Re: Saponification

[Guest guest]

Shelagh,

Saponification is the chemical change when the lye and oils or tallow are

combined, thus making soap. The following link has a sap chart.

http://www.rainbowmeadow.com/soapsap.html

Sharon

> Please excuse a newbie for asking but what's saponification and what's a

sap chart?

>

> Shelagh

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Simply put, saponification is the chemical process that occurs when you bring

lye, water and oils together; the result of the process is soap. It takes

different amounts of lye to saponify different oils. You can not make soap

without using lye.

I have a chart with oils and a formula to calculate the amount of lye needed to

saponify each oil. Unfortunately, Mango Butter is not listed on the chart I

have.

Sydney

Saponification

Please excuse a newbie for asking but what's saponification and what's a sap

chart?

Shelagh

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT TIP! My kids do the exact same thing, no matter

how much I 'preach' to them :~) Baking soda is my friend from now on!

herbladie

This may only indirectly be related to gallstones... I have a lot of very

expensive pots and pans. I do all of the cooking (which I love) and the vast

majority

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Loved reading that rant Dave and surely you're liver loved expelling the

emotion! Thank you, I am passing this tip on to all the 'maids' in my address

book.

Grace flows, automn

Saponification

This may only indirectly be related to gallstones... I have a lot of very

expensive pots and pans. I do all of the cooking (which I love) and the vast

majority of clean up and maintainance (not so fond) of the kitchen. I also,

pardon me, have a household full of girls (no gender slurs intended, just simple

fact) that can't seem to cook anything on any lower heat than " high " . When you

high heat an oil you change the molecular structure which is not healthy on

several accounts. We have discussed in the past how harmfull this is to the fats

and oils that you ingest and their relationship to the formation of gallstones.

There is another factor that just occurred to me a few minutes ago. When one of

the girls cooks herself an egg, and on that proverbial " high " , the oils in the

pan change molecular structure and almost anodize onto my Allclad pans. Now no

one else has the patience to put the elbow grease in to clean my pan properly so

it gets left until I put 10 to 15 minutes of hard elbow grease with the green

Scotchbrite to get it clean. The bile rises to the level of my eyes and my liver

swells to gargantuan proportions, but I have become apathetic and clean it

anyhow 'cuz I am in love with my pans and they must be appealing to my eyes when

I cook.

A few days back a client and I were talking about slovenly family issues when

she informed me that no matter how bad and gnarly a pan is if you boil some

baking soda and water for a little bit everything always comes off.

So here I am this afternoon, bussing the tables, bedrooms, living room, etc.

and the piles of dishes left for the maid when there, buried underneath is one

of my prized pans with that baked on look... I started with my normal routine

but the Scotchbrite couldn't touch it. The heavens parted, the Divine intervened

to remind my of the discussion with my client. Now mind you, when I originally

heard this, I did not believe it for several reasons. First it was too simple

and too easy, and second, I have never heard this before ( I am one of those who

thinks he knows everything). But I am desperate; at the point of murder or

tears, so with nothing to lose, I boil some water with baking soda in the pan

for a few minutes. When I go to scrub until the far end of my arm is 3 inches

from my shoulder, everything just wiped away... effortlessly. How can this be?!

And then I remembered Dale (I think) saying that saponification requires oil, an

alkali (baking soda, though you can bet your gallbladder I am going to try epsom

salts tomorrow), and a lot of heat (I didn't boil on " high " , but there was still

plenty). So now we can take that burnt on oil, and saponify it into soap (which

is water " soluable " ), and save our children from murder and ourselves from hari

kari (sp?). Hope this helps. Thanks for listening. Send me a bill for the

session.

Always, in all ways,-Dave

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