Re: Frustrated! - Please Help

[Guest guest]

>

> I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought it was

> gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all started about

> six weeks ago. I felt much better although not completely back to normal

> after a flush and taking ACV but now the discomfort is back. Is this

> usually an ongoing battle to keep the symptoms under control? I have very

> uncomfortable pressure under my right rib, slight stabbing pain under my

> shoulder blade, and pain in the right side about eight inches below my arm

> pit. It is not tender to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder?

> Everyone tells me that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had

> anything severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

>

> I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have an appt.

> on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do now to relieve

> this horrible pressure?

>

> Thanks for any advice!

>

>

I had severe pain during my one and only attack. I did several flushes and

passed hundreds of stones for over a YEAR! I still have stones (as

confirmed by another sonogram) but only pass one every now and then now. I

not longer have PAIN but every once in awhile, I get an uncomfortable

feeling in that right rib area. When that happens, I take extra A-F

Betafood tablets and that always solves the problem. Yes, it could be an on

going problem and you have to watch what you eat. I highly suggest you get

A-F Betafood tablets.

Amber

[Guest guest]

My ultrasound showed no stones as well, but supposedly only the large

calcified stones show on an ultrasound. I didn't have any sever pain

either except in the shoulder one night.

The conventionaly advice is to:

1) change your diet

2) add some supplements to your diet

3) do multiple flushes

This is something that will take weeks if not months to turn around.

In my situation, I looked at it as a wake up call. The GB problems

were a sign that I needed to change my lifestyle. If someone offered

me a choice of taking a little pill to get rid of my GB problems or

to do the above mentioned things, I would do the above instead. I

hope you get the point.

Please do not let anyone including your doctor or surgeon talk you

into cutting out an important organ. Keeping this important organ

and changing your lifestyle is the best thing that you can do for

yourself!

Good luck to you!

--- In gallstones , " Kay " <heatherkay08@...>

wrote:

>

> I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought it

was gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all

started about six weeks ago. I felt much better although not

completely back to normal after a flush and taking ACV but now the

discomfort is back. Is this usually an ongoing battle to keep the

symptoms under control? I have very uncomfortable pressure under my

right rib, slight stabbing pain under my shoulder blade, and pain in

the right side about eight inches below my arm pit. It is not tender

to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder? Everyone tells me

that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had anything

severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

>

> I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have an

appt. on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do now

to relieve this horrible pressure?

>

> Thanks for any advice!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I don't plan on jumping into surgery right away and possibly never if I

can get control of this. I just want to make sure that I am dealing with gall

bladder since I don't have any visible stones and no severe pain. I am 34 and

have had two children so it is most likely gall bladder related. It seems to be

related to what I eat most of the time but other times it isn't. If I splurge

on a slice of pizza, I feel it the next day. I didn't eat anything yesterday

that should have bothered me but I am very uncomfortable this morning.

Re: Frustrated! - Please Help

My ultrasound showed no stones as well, but supposedly only the large

calcified stones show on an ultrasound. I didn't have any sever pain

either except in the shoulder one night.

The conventionaly advice is to:

1) change your diet

2) add some supplements to your diet

3) do multiple flushes

This is something that will take weeks if not months to turn around.

In my situation, I looked at it as a wake up call. The GB problems

were a sign that I needed to change my lifestyle. If someone offered

me a choice of taking a little pill to get rid of my GB problems or

to do the above mentioned things, I would do the above instead. I

hope you get the point.

Please do not let anyone including your doctor or surgeon talk you

into cutting out an important organ. Keeping this important organ

and changing your lifestyle is the best thing that you can do for

yourself!

Good luck to you!

>

> I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought it

was gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all

started about six weeks ago. I felt much better although not

completely back to normal after a flush and taking ACV but now the

discomfort is back. Is this usually an ongoing battle to keep the

symptoms under control? I have very uncomfortable pressure under my

right rib, slight stabbing pain under my shoulder blade, and pain in

the right side about eight inches below my arm pit. It is not tender

to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder? Everyone tells me

that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had anything

severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

>

> I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have an

appt. on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do now

to relieve this horrible pressure?

>

> Thanks for any advice!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can find lists of the foods that are the biggest offenders on the

web. I don't have such a list handy. I know that eggs are at the

top of the list. You may just want to experiment with different

foods that are on the list keeping a journal if necessary in order to

determine which foods cause you symptoms.

In addition to avoiding foods that cause your symptoms, it is wise to

avoid foods that are unhealthy for the liver and GB. There are

really two different objectives as I see it. One is short-term which

is to alleviate symptoms. The other is long-term which is to build a

healthier liver and GB.

Good luck!

> >

> > I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought

it

> was gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all

> started about six weeks ago. I felt much better although not

> completely back to normal after a flush and taking ACV but now

the

> discomfort is back. Is this usually an ongoing battle to keep the

> symptoms under control? I have very uncomfortable pressure under

my

> right rib, slight stabbing pain under my shoulder blade, and pain

in

> the right side about eight inches below my arm pit. It is not

tender

> to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder? Everyone tells

me

> that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had anything

> severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

> >

> > I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have

an

> appt. on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do

now

> to relieve this horrible pressure?

> >

> > Thanks for any advice!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

keep a food log and check for patterns in how you react, plus you will ;probably

lose some weight...

Re: Frustrated! - Please Help

You can find lists of the foods that are the biggest offenders on the

web. I don't have such a list handy. I know that eggs are at the

top of the list. You may just want to experiment with different

foods that are on the list keeping a journal if necessary in order to

determine which foods cause you symptoms.

In addition to avoiding foods that cause your symptoms, it is wise to

avoid foods that are unhealthy for the liver and GB. There are

really two different objectives as I see it. One is short-term which

is to alleviate symptoms. The other is long-term which is to build a

healthier liver and GB.

Good luck!

> >

> > I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought

it

> was gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all

> started about six weeks ago. I felt much better although not

> completely back to normal after a flush and taking ACV but now

the

> discomfort is back. Is this usually an ongoing battle to keep the

> symptoms under control? I have very uncomfortable pressure under

my

> right rib, slight stabbing pain under my shoulder blade, and pain

in

> the right side about eight inches below my arm pit. It is not

tender

> to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder? Everyone tells

me

> that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had anything

> severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

> >

> > I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have

an

> appt. on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do

now

> to relieve this horrible pressure?

> >

> > Thanks for any advice!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

drink a spoon of apple cider vinegar...at anytime.

Re: Frustrated! - Please Help

My ultrasound showed no stones as well, but supposedly only the large

calcified stones show on an ultrasound. I didn't have any sever pain

either except in the shoulder one night.

The conventionaly advice is to:

1) change your diet

2) add some supplements to your diet

3) do multiple flushes

This is something that will take weeks if not months to turn around.

In my situation, I looked at it as a wake up call. The GB problems

were a sign that I needed to change my lifestyle. If someone offered

me a choice of taking a little pill to get rid of my GB problems or

to do the above mentioned things, I would do the above instead. I

hope you get the point.

Please do not let anyone including your doctor or surgeon talk you

into cutting out an important organ. Keeping this important organ

and changing your lifestyle is the best thing that you can do for

yourself!

Good luck to you!

--- In gallstones@gro ups.com, " Kay " <heatherkay08@ ...>

wrote:

>

> I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought it

was gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all

started about six weeks ago. I felt much better although not

completely back to normal after a flush and taking ACV but now the

discomfort is back. Is this usually an ongoing battle to keep the

symptoms under control? I have very uncomfortable pressure under my

right rib, slight stabbing pain under my shoulder blade, and pain in

the right side about eight inches below my arm pit. It is not tender

to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder? Everyone tells me

that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had anything

severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

>

> I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have an

appt. on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do now

to relieve this horrible pressure?

>

> Thanks for any advice!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

100% agree

Re: Frustrated! - Please Help

My ultrasound showed no stones as well, but supposedly only the large

calcified stones show on an ultrasound. I didn't have any sever pain

either except in the shoulder one night.

The conventionaly advice is to:

1) change your diet

2) add some supplements to your diet

3) do multiple flushes

This is something that will take weeks if not months to turn around.

In my situation, I looked at it as a wake up call. The GB problems

were a sign that I needed to change my lifestyle. If someone offered

me a choice of taking a little pill to get rid of my GB problems or

to do the above mentioned things, I would do the above instead. I

hope you get the point.

Please do not let anyone including your doctor or surgeon talk you

into cutting out an important organ. Keeping this important organ

and changing your lifestyle is the best thing that you can do for

yourself!

Good luck to you!

--- In gallstones@gro ups.com, " Kay " <heatherkay08@ ...>

wrote:

>

> I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought it

was gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all

started about six weeks ago. I felt much better although not

completely back to normal after a flush and taking ACV but now the

discomfort is back. Is this usually an ongoing battle to keep the

symptoms under control? I have very uncomfortable pressure under my

right rib, slight stabbing pain under my shoulder blade, and pain in

the right side about eight inches below my arm pit. It is not tender

to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder? Everyone tells me

that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had anything

severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

>

> I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have an

appt. on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do now

to relieve this horrible pressure?

>

> Thanks for any advice!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

it is possible that you removed some stones, but others have moved forward into

the place of those, so do what you did before, and see if it alleviates

symptoms...and repeat.

Re: Frustrated! - Please Help

>

> I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought it was

> gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all started about

> six weeks ago. I felt much better although not completely back to normal

> after a flush and taking ACV but now the discomfort is back. Is this

> usually an ongoing battle to keep the symptoms under control? I have very

> uncomfortable pressure under my right rib, slight stabbing pain under my

> shoulder blade, and pain in the right side about eight inches below my arm

> pit. It is not tender to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder?

> Everyone tells me that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had

> anything severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

>

> I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have an appt.

> on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do now to relieve

> this horrible pressure?

>

> Thanks for any advice!

>

>

I had severe pain during my one and only attack. I did several flushes and

passed hundreds of stones for over a YEAR! I still have stones (as

confirmed by another sonogram) but only pass one every now and then now. I

not longer have PAIN but every once in awhile, I get an uncomfortable

feeling in that right rib area. When that happens, I take extra A-F

Betafood tablets and that always solves the problem. Yes, it could be an on

going problem and you have to watch what you eat. I highly suggest you get

A-F Betafood tablets.

Amber

[Guest guest]

How often does the flush need to be repeated?

Re: Frustrated! - Please Help

>

> I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought it was

> gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all started about

> six weeks ago. I felt much better although not completely back to normal

> after a flush and taking ACV but now the discomfort is back. Is this

> usually an ongoing battle to keep the symptoms under control? I have very

> uncomfortable pressure under my right rib, slight stabbing pain under my

> shoulder blade, and pain in the right side about eight inches below my arm

> pit. It is not tender to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder?

> Everyone tells me that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had

> anything severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

>

> I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have an appt.

> on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do now to relieve

> this horrible pressure?

>

> Thanks for any advice!

>

>

I had severe pain during my one and only attack. I did several flushes and

passed hundreds of stones for over a YEAR! I still have stones (as

confirmed by another sonogram) but only pass one every now and then now. I

not longer have PAIN but every once in awhile, I get an uncomfortable

feeling in that right rib area. When that happens, I take extra A-F

Betafood tablets and that always solves the problem. Yes, it could be an on

going problem and you have to watch what you eat. I highly suggest you get

A-F Betafood tablets.

Amber

[Guest guest]

Try alkalizing your system - it would mean a day of juicing - it may

help

Here is a recent post

Alkalizing one's system can go a long ways in helping your body

control / run optimally - - I know of a practitioner who has cleared

kidney stones with this recipe - not sure what it does for GB stones/

issues;

3/4 Gallon Carrot Juice

4 ounces of Beet juice

8 ounces Celery juice

1 ounce Parsley juice

1 ounce spinach juice

best if juice is not pasteurized - there are many health food stores /

markets that will juice for u

Consume it in one day -

good luck

On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:10 AM, Kay wrote:

> Thanks! I don't plan on jumping into surgery right away and possibly

> never if I can get control of this. I just want to make sure that I

> am dealing with gall bladder since I don't have any visible stones

> and no severe pain. I am 34 and have had two children so it is most

> likely gall bladder related. It seems to be related to what I eat

> most of the time but other times it isn't. If I splurge on a slice

> of pizza, I feel it the next day. I didn't eat anything yesterday

> that should have bothered me but I am very uncomfortable this morning.

>

> Re: Frustrated! - Please Help

>

> My ultrasound showed no stones as well, but supposedly only the large

> calcified stones show on an ultrasound. I didn't have any sever pain

> either except in the shoulder one night.

>

> The conventionaly advice is to:

> 1) change your diet

> 2) add some supplements to your diet

> 3) do multiple flushes

>

> This is something that will take weeks if not months to turn around.

> In my situation, I looked at it as a wake up call. The GB problems

> were a sign that I needed to change my lifestyle. If someone offered

> me a choice of taking a little pill to get rid of my GB problems or

> to do the above mentioned things, I would do the above instead. I

> hope you get the point.

>

> Please do not let anyone including your doctor or surgeon talk you

> into cutting out an important organ. Keeping this important organ

> and changing your lifestyle is the best thing that you can do for

> yourself!

>

> Good luck to you!

>

>

> >

> > I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought it

> was gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all

> started about six weeks ago. I felt much better although not

> completely back to normal after a flush and taking ACV but now the

> discomfort is back. Is this usually an ongoing battle to keep the

> symptoms under control? I have very uncomfortable pressure under my

> right rib, slight stabbing pain under my shoulder blade, and pain in

> the right side about eight inches below my arm pit. It is not tender

> to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder? Everyone tells me

> that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had anything

> severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

> >

> > I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have an

> appt. on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do now

> to relieve this horrible pressure?

> >

> > Thanks for any advice!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I do it every two weeks until little comes out

Re: Frustrated! - Please Help

>

> I have been battling something for a while. The doctor thought it was

> gall stones but the ultrasound showed no stones. This all started about

> six weeks ago. I felt much better although not completely back to normal

> after a flush and taking ACV but now the discomfort is back. Is this

> usually an ongoing battle to keep the symptoms under control? I have very

> uncomfortable pressure under my right rib, slight stabbing pain under my

> shoulder blade, and pain in the right side about eight inches below my arm

> pit. It is not tender to the touch. Does this sound like gall bladder?

> Everyone tells me that gall bladder would be severe pain but I haven't had

> anything severe...just mild pain and very uncomfortable.

>

> I am planning on going in and getting a second opinion. I have an appt.

> on Friday to discuss this with the doctor but what can I do now to relieve

> this horrible pressure?

>

> Thanks for any advice!

>

>

I had severe pain during my one and only attack. I did several flushes and

passed hundreds of stones for over a YEAR! I still have stones (as

confirmed by another sonogram) but only pass one every now and then now. I

not longer have PAIN but every once in awhile, I get an uncomfortable

feeling in that right rib area. When that happens, I take extra A-F

Betafood tablets and that always solves the problem. Yes, it could be an on

going problem and you have to watch what you eat. I highly suggest you get

A-F Betafood tablets.

Amber

[Guest guest]

~I like Hulda 's cleanse, and she recommends that you do

the cleanse 2 weeks apart until you get about 2,000 stones out, or

until you don't see anymore. Then go on maintenance and do them once

or twice a year because we are always building them. It took awhile

to build up your stones so it may take some time to get rid of all of

them. Just like cancer supposedly can't grow in an alkaline system,

we should do everything we can to alkalinize our bodies. S.A.D.

(standard american diet) is very acidic and I feel our diets are way

to acidic these days. I like 's idea of juicing for at least a

day. The body always loves a rest from digesting. I eat fruit or

juice only until noon or so, do my flax oil and cottage cheese two

or three days a week, and then eat normally for the rest of the day.

I find that everything tastes better and you have a real appetite

again. Took awhile to get used to it, but now I can't imagine eating

any other way. Lost 20 pounds in a few months and have kept it off

for 3 years......wasn't my goal to lose weight but was thrilled about

it! The Fit for Life program is pretty healthy, and I don't do it

all the time because of the food combining and all, but it makes

sense. Amazon has the book for a penny sometimes. Make sure you're

getting enuf water in-between meals to keep your system cleaned out.

When I don't get enuf water I feel toxic.

Good luck!

herbladie

>

> I do it every two weeks until little comes out

>

>

> How often does the flush need to be repeated?

>

>