Re: Question about flush proceedure

[Guest guest]

Hi Brad,

I always drink water after I stop eating at 2pm, and throughout the

rest of the day into the evening whenever I feel like it on the days

I've done my flushes. It's never posed any problem for me.

Good luck doing your flush! Will you let us know how it goes for you

please?

elan

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> Am I reading the protocol right? I thought I read from the H

> protocol not to drink anything including water from 2pm when we stop

> eating to 6 pm (1st dose of epsom salts).

>

> I don't want to dehydrate myself as that seems to happen quickly.

>

> Any imput?

>

> Flushing tonight

> Brad

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Elan,

Thanks for the advice.

My flush went well thanks. I got much better results on less oil

thanks to the raw beet juice every hour for 3 days prior to actually

doing the flush. Actually on this raw beet juice for the first time

I could feel bile flowing after eating meals. Grumbling is

happening which is something that the flushes never helped. Its the

betaine in the beet juice which can detox the liver and kidney and

gb stones. Amazing stuff! I only juice about 3 or 4 beets in the

morning and take about 1/2 a mouthfull every hour.

So this flush my body told me to stop drinking the olive oil and

grapefruit juice when I was half way through. So I only ended up

drinking about 1/2 a cup of olive oil and 1/2 a cup of grapefruit.

I passed probably 60 stones some an inch in size.

Probably going to start the chanca peidra and R7 soon. Has anyone

ever heard of Triphala? Its an ayervedic (sp?) herbal combo

including the Chanca Peidra.

Brad

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> > Am I reading the protocol right? I thought I read from the H

> > protocol not to drink anything including water from 2pm when we

stop

> > eating to 6 pm (1st dose of epsom salts).

> >

> > I don't want to dehydrate myself as that seems to happen quickly.

> >

> > Any imput?

> >

> > Flushing tonight

> > Brad

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Nice,

Thanks Steve for typing all that out. Sounds like great stuff. Are

you currently taking it?

I read a magazine article which talked about triphala containing

phyllanthus emblica. Is this the same as chanca peidra? I know both

are in the phyllanthus genus.

Anyways do you think i'd be better off to try the triphala or just the

chanca peidra by itself.

Thanks,

Brad

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> > > Am I reading the protocol right? I thought I read from the H

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> > > protocol not to drink anything including water from 2pm when we

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> > > I don't want to dehydrate myself as that seems to happen quickly.

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> > > Any imput?

> > >

> > > Flushing tonight

> > > Brad

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[Guest guest]

You know it does sound good. Buut I think I'm going to try the chanca

by itself first just to see how it changes things for me.

Thanks for the great info Mr Dave.

Brad

> > >

> > > Am I reading the protocol right? I thought I read from the H

>

> > > protocol not to drink anything including water from 2pm when we

> stop

> > > eating to 6 pm (1st dose of epsom salts).

> > >

> > > I don't want to dehydrate myself as that seems to happen quickly.

> > >

> > > Any imput?

> > >

> > > Flushing tonight

> > > Brad

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

So flushing doesn't work in your opinion.

Tell me why are you on a gallbladder flush forum if you don't

believe in flushing?

That's about as useful as watching paint dry, get a hobby.

And if the information on this forum helps someone out which it has in

my case, then selling hope as you put it is a VERY good thing.

Som keep selling hope people as it seems to be in short supply

especially for Mohammad.

Brad

> > > >

> > > > Am I reading the protocol right? I thought I read from the H

> >

> > > > protocol not to drink anything including water from 2pm when we

> > stop

> > > > eating to 6 pm (1st dose of epsom salts).

> > > >

> > > > I don't want to dehydrate myself as that seems to happen quickly.

> > > >

> > > > Any imput?

> > > >

> > > > Flushing tonight

> > > > Brad

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Good luck Munawar,

I've always contested for a long time that infection and heavy metals

play a role in liver and gb function. So maybe you can focus on that

to get lasting benefits.

I also believe that the damage and inflammation isn't just isolated to

the gb and liver that all organs and tissues can be affected by

infection and heavy metals. So getting to the root cause is very

important in my opinion.

Hope your procedure goes well though,

Brad

> > > >

> > > > Am I reading the protocol right? I thought I read from the H

> >

> > > > protocol not to drink anything including water from 2pm when we

> > stop

> > > > eating to 6 pm (1st dose of epsom salts).

> > > >

> > > > I don't want to dehydrate myself as that seems to happen quickly.

> > > >

> > > > Any imput?

> > > >

> > > > Flushing tonight

> > > > Brad

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

How are you going to dissolve the stones? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Munawar,

Coupled with the fact that your pain is left quadrant, and this information

that your discomfort is when your stomach is empty but feel better when you eat,

It is most likely that your discomfort is not from gallstones, whether you have

them or not. Please think long and hard before having the organ removed.

Checking for gastritis and/or ulcers may be more effective. Try this for the

pain:

Place the middle of the palm of your left hand on where it hurts the most. Put

the heal of your right hand above the crease in your groin on the right side,

thumb over your pubic bone, fingers down the inside of your right leg. If you

have damaged your right knee or right ankle at some time, use the bottom of your

left foot to " bridge " the joint (part above, part below). you are acting as a

jumper cable to drain the stuck energy down the right leg. If the pain goes

from under your left hand but is then somewhere else, follow it with the middle

of the palm of your left hand. this should alleviate your discomfort.... All

the best. -D

Re: Re: Question about flush proceedure

> > > gallstones@gro ups.com <gallstones% 40groups. com>

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> > > Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 6:35 AM

> > >

> > > Well, it is not about beliveing or not in the flushing , it is about

> > >

> > > following the instructions of your doctor who is an expert in flushing

> > >

> > > material and stuff. He said, probably this is not the right time.

> > > And i

> > >

> > > just did my upper GI series tests just this morning and they did an

> > >

> > > ultrasound again along with the tests. My problem is that my

> > > sysmptoms are

> > >

> > > totally different from gallstone attacks. I have pain always on my

> > > left

> > >

> > > upper stomach, which sometimes goes a litte down on lower stomach on

> > > the

> > >

> > > left. But my family doctor insists that it is all because of

> > > gallstones. I

> > >

> > > am really confused. I have booked an appointment with surgeon but i

> > > am NOT

> > >

> > > going to pull the plug until i am sure it is my gallstones causing

> > > me the

> > >

> > > problem. Hoping for the best.

> > >

> > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:02 PM, ontarioguy2334

> > >

> > > <ontarioguy2334>wrote:

> > >

> > > > Good luck Munawar,

> > >

> > > > I've always contested for a long time that infection and heavy

> > > metals

> > >

> > > > play a role in liver and gb function. So maybe you can focus on that

> > >

> > > > to get lasting benefits.

> > >

> > > > I also believe that the damage and inflammation isn't just

> > > isolated to

> > >

> > > > the gb and liver that all organs and tissues can be affected by

> > >

> > > > infection and heavy metals. So getting to the root cause is very

> > >

> > > > important in my opinion.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Hope your procedure goes well though,

> > >

> > > > Brad

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > Am I reading the protocol right? I thought I read from the H

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > protocol not to drink anything including water from 2pm

> > > when we

> > >

> > > > > > stop

> > >

> > > > > > > > eating to 6 pm (1st dose of epsom salts).

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > I don't want to dehydrate myself as that seems to happen

> > > quickly.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > Any imput?

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > Flushing tonight

> > >

> > > > > > > > Brad

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dave, I get some mild pain on my left side. I am not sure what is

causing this. But I can relieve the pain by massaging in a circular

motion my lower right abdominal area.

I think someone on this forum had prescribed this remedy, but it has

been awhile. If I remember correctly, the idea had something to do

with the first part of the large intestine (lower right) that when

massaged somehow provides relief to the " spleenic flexure " (upper

left).

At the time, I was thinking that the problem may have been due to my

candida problem. But again, this is all a little vague.

Does any of this make sense? Thanks.

>

> Munawar,

>

> Coupled with the fact that your pain is left quadrant, and

this information that your discomfort is when your stomach is empty

but feel better when you eat, It is most likely that your discomfort

is not from gallstones, whether you have them or not. Please think

long and hard before having the organ removed. Checking for

gastritis and/or ulcers may be more effective. Try this for the pain:

>

> Place the middle of the palm of your left hand on where it hurts

the most. Put the heal of your right hand above the crease in your

groin on the right side, thumb over your pubic bone, fingers down the

inside of your right leg. If you have damaged your right knee or

right ankle at some time, use the bottom of your left foot

to " bridge " the joint (part above, part below). you are acting as a

jumper cable to drain the stuck energy down the right leg. If the

pain goes from under your left hand but is then somewhere else,

follow it with the middle of the palm of your left hand. this should

alleviate your discomfort.... All the best. -D