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Free and Easy Wanderer is a female hormonal/menstrual tonic. The female cycle

is mainly a blood movement/liver congestion issue. This is why it would work

for liver detox as well. This formula is spectacular at times for teen age

girls with menstrual issues. -D

Free and Easy Wanderer

Ellen,

I am sorry to hear how you have been feeling. It reminds me of how I

used to be, a feeling like drowning. Like teatering on a precipice,

not wanting to fall over the edge but hardly a hope for staying on

top. Its is a terrifying situation to find oneself.

I am not the LLMD you are seeking but I think I can get you pointed

in the right direction.

For now, don't bother trying to kill off bacteria with antibiotics,

rife, or any other method. Its sounds pretty clear you are unable to

eliminate the wave of toxins that are produced and it will only

further weaken you, resulting in an even better environment within

your body for bacteria to thrive.

Focus on Detoxing. As you know there are a million ways to detox.

Some are better and some are worse. What I recommend is a coffee

enema. I don't care if the idea of putting coffee in your back side

freaks you out. The way I see it, you don't have many other options.

Coffee enemas are a great way of kick starting your liver. You will

feel much better then you do now in about 15 minutes!

I urge you to do coffee enemas regularly for a while. Every day

until you get your toxic load down, and then wean off of them from

there.

You are probably wondering why you shouldn't be attacking the

bacteria at this point. If you work on opening up your channels of

elimination, specifically Liver, Kidneys, and colon, your body will

be much cleaner and the bacteria will start to die by itself. It

simply cannot survive in a body that is free of toxins. Remember

that the neurotoxins are immunosuppressive. If you keep your levels

of toxins low then your immune system will jump back in the fight.

Also, begin using the supplement " Free and Easy Wanderer " . It is the

BEST liver herbal formula i've found. It is POWERFUL! Start out

slow. A couple small pills a day. You will notice the effects right

away. This supplement will help you detox and repair your liver, but

will also kill off the infection in your liver causing herxes. Once

you have used this supplement for a while your liver will be ready to

handle the more aggressive lyme killing treatments.

For your adrenals I urge you to try the formula " Golden Book " . It is

great for the adrenals. This herb works much the same way as the

liver herbs, begin very slowly, it will cause a herx but will

completely restore your adrenals and Kidneys.

As I have mentioned before, I returned from the brink, similar to the

situation you find yourself in, and I did it by using these two

herbal formulas. They very well saved my life. I think in the early

phases of Lyme treatment there is too much of an emphasis

on " killing " the infection. We should not underestimate the power of

our own immune system. All we need to do is support our bodies

process of eliminating the toxins, it knows how to do the rest. Once

you have stabilized your health then it is a good idea to start

attacking the infection with anitbiotics and rife, but until then

just support Ellens body. All you need to do is give it the tools it

needs for the job, and keep hauling out the trash.

I beg you to try those two herbal formulas for three months. Like I

said they will make you herx, but you will intuitively know you are

going down the right path.

Here are links for the supplements I suggested

http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/> rthchineseherbs. com/xiao-

yao-wan-free- easy-

wanderer-p-32. html

http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/> rthchineseherbs. com/jin-kui-

shen-qi-wan- teapills- p-

35.html

I wish you the very best Ellen, I KNOW you will get better.

Thane in MN

http://www.agelessherbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html<http://www.agelesshe\

rbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html>

Posted by: " thane17 " thane17@...<mailto:thane17%40> thane17

Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:13 am (PST)

I used to herx really hard from nearly anything. Five minutes in a

Sauna would cause me to herx so hard I could hardly walk out of there

and would be sick for a week. Glyconutrients were out of the question

and a couple squirts of silver would tempt me to leap off a bridge.

Then I focused on improving my Liver and kidney function with chinese

herbs and now I seem to handle the herxes much better. I have a

feeling that most of us lymies are not prioritizing our

detoxification organs enough. I think early on detoxification should

be almost more important than the actually antibacterial methods, and

then as we get better the emphasis should be more on finding a way to

kill the last bugs still hanging around.

" Free and Easy Wanderer " is great for liver detoxification. I

recomend it for everyone. Its like several coffee enemas every day

but also has the materials to heal the liver as well. I made a little

video about it at http://www.youtube.<http://www.youtube./> com/watch?

v=72b3FWW2aII

Sorry if i've posted this link already, can't remember. Its just been

such a helpful herb for me that I want the world to know about it. It

offers a way to herx the liver while leaving most of the rest of the

body alone. I don't know of any other remedy that can offer that.

Long before I learned I had lyme I discovered that I was really

toxic. I had no idea what was causing it but I felt better after

doing cleanses like liver flush and enemas and so I stuck with it. I

was very sick and had nearly lost my ability to take care of myself

at all. My mind was nearly gone. I improved 50% without a single

antibiotic therapy but only using detoxification and nutritional

support.

My theory is, if we can find supportive therapies that cause a herx,

then we should focus on those and run with them as long as we can

before hitting the rife and other therapies. Because treating lyme

is so hard on our bodies I think our best approach might be to focus

entirely on preparing our bodies for the hard treatment ahead in

every way possible. Then when we have cleared our liver,

strengthened our Kidneys, got our bowels moving as they should, and

corrected any nutritional deficiencies, then and only then should we

proceed to killing off bacteria. I do realize there are exceptions to

this though.

Since I didn't know what was wrong with me I continued a long time

with the detoxification and I suspect that now that I'm treating

Lyme, I will be able to handle the herxes much better than I would

have otherwise and possibly accelerate my healing. I guess we will

see though, the jury is still out. I just wonder if many people

suffering with Lyme disease enter their treatment with decent

detoxification abilities but they soon become clogged and bogged down

with toxins and halfway through their treatment they find themselves

in a stalemate with the bacteria. They're still killing the bacteria

but their bodies have become so weak that it has become a good

environment for the bacteria to live.

I apologize if my post is a bit disorganized. I'm in a pretty

intense battle with my lyme brain.

Thane MN

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Dave do you think this formula is good for 'dudes' as well? lol

I do have a sensation of blood stagnancy around my liver area and a definite

issue with liver congestion. Can't say I have any of the other issues you

mentioned though :D

Brad

--- In gallstones , " Dave Shelden " <wholehealthawareness@...>

wrote:

>

> Free and Easy Wanderer is a female hormonal/menstrual tonic. The female cycle

is mainly a blood movement/liver congestion issue. This is why it would work

for liver detox as well. This formula is spectacular at times for teen age

girls with menstrual issues. -D

> Free and Easy Wanderer

>

>

>

> Ellen,

> I am sorry to hear how you have been feeling. It reminds me of how I

> used to be, a feeling like drowning. Like teatering on a precipice,

> not wanting to fall over the edge but hardly a hope for staying on

> top. Its is a terrifying situation to find oneself.

>

> I am not the LLMD you are seeking but I think I can get you pointed

> in the right direction.

>

> For now, don't bother trying to kill off bacteria with antibiotics,

> rife, or any other method. Its sounds pretty clear you are unable to

> eliminate the wave of toxins that are produced and it will only

> further weaken you, resulting in an even better environment within

> your body for bacteria to thrive.

>

> Focus on Detoxing. As you know there are a million ways to detox.

> Some are better and some are worse. What I recommend is a coffee

> enema. I don't care if the idea of putting coffee in your back side

> freaks you out. The way I see it, you don't have many other options.

> Coffee enemas are a great way of kick starting your liver. You will

> feel much better then you do now in about 15 minutes!

>

> I urge you to do coffee enemas regularly for a while. Every day

> until you get your toxic load down, and then wean off of them from

> there.

>

> You are probably wondering why you shouldn't be attacking the

> bacteria at this point. If you work on opening up your channels of

> elimination, specifically Liver, Kidneys, and colon, your body will

> be much cleaner and the bacteria will start to die by itself. It

> simply cannot survive in a body that is free of toxins. Remember

> that the neurotoxins are immunosuppressive. If you keep your levels

> of toxins low then your immune system will jump back in the fight.

>

> Also, begin using the supplement " Free and Easy Wanderer " . It is the

> BEST liver herbal formula i've found. It is POWERFUL! Start out

> slow. A couple small pills a day. You will notice the effects right

> away. This supplement will help you detox and repair your liver, but

> will also kill off the infection in your liver causing herxes. Once

> you have used this supplement for a while your liver will be ready to

> handle the more aggressive lyme killing treatments.

>

> For your adrenals I urge you to try the formula " Golden Book " . It is

> great for the adrenals. This herb works much the same way as the

> liver herbs, begin very slowly, it will cause a herx but will

> completely restore your adrenals and Kidneys.

>

> As I have mentioned before, I returned from the brink, similar to the

> situation you find yourself in, and I did it by using these two

> herbal formulas. They very well saved my life. I think in the early

> phases of Lyme treatment there is too much of an emphasis

> on " killing " the infection. We should not underestimate the power of

> our own immune system. All we need to do is support our bodies

> process of eliminating the toxins, it knows how to do the rest. Once

> you have stabilized your health then it is a good idea to start

> attacking the infection with anitbiotics and rife, but until then

> just support Ellens body. All you need to do is give it the tools it

> needs for the job, and keep hauling out the trash.

> I beg you to try those two herbal formulas for three months. Like I

> said they will make you herx, but you will intuitively know you are

> going down the right path.

>

> Here are links for the supplements I suggested

>

> http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/> rthchineseherbs. com/xiao-

yao-wan-free- easy-

> wanderer-p-32. html

>

> http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/> rthchineseherbs. com/jin-kui-

shen-qi-wan- teapills- p-

> 35.html

>

> I wish you the very best Ellen, I KNOW you will get better.

>

> Thane in MN

>

>

http://www.agelessherbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html<http://www.agelesshe\

rbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html>

>

> Posted by: " thane17 " thane17@...<mailto:thane17%40> thane17

>

> Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:13 am (PST)

>

> I used to herx really hard from nearly anything. Five minutes in a

> Sauna would cause me to herx so hard I could hardly walk out of there

> and would be sick for a week. Glyconutrients were out of the question

> and a couple squirts of silver would tempt me to leap off a bridge.

> Then I focused on improving my Liver and kidney function with chinese

> herbs and now I seem to handle the herxes much better. I have a

> feeling that most of us lymies are not prioritizing our

> detoxification organs enough. I think early on detoxification should

> be almost more important than the actually antibacterial methods, and

> then as we get better the emphasis should be more on finding a way to

> kill the last bugs still hanging around.

>

> " Free and Easy Wanderer " is great for liver detoxification. I

> recomend it for everyone. Its like several coffee enemas every day

> but also has the materials to heal the liver as well. I made a little

> video about it at http://www.youtube.<http://www.youtube./> com/watch?

v=72b3FWW2aII

> Sorry if i've posted this link already, can't remember. Its just been

> such a helpful herb for me that I want the world to know about it. It

> offers a way to herx the liver while leaving most of the rest of the

> body alone. I don't know of any other remedy that can offer that.

>

> Long before I learned I had lyme I discovered that I was really

> toxic. I had no idea what was causing it but I felt better after

> doing cleanses like liver flush and enemas and so I stuck with it. I

> was very sick and had nearly lost my ability to take care of myself

> at all. My mind was nearly gone. I improved 50% without a single

> antibiotic therapy but only using detoxification and nutritional

> support.

>

> My theory is, if we can find supportive therapies that cause a herx,

> then we should focus on those and run with them as long as we can

> before hitting the rife and other therapies. Because treating lyme

> is so hard on our bodies I think our best approach might be to focus

> entirely on preparing our bodies for the hard treatment ahead in

> every way possible. Then when we have cleared our liver,

> strengthened our Kidneys, got our bowels moving as they should, and

> corrected any nutritional deficiencies, then and only then should we

> proceed to killing off bacteria. I do realize there are exceptions to

> this though.

>

> Since I didn't know what was wrong with me I continued a long time

> with the detoxification and I suspect that now that I'm treating

> Lyme, I will be able to handle the herxes much better than I would

> have otherwise and possibly accelerate my healing. I guess we will

> see though, the jury is still out. I just wonder if many people

> suffering with Lyme disease enter their treatment with decent

> detoxification abilities but they soon become clogged and bogged down

> with toxins and halfway through their treatment they find themselves

> in a stalemate with the bacteria. They're still killing the bacteria

> but their bodies have become so weak that it has become a good

> environment for the bacteria to live.

>

> I apologize if my post is a bit disorganized. I'm in a pretty

> intense battle with my lyme brain.

> Thane MN

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Would this formula be good for someone with Hepatitis C? Any other

recommendations? Dave?

Thanks.

.

--- In gallstones , " Dave Shelden " <wholehealthawareness@...>

wrote:

>

> Free and Easy Wanderer is a female hormonal/menstrual tonic. The female cycle

is mainly a blood movement/liver congestion issue. This is why it would work

for liver detox as well. This formula is spectacular at times for teen age

girls with menstrual issues. -D

> Free and Easy Wanderer

>

>

>

> Ellen,

> I am sorry to hear how you have been feeling. It reminds me of how I

> used to be, a feeling like drowning. Like teatering on a precipice,

> not wanting to fall over the edge but hardly a hope for staying on

> top. Its is a terrifying situation to find oneself.

>

> I am not the LLMD you are seeking but I think I can get you pointed

> in the right direction.

>

> For now, don't bother trying to kill off bacteria with antibiotics,

> rife, or any other method. Its sounds pretty clear you are unable to

> eliminate the wave of toxins that are produced and it will only

> further weaken you, resulting in an even better environment within

> your body for bacteria to thrive.

>

> Focus on Detoxing. As you know there are a million ways to detox.

> Some are better and some are worse. What I recommend is a coffee

> enema. I don't care if the idea of putting coffee in your back side

> freaks you out. The way I see it, you don't have many other options.

> Coffee enemas are a great way of kick starting your liver. You will

> feel much better then you do now in about 15 minutes!

>

> I urge you to do coffee enemas regularly for a while. Every day

> until you get your toxic load down, and then wean off of them from

> there.

>

> You are probably wondering why you shouldn't be attacking the

> bacteria at this point. If you work on opening up your channels of

> elimination, specifically Liver, Kidneys, and colon, your body will

> be much cleaner and the bacteria will start to die by itself. It

> simply cannot survive in a body that is free of toxins. Remember

> that the neurotoxins are immunosuppressive. If you keep your levels

> of toxins low then your immune system will jump back in the fight.

>

> Also, begin using the supplement " Free and Easy Wanderer " . It is the

> BEST liver herbal formula i've found. It is POWERFUL! Start out

> slow. A couple small pills a day. You will notice the effects right

> away. This supplement will help you detox and repair your liver, but

> will also kill off the infection in your liver causing herxes. Once

> you have used this supplement for a while your liver will be ready to

> handle the more aggressive lyme killing treatments.

>

> For your adrenals I urge you to try the formula " Golden Book " . It is

> great for the adrenals. This herb works much the same way as the

> liver herbs, begin very slowly, it will cause a herx but will

> completely restore your adrenals and Kidneys.

>

> As I have mentioned before, I returned from the brink, similar to the

> situation you find yourself in, and I did it by using these two

> herbal formulas. They very well saved my life. I think in the early

> phases of Lyme treatment there is too much of an emphasis

> on " killing " the infection. We should not underestimate the power of

> our own immune system. All we need to do is support our bodies

> process of eliminating the toxins, it knows how to do the rest. Once

> you have stabilized your health then it is a good idea to start

> attacking the infection with anitbiotics and rife, but until then

> just support Ellens body. All you need to do is give it the tools it

> needs for the job, and keep hauling out the trash.

> I beg you to try those two herbal formulas for three months. Like I

> said they will make you herx, but you will intuitively know you are

> going down the right path.

>

> Here are links for the supplements I suggested

>

> http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/> rthchineseherbs. com/xiao-

yao-wan-free- easy-

> wanderer-p-32. html

>

> http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/> rthchineseherbs. com/jin-kui-

shen-qi-wan- teapills- p-

> 35.html

>

> I wish you the very best Ellen, I KNOW you will get better.

>

> Thane in MN

>

>

http://www.agelessherbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html<http://www.agelesshe\

rbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html>

>

> Posted by: " thane17 " thane17@...<mailto:thane17%40> thane17

>

> Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:13 am (PST)

>

> I used to herx really hard from nearly anything. Five minutes in a

> Sauna would cause me to herx so hard I could hardly walk out of there

> and would be sick for a week. Glyconutrients were out of the question

> and a couple squirts of silver would tempt me to leap off a bridge.

> Then I focused on improving my Liver and kidney function with chinese

> herbs and now I seem to handle the herxes much better. I have a

> feeling that most of us lymies are not prioritizing our

> detoxification organs enough. I think early on detoxification should

> be almost more important than the actually antibacterial methods, and

> then as we get better the emphasis should be more on finding a way to

> kill the last bugs still hanging around.

>

> " Free and Easy Wanderer " is great for liver detoxification. I

> recomend it for everyone. Its like several coffee enemas every day

> but also has the materials to heal the liver as well. I made a little

> video about it at http://www.youtube.<http://www.youtube./> com/watch?

v=72b3FWW2aII

> Sorry if i've posted this link already, can't remember. Its just been

> such a helpful herb for me that I want the world to know about it. It

> offers a way to herx the liver while leaving most of the rest of the

> body alone. I don't know of any other remedy that can offer that.

>

> Long before I learned I had lyme I discovered that I was really

> toxic. I had no idea what was causing it but I felt better after

> doing cleanses like liver flush and enemas and so I stuck with it. I

> was very sick and had nearly lost my ability to take care of myself

> at all. My mind was nearly gone. I improved 50% without a single

> antibiotic therapy but only using detoxification and nutritional

> support.

>

> My theory is, if we can find supportive therapies that cause a herx,

> then we should focus on those and run with them as long as we can

> before hitting the rife and other therapies. Because treating lyme

> is so hard on our bodies I think our best approach might be to focus

> entirely on preparing our bodies for the hard treatment ahead in

> every way possible. Then when we have cleared our liver,

> strengthened our Kidneys, got our bowels moving as they should, and

> corrected any nutritional deficiencies, then and only then should we

> proceed to killing off bacteria. I do realize there are exceptions to

> this though.

>

> Since I didn't know what was wrong with me I continued a long time

> with the detoxification and I suspect that now that I'm treating

> Lyme, I will be able to handle the herxes much better than I would

> have otherwise and possibly accelerate my healing. I guess we will

> see though, the jury is still out. I just wonder if many people

> suffering with Lyme disease enter their treatment with decent

> detoxification abilities but they soon become clogged and bogged down

> with toxins and halfway through their treatment they find themselves

> in a stalemate with the bacteria. They're still killing the bacteria

> but their bodies have become so weak that it has become a good

> environment for the bacteria to live.

>

> I apologize if my post is a bit disorganized. I'm in a pretty

> intense battle with my lyme brain.

> Thane MN

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hey Mr. Dave, thanks for the advice. I will try it out and see how things go.

I muscle test for taking 2 pills 2x a day every 2nd day to start. I'll report

back my symptomatic changes if I get good results.

Dave there is a gentleman who contacted me for help with hep C. Would you mind

if I gave him your email address?

Brad

> >

> > Free and Easy Wanderer is a female hormonal/menstrual tonic. The female

cycle is mainly a blood movement/liver congestion issue. This is why it would

work for liver detox as well. This formula is spectacular at times for teen age

girls with menstrual issues. -D

> > Free and Easy Wanderer

> >

> >

> >

> > Ellen,

> > I am sorry to hear how you have been feeling. It reminds me of how I

> > used to be, a feeling like drowning. Like teatering on a precipice,

> > not wanting to fall over the edge but hardly a hope for staying on

> > top. Its is a terrifying situation to find oneself.

> >

> > I am not the LLMD you are seeking but I think I can get you pointed

> > in the right direction.

> >

> > For now, don't bother trying to kill off bacteria with antibiotics,

> > rife, or any other method. Its sounds pretty clear you are unable to

> > eliminate the wave of toxins that are produced and it will only

> > further weaken you, resulting in an even better environment within

> > your body for bacteria to thrive.

> >

> > Focus on Detoxing. As you know there are a million ways to detox.

> > Some are better and some are worse. What I recommend is a coffee

> > enema. I don't care if the idea of putting coffee in your back side

> > freaks you out. The way I see it, you don't have many other options.

> > Coffee enemas are a great way of kick starting your liver. You will

> > feel much better then you do now in about 15 minutes!

> >

> > I urge you to do coffee enemas regularly for a while. Every day

> > until you get your toxic load down, and then wean off of them from

> > there.

> >

> > You are probably wondering why you shouldn't be attacking the

> > bacteria at this point. If you work on opening up your channels of

> > elimination, specifically Liver, Kidneys, and colon, your body will

> > be much cleaner and the bacteria will start to die by itself. It

> > simply cannot survive in a body that is free of toxins. Remember

> > that the neurotoxins are immunosuppressive. If you keep your levels

> > of toxins low then your immune system will jump back in the fight.

> >

> > Also, begin using the supplement " Free and Easy Wanderer " . It is the

> > BEST liver herbal formula i've found. It is POWERFUL! Start out

> > slow. A couple small pills a day. You will notice the effects right

> > away. This supplement will help you detox and repair your liver, but

> > will also kill off the infection in your liver causing herxes. Once

> > you have used this supplement for a while your liver will be ready to

> > handle the more aggressive lyme killing treatments.

> >

> > For your adrenals I urge you to try the formula " Golden Book " . It is

> > great for the adrenals. This herb works much the same way as the

> > liver herbs, begin very slowly, it will cause a herx but will

> > completely restore your adrenals and Kidneys.

> >

> > As I have mentioned before, I returned from the brink, similar to the

> > situation you find yourself in, and I did it by using these two

> > herbal formulas. They very well saved my life. I think in the early

> > phases of Lyme treatment there is too much of an emphasis

> > on " killing " the infection. We should not underestimate the power of

> > our own immune system. All we need to do is support our bodies

> > process of eliminating the toxins, it knows how to do the rest. Once

> > you have stabilized your health then it is a good idea to start

> > attacking the infection with anitbiotics and rife, but until then

> > just support Ellens body. All you need to do is give it the tools it

> > needs for the job, and keep hauling out the trash.

> > I beg you to try those two herbal formulas for three months. Like I

> > said they will make you herx, but you will intuitively know you are

> > going down the right path.

> >

> > Here are links for the supplements I suggested

> >

> >

http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/><http://www.heavenea/<http://www.heaven\

ea/>> rthchineseherbs. com/xiao- yao-wan-free- easy-

> > wanderer-p-32. html

> >

> >

http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/><http://www.heavenea/<http://www.heaven\

ea/>> rthchineseherbs. com/jin-kui- shen-qi-wan- teapills- p-

> > 35.html

> >

> > I wish you the very best Ellen, I KNOW you will get better.

> >

> > Thane in MN

> >

> >

http://www.agelessherbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html<http://www.agelesshe\

rbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html><http://www.agelessherbs.com/FreeandEasy\

WandererFormula.html<http://www.agelessherbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html\

>>

> >

> > Posted by: " thane17 " thane17@<mailto:thane17%40> thane17

> >

> > Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:13 am (PST)

> >

> > I used to herx really hard from nearly anything. Five minutes in a

> > Sauna would cause me to herx so hard I could hardly walk out of there

> > and would be sick for a week. Glyconutrients were out of the question

> > and a couple squirts of silver would tempt me to leap off a bridge.

> > Then I focused on improving my Liver and kidney function with chinese

> > herbs and now I seem to handle the herxes much better. I have a

> > feeling that most of us lymies are not prioritizing our

> > detoxification organs enough. I think early on detoxification should

> > be almost more important than the actually antibacterial methods, and

> > then as we get better the emphasis should be more on finding a way to

> > kill the last bugs still hanging around.

> >

> > " Free and Easy Wanderer " is great for liver detoxification. I

> > recomend it for everyone. Its like several coffee enemas every day

> > but also has the materials to heal the liver as well. I made a little

> > video about it at

http://www.youtube.<http://www.youtube./><http://www.youtube./<http://www.youtub\

e./>> com/watch? v=72b3FWW2aII

> > Sorry if i've posted this link already, can't remember. Its just been

> > such a helpful herb for me that I want the world to know about it. It

> > offers a way to herx the liver while leaving most of the rest of the

> > body alone. I don't know of any other remedy that can offer that.

> >

> > Long before I learned I had lyme I discovered that I was really

> > toxic. I had no idea what was causing it but I felt better after

> > doing cleanses like liver flush and enemas and so I stuck with it. I

> > was very sick and had nearly lost my ability to take care of myself

> > at all. My mind was nearly gone. I improved 50% without a single

> > antibiotic therapy but only using detoxification and nutritional

> > support.

> >

> > My theory is, if we can find supportive therapies that cause a herx,

> > then we should focus on those and run with them as long as we can

> > before hitting the rife and other therapies. Because treating lyme

> > is so hard on our bodies I think our best approach might be to focus

> > entirely on preparing our bodies for the hard treatment ahead in

> > every way possible. Then when we have cleared our liver,

> > strengthened our Kidneys, got our bowels moving as they should, and

> > corrected any nutritional deficiencies, then and only then should we

> > proceed to killing off bacteria. I do realize there are exceptions to

> > this though.

> >

> > Since I didn't know what was wrong with me I continued a long time

> > with the detoxification and I suspect that now that I'm treating

> > Lyme, I will be able to handle the herxes much better than I would

> > have otherwise and possibly accelerate my healing. I guess we will

> > see though, the jury is still out. I just wonder if many people

> > suffering with Lyme disease enter their treatment with decent

> > detoxification abilities but they soon become clogged and bogged down

> > with toxins and halfway through their treatment they find themselves

> > in a stalemate with the bacteria. They're still killing the bacteria

> > but their bodies have become so weak that it has become a good

> > environment for the bacteria to live.

> >

> > I apologize if my post is a bit disorganized. I'm in a pretty

> > intense battle with my lyme brain.

> > Thane MN

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Your such a good guy Dave. Thanks for taking the time to help out. I'll send

this to him asking permission to get you two in contact with each other. I

haven't heard back from him in a while, I hope he's doing ok still...

Rocks from Cleveland eh? lol If you get a good windup you might hit London

Ontario. Thats where I went to university. :D

There was this funny video on youtube. I just had to post it since you

mentioned Cleveland!

Happy Holidays and thanks again Dave!

Brad

> > >

> > > Free and Easy Wanderer is a female hormonal/menstrual tonic. The female

cycle is mainly a blood movement/liver congestion issue. This is why it would

work for liver detox as well. This formula is spectacular at times for teen age

girls with menstrual issues. -D

> > > Free and Easy Wanderer

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ellen,

> > > I am sorry to hear how you have been feeling. It reminds me of how I

> > > used to be, a feeling like drowning. Like teatering on a precipice,

> > > not wanting to fall over the edge but hardly a hope for staying on

> > > top. Its is a terrifying situation to find oneself.

> > >

> > > I am not the LLMD you are seeking but I think I can get you pointed

> > > in the right direction.

> > >

> > > For now, don't bother trying to kill off bacteria with antibiotics,

> > > rife, or any other method. Its sounds pretty clear you are unable to

> > > eliminate the wave of toxins that are produced and it will only

> > > further weaken you, resulting in an even better environment within

> > > your body for bacteria to thrive.

> > >

> > > Focus on Detoxing. As you know there are a million ways to detox.

> > > Some are better and some are worse. What I recommend is a coffee

> > > enema. I don't care if the idea of putting coffee in your back side

> > > freaks you out. The way I see it, you don't have many other options.

> > > Coffee enemas are a great way of kick starting your liver. You will

> > > feel much better then you do now in about 15 minutes!

> > >

> > > I urge you to do coffee enemas regularly for a while. Every day

> > > until you get your toxic load down, and then wean off of them from

> > > there.

> > >

> > > You are probably wondering why you shouldn't be attacking the

> > > bacteria at this point. If you work on opening up your channels of

> > > elimination, specifically Liver, Kidneys, and colon, your body will

> > > be much cleaner and the bacteria will start to die by itself. It

> > > simply cannot survive in a body that is free of toxins. Remember

> > > that the neurotoxins are immunosuppressive. If you keep your levels

> > > of toxins low then your immune system will jump back in the fight.

> > >

> > > Also, begin using the supplement " Free and Easy Wanderer " . It is the

> > > BEST liver herbal formula i've found. It is POWERFUL! Start out

> > > slow. A couple small pills a day. You will notice the effects right

> > > away. This supplement will help you detox and repair your liver, but

> > > will also kill off the infection in your liver causing herxes. Once

> > > you have used this supplement for a while your liver will be ready to

> > > handle the more aggressive lyme killing treatments.

> > >

> > > For your adrenals I urge you to try the formula " Golden Book " . It is

> > > great for the adrenals. This herb works much the same way as the

> > > liver herbs, begin very slowly, it will cause a herx but will

> > > completely restore your adrenals and Kidneys.

> > >

> > > As I have mentioned before, I returned from the brink, similar to the

> > > situation you find yourself in, and I did it by using these two

> > > herbal formulas. They very well saved my life. I think in the early

> > > phases of Lyme treatment there is too much of an emphasis

> > > on " killing " the infection. We should not underestimate the power of

> > > our own immune system. All we need to do is support our bodies

> > > process of eliminating the toxins, it knows how to do the rest. Once

> > > you have stabilized your health then it is a good idea to start

> > > attacking the infection with anitbiotics and rife, but until then

> > > just support Ellens body. All you need to do is give it the tools it

> > > needs for the job, and keep hauling out the trash.

> > > I beg you to try those two herbal formulas for three months. Like I

> > > said they will make you herx, but you will intuitively know you are

> > > going down the right path.

> > >

> > > Here are links for the supplements I suggested

> > >

> > >

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..heavenea/>>> rthchineseherbs. com/xiao- yao-wan-free- easy-

> > > wanderer-p-32. html

> > >

> > >

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..heavenea/>>> rthchineseherbs. com/jin-kui- shen-qi-wan- teapills- p-

> > > 35.html

> > >

> > > I wish you the very best Ellen, I KNOW you will get better.

> > >

> > > Thane in MN

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > > Posted by: " thane17 " thane17@<mailto:thane17%40> thane17

> > >

> > > Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:13 am (PST)

> > >

> > > I used to herx really hard from nearly anything. Five minutes in a

> > > Sauna would cause me to herx so hard I could hardly walk out of there

> > > and would be sick for a week. Glyconutrients were out of the question

> > > and a couple squirts of silver would tempt me to leap off a bridge.

> > > Then I focused on improving my Liver and kidney function with chinese

> > > herbs and now I seem to handle the herxes much better. I have a

> > > feeling that most of us lymies are not prioritizing our

> > > detoxification organs enough. I think early on detoxification should

> > > be almost more important than the actually antibacterial methods, and

> > > then as we get better the emphasis should be more on finding a way to

> > > kill the last bugs still hanging around.

> > >

> > > " Free and Easy Wanderer " is great for liver detoxification. I

> > > recomend it for everyone. Its like several coffee enemas every day

> > > but also has the materials to heal the liver as well. I made a little

> > > video about it at

http://www.youtube.<http://www.youtube./><http://www.youtube./<http://www.youtub\

e./>><http://www.youtube./<http://www.youtube./><http://www.youtube./<http://www\

..youtube./>>> com/watch? v=72b3FWW2aII

> > > Sorry if i've posted this link already, can't remember. Its just been

> > > such a helpful herb for me that I want the world to know about it. It

> > > offers a way to herx the liver while leaving most of the rest of the

> > > body alone. I don't know of any other remedy that can offer that.

> > >

> > > Long before I learned I had lyme I discovered that I was really

> > > toxic. I had no idea what was causing it but I felt better after

> > > doing cleanses like liver flush and enemas and so I stuck with it. I

> > > was very sick and had nearly lost my ability to take care of myself

> > > at all. My mind was nearly gone. I improved 50% without a single

> > > antibiotic therapy but only using detoxification and nutritional

> > > support.

> > >

> > > My theory is, if we can find supportive therapies that cause a herx,

> > > then we should focus on those and run with them as long as we can

> > > before hitting the rife and other therapies. Because treating lyme

> > > is so hard on our bodies I think our best approach might be to focus

> > > entirely on preparing our bodies for the hard treatment ahead in

> > > every way possible. Then when we have cleared our liver,

> > > strengthened our Kidneys, got our bowels moving as they should, and

> > > corrected any nutritional deficiencies, then and only then should we

> > > proceed to killing off bacteria. I do realize there are exceptions to

> > > this though.

> > >

> > > Since I didn't know what was wrong with me I continued a long time

> > > with the detoxification and I suspect that now that I'm treating

> > > Lyme, I will be able to handle the herxes much better than I would

> > > have otherwise and possibly accelerate my healing. I guess we will

> > > see though, the jury is still out. I just wonder if many people

> > > suffering with Lyme disease enter their treatment with decent

> > > detoxification abilities but they soon become clogged and bogged down

> > > with toxins and halfway through their treatment they find themselves

> > > in a stalemate with the bacteria. They're still killing the bacteria

> > > but their bodies have become so weak that it has become a good

> > > environment for the bacteria to live.

> > >

> > > I apologize if my post is a bit disorganized. I'm in a pretty

> > > intense battle with my lyme brain.

> > > Thane MN

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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" Come and look at both of our buildings " HAH :D

> > > >

> > > > Free and Easy Wanderer is a female hormonal/menstrual tonic. The

female cycle is mainly a blood movement/liver congestion issue. This is why it

would work for liver detox as well. This formula is spectacular at times for

teen age girls with menstrual issues. -D

> > > > Free and Easy Wanderer

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ellen,

> > > > I am sorry to hear how you have been feeling. It reminds me of how I

> > > > used to be, a feeling like drowning. Like teatering on a precipice,

> > > > not wanting to fall over the edge but hardly a hope for staying on

> > > > top. Its is a terrifying situation to find oneself.

> > > >

> > > > I am not the LLMD you are seeking but I think I can get you pointed

> > > > in the right direction.

> > > >

> > > > For now, don't bother trying to kill off bacteria with antibiotics,

> > > > rife, or any other method. Its sounds pretty clear you are unable to

> > > > eliminate the wave of toxins that are produced and it will only

> > > > further weaken you, resulting in an even better environment within

> > > > your body for bacteria to thrive.

> > > >

> > > > Focus on Detoxing. As you know there are a million ways to detox.

> > > > Some are better and some are worse. What I recommend is a coffee

> > > > enema. I don't care if the idea of putting coffee in your back side

> > > > freaks you out. The way I see it, you don't have many other options.

> > > > Coffee enemas are a great way of kick starting your liver. You will

> > > > feel much better then you do now in about 15 minutes!

> > > >

> > > > I urge you to do coffee enemas regularly for a while. Every day

> > > > until you get your toxic load down, and then wean off of them from

> > > > there.

> > > >

> > > > You are probably wondering why you shouldn't be attacking the

> > > > bacteria at this point. If you work on opening up your channels of

> > > > elimination, specifically Liver, Kidneys, and colon, your body will

> > > > be much cleaner and the bacteria will start to die by itself. It

> > > > simply cannot survive in a body that is free of toxins. Remember

> > > > that the neurotoxins are immunosuppressive. If you keep your levels

> > > > of toxins low then your immune system will jump back in the fight.

> > > >

> > > > Also, begin using the supplement " Free and Easy Wanderer " . It is the

> > > > BEST liver herbal formula i've found. It is POWERFUL! Start out

> > > > slow. A couple small pills a day. You will notice the effects right

> > > > away. This supplement will help you detox and repair your liver, but

> > > > will also kill off the infection in your liver causing herxes. Once

> > > > you have used this supplement for a while your liver will be ready to

> > > > handle the more aggressive lyme killing treatments.

> > > >

> > > > For your adrenals I urge you to try the formula " Golden Book " . It is

> > > > great for the adrenals. This herb works much the same way as the

> > > > liver herbs, begin very slowly, it will cause a herx but will

> > > > completely restore your adrenals and Kidneys.

> > > >

> > > > As I have mentioned before, I returned from the brink, similar to the

> > > > situation you find yourself in, and I did it by using these two

> > > > herbal formulas. They very well saved my life. I think in the early

> > > > phases of Lyme treatment there is too much of an emphasis

> > > > on " killing " the infection. We should not underestimate the power of

> > > > our own immune system. All we need to do is support our bodies

> > > > process of eliminating the toxins, it knows how to do the rest. Once

> > > > you have stabilized your health then it is a good idea to start

> > > > attacking the infection with anitbiotics and rife, but until then

> > > > just support Ellens body. All you need to do is give it the tools it

> > > > needs for the job, and keep hauling out the trash.

> > > > I beg you to try those two herbal formulas for three months. Like I

> > > > said they will make you herx, but you will intuitively know you are

> > > > going down the right path.

> > > >

> > > > Here are links for the supplements I suggested

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > > wanderer-p-32. html

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > > 35.html

> > > >

> > > > I wish you the very best Ellen, I KNOW you will get better.

> > > >

> > > > Thane in MN

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > Posted by: " thane17 " thane17@<mailto:thane17%40> thane17

> > > >

> > > > Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:13 am (PST)

> > > >

> > > > I used to herx really hard from nearly anything. Five minutes in a

> > > > Sauna would cause me to herx so hard I could hardly walk out of there

> > > > and would be sick for a week. Glyconutrients were out of the question

> > > > and a couple squirts of silver would tempt me to leap off a bridge.

> > > > Then I focused on improving my Liver and kidney function with chinese

> > > > herbs and now I seem to handle the herxes much better. I have a

> > > > feeling that most of us lymies are not prioritizing our

> > > > detoxification organs enough. I think early on detoxification should

> > > > be almost more important than the actually antibacterial methods, and

> > > > then as we get better the emphasis should be more on finding a way to

> > > > kill the last bugs still hanging around.

> > > >

> > > > " Free and Easy Wanderer " is great for liver detoxification. I

> > > > recomend it for everyone. Its like several coffee enemas every day

> > > > but also has the materials to heal the liver as well. I made a little

> > > > video about it at

http://www.youtube.<http://www.youtube./><http://www.youtube./<http://www.youtub\

e./>><http://www.youtube./<http://www.youtube./><http://www.youtube./<http://www\

..youtube./>>><http://www.youtube./<http://www.youtube./><http://www.youtube./<ht\

tp://www.youtube./>><http://www.youtube./<http://www.youtube./><http://www.youtu\

be./<http://www.youtube./>>>> com/watch? v=72b3FWW2aII

> > > > Sorry if i've posted this link already, can't remember. Its just been

> > > > such a helpful herb for me that I want the world to know about it. It

> > > > offers a way to herx the liver while leaving most of the rest of the

> > > > body alone. I don't know of any other remedy that can offer that.

> > > >

> > > > Long before I learned I had lyme I discovered that I was really

> > > > toxic. I had no idea what was causing it but I felt better after

> > > > doing cleanses like liver flush and enemas and so I stuck with it. I

> > > > was very sick and had nearly lost my ability to take care of myself

> > > > at all. My mind was nearly gone. I improved 50% without a single

> > > > antibiotic therapy but only using detoxification and nutritional

> > > > support.

> > > >

> > > > My theory is, if we can find supportive therapies that cause a herx,

> > > > then we should focus on those and run with them as long as we can

> > > > before hitting the rife and other therapies. Because treating lyme

> > > > is so hard on our bodies I think our best approach might be to focus

> > > > entirely on preparing our bodies for the hard treatment ahead in

> > > > every way possible. Then when we have cleared our liver,

> > > > strengthened our Kidneys, got our bowels moving as they should, and

> > > > corrected any nutritional deficiencies, then and only then should we

> > > > proceed to killing off bacteria. I do realize there are exceptions to

> > > > this though.

> > > >

> > > > Since I didn't know what was wrong with me I continued a long time

> > > > with the detoxification and I suspect that now that I'm treating

> > > > Lyme, I will be able to handle the herxes much better than I would

> > > > have otherwise and possibly accelerate my healing. I guess we will

> > > > see though, the jury is still out. I just wonder if many people

> > > > suffering with Lyme disease enter their treatment with decent

> > > > detoxification abilities but they soon become clogged and bogged down

> > > > with toxins and halfway through their treatment they find themselves

> > > > in a stalemate with the bacteria. They're still killing the bacteria

> > > > but their bodies have become so weak that it has become a good

> > > > environment for the bacteria to live.

> > > >

> > > > I apologize if my post is a bit disorganized. I'm in a pretty

> > > > intense battle with my lyme brain.

> > > > Thane MN

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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I would try the Free and Easy if I were you . What do you have to

loose? I've reached the point of desperation before with my health. Almost

completely crippled from ALS, MS Alzheimers, Fibro, Chronic Fatigue etc. It was

out of that desperation that I tried so many things, that attitude I still have

today has helped me to learn about myself and how to health. It's been a

priceless experience.

I can't start Free and Easy yet though because I need to gauge my response to

these glutathione patches. Want to see what glutathione and carnosine will do

for me and then get some blood tests.

When I start the Free and Easy you guys will be the first to know if I feel it

is all it's been hyped up to be.

Group Hug all around,

Brad

>

> Would this formula be good for someone with Hepatitis C? Any other

recommendations? Dave?

>

> Thanks.

>

> .

>

> --- In gallstones , " Dave Shelden " <wholehealthawareness@>

wrote:

> >

> > Free and Easy Wanderer is a female hormonal/menstrual tonic. The female

cycle is mainly a blood movement/liver congestion issue. This is why it would

work for liver detox as well. This formula is spectacular at times for teen age

girls with menstrual issues. -D

> > Free and Easy Wanderer

> >

> >

> >

> > Ellen,

> > I am sorry to hear how you have been feeling. It reminds me of how I

> > used to be, a feeling like drowning. Like teatering on a precipice,

> > not wanting to fall over the edge but hardly a hope for staying on

> > top. Its is a terrifying situation to find oneself.

> >

> > I am not the LLMD you are seeking but I think I can get you pointed

> > in the right direction.

> >

> > For now, don't bother trying to kill off bacteria with antibiotics,

> > rife, or any other method. Its sounds pretty clear you are unable to

> > eliminate the wave of toxins that are produced and it will only

> > further weaken you, resulting in an even better environment within

> > your body for bacteria to thrive.

> >

> > Focus on Detoxing. As you know there are a million ways to detox.

> > Some are better and some are worse. What I recommend is a coffee

> > enema. I don't care if the idea of putting coffee in your back side

> > freaks you out. The way I see it, you don't have many other options.

> > Coffee enemas are a great way of kick starting your liver. You will

> > feel much better then you do now in about 15 minutes!

> >

> > I urge you to do coffee enemas regularly for a while. Every day

> > until you get your toxic load down, and then wean off of them from

> > there.

> >

> > You are probably wondering why you shouldn't be attacking the

> > bacteria at this point. If you work on opening up your channels of

> > elimination, specifically Liver, Kidneys, and colon, your body will

> > be much cleaner and the bacteria will start to die by itself. It

> > simply cannot survive in a body that is free of toxins. Remember

> > that the neurotoxins are immunosuppressive. If you keep your levels

> > of toxins low then your immune system will jump back in the fight.

> >

> > Also, begin using the supplement " Free and Easy Wanderer " . It is the

> > BEST liver herbal formula i've found. It is POWERFUL! Start out

> > slow. A couple small pills a day. You will notice the effects right

> > away. This supplement will help you detox and repair your liver, but

> > will also kill off the infection in your liver causing herxes. Once

> > you have used this supplement for a while your liver will be ready to

> > handle the more aggressive lyme killing treatments.

> >

> > For your adrenals I urge you to try the formula " Golden Book " . It is

> > great for the adrenals. This herb works much the same way as the

> > liver herbs, begin very slowly, it will cause a herx but will

> > completely restore your adrenals and Kidneys.

> >

> > As I have mentioned before, I returned from the brink, similar to the

> > situation you find yourself in, and I did it by using these two

> > herbal formulas. They very well saved my life. I think in the early

> > phases of Lyme treatment there is too much of an emphasis

> > on " killing " the infection. We should not underestimate the power of

> > our own immune system. All we need to do is support our bodies

> > process of eliminating the toxins, it knows how to do the rest. Once

> > you have stabilized your health then it is a good idea to start

> > attacking the infection with anitbiotics and rife, but until then

> > just support Ellens body. All you need to do is give it the tools it

> > needs for the job, and keep hauling out the trash.

> > I beg you to try those two herbal formulas for three months. Like I

> > said they will make you herx, but you will intuitively know you are

> > going down the right path.

> >

> > Here are links for the supplements I suggested

> >

> > http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/> rthchineseherbs. com/xiao-

yao-wan-free- easy-

> > wanderer-p-32. html

> >

> > http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/> rthchineseherbs. com/jin-kui-

shen-qi-wan- teapills- p-

> > 35.html

> >

> > I wish you the very best Ellen, I KNOW you will get better.

> >

> > Thane in MN

> >

> >

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rbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html>

> >

> > Posted by: " thane17 " thane17@<mailto:thane17%40> thane17

> >

> > Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:13 am (PST)

> >

> > I used to herx really hard from nearly anything. Five minutes in a

> > Sauna would cause me to herx so hard I could hardly walk out of there

> > and would be sick for a week. Glyconutrients were out of the question

> > and a couple squirts of silver would tempt me to leap off a bridge.

> > Then I focused on improving my Liver and kidney function with chinese

> > herbs and now I seem to handle the herxes much better. I have a

> > feeling that most of us lymies are not prioritizing our

> > detoxification organs enough. I think early on detoxification should

> > be almost more important than the actually antibacterial methods, and

> > then as we get better the emphasis should be more on finding a way to

> > kill the last bugs still hanging around.

> >

> > " Free and Easy Wanderer " is great for liver detoxification. I

> > recomend it for everyone. Its like several coffee enemas every day

> > but also has the materials to heal the liver as well. I made a little

> > video about it at http://www.youtube.<http://www.youtube./> com/watch?

v=72b3FWW2aII

> > Sorry if i've posted this link already, can't remember. Its just been

> > such a helpful herb for me that I want the world to know about it. It

> > offers a way to herx the liver while leaving most of the rest of the

> > body alone. I don't know of any other remedy that can offer that.

> >

> > Long before I learned I had lyme I discovered that I was really

> > toxic. I had no idea what was causing it but I felt better after

> > doing cleanses like liver flush and enemas and so I stuck with it. I

> > was very sick and had nearly lost my ability to take care of myself

> > at all. My mind was nearly gone. I improved 50% without a single

> > antibiotic therapy but only using detoxification and nutritional

> > support.

> >

> > My theory is, if we can find supportive therapies that cause a herx,

> > then we should focus on those and run with them as long as we can

> > before hitting the rife and other therapies. Because treating lyme

> > is so hard on our bodies I think our best approach might be to focus

> > entirely on preparing our bodies for the hard treatment ahead in

> > every way possible. Then when we have cleared our liver,

> > strengthened our Kidneys, got our bowels moving as they should, and

> > corrected any nutritional deficiencies, then and only then should we

> > proceed to killing off bacteria. I do realize there are exceptions to

> > this though.

> >

> > Since I didn't know what was wrong with me I continued a long time

> > with the detoxification and I suspect that now that I'm treating

> > Lyme, I will be able to handle the herxes much better than I would

> > have otherwise and possibly accelerate my healing. I guess we will

> > see though, the jury is still out. I just wonder if many people

> > suffering with Lyme disease enter their treatment with decent

> > detoxification abilities but they soon become clogged and bogged down

> > with toxins and halfway through their treatment they find themselves

> > in a stalemate with the bacteria. They're still killing the bacteria

> > but their bodies have become so weak that it has become a good

> > environment for the bacteria to live.

> >

> > I apologize if my post is a bit disorganized. I'm in a pretty

> > intense battle with my lyme brain.

> > Thane MN

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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" that attitude I still have today has helped me to learn about myself and how to

health. "

Meant to say heal lol

I forgot to say also that, I've learned so much from you guys on this forum.

I'm so grateful for people who care enough about others to take the time and

valuable energy to spread healing information.

Brad

> >

> > Would this formula be good for someone with Hepatitis C? Any other

recommendations? Dave?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > .

> >

> > --- In gallstones , " Dave Shelden " <wholehealthawareness@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Free and Easy Wanderer is a female hormonal/menstrual tonic. The female

cycle is mainly a blood movement/liver congestion issue. This is why it would

work for liver detox as well. This formula is spectacular at times for teen age

girls with menstrual issues. -D

> > > Free and Easy Wanderer

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ellen,

> > > I am sorry to hear how you have been feeling. It reminds me of how I

> > > used to be, a feeling like drowning. Like teatering on a precipice,

> > > not wanting to fall over the edge but hardly a hope for staying on

> > > top. Its is a terrifying situation to find oneself.

> > >

> > > I am not the LLMD you are seeking but I think I can get you pointed

> > > in the right direction.

> > >

> > > For now, don't bother trying to kill off bacteria with antibiotics,

> > > rife, or any other method. Its sounds pretty clear you are unable to

> > > eliminate the wave of toxins that are produced and it will only

> > > further weaken you, resulting in an even better environment within

> > > your body for bacteria to thrive.

> > >

> > > Focus on Detoxing. As you know there are a million ways to detox.

> > > Some are better and some are worse. What I recommend is a coffee

> > > enema. I don't care if the idea of putting coffee in your back side

> > > freaks you out. The way I see it, you don't have many other options.

> > > Coffee enemas are a great way of kick starting your liver. You will

> > > feel much better then you do now in about 15 minutes!

> > >

> > > I urge you to do coffee enemas regularly for a while. Every day

> > > until you get your toxic load down, and then wean off of them from

> > > there.

> > >

> > > You are probably wondering why you shouldn't be attacking the

> > > bacteria at this point. If you work on opening up your channels of

> > > elimination, specifically Liver, Kidneys, and colon, your body will

> > > be much cleaner and the bacteria will start to die by itself. It

> > > simply cannot survive in a body that is free of toxins. Remember

> > > that the neurotoxins are immunosuppressive. If you keep your levels

> > > of toxins low then your immune system will jump back in the fight.

> > >

> > > Also, begin using the supplement " Free and Easy Wanderer " . It is the

> > > BEST liver herbal formula i've found. It is POWERFUL! Start out

> > > slow. A couple small pills a day. You will notice the effects right

> > > away. This supplement will help you detox and repair your liver, but

> > > will also kill off the infection in your liver causing herxes. Once

> > > you have used this supplement for a while your liver will be ready to

> > > handle the more aggressive lyme killing treatments.

> > >

> > > For your adrenals I urge you to try the formula " Golden Book " . It is

> > > great for the adrenals. This herb works much the same way as the

> > > liver herbs, begin very slowly, it will cause a herx but will

> > > completely restore your adrenals and Kidneys.

> > >

> > > As I have mentioned before, I returned from the brink, similar to the

> > > situation you find yourself in, and I did it by using these two

> > > herbal formulas. They very well saved my life. I think in the early

> > > phases of Lyme treatment there is too much of an emphasis

> > > on " killing " the infection. We should not underestimate the power of

> > > our own immune system. All we need to do is support our bodies

> > > process of eliminating the toxins, it knows how to do the rest. Once

> > > you have stabilized your health then it is a good idea to start

> > > attacking the infection with anitbiotics and rife, but until then

> > > just support Ellens body. All you need to do is give it the tools it

> > > needs for the job, and keep hauling out the trash.

> > > I beg you to try those two herbal formulas for three months. Like I

> > > said they will make you herx, but you will intuitively know you are

> > > going down the right path.

> > >

> > > Here are links for the supplements I suggested

> > >

> > > http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/> rthchineseherbs. com/xiao-

yao-wan-free- easy-

> > > wanderer-p-32. html

> > >

> > > http://www.heavenea<http://www.heavenea/> rthchineseherbs. com/jin-kui-

shen-qi-wan- teapills- p-

> > > 35.html

> > >

> > > I wish you the very best Ellen, I KNOW you will get better.

> > >

> > > Thane in MN

> > >

> > >

http://www.agelessherbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html<http://www.agelesshe\

rbs.com/FreeandEasyWandererFormula.html>

> > >

> > > Posted by: " thane17 " thane17@<mailto:thane17%40> thane17

> > >

> > > Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:13 am (PST)

> > >

> > > I used to herx really hard from nearly anything. Five minutes in a

> > > Sauna would cause me to herx so hard I could hardly walk out of there

> > > and would be sick for a week. Glyconutrients were out of the question

> > > and a couple squirts of silver would tempt me to leap off a bridge.

> > > Then I focused on improving my Liver and kidney function with chinese

> > > herbs and now I seem to handle the herxes much better. I have a

> > > feeling that most of us lymies are not prioritizing our

> > > detoxification organs enough. I think early on detoxification should

> > > be almost more important than the actually antibacterial methods, and

> > > then as we get better the emphasis should be more on finding a way to

> > > kill the last bugs still hanging around.

> > >

> > > " Free and Easy Wanderer " is great for liver detoxification. I

> > > recomend it for everyone. Its like several coffee enemas every day

> > > but also has the materials to heal the liver as well. I made a little

> > > video about it at http://www.youtube.<http://www.youtube./> com/watch?

v=72b3FWW2aII

> > > Sorry if i've posted this link already, can't remember. Its just been

> > > such a helpful herb for me that I want the world to know about it. It

> > > offers a way to herx the liver while leaving most of the rest of the

> > > body alone. I don't know of any other remedy that can offer that.

> > >

> > > Long before I learned I had lyme I discovered that I was really

> > > toxic. I had no idea what was causing it but I felt better after

> > > doing cleanses like liver flush and enemas and so I stuck with it. I

> > > was very sick and had nearly lost my ability to take care of myself

> > > at all. My mind was nearly gone. I improved 50% without a single

> > > antibiotic therapy but only using detoxification and nutritional

> > > support.

> > >

> > > My theory is, if we can find supportive therapies that cause a herx,

> > > then we should focus on those and run with them as long as we can

> > > before hitting the rife and other therapies. Because treating lyme

> > > is so hard on our bodies I think our best approach might be to focus

> > > entirely on preparing our bodies for the hard treatment ahead in

> > > every way possible. Then when we have cleared our liver,

> > > strengthened our Kidneys, got our bowels moving as they should, and

> > > corrected any nutritional deficiencies, then and only then should we

> > > proceed to killing off bacteria. I do realize there are exceptions to

> > > this though.

> > >

> > > Since I didn't know what was wrong with me I continued a long time

> > > with the detoxification and I suspect that now that I'm treating

> > > Lyme, I will be able to handle the herxes much better than I would

> > > have otherwise and possibly accelerate my healing. I guess we will

> > > see though, the jury is still out. I just wonder if many people

> > > suffering with Lyme disease enter their treatment with decent

> > > detoxification abilities but they soon become clogged and bogged down

> > > with toxins and halfway through their treatment they find themselves

> > > in a stalemate with the bacteria. They're still killing the bacteria

> > > but their bodies have become so weak that it has become a good

> > > environment for the bacteria to live.

> > >

> > > I apologize if my post is a bit disorganized. I'm in a pretty

> > > intense battle with my lyme brain.

> > > Thane MN

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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