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It is probably doing it's job, but the aching is from the dysfunction. Make

sure you are getting plenty of cold pressed oils and water to make sure you have

the medium for manufacturing bile. Dave

gallstones@...: Mom2SavNSyd@...: Fri, 23 May 2008

16:03:16 -0400Subject: Milk Thistle

Everyone says Milk Thistle is good for your Gallbladder. But when I took Milk

Thistle from walmart *yes I know not the best choice* it made my gallbladder

ache more. I thought it was supposed to help? Would taking a better quality milk

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Oils and fats are essential to liver and gallbladder health. Bile is a mixture

of aqueos and lipid constituents (plus bile acids and bilirubin as well as

filtered waste products). you cannot make bile without the oils/fats. Now this

can come from fats in the body as in weight loss but you still need thinner more

fluid lipids. The whole fats/oils discussion is about quality not quantitiy.

Cold pressed oils that have not been heated or altered are some of the important

ones. Olive, sunflower, safflower, walnut, apricot kernel, avocado, sesame,

coconut, etc. Notice I did not list canola. High heated fats, hydrogenated,

etc.= death. Butter and lard from organic sources are ok. Ghee is even better.

" Good Fats, Bad Fats " is a great primer. The guru is Udo Erasmus (sp?). you

can get a blend that he put together at the health food store called Udo's oil,

but the most important thing is to read his or other good books and get

educated.Dave

gallstones@...: admilby@...: Fri, 23 May 2008

17:15:04 -0700Subject: RE: Milk Thistle

what is cold pressed oil and fats mean?

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I've started on Liveraide Silymarin Capsules to eliminate the fatty

infiltration of my liver. This supplement is based on milk thistle.

I'm hoping that I could improve my liver's health with this supplement plus

a change of diet to fruits and veggies.

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I heard good things about milk thistle, I am nervous about herb subs, I guess I

don't want to take the time to do the reserach.

 

I'm not so good at the advice giving...but can I interest you in a sacastic

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Subject: Milk Thistle

gallstones

Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 4:57 AM

I've started on Liveraide Silymarin Capsules to eliminate the fatty

infiltration of my liver. This supplement is based on milk thistle.

I'm hoping that I could improve my liver's health with this supplement plus

a change of diet to fruits and veggies.

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I am not a doctor so please take my post with a grain of salt... or

rather with ton of salt. :)

I observed that milk thistle in Europe is nuch more expensive than in

USA and asked pharmacist if he has any US brand milk thistle. He

said he does not have any but he knows exactly why US products are

less expensive. He says that they do not contain enough active

ingredients to have any effect on liver.

I compared the most popular GNC products

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?

productId=2539691 & cp=2271690 & sr=1 & origkw=milk+thistle & parentPage=famil

y

Milk Thistle Seed Extract (Silybum marianum)(80% Silymarin = 160mg

vs

German product 600mg

I am using now this product Silymarin 720 mg:

http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item00702/Mega-Silymarin-with-

Isosilybin-B.html

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So sorry to inform all of my Brethren in America, but the reason for the

difference in price is unfortunately a bit different... It is called Codex...

Have not heard of it? Ask your legislator... Codex is in full force in Eu.

Our lovely elected officialdom bought and sold us to it in 2005. Coming to a

country near you... This is a well planned and engineered attempt (successful I

might add) to control all natural means of health maintenance.

While in Germany last year, the land of natural alternatives in " medicine " ,

having many people in need of this type of care, I was appalled to find out that

none was available! Codex Alimentus.... See it... Read it... Just try and

digest it... Think your gallbladder is giving you fits now? Try and digest

this... It has already been done to you...

Codex, sold to you as a means of making sure that the natural products

industry is safe for you as determined by big Daddy government, is nothing more

than a ring in your nose...

Where is your wallet?... Let me see...

Always, in all ways,

-Dave

Re: Milk Thistle

I am not a doctor so please take my post with a grain of salt... or

rather with ton of salt. :)

I observed that milk thistle in Europe is nuch more expensive than in

USA and asked pharmacist if he has any US brand milk thistle. He

said he does not have any but he knows exactly why US products are

less expensive. He says that they do not contain enough active

ingredients to have any effect on liver.

I compared the most popular GNC products

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?<http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?>

productId=2539691 & cp=2271690 & sr=1 & origkw=milk+thistle & parentPage=famil

y

Milk Thistle Seed Extract (Silybum marianum)(80% Silymarin = 160mg

vs

German product 600mg

I am using now this product Silymarin 720 mg:

http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item00702/Mega-Silymarin-with-<http://ww\

w.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item00702/Mega-Silymarin-with->

Isosilybin-B.html

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I take this:

http://products.usana.com/en/products/us/optomizers/hepasil.shtml

Remember also that it doesn't matter how much is in what you're taking

if the pills don't break down. The supplements I take are highly bio-

available and I trust in the products the company provides.

Evie

He says that they do not contain enough active

> ingredients to have any effect on liver.

>

> I compared the most popular GNC products

> http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?

> productId=2539691 & cp=2271690 & sr=1 & origkw=milk+thistle & parentPage=famil

> y

> Milk Thistle Seed Extract (Silybum marianum)(80% Silymarin = 160mg

> vs

> German product 600mg

>

> I am using now this product Silymarin 720 mg:

> http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item00702/Mega-Silymarin-with-

> Isosilybin-B.html

>

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