Guest guest Posted November 23, 2000 Report Share Posted November 23, 2000 Wow, Karma, I'm going to have to check into this. It doesn't seem as if I've lost an ounce breathing, even though I do enjoy many of the other benefits. I was starting to gain back some of what I lost and just panicking as to what type of eating program to try next without depriving myself. Just recently I got the book, Picture Perfect Weight Loss, out of the Library. I've been eating lots of food and I've lost 6 pounds so far. Including chocolate! I also got the book Volumentrics out of the library. The books are based on the same principles. I also noticed that when I stopped my 20 minutes of breathing a day, I did start to see the scale slowly move up, even though I was walking either 2 & 1/2 to 5 miles a day. So breathing is working one way or another. Now I want to check out this alkaline thing. This could be the final missing piece to my puzzle. Thanks Karma for your very interesting research!! (I am assuming that I can get these testing strips at the health food store or a drug store.) On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:48:35 -0600 "Karma Tucker" <karma@...> writes: Hi Everybody, For those of you who might have missed my posts because I didn't post it to this list. I have been studying why some people are slow losers and some people aren't. BodyFlex, Oxycise, Life Lift and the other Deep Breathing methods help our body to become Alkaline. I think that is one of the reasons we are able to lose inches and pounds by just breathing in the beginning. The problem is that plateau! Why are some people fast losers and some people slow losers or NON losers? I think Alkalinity might play a pretty important role in that question. I think we discussed the importance of having your essential fats in your diet. It is important to have a small amount of fat in your diet each day. Our bodies need the good stuff, not the bad stuff. I didn't have a problem with this because I basically follow the Zone way of combining food and it very specifically says to add fat to each meal, the good fat like Olive Oil. Or eat Salmon three times a week. I believe that I read in one of the books on Good Fat that Olive Oil actually turns Alkaline in the body. Yet another reason to use it. I believe it was the Extra Virgin Olive Oil that is Alkaline. Even though I am vegetarian, I was having problems getting alkaline. I think it is because I tend to like the sugars and breads which are really acid forming not to mention mucous forming causing a lot of problems in the colon. In my studying of Alkalinity, I actually went around and asked some of my "skinny" friends to do the tongue test with my pH papers. I found that they were alkaline! I WASN'T So, how do I get alkaline? I have really squewed up my body on this one because of all the dieting that I had done in the past. AND my tendency to prefer sweets over fresh foods. I do eat raw foods, and drink live juice yet couldn't seem to get my body to stay Alkaline! I started carrying some new products and have been using them. They are the Body Rescue Products. They are Alkalizing Products and do seem to be helping. I am becoming Alkaline! Yes!!! I can put the paper on my tongue and it turns green! Before it would stay yellow. (Acid) I am drinking the tea and I am taking the Alkalizing Drink as a couple of the snacks during the day. I used to grab a handful of something, now I am drinking an Alkalizing Drink instead and it is really helping me to get past my plateau. I have put together a web page that tells about it. http://www.loaves-n-fishes.com/bodyrescuebyraenamorgan.htm Hope Everyone Has a wonderful Thanksgiving. Just wanted to share. ~Karmahttp://loaves-n-fishes.com Vitamins, Herbs, etc. at discount prices.View my current auctions at: http://showcase.auctiva.com/Karma"Spread love everywhere you go: first of all in your own house. Give love to your children, to your wife or husband, to the next door neighbor... Let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living expression of God's kindness; kindness in your face, kindness in your eyes, kindness in your smile, kindness in your warm greeting."~Mother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2000 Report Share Posted November 24, 2000 I think that you can get the pH Hydrion papers from most local health food stores. If you can't, I do sell them on my site. They are on the Alkalizing Body Rescue page. http://loaves-n-fishes.com/bodyrescuebyraenamorgan.htm They are called BODY RESCUE BY RAENA MORGAN-PH TESTING TAPE W/ COLOR CARD BOX and cost $10.00 per roll on my site. They retail for $12.50 a box, but I sell things from 10 - 30% discount off retail from my site. This has been an amazing discovery for me. I had heard of the alkaline vs. acid thing for quite some time. I had just never investigated it myself. It is amazing to see the paper change depending on what you eat. I though that an orange which is acid would make the paper stay yellow (acid), but NO it turned green as in alkaline. Some very interesting experimenting on this subject when you have the paper to test yourself with. I test first thing in the morning. I have also tested after eating to see how that works too. The bodies true pH is supposed to be measured in the morning as I understand it though. ~Karmahttp://loaves-n-fishes.com Vitamins, Herbs, etc. at discount prices.View my current auctions at: http://showcase.auctiva.com/Karma"Spread love everywhere you go: first of all in your own house. Give love to your children, to your wife or husband, to the next door neighbor... Let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living expression of God's kindness; kindness in your face, kindness in your eyes, kindness in your smile, kindness in your warm greeting."~Mother Re: Alkalizing Wow, Karma, I'm going to have to check into this. It doesn't seem as if I've lost an ounce breathing, even though I do enjoy many of the other benefits. I was starting to gain back some of what I lost and just panicking as to what type of eating program to try next without depriving myself. Just recently I got the book, Picture Perfect Weight Loss, out of the Library. I've been eating lots of food and I've lost 6 pounds so far. Including chocolate! I also got the book Volumentrics out of the library. The books are based on the same principles. I also noticed that when I stopped my 20 minutes of breathing a day, I did start to see the scale slowly move up, even though I was walking either 2 & 1/2 to 5 miles a day. So breathing is working one way or another. Now I want to check out this alkaline thing. This could be the final missing piece to my puzzle. Thanks Karma for your very interesting research!! (I am assuming that I can get these testing strips at the health food store or a drug store.) On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:48:35 -0600 "Karma Tucker" <karma@...> writes: Hi Everybody, For those of you who might have missed my posts because I didn't post it to this list. I have been studying why some people are slow losers and some people aren't. BodyFlex, Oxycise, Life Lift and the other Deep Breathing methods help our body to become Alkaline. I think that is one of the reasons we are able to lose inches and pounds by just breathing in the beginning. The problem is that plateau! Why are some people fast losers and some people slow losers or NON losers? I think Alkalinity might play a pretty important role in that question. I think we discussed the importance of having your essential fats in your diet. It is important to have a small amount of fat in your diet each day. Our bodies need the good stuff, not the bad stuff. I didn't have a problem with this because I basically follow the Zone way of combining food and it very specifically says to add fat to each meal, the good fat like Olive Oil. Or eat Salmon three times a week. I believe that I read in one of the books on Good Fat that Olive Oil actually turns Alkaline in the body. Yet another reason to use it. I believe it was the Extra Virgin Olive Oil that is Alkaline. Even though I am vegetarian, I was having problems getting alkaline. I think it is because I tend to like the sugars and breads which are really acid forming not to mention mucous forming causing a lot of problems in the colon. In my studying of Alkalinity, I actually went around and asked some of my "skinny" friends to do the tongue test with my pH papers. I found that they were alkaline! I WASN'T So, how do I get alkaline? I have really squewed up my body on this one because of all the dieting that I had done in the past. AND my tendency to prefer sweets over fresh foods. I do eat raw foods, and drink live juice yet couldn't seem to get my body to stay Alkaline! I started carrying some new products and have been using them. They are the Body Rescue Products. They are Alkalizing Products and do seem to be helping. I am becoming Alkaline! Yes!!! I can put the paper on my tongue and it turns green! Before it would stay yellow. (Acid) I am drinking the tea and I am taking the Alkalizing Drink as a couple of the snacks during the day. I used to grab a handful of something, now I am drinking an Alkalizing Drink instead and it is really helping me to get past my plateau. I have put together a web page that tells about it. http://www.loaves-n-fishes.com/bodyrescuebyraenamorgan.htm Hope Everyone Has a wonderful Thanksgiving. Just wanted to share. ~Karmahttp://loaves-n-fishes.com Vitamins, Herbs, etc. at discount prices.View my current auctions at: http://showcase.auctiva.com/Karma"Spread love everywhere you go: first of all in your own house. Give love to your children, to your wife or husband, to the next door neighbor... Let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living expression of God's kindness; kindness in your face, kindness in your eyes, kindness in your smile, kindness in your warm greeting."~Mother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2000 Report Share Posted November 24, 2000 Karma-can you recommend a good book that talks about alkalizing? What do you know about the effects and properties of apple cider vinegar on this subject? Thanks a million Ethleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2000 Report Share Posted November 24, 2000 Ethleen, I have several books on apple cider vinegar. Apple cider vinegar I believe turns alkaline in the body also. I will have to check on that for sure. I read the following books to learn more about alkalinity vs. acid: Body Rescue! A weight Normalization Plan by Raena This book is hard to get. I used to sell it, but my supplier no longer carries it. You might be able to find one at http://abebooks.com They sell hard to find books. Or you can contact Raena Enterprises, Inc. P.O. Box 922, Fargo, ND 58107-0922 Back to Eden by Jethro Kloss talks about it as does the Edgar Cayce teachings. Most of Dr. Ann Wigmore's books also talk about it. Another book is: The Cleanse Cookbook by Dreyer. You can buy it from me or you can buy it directly from and she will autograph it for you. her e-mail is seechristine@... http://www.transformyourlife.com/index.htm Another book that has recipes for alkaline and acid is: Food Combining for Vegetarians - The Original Hay Diet by Jackie Le Tissier ~Karmahttp://loaves-n-fishes.com Vitamins, Herbs, etc. at discount prices.View my current auctions at: http://showcase.auctiva.com/Karma"Spread love everywhere you go: first of all in your own house. Give love to your children, to your wife or husband, to the next door neighbor... Let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living expression of God's kindness; kindness in your face, kindness in your eyes, kindness in your smile, kindness in your warm greeting."~Mother Re: Alkalizing Karma-can you recommend a good book that talks about alkalizing? What do you know about the effects and properties of apple cider vinegar on this subject? Thanks a million Ethleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Hi Karma, I'm finally interested in alkalizing. What types of supplements cause your body to become more alkalized? Do Spirulina, barley, and chlorophyll alkalize? I remember you posting about green foods doing it. I'm interested in caps. rather than something to drink. I'm a wimp when it comes to drinking weird stuff, even cough syrup. :-o I know that's crazy, but that's the way I am. You got to love me. LOL Thanks! Love, Liz ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 Hi Vilik, It is my understanding that if you have adequate levels of calcium (and magnesium and trace minerals) in your body, your ph will be perfect. And if your ph is not perfect then you can automatically assume you do not have enough calcium. And so calcium should be the first line of attack when seeking to be more alkaline. And to attempt to alkalinize your body some other way. . . well, you might get the job done and still be low in calcium and it just doesn't make sense to me. It's like standing in the shade on a sunny day and saying I would like more heat and light, and instead of stepping out of the shade into the sun, you go and get a heat lamp and plug it in and get warmed up. Yes it works, but it isn't the first best way to go. Seems to me. Donna alkalizing Dear friends, A friend of mine is just getting into the alkalizing idea -- excerpts of her email to me below... ~~~~~~~~~~from a friend to me~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am learning about alkaline balance in the body. Seems this balance IS IT -- keep this balance and disease, aging, weight, fatigue all melt away... Emotions and thoughts have the most dramatic power on this balance in the body -- food does too, UNLESS the person is SO positive and " letting it in " that they stay in balance. So searching for research on this alkaline thing, found a great 2 tape set by Tony Robbins talking to a Dr. Young who has a book called " Sick and Tired. " This Super Greens drink Tony is NUTS for and can bring the body into super alkaline state, hence major energy and weight loss. And it is all about electrical charge- this Dr. Young is all about seeing the body as electirical energy and this drink is super charged. http://www.supergreens.com/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~me again~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I know we've talked about this before but I personally am feeling the need to alkalize at the moment and am wondering how you all are doing it, if you're doing it. Also in line with the recent discussion of astral healing I wonder how you would relate this topic to that. Can we " alkalize " our astral bodies? Is this where emotions and thoughts come in? Also I have read that deep breathing is alkalizing. Donna, would love to hear about coral calcium and alkalizing. ~^^V^^~ OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 Vilik Rapheles wrote: > I know we've talked about this before but I personally am feeling > the need to alkalize at the moment and am wondering how you all > are doing it, if you're doing it. From the " funny you should ask " department........ I was contemplating posting to the list, but was going to give it some more time. And speaking of " Dr. Young " , this is Young of the Young Living Oils I'm talking about here. Knowing that I've got to get more alkaline has led me to try many different things, most of which just have had very negative effects. So here I am with a bottle of " Alka-Lime " in the house and was putting off using it for the longest time, till 2 days ago. so far, I've got more energy than I've had in a long time---and a mind state that is coasting in more optimism than I've been able to achieve for quite awhile. What triggered my getting this bottle out was a short article I ran across the other day, about bicarbonates in the body and their role in digestion, alkalinization, among other things. Alka-Lime is a mixture of bicarbonates---sodium, calcium, magnesium, and potassium in that descending order. In addition it has lemon oil and 'other citrus oil' in the formula. I've seen rave reviews of this formula from other YL users, but that didn't really entice me until I saw the 'science' behind it. I'm not really sure yet, though, if this is the end of my seeking because my " noisy " joints have gotten noisier, almost over night it seems, and I've had a recurrence of my old leg pain today. That, however, could be attributable to this insane heat wave we're in the middle of. Of course, with my usual gusto I took the max dosage several times yesterday. You'd think I'd have learned by now that the body likes to make change slowly! So, I'm saving today's one small dose for bedtime. I don't know where I read that article, darn it, but it did say something about the bicarbonates eventually evening out(my terms, here) the whole pH balance of the body. that's something that has driven me bonkers for the longest time as I suspect that I've got an alkaline venous blood, but am in metabolic acidosis. Apparently that is not a contradiction at all, but I haven't been able to figure out what to do about it and I've followed certain regimens that are supposed to correct this. I've also studied everything I can get my hands on, and am still confused. Can anyone address the " creaky joints " ? I don't know about alkalizing the astral body, I think that's a little too far off the 'beaten track', but certainly everything that effects the physical first starts in what I usually call the 'etheric'. I think this origination is of emotional/spiritual nature and if one can understand (or not!) and heal these thoughts/ beliefs/attitudes, then ones's pH and everything else will just end up in a balanced state. Love and good health, Sharon, the forever student Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 Vit. D is good for very acid individuals. It will alkalinize. It causes calcium to go into the bones. Get some sun or take extra vit. D. We use D-Natural 5, which contains 5000 units a perle plus 10,000 vit. A. Experts are now saying that people need from 2000 - 4000 units a day anyway. BUT it is a GREAT time of the year to get that extra sun you've been needing. A day's worth of full body sun gives you about 10,000 units of D. jp It is my understanding that if you have adequate levels of calcium (and magnesium and trace minerals) in your body, your ph will be perfect. And if your ph is not perfect then you can automatically assume you do not have enough calcium. And so calcium should be the first line of attack when seeking to be more alkaline. And to attempt to alkalinize your body some other way. . . well, you might get the job done and still be low in calcium and it just doesn't make sense to me. It's like standing in the shade on a sunny day and saying I would like more heat and light, and instead of stepping out of the shade into the sun, you go and get a heat lamp and plug it in and get warmed up. Yes it works, but it isn't the first best way to go. Seems to me. Donna alkalizing Dear friends, A friend of mine is just getting into the alkalizing idea -- excerpts of her email to me below... ~~~~~~~~~~from a friend to me~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am learning about alkaline balance in the body. Seems this balance IS IT -- keep this balance and disease, aging, weight, fatigue all melt away... Emotions and thoughts have the most dramatic power on this balance in the body -- food does too, UNLESS the person is SO positive and " letting it in " that they stay in balance. So searching for research on this alkaline thing, found a great 2 tape set by Tony Robbins talking to a Dr. Young who has a book called " Sick and Tired. " This Super Greens drink Tony is NUTS for and can bring the body into super alkaline state, hence major energy and weight loss. And it is all about electrical charge- this Dr. Young is all about seeing the body as electirical energy and this drink is super charged. http://www.supergreens.com/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~me again~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I know we've talked about this before but I personally am feeling the need to alkalize at the moment and am wondering how you all are doing it, if you're doing it. Also in line with the recent discussion of astral healing I wonder how you would relate this topic to that. Can we " alkalize " our astral bodies? Is this where emotions and thoughts come in? Also I have read that deep breathing is alkalizing. Donna, would love to hear about coral calcium and alkalizing. ~^^V^^~ OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 : > How do you measure for ORP.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 You can buy an ORP meter. I have one that measures ORP, pH and temperature. I use it many times each day and it provides a guide for how I should look after myself. If I am getting down, it is usually time to do a fast with alkaline water and add colloidal minerals (including zeoilite). > > : > > > > > > How do you measure for ORP.? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Can you give more info about the meter (link) Cheers, Doug Re: Alkalizing You can buy an ORP meter. I have one that measures ORP, pH and temperature. I use it many times each day and it provides a guide for how I should look after myself. If I am getting down, it is usually time to do a fast with alkaline water and add colloidal minerals (including zeoilite). > > : > > > > > > How do you measure for ORP.? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 I am in Australia. I bought my i ORP meter from an Australian importer. I am sure that there are plenty in the USA. Just do a search. Here is a bit more information that I recently circulated to my database: This is a bit like a newsletter. It is just a reference about ORP and health that I found interesting. ORP = Oxygen Reduction Potential (a measure of antioxidant status) – the greater the negative (millivolts) the greater the antioxidant status of the liquid. Organic food has –ve ORP's. Supermarket food has +ve ORP's. My urine now measures as good as –ve 120 mV, a big improvement on –ve 20 mV only 3 weeks ago. I am quite sure I would have had +ve ORP readings 12 months ago. I am now aiming to get to better than –ve 200 mV. By the way, taking a walk on the beach away from your computer will improve your ORP. Having an argument (stress) with your partner will make it worse. Electrical pollution makes your urine ORP worse. And so does geopathic pollution. Dix and I have both had our ORP's improve dramatically lately. We now measure ourselves every day. It seems to be a good predictor and tells us when we need to increase our antioxidants, drink more good water, chelate more heavy metals, and eat more raw alkaline vegetables. My urine and saliva pH have both climbed from about 5.0 to over 7.0 over the last 6 months. An ORP/pH meter in every household might be a great help to keep families healthy. Just imagine if the children's ORP goes into +ve before they get sick. It is then time to boost their antioxidants, cut their junk food and get out in the fresh air and sun for some exercise. I understand that cancer patients mostly have urine with +ve ORP's. And so do other people with major illnesses. So take a precaution and keep a good negative ORP. An ORP meter is also a great way of testing the latest fad health drink. A tsp of Vitamin C (calcium ascorbate) will instantaneously change the ORP of tap water from +ve 200 mV to –ve 200 mV. We all know that Vit C is a good antioxidant. Our antioxidant water also measures –ve 200 mV or greater and when we add the tsp of Vit C, the ORP skyrockets to –ve 690 mV. This is a good discussion on ORP of urine/health found on http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/pH_2.html READER QUESTION 8/4/2006: Hasan from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia writes, " I read your article on urine's ORP & conductivity. ORP of my urine is always negative, it remains between minus 30 to minus 120 mV. How you can predict my health on this? " Ted replies, " Dear Hasan: Simply ORP measures your antioxidant status, whether your are in oxidation status (lacking in surplus electrons) if your ORP is near zero or positive (which is dangeous), or in the safe zone near -100 ORP. If your urine is near zero or dangerously positive, it tells you that you need to take your antioxidants, such as vitamin C, vitamin E, selenium, etc. I have found the best ways to get ORP in a negative where you have surplus electrons (antioxidant status prevents heart disease, aging, bacteria, pathogens, chemical toxins, cancer, etc), is to take vitamin C + baking soda + magnesium citrate. These three are critical to maintaing good negative ORP. The urine will immediately go negative. One useful, ORP is that it may be predictive of a potential health problems whenver it reaches positive value and by avoiding this you can avert a major sickness also. I have seen one person who told me his ORP is always positive and he sees no used in such a device. He felt great. A month or so later, I heard news that he died from a heart attack. It must be remembered that when measuring ORP that the figures must stabilized and usually, I wait usually 30 minutes to take the readings as being the standard. A more accurate figure would be one hour, but 30 minutes usually the best median figure. If you take the readings of only 5 minutes, or 15, ORP figures could fluctuate and numbers are not stable. Just make sure to take readings after 30 minutes and make sure the probe are adequately cleaned and stored in a KCl solution to protect against oxidation. Otherwise, the figures will not be accurate. Ted " 8/6/2006: Ted adds more: " Hasan: One more thing, this is not official numbers, but I have my own gauge that I personally measure. Here how it goes, just remember this is based on my experience and the values are subjected to change (antioxidant level): ORP levels and health (non-standard and arbitrary levels and also subjected to change) Positive figures Dangerous! 0 to -49 Fairly Unhealthy -50 to -99 Not so healthy -100 to -124 Average -125 to -149 Good -150 to -175 Healthy -175 up Excellent This is a fairly, arbitrary system. Anytime it goes below -100, I always start up on taking the antioxidants, baking soda, magnesium, vitamin C, and other things. Alpha lipoic acid will also quickly get the numbers up to par within a matter of hours too. My ORP is currently -175, as of today (15 minutes of reading only, don't have enough time to wait 30 minutes). And just to think, I haven't taken care of myself for several days now. Therefore the figures you see here for the grading scales are somewhat on the optimistic side. Ted P.S. In case you are wondering what my ORP is, mine usually averages over -200. Today's reading August 6, 2006 (almost 30 minute - actually it is 20 minutes) is -210. If 30 minutes figures usually go lower, so I guess it is closer to -220 or -230. Gives a fairly good prediction of how resistant to disease you are by measuring this antioxidant level. Ted " > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > How do you measure for ORP.? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Most nuts are acidic i believe, so what about coconut. I think i've read it is alkaline. Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 I've read that Coconut is Neutral. A nut that is supposed to be Alkaline is Almonds. Bonnie Re: Alkalizing Most nuts are acidic i believe, so what about coconut. I think i've read it is alkaline. Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Hi: Last year I joined this group and posted and no one ever wrote and nothing happened so I left. Bonnie Alkalizing Alkalize4Health/post This group has only 20 members, but could be a really interesting group if it got going. Why not post some questions about alkalizing. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 I just joined. Cheers, Doug Alkalizing Alkalize4Health/post This group has only 20 members, but could be a really interesting group if it got going. Why not post some questions about alkalizing. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 The Acid/Alkaline Balance: The most important factor in health! Have you ever heard that the acid/alkaline balance of the fluids in your body is the most important factor in health? It is. The Textbook of Medical Physiology by Arthur C. Guyton, M.D., probably the most recognized authority on human physiology states: " ...the regulation of hydrogen ion concentration (pH or acid/alkaline balance) is one of the most important aspects of homeostasis. " (Robbins, p. 13). In this article, I would like to focus on the medium (fluid) that bathes each cell in your body since it is responsible for maintaining your health and defenses against illness. Your body is filled with fluids both inside and outside the cells in the muscles, the brain, bones, the bloodstream, the spine, saliva, in urine, etc. Seventy Five percent of your body is water or we carry up to 10 gallons of fluid in our bodies. All fluids have a certain level of acidity or alkalinity. This level is measured by the pH value. The pH scale runs from zero to 14. A pH of 7 is considered neutral, while a pH higher than 7 is considered alkaline and a pH lower than 7 is considered acidic. The body wants to maintain a pH of 7.4 in the blood. Most other fluids in your body, except for the fluid in the stomach, is also slightly on the alkaline side. Why is this important to know? It is important to know because the cells of the body in health are alkaline. In disease the cell pH is below 7.0. The more acidic the cells become, the sicker we are and the worse we feel. How does the pH develop and how can you help the fluids in your body maintain their alkalinity in order to stay healthy? Here's how pH develops. Your body takes the food you eat, breaks it down into tiny pieces, then burns it to produce energy. The ash that is left makes the body's fluids (blood/urine/saliva) acidic or alkaline. This acidity or alkalinity level, known as pH, has a tremendous affect on your health. The main determining factor for maintaining a pH level on the alkaline or acidic side in our bodies is the food we eat. Foods are of two types, acid or alkaline. This refers to the ash value of a food or the type of residue that remains after the food is digested and processed. If the food leaves an acid residue, the body must neutralize this acid to keep the blood from becoming acidic . The acid is neutralized with alkalinity. Ideally there is adequate alkalinity (minerals) in the diet to do this. However, if there is not, the body must extract alkalinity (minerals) from its cells to neutralize the acid. Perpetuating this condition on a regular basis causes the cells to become acid, and eventually diseased. Dr. Ted Morter, in his book, " Your Health, Your Choice " , explains how the foods we eat affect pH levels. For example, high protein foods are generally metabolized to yield ash residues which cause conditions of acidity. Chlorine, sulfur and phosphorus are components of acid ash left over after the body metabolizes meat, fish, poultry and eggs. Most grains are also acid causing and so are most dairy foods. On the other hand, most fruits and vegetables are generally metabolized to yield ash residues which result in alkaline potentials for the body fluids. The majority of mineral elements found in fruits and vegetables are alkaline in solution including potassium, calcium, sodium and magnesium (pp.77-78). Because our bodies are an alkaline entity, in order to maintain health, the majority of our diet should consist of alkaline ash foods (fruits and vegetables). The more alkaline foods we consume, the healthier we'll become. Dr. Ted Morter recommends that we consume a diet that is 70 to 80% alkaline and 20 to 30% acid. The typical American diet is usually 20 to 30% alkaline foods and 70 to 80% acid foods. It is also not unusual for the average American today to go for days without eating any alkaline foods (fruits and vegetables). Is it any wonder that degenerative diseases are on the rise? If you find yourself eating mostly acid foods (grains, dairy, beef, fish and chicken) and feeling fatigued, you might want to consider adding to your diet one of the strongest alkaline forming foods on the planet: wild-crafted blue green algae. Make sure it is the wild kind, as that is the one that is alkaline (http://tinyurl.com/g1iz) Dr. Apsley in his book, " The Regeneration Effect " , states that wild-crafted blue green algae is 23% natural mineral complex. This percentage is a reference to its entire mineral complex, not the mineral ash content which is typically listed at 7% (p. 52). Over 40 macro and micro minerals have been identified in wild-crafted blue green algae. The assimilation rate of these minerals into your body may approach 100% (p. 52). Karl Abrams, professor of chemistry at Saddleback College in Orange County, California, calls the abundance of minerals in wild-crafted blue green algae " A Treasure Trove " . We hope you can add more organic fruits and vegetables to your daily diet and we also hope that you will consider adding wild-crafted blue green algae as your alkaline insurance food. A diet high in alkaline foods may help you maintain a healthy body and keep you robust enough to blow out the candles when you celebrate your 100th birthday anniversary. References: Abrams, Karl. (1996). Algae to the Rescue! Studio City, CA: logan House Pub. Apsley, W. (1996). The Regeneration Effect. Northport, AL: Genesis Communication. Morter, Ted. (1976). Your Health, Your Choice. Hollywood, FL: Fell's Publishers, Inc. Robbins, . Health Through Nutrition. Colonia, NJ: Vitality Unlimited, Inc. 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Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 you are talking about alkalinizing4health not coconutoilopen forum, right? We always have someone to reply here. in NC Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote: Hi: Last year I joined this group and posted and no one ever wrote and nothing happened so I left. Bonnie Alkalizing Alkalize4Health/post This group has only 20 members, but could be a really interesting group if it got going. Why not post some questions about alkalizing. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 If lemons help with alkalizing sugar metabolism etc,then I think it should be fine are we not all on here to discuss and better our health,I am, and after I go to the gym I think I will go buy a few lemons,to cut up and put in my water.Jeff DeGolier Wilkins <montemomma2002@...> wrote: you are talking about alkalinizing4health not coconutoilopen forum, right? We always have someone to reply here. in NC Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote: Hi: Last year I joined this group and posted and no one ever wrote and nothing happened so I left. Bonnie Alkalizing Alkalize4Health/post This group has only 20 members, but could be a really interesting group if it got going. Why not post some questions about alkalizing. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 > Carol you could put this on Alkalize4health forum or i could cross post it for you. > The Acid/Alkaline Balance: > The most important factor in health! > > Have you ever heard that the acid/alkaline balance of the fluids in your > body is the most important factor in health? It is. The Textbook of Medical > Physiology by Arthur C. Guyton, M.D., probably the most recognized authority > on human physiology states: " ...the regulation of hydrogen ion concentration > (pH or acid/alkaline balance) is one of the most important aspects of > homeostasis. " (Robbins, p. 13). > > In this article, I would like to focus on the medium (fluid) that bathes > each cell in your body since it is responsible for maintaining your health > and defenses against illness. > > Your body is filled with fluids both inside and outside the cells in the > muscles, the brain, bones, the bloodstream, the spine, saliva, in urine, > etc. Seventy Five percent of your body is water or we carry up to 10 gallons > of fluid in our bodies. > > All fluids have a certain level of acidity or alkalinity. This level is > measured by the pH value. The pH scale runs from zero to 14. A pH of 7 is > considered neutral, while a pH higher than 7 is considered alkaline and a pH > lower than 7 is considered acidic. The body wants to maintain a pH of 7.4 in > the blood. Most other fluids in your body, except for the fluid in the > stomach, is also slightly on the alkaline side. > > Why is this important to know? It is important to know because the cells of > the body in health are alkaline. In disease the cell pH is below 7.0. The > more acidic the cells become, the sicker we are and the worse we feel. How > does the pH develop and how can you help the fluids in your body maintain > their alkalinity in order to stay healthy? > > Here's how pH develops. Your body takes the food you eat, breaks it down > into tiny pieces, then burns it to produce energy. The ash that is left > makes the body's fluids (blood/urine/saliva) acidic or alkaline. This > acidity or alkalinity level, known as pH, has a tremendous affect on your > health. > > The main determining factor for maintaining a pH level on the alkaline or > acidic side in our bodies is the food we eat. Foods are of two types, acid > or alkaline. This refers to the ash value of a food or the type of residue > that remains after the food is digested and processed. If the food leaves an > acid residue, the body must neutralize this acid to keep the blood from > becoming acidic . The acid is neutralized with alkalinity. Ideally there is > adequate alkalinity (minerals) in the diet to do this. However, if there is > not, the body must extract alkalinity (minerals) from its cells to > neutralize the acid. Perpetuating this condition on a regular basis causes > the cells to become acid, and eventually diseased. > > Dr. Ted Morter, in his book, " Your Health, Your Choice " , explains how the > foods we eat affect pH levels. For example, high protein foods are generally > metabolized to yield ash residues which cause conditions of acidity. > Chlorine, sulfur and phosphorus are components of acid ash left over after > the body metabolizes meat, fish, poultry and eggs. Most grains are also acid > causing and so are most dairy foods. On the other hand, most fruits and > vegetables are generally metabolized to yield ash residues which result in > alkaline potentials for the body fluids. The majority of mineral elements > found in fruits and vegetables are alkaline in solution including potassium, > calcium, sodium and magnesium (pp.77-78). > > Because our bodies are an alkaline entity, in order to maintain health, the > majority of our diet should consist of alkaline ash foods (fruits and > vegetables). The more alkaline foods we consume, the healthier we'll become. > Dr. Ted Morter recommends that we consume a diet that is 70 to 80% alkaline > and 20 to 30% acid. > > The typical American diet is usually 20 to 30% alkaline foods and 70 to 80% > acid foods. It is also not unusual for the average American today to go for > days without eating any alkaline foods (fruits and vegetables). Is it any > wonder that degenerative diseases are on the rise? > > If you find yourself eating mostly acid foods (grains, dairy, beef, fish and > chicken) and feeling fatigued, you might want to consider adding to your > diet one of the strongest alkaline forming foods on the planet: wild-crafted > blue green algae. Make sure it is the wild kind, as that is the one that is > alkaline (http://tinyurl.com/g1iz) > > Dr. Apsley in his book, " The Regeneration Effect " , states that > wild-crafted blue green algae is 23% natural mineral complex. This > percentage is a reference to its entire mineral complex, not the mineral ash > content which is typically listed at 7% (p. 52). Over 40 macro and micro > minerals have been identified in wild-crafted blue green algae. The > assimilation rate of these minerals into your body may approach 100% (p. > 52). Karl Abrams, professor of chemistry at Saddleback College in Orange > County, California, calls the abundance of minerals in wild-crafted blue > green algae " A Treasure Trove " . > > We hope you can add more organic fruits and vegetables to your daily diet > and we also hope that you will consider adding wild-crafted blue green algae > as your alkaline insurance food. A diet high in alkaline foods may help you > maintain a healthy body and keep you robust enough to blow out the candles > when you celebrate your 100th birthday anniversary. > > References: > Abrams, Karl. (1996). Algae to the Rescue! Studio City, CA: logan House Pub. > > Apsley, W. (1996). The Regeneration Effect. Northport, AL: Genesis > Communication. > Morter, Ted. (1976). Your Health, Your Choice. Hollywood, FL: Fell's > Publishers, Inc. > Robbins, . Health Through Nutrition. Colonia, NJ: Vitality Unlimited, > Inc. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 An important detail on the comment that " most dairy " is acid- producing: a component, undenatured whey, is uniquely alkalizing, and it also provides precursors for glutathione, the body's master antioxidant and detoxifier. The article specifically mentions fatigue; glutathione created by undenatured whey is used in the energy cycle in addition to removing the metabolic impairments that cause fatigue, such as toxins, most of which are acidic. Glutathione is well-established to be part of the cure for acidity, toxin load and free radical damage (oxidative stress). Duncan On 3 Apr 2007 at 7:39, Coconut Oil wrote: > > Posted by: " Carol Minnick " carol@... algaelady1 > Date: Mon Apr 2, 2007 4:12 am ((PDT)) > > The Acid/Alkaline Balance: > The most important factor in health! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Hey Steph, Back in the mid 90s I was very ill and half of my hair had fallen out and was still coming out. Almost everything I ate gave me extreme digestive pain. My heart would race to over 200 BPM and I felt very ill all of the time. I went to 3 MD Specialist, wore one of those moniters, but they didn't seem to know the problem. Someone brought a video on the Hallelujah Acres diet/program to church. I already had a Champion Juicer so every morning I juiced a qt. of carrot /apple juice. I drank 8 oz with a TSP of barley green in it and put the remainder 3 in 8 oz containers and took to work in a small Igloo cooler and kept a jar of BG in my locker to add to the drink. I found I could eat grapes and other fruits with no pain and I always took a salad for lunch. Since I was so sick and had so little energy, I had to keep it simple. We did eat simple cooked foods for supper. It took 8 months of this program to see some light at the end of the tunnel. When my hair, which had been coming out for over a yr., started growing back in, I knew I was on the road to recovery. There is just no quick fix when it comes to rebuilding health. About the baking soda...it may be a good thing now & then but if you constantly do that, you are neutralizing your digestive juice. Good digestion is everything. If we have it, we wouldn't be so ill. Didn't you say your husband was disabled? Who cooks for him or is he able to do that? Take care, Edith In a message dated 10/6/2007 5:21:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, ectopistes@... writes: DCH, I WISH I knew how to alkalize my body. I think I am doing all the right things but it is not happening. The homozon, which is supposed to be very alkaline?, burns me too bad. Still I take it maybe twice a week as I can tolerate. I am also drinking the baking soda water. Am juicing and drinking plenty of greens, still NOTHING seems to help. I am so full of fungus that there is thick slime in my mouth day and night. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Steph, Do you understand the healing crisis that comes with changing to this sort of program? I did almost lose my job over being sick but mostly because the crisis would last several days. when I got sick, I needed 4 years to retire. I limped thru and was able to with my husband pushing me the whole way... I wanted to quit. Don't give up when the crisis begins. Keep the bowels open and drink plenty of water. good luck, Edith In a message dated 10/6/2007 7:32:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, ectopistes@... writes: Edith, being that sick as you described and having to go to work that way must have been hell on earth for you. Glad you are doing a little better now. I plan to stick to the hallelujah diet too!!! As bad as I feel, I am always counting my huge blessings that I don't have to go out and do a job on schedule. Not that I don't work harder at home, but at least I am not on an extremely tight schedule like those that have to drive to a job on time every day and worry about missing work and getting fired. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Steph, Do you understand the healing crisis that comes with changing to this sort of program? I did almost lose my job over being sick but mostly because the crisis would last several days. when I got sick, I needed 4 years to retire. I limped thru and was able to with my husband pushing me the whole way... I wanted to quit. Don't give up when the crisis begins. Keep the bowels open and drink plenty of water. good luck, Edith In a message dated 10/6/2007 7:32:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, ectopistes@... writes: Edith, being that sick as you described and having to go to work that way must have been hell on earth for you. Glad you are doing a little better now. I plan to stick to the hallelujah diet too!!! As bad as I feel, I am always counting my huge blessings that I don't have to go out and do a job on schedule. Not that I don't work harder at home, but at least I am not on an extremely tight schedule like those that have to drive to a job on time every day and worry about missing work and getting fired. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Edith, being that sick as you described and having to go to work that way must have been hell on earth for you. Glad you are doing a little better now. I plan to stick to the hallelujah diet too!!! As bad as I feel, I am always counting my huge blessings that I don't have to go out and do a job on schedule. Not that I don't work harder at home, but at least I am not on an extremely tight schedule like those that have to drive to a job on time every day and worry about missing work and getting fired. I make many trips to town in the afternoons, so I manage to get to Walmart at least three times a week. In Cheifland, which is where I go, they have lots of restaraunts and fast food places etc... My husband will NOT eat anything healthy no matter how hard I try to get him to do so. He drank the juice I was making for about a week and then said it just made him so sick he would not take it anymore. He likes cake and icecream every night before bed, hambergers from Macs, likes pork and eats a lot of sausages and meats which he used to cook for himself. Now that he can't cook all that pork sausage he might live a little longer LOL. He smoked three packs a day of the camels so he now has COPD and the damage is permanent. I begged him to stop but he would not until he could no longer breathe well enough to puff on one. He is doing the same thing with his diet. I do pick up for him prepared foods from places like the Chinese restaraunt and the types of meat dinners he likes from other good restaraunts on the way home. Kentucky fried chicken, pizza places, subway, prepared salads from Walmart etc... It is the only kind of food I can get him to eat. Even if I cooked for him a lot (which I used to do before I got so ill), he would still want the same stuff and I can't see killing myself for that when i can scaresly do enough to feed myself what I am supposed to eat. Don't ask me how we ever got together because I truely have no answer 8:>{{ Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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