultrasound.

> >

> > 3) Greasy stools that are loose and tend to float to the top of

> the toilet bowl. This indicates improper fat absorption.

> >

> > Then what is the proper course of action?

> >

> > Long time readers of this newsletter will be very familiar with the

> essential first step. It is imperative to clean up the diet.

> >

> > One has to stop the sugars, and reduce the grains and eliminate all

> fluids but water. The gallbladder is frequently infected when it is

> diseased so large amounts of good bacteria will also be helpful in

> correcting the problem. (end Dr. Mercola)

> >

> >

> > The first purge I did was quite involved but it really started the

> process of my passing stones:

> >

> >

> > Take 3 Lecithin, 3 B-Complex, 3 Hydrangea and 3 BLG-X with each

> meal. Available at health food stores.

> >

> >

> > Take 2-4 Cascara Sagrada at night to keep bowels clean.

> >

> >

> > Every A.M. and every P.M. take 2 T olive oil mixed with 2 T fresh

> squeezed lemon juice.

> >

> >

> > 1 tsp. apple cider vinegar in a glass of water or V-8 juice helps

> to soften stones.

> >

> >

> > Start: Every A.M., noon and P.M. take the above recipe (olive

> oil/lemon) for 1 week. Plan the next 2 days to be home. Day 7 start

> eating light foods only. e.g. applesauce, figs, pears, drinking apple

> and other juices, V-8 (in glass bottles not cans). Keep up the olive

> oil and lemon juice. Days 8 and 9 NO FOOD. Juices only. Apple, V-

> 8, olive and lemon. Drink up to 1 gallon of juices a day.

> >

> >

> > End of the 9th day about 5:00 p.m. drink 1 cup olive oil mixed with

> 1 cup fresh lemon juice. Immediately go to bed and lay still, on

> your right side and WAIT. Before too many hours, the stones will

> start to come out. If you wish to save them, use rubber gloves and

> place stones in a strainer, rinse and put in a container and freeze

> them. (I did not start passing stones until the following morning.)

> >

> >

> > This first purge is the most difficult. I did it and it started

> the process of my stones coming out and they are still coming out.

> They come out in normal bowel movements and there is no pain

> involved. After about a month, I did the 3 day purge shown below. I

> have done a total of 3 purges and don't feel I need to do any more.

> >

> >

> > The Three Day Liver, Gallstone Flush Program

> > In my humble 20 years of looking at healing methods for the human

> body, the liver flush is probably one of the most dramatic and

> successful. Many people have avoided gall bladder operations using

> this simple and effective technique. The tools you will need for this

> program are:

> >

> >

> > 1 gallon of organic apple juice.

> > 1 bottle of Phos Food Liquid by Standard Process.

> > 1 eight ounce bottle of cold pressed virgin olive oil.

> > 2 whole organic lemons.

> > herbal laxative.

> >

> >

> > I usually start by drinking one quart or more of apple juice per

> day adding 45 drops of Phos Food Liquid twice to the apple juice per

> day (that's 90 drops total of Phos Food Liquid per day). On the

> evening of the third day, after the last meal, I will mix the eight

> ounces of olive oil with the juice from the two lemons and drink this

> completely. Then I immediately go to bed and lay on my right side

> with my knees up to my chest for one half hour.

> >

> > The oil travels to the liver and gall bladder, they will spasm and

> throw off the oil and any gall stones that are present. The next

> morning I swallow my herbal laxatives to facilitate the exit of the

> stones, which come out completely soft. (I took mine at night.)

> >

> >

> > Now, a person who is diabetic and cannot use apple juice, may

> substitute distilled water and take Phos Food Liquid 45 drops in the

> water three times a day for a total of 135 drops in one day, for

> three days. Then take olive oil mixed with lemon juice on the evening

> of the third day. But, most important, you must use the Phos Food

> Liquid in this program. If for some reason you cannot either find or

> use the Phos Food Liquid, do not attempt the program. Also it is

> important to use lemon juice from fresh lemons, and not frozen or

> concentrate. Within a few hours of the liver flush you will feel like

> a new person, reborn. (Phos Food is sold at some health food

> stores. If not available, call the company direct at: 1-800-231-

> 8063.)

> >

> > Some people may be concerned that stones could be too big, they may

> not easily come out or may even get stuck on the way out. These

> purges soften the stones so that they can slip through. In the

> beginning, the stones I passed were the size of hominy and later on,

> the size of corn kernels. However, I passed several that were half

> inch long and some that were 3/4 inch long.

> >

> > Doctors don't know everything. I would not submit myself to

> surgery without investigating other options.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> I have been in a lot of pain last night for about three hours i couldnt

> sit down lie down anything so i just pace the floor and took three

> painkillers paracetomol and codeine and in the end it eased and i went

> to sleep.I have to lie on my back as it hurts to much if i turn over to

> either side .

>

> Is this normal for gallbladder /gallstones pain?

With me (and many people) it was one attack only, lots of pain, in ER, lots

of tests. Threw up the junk I had to drink, so I got to do that all over

again. Once that attack was over, I've been fine ever since. Many people

have stones and never know it. Do the flushes, change your diet and you'll

probably be fine.

Amber

[Guest guest]

> Thanks Amber that was a great help for me I look forward to taking on

> board some of your advice and seing how i go on thanks for taking the

> time to reply.

You are welcome. I'm glad I finally saved all that because I had to

recreate the wheel once before.

Amber

[Guest guest]

laproscopy is surgery - surprise...!!!!

Re: Just been diagnosed with Gallstones

Hi no he didnt say he was going to remove anything yet I am have a

laproscopy today so maybe I will get some more infomation.

I have been in a lot of pain last night for about three hours i couldnt

sit down lie down anything so i just pace the floor and took three

painkillers paracetomol and codeine and in the end it eased and i went

to sleep.I have to lie on my back as it hurts to much if i turn over to

either side .

Is this normal for gallbladder /gallstones pain?

>

>

> Hello,

>

> DId the doctor say remove the stones or remove your gallbladder?

>

>

>

>

>

> " feb4512 "

> joanlee0107@ aol.

> com> To

> Sent by: gallstones@gro ups.com

> gallstones@g cc

> roups.com

> Subject

> Just been diagnosed

> 07/03/2008 04:31 with Gallstones

> AM

>

>

> Please respond to

> gallstones@g

> roups.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support as I

> have just been diagnosed with gallstones after months/years of

suffering

> with what I thought was acid I have had a few really bad attacks and

> then on monday an unbearable 4 hours of pain fever and vomitting for 2

> hours.

>

> I am due to go back for an endoscopy in two days and am sure they will

> put me on the waiting list for keyhole surgery to remove the stones.

>

> Now I have started to look at my diet and remove all fat, white bread

> cheese and alcohol because I couldnt bear the thought of another

attack

> like i had on monday.

>

> I do have a reasonably healthy diet but have found out i shouldnt eat

> things like nuts,sweeteners, fruit juice and beans etc'

>

> What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do it

> and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

>

> Any help would be gratefully recieved

>

> Thanks

>

> Anne

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> laproscopy is surgery - surprise...!!!!

>

> Hi no he didnt say he was going to remove anything yet I am have a

> laproscopy today so maybe I will get some more infomation.

Geez, that's what I thought, too, when I read that. She may have more

information that she wants when she wakes up.

Amber

[Guest guest]

Woops error sorry it was an endoscopy i went for this afternoon not

laproscopy.

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > DId the doctor say remove the stones or remove your gallbladder?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " feb4512 "

> > joanlee0107@ aol.

> > com> To

> > Sent by: gallstones@gro ups.com

> > gallstones@g cc

> > roups.com

> > Subject

> > Just been diagnosed

> > 07/03/2008 04:31 with Gallstones

> > AM

> >

> >

> > Please respond to

> > gallstones@g

> > roups.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support as I

> > have just been diagnosed with gallstones after months/years of

> suffering

> > with what I thought was acid I have had a few really bad attacks and

> > then on monday an unbearable 4 hours of pain fever and vomitting for

2

> > hours.

> >

> > I am due to go back for an endoscopy in two days and am sure they

will

> > put me on the waiting list for keyhole surgery to remove the stones.

> >

> > Now I have started to look at my diet and remove all fat, white

bread

> > cheese and alcohol because I couldnt bear the thought of another

> attack

> > like i had on monday.

> >

> > I do have a reasonably healthy diet but have found out i shouldnt

eat

> > things like nuts,sweeteners, fruit juice and beans etc'

> >

> > What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do

it

> > and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

> >

> > Any help would be gratefully recieved

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Anne

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I was in pain for 12 hours and like you I cannot lie still. I have to rise

from the bed from time to time and during those time the gas in my stomach

doesn't seem to find any way out. Similarly I have to lie on my back but

what I did to ease the pain and get some needed sleep is to rub menthol

liniment on my upper abdomen and cover it with a pillow or blanket. A hot

compress with a hot water bottle would do too.

The other symptoms you should be wary of aside from the obvious upper

abdominal pain is back pain. Another is pain on the right shoulder which I

didn't notice but I had this slightly sore feeling on my right shoulder.

I'd like to try the ACV treatment on my next attack hehehehe

Laparoscopy is like keyhole surgery, they make 4 small incisions to extract

your gallbladder.

Be informed first before doing anything.

" feb4512 "

<joanlee0107aol (DOT)

com> To

Sent by: gallstones

gallstones@g cc

roups.com

Subject

Re: Just been

07/04/2008 11:21 diagnosed with Gallstones

PM

Please respond to

gallstones@g

roups.com

Hi no he didnt say he was going to remove anything yet I am have a

laproscopy today so maybe I will get some more infomation.

I have been in a lot of pain last night for about three hours i couldnt

sit down lie down anything so i just pace the floor and took three

painkillers paracetomol and codeine and in the end it eased and i went

to sleep.I have to lie on my back as it hurts to much if i turn over to

either side .

Is this normal for gallbladder /gallstones pain?

>

>

> Hello,

>

> DId the doctor say remove the stones or remove your gallbladder?

>

>

>

>

>

> " feb4512 "

> joanlee0107aol (DOT)

> com> To

> Sent by: gallstones

> gallstones@g cc

> roups.com

> Subject

> Just been diagnosed

> 07/03/2008 04:31 with Gallstones

> AM

>

>

> Please respond to

> gallstones@g

> roups.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support as I

> have just been diagnosed with gallstones after months/years of

suffering

> with what I thought was acid I have had a few really bad attacks and

> then on monday an unbearable 4 hours of pain fever and vomitting for 2

> hours.

>

> I am due to go back for an endoscopy in two days and am sure they will

> put me on the waiting list for keyhole surgery to remove the stones.

>

> Now I have started to look at my diet and remove all fat, white bread

> cheese and alcohol because I couldnt bear the thought of another

attack

> like i had on monday.

>

> I do have a reasonably healthy diet but have found out i shouldnt eat

> things like nuts,sweeteners,fruit juice and beans etc'

>

> What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do it

> and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

>

> Any help would be gratefully recieved

>

> Thanks

>

> Anne

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

at time of pain - drink a little apple cider vinegar, you will feel better...

Re: Re: Just been diagnosed with Gallstones

I was in pain for 12 hours and like you I cannot lie still. I have to rise

from the bed from time to time and during those time the gas in my stomach

doesn't seem to find any way out. Similarly I have to lie on my back but

what I did to ease the pain and get some needed sleep is to rub menthol

liniment on my upper abdomen and cover it with a pillow or blanket. A hot

compress with a hot water bottle would do too.

The other symptoms you should be wary of aside from the obvious upper

abdominal pain is back pain. Another is pain on the right shoulder which I

didn't notice but I had this slightly sore feeling on my right shoulder.

I'd like to try the ACV treatment on my next attack hehehehe

Laparoscopy is like keyhole surgery, they make 4 small incisions to extract

your gallbladder.

Be informed first before doing anything.

" feb4512 "

<joanlee0107@ aol.

com> To

Sent by: gallstones@gro ups.com

gallstones@g cc

roups.com

Subject

Re: Just been

07/04/2008 11:21 diagnosed with Gallstones

PM

Please respond to

gallstones@g

roups.com

Hi no he didnt say he was going to remove anything yet I am have a

laproscopy today so maybe I will get some more infomation.

I have been in a lot of pain last night for about three hours i couldnt

sit down lie down anything so i just pace the floor and took three

painkillers paracetomol and codeine and in the end it eased and i went

to sleep.I have to lie on my back as it hurts to much if i turn over to

either side .

Is this normal for gallbladder /gallstones pain?

>

>

> Hello,

>

> DId the doctor say remove the stones or remove your gallbladder?

>

>

>

>

>

> " feb4512 "

> joanlee0107@ aol.

> com> To

> Sent by: gallstones@gro ups.com

> gallstones@g cc

> roups.com

> Subject

> Just been diagnosed

> 07/03/2008 04:31 with Gallstones

> AM

>

>

> Please respond to

> gallstones@g

> roups.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support as I

> have just been diagnosed with gallstones after months/years of

suffering

> with what I thought was acid I have had a few really bad attacks and

> then on monday an unbearable 4 hours of pain fever and vomitting for 2

> hours.

>

> I am due to go back for an endoscopy in two days and am sure they will

> put me on the waiting list for keyhole surgery to remove the stones.

>

> Now I have started to look at my diet and remove all fat, white bread

> cheese and alcohol because I couldnt bear the thought of another

attack

> like i had on monday.

>

> I do have a reasonably healthy diet but have found out i shouldnt eat

> things like nuts,sweeteners, fruit juice and beans etc'

>

> What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do it

> and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

>

> Any help would be gratefully recieved

>

> Thanks

>

> Anne

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jay, I bought some and am making a point of drinking it before I

get the pain I heard it is good for you anyway - I mixed it with v8 veg

juice it still burnt my throat going down but maybe cos i just had the

endoscopy the day before.

The endoscopy didnt look at my gall bladder only my stomach and it was

all red due to overuse of Ibuprofen( NSAID )

Scary no more pain killers for me.

I feel so much better for having the information of this group as I have

had 4 gb attacks in 8 months and hopefully now I am a little more

informed I may prevent further attacks.

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > DId the doctor say remove the stones or remove your gallbladder?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " feb4512 "

> > joanlee0107@ aol.

> > com> To

> > Sent by: gallstones@gro ups.com

> > gallstones@g cc

> > roups.com

> > Subject

> > Just been diagnosed

> > 07/03/2008 04:31 with Gallstones

> > AM

> >

> >

> > Please respond to

> > gallstones@g

> > roups.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support as I

> > have just been diagnosed with gallstones after months/years of

> suffering

> > with what I thought was acid I have had a few really bad attacks and

> > then on monday an unbearable 4 hours of pain fever and vomitting for

2

> > hours.

> >

> > I am due to go back for an endoscopy in two days and am sure they

will

> > put me on the waiting list for keyhole surgery to remove the stones.

> >

> > Now I have started to look at my diet and remove all fat, white

bread

> > cheese and alcohol because I couldnt bear the thought of another

> attack

> > like i had on monday.

> >

> > I do have a reasonably healthy diet but have found out i shouldnt

eat

> > things like nuts,sweeteners, fruit juice and beans etc'

> >

> > What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do

it

> > and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

> >

> > Any help would be gratefully recieved

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Anne

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Alot of people, aftger they do a few gal bladder/liver cleanses find their

digestion returns to normal.  I used to be highly lactose intolerant - I've done

about 10 liver cleanses and flushed out thousands of gall stones.  Now I am no

longer lactose intolerant at all.

From: feb4512 <joanlee0107@...>

Subject: Just been diagnosed with Gallstones

gallstones

Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 4:27 PM

Hi I have just joined your group furiously seeking some support as I

have just been diagnosed with gallstones after months/years of suffering

with what I thought was acid I have had a few really bad attacks and

then on monday an unbearable 4 hours of pain fever and vomitting for 2

hours.

I am due to go back for an endoscopy in two days and am sure they will

put me on the waiting list for keyhole surgery to remove the stones.

Now I have started to look at my diet and remove all fat, white bread

cheese and alcohol because I couldnt bear the thought of another attack

like i had on monday.

I do have a reasonably healthy diet but have found out i shouldnt eat

things like nuts,sweeteners, fruit juice and beans etc'

What is the liver cleanse diet I am scared I wouldnt be able to do it

and I would end up hungry and than have a binge!!

Any help would be gratefully recieved

Thanks

Anne