Re: somewhat off topic: practical question

[Guest guest]

oatmeal cookies I love = no sugar, butter, or flour.

rolled oats

3 banana's - not too ripe

1/3 cup veggie or peanut oil

1 teaspoon vanilla

raisans, pecans, other...

banana's act like butter...

making some now.

Jay

From: gregbrowneyedgirl <odile_wolf@...>

Subject: somewhat off topic: practical question

gallstones

Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 4:18 PM

 

Hi,

My husband is suffering from gallstones and attacks. He wants to avoid the

surgery.

He is triggered by meat fat, but not by olive oil.

As he has a sweet tooth, I would like to bake for him but I am unsure about

using butter or veggetable shortening or ... coconut oil.

Does anyone have personal experience with this?

Odile

[Guest guest]

Odile

From what I have read on it Monounsaturated fats (olive oil, coconut

oil) are the best

fats to include in your diet.

here are just a few of the sites that came up when I did a search using

gallstones & virgin coconut oil.

http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/coconut_oli.asp

http://www.coconut-oil-central.com/coconut-oil-gallbladder.html

http://www.thevirgincoconutoil.com/articleitem.php?articleid=188

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\

-

Hi,

My husband is suffering from gallstones and attacks. He wants to avoid the

surgery.

He is triggered by meat fat, but not by olive oil.

As he has a sweet tooth, I would like to bake for him but I am unsure about

using butter or veggetable shortening or ... coconut oil.

Does anyone have personal experience with this?

Odile

>

[Guest guest]

Jay, don't be a tease tell us how you make them.

Are they cooked, refrigerated, or just left out to dry???

I need more details, so I can make these for dh.

Virgin coconut oil would probably go well in these and it's very healthy

for you.

Jay Grosflam wrote:

> oatmeal cookies I love = no sugar, butter, or flour.

>

> rolled oats

> 3 banana's - not too ripe

> 1/3 cup veggie or peanut oil

> 1 teaspoon vanilla

> raisans, pecans, other...

>

> banana's act like butter...

>

> making some now.

>

> Jay

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

oven - 350 degrees for 20 - 25 minutes

you can add whatever...

Make some for me.

Jay

> oatmeal cookies I love = no sugar, butter, or flour.

>

> rolled oats

> 3 banana's - not too ripe

> 1/3 cup veggie or peanut oil

> 1 teaspoon vanilla

> raisans, pecans, other...

>

> banana's act like butter...

>

> making some now.

>

> Jay

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

you can also use avocados instead of banana's

From: Lady Pilgrim <Ladypilgrim@...>

Subject: Re: somewhat off topic: practical question

gallstones

Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 9:52 PM

 

Odile

From what I have read on it Monounsaturated fats (olive oil, coconut

oil) are the best

fats to include in your diet.

here are just a few of the sites that came up when I did a search using

gallstones & virgin coconut oil.

http://curezone. com/cleanse/ liver/coconut_ oli.asp

http://www.coconut- oil-central. com/coconut- oil-gallbladder. html

http://www.thevirgi ncoconutoil. com/articleitem. php?articleid= 188

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Hi,

My husband is suffering from gallstones and attacks. He wants to avoid the

surgery.

He is triggered by meat fat, but not by olive oil.

As he has a sweet tooth, I would like to bake for him but I am unsure about

using butter or veggetable shortening or ... coconut oil.

Does anyone have personal experience with this?

Odile

>

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Bake for 20 minutes in the preheated oven, or until

lightly brown.

> oatmeal cookies I love = no sugar, butter, or flour.

>

> rolled oats

> 3 banana's - not too ripe

> 1/3 cup veggie or peanut oil

> 1 teaspoon vanilla

> raisans, pecans, other...

>

> banana's act like butter...

>

> making some now.

>

> Jay

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds yummy, but I have to go buy bananas before I can make them.

Thank you,

Jay Grosflam wrote:

> oven - 350 degrees for 20 - 25 minutes

>

> you can add whatever...

>

> Make some for me.

>

> Jay

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

use butter, real butter

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:18 PM, gregbrowneyedgirl

<odile_wolf@...>wrote:

>

>

> Hi,

> My husband is suffering from gallstones and attacks. He wants to avoid the

> surgery.

> He is triggered by meat fat, but not by olive oil.

> As he has a sweet tooth, I would like to bake for him but I am unsure about

> using butter or veggetable shortening or ... coconut oil.

> Does anyone have personal experience with this?

> Odile

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for all the info. I am going to try with real butter since my dh

had a gallblader attack after eating a coconut popsicle (no dairy). He is

quite wary of the coconut. I'd be too.

Odile

Re: somewhat off topic: practical question

Odile

From what I have read on it Monounsaturated fats (olive oil, coconut

oil) are the best

fats to include in your diet.

here are just a few of the sites that came up when I did a search using

gallstones & virgin coconut oil.

http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/coconut_oli.asp

http://www.coconut-oil-central.com/coconut-oil-gallbladder.html

http://www.thevirgincoconutoil.com/articleitem.php?articleid=188

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----

Hi,

My husband is suffering from gallstones and attacks. He wants to avoid the

surgery.

He is triggered by meat fat, but not by olive oil.

As he has a sweet tooth, I would like to bake for him but I am unsure about

using butter or veggetable shortening or ... coconut oil.

Does anyone have personal experience with this?

Odile

>

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Definitely stay away from vegetable shortening as it is bad for anyone,

gallbladder problems or not.

Extra virgin olive oil is okay but you shouldn't cook with it or any oil except

coconut oil.

Coconut oil is good. It contains saturated fat but it is medium-chain, not

long-chain which is suppose to be okay. Plus it has many healthful and healing

properties.

Dairy is not good. As many as two-thirds of people have some sort of dairy

allergy and most don't know that is what is bothering them. Dairy and other

food allergies are know to cause gallbladder problems. Some people think that

raw may be okay. It may be okay, but I am not taking any chances.

Good luck...

>

> Hi,

> My husband is suffering from gallstones and attacks. He wants to avoid the

surgery.

> He is triggered by meat fat, but not by olive oil.

> As he has a sweet tooth, I would like to bake for him but I am unsure about

using butter or veggetable shortening or ... coconut oil.

> Does anyone have personal experience with this?

> Odile

>

[Guest guest]

I would avoid dairy, it can cause very common inflammitory reactions which can

only make things worse for the gb.

www.notmilk.com

B

>

> Thank you for all the info. I am going to try with real butter since my dh

> had a gallblader attack after eating a coconut popsicle (no dairy). He is

> quite wary of the coconut. I'd be too.

> Odile

>

> Re: somewhat off topic: practical question

>

> Odile

>

> From what I have read on it Monounsaturated fats (olive oil, coconut

> oil) are the best

> fats to include in your diet.

> here are just a few of the sites that came up when I did a search using

> gallstones & virgin coconut oil.

> http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/coconut_oli.asp

> http://www.coconut-oil-central.com/coconut-oil-gallbladder.html

> http://www.thevirgincoconutoil.com/articleitem.php?articleid=188

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> -----

> Hi,

> My husband is suffering from gallstones and attacks. He wants to avoid the

> surgery.

> He is triggered by meat fat, but not by olive oil.

> As he has a sweet tooth, I would like to bake for him but I am unsure about

> using butter or veggetable shortening or ... coconut oil.

> Does anyone have personal experience with this?

> Odile

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

>

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> I would avoid dairy, it can cause very common inflammitory reactions which can

only make things worse for the gb.

> www.notmilk.com

>

> B

>

One of the biggest problem with the vast majority of conventional dairy products

available today is that they're utterly unnatural. That's due in large part to

the fact that these products are pasteurized and homogonized. Pasteurization

and homogenization denature milk destroying its beneficial enzyme and

bacteriological content.

Another huge reason conventional dairy products are so unhealthy and unnatural

is because they're derived from factory farmed animals that are extremely

stressed their entire lives. As a result, factory farmed animals are often

terribly unhealthy.

The sad fact is that factory farmed animals are cruelly confined and often

forced to stand for long periods of time in their own wastes. They're fed

inappropriate foods like genetically modified corn and soy, they're routinely

given antibiotics and synthetic hormones, and they're never allowed to graze and

roam freely on green grassy pastures the way nature intended for them to.

Raw dairy products from animals that are allowed to free range and graze on

green grass, on the other hand, are entirely different from conventional dairy

products. Raw milk from grass fed animals, especially if those animals are

raised on organic pastures and are hormone, drug and GMO free, is a natural,

extremely nutrient dense food that human beings have been consuming for eons.

Butter, cheese, yogurt, kefir and cream derived from the raw milk of grass fed

animals are some of the most nourishing foods on the planet, and people all over

the world have successfully eaten these nutrient rich foods for a very long time

indeed.

Many people who are lactose intolerant find they can consume raw dairy products

with no problem. People allergic to conventional dairy likewise are often

surprised to find that they have no allergic reactions when consuming raw dairy.

Check out these sites for more information on the many health benefits of

consuming raw dairy products from grass fed animals:

http://www.realmilk.com/

http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/

http://www.rawmilk.org/default.php

http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm

[Guest guest]

I just recalled how I felt after eating coconut oil. Terrible. I had some bad

inflammation for about 1/2 a day which was systemic. Also got some cramping in

my GI. The next day I tried it again and no such symptoms. Since coconut oil

is anti fungal and anti viral (monolauren) then maybe those symptoms were due to

pathogenic die off.

I agree with Elan's post. Very well put together info I must say. Seeing as I

have some insight on the RBGH scandal (cow growth hormone), I can definitely see

the unhealthy side of conventional hormone, pesticide, virally infected dairy

products.

When it comes to the emotional state of animals that we consume. There is

studies done in the field of quantum physics. Emotions, thoughts and feelings

can be passed onto people who consume the meat of animals that have been

mistreated. Most likely this translates to milk as well.

Have a good day guys,

Brad

>

> Thank you for all the info. I am going to try with real butter since my dh

> had a gallblader attack after eating a coconut popsicle (no dairy). He is

> quite wary of the coconut. I'd be too.

> Odile

>

> Re: somewhat off topic: practical question

>

> Odile

>

> From what I have read on it Monounsaturated fats (olive oil, coconut

> oil) are the best

> fats to include in your diet.

> here are just a few of the sites that came up when I did a search using

> gallstones & virgin coconut oil.

> http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/coconut_oli.asp

> http://www.coconut-oil-central.com/coconut-oil-gallbladder.html

> http://www.thevirgincoconutoil.com/articleitem.php?articleid=188

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> -----

> Hi,

> My husband is suffering from gallstones and attacks. He wants to avoid the

> surgery.

> He is triggered by meat fat, but not by olive oil.

> As he has a sweet tooth, I would like to bake for him but I am unsure about

> using butter or veggetable shortening or ... coconut oil.

> Does anyone have personal experience with this?

> Odile

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Raw milk has in fact killed people because of the fact that it is raw and

unpasteurized. It is rare, but it happens. However, Mc's food has killed

more people than raw milk.

Why is it illegal in most states? The reason usually given is that it is not

safe. Is there more to it than that? Are there political and/or financial

reasons for this? Probably, but I don't know...

Even if you assume that raw milk is safe, some people will still argue that it

is not good to consume. The argument is that cow's milk is designed only for

the calf. But if you are intent on consuming another species' milk, they say

that goat's milk is the best. Goat's milk is suppose to be closer to mother's

milk than cow's milk.

With all of that said, I think that you will find very few detractor's of

consuming raw cow's milk. Milk kefir is suppose to have many health benefits.

You can buy it at health food stores, but I am not sure if it is typically made

from unpasteurized milk or not.

>

>

> From: elan_spire <elan_spire@...>

> Subject: Re: somewhat off topic: practical question

> gallstones

> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 2:17 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> --- In gallstones@gro ups.com, " ontarioguy2334 " <ontarioguy2334@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > I would avoid dairy, it can cause very common inflammitory reactions which

can only make things worse for the gb.

> > www.notmilk. com

> >

> > B

> >

>

> One of the biggest problem with the vast majority of conventional dairy

products available today is that they're utterly unnatural. That's due in large

part to the fact that these products are pasteurized and homogonized.

Pasteurization and homogenization denature milk destroying its beneficial enzyme

and bacteriological content.

>

> Another huge reason conventional dairy products are so unhealthy and unnatural

is because they're derived from factory farmed animals that are extremely

stressed their entire lives. As a result, factory farmed animals are often

terribly unhealthy.

>

> The sad fact is that factory farmed animals are cruelly confined and often

forced to stand for long periods of time in their own wastes. They're fed

inappropriate foods like genetically modified corn and soy, they're routinely

given antibiotics and synthetic hormones, and they're never allowed to graze and

roam freely on green grassy pastures the way nature intended for them to.

>

> Raw dairy products from animals that are allowed to free range and graze on

green grass, on the other hand, are entirely different from conventional dairy

products. Raw milk from grass fed animals, especially if those animals are

raised on organic pastures and are hormone, drug and GMO free, is a natural,

extremely nutrient dense food that human beings have been consuming for eons.

Butter, cheese, yogurt, kefir and cream derived from the raw milk of grass fed

animals are some of the most nourishing foods on the planet, and people all over

the world have successfully eaten these nutrient rich foods for a very long time

indeed.

>

> Many people who are lactose intolerant find they can consume raw dairy

products with no problem. People allergic to conventional dairy likewise are

often surprised to find that they have no allergic reactions when consuming raw

dairy.

>

> Check out these sites for more information on the many health benefits of

consuming raw dairy products from grass fed animals:

>

> http://www.realmilk .com/

>

> http://www.raw- milk-facts. com/

>

> http://www.rawmilk. org/default. php

>

> http://www.westonap rice.org/ splash_2. htm

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Dave, what did the Mass. House just pass for mandatory vaccination?

[Guest guest]

>

> Elan,

> What you have written is simply brilliant and so compassionate.  Why >then are

states so reticent to allow raw milk that has been tested? 

>

There are any number of reasons so many states are so unwilling to legalize the

sale of raw dairy products. These reasons range from the widespread

dissemination of misinformation and disinformation, to the massive programming

of the pubic through the mainstream media, to things like ignorance, fear,

politics, big business, and perhaps most of all, MONEY.

Elan

[Guest guest]

Dave, I was hospitalized as an infant with bronchitis and pneumonia and

presumably given a lot of antibiotics, but I don't know for sure. This was

probably a result of my parents smoking, but I will never know that for sure

either.

In any case, I was not able to tolerate milk in my early years as I use to

" wheeze " until dairy was removed from my diet. In my adult years, I used to

have a lot of sinus infections until I got off the dairy.

I am wondering if there is a connection between your " ... feeding the good guys "

statement and my problems? Perhaps the antibiotics killed off most of the good

guys setting the stage for my dairy problems. I have never heard of candida

until a couple of years ago, but I think that I may have had it most of my life

based on symptoms.

I very much appreciate your thoughts on this...

> > >

> > > I would avoid dairy, it can cause very common inflammitory

> > reactions which can only make things worse for the gb.

> > > www.notmilk<http://www.notmilk/>. com

> > >

> > > B

> > >

> >

> > One of the biggest problem with the vast majority of conventional

> > dairy products available today is that they're utterly unnatural.

> > That's due in large part to the fact that these products are

> > pasteurized and homogonized. Pasteurization and homogenization

> > denature milk destroying its beneficial enzyme and bacteriological

> > content.

> >

> > Another huge reason conventional dairy products are so unhealthy and

> > unnatural is because they're derived from factory farmed animals

> > that are extremely stressed their entire lives. As a result, factory

> > farmed animals are often terribly unhealthy.

> >

> > The sad fact is that factory farmed animals are cruelly confined and

> > often forced to stand for long periods of time in their own wastes.

> > They're fed inappropriate foods like genetically modified corn and

> > soy, they're routinely given antibiotics and synthetic hormones, and

> > they're never allowed to graze and roam freely on green grassy

> > pastures the way nature intended for them to.

> >

> > Raw dairy products from animals that are allowed to free range and

> > graze on green grass, on the other hand, are entirely different from

> > conventional dairy products. Raw milk from grass fed animals,

> > especially if those animals are raised on organic pastures and are

> > hormone, drug and GMO free, is a natural, extremely nutrient dense

> > food that human beings have been consuming for eons. Butter, cheese,

> > yogurt, kefir and cream derived from the raw milk of grass fed

> > animals are some of the most nourishing foods on the planet, and

> > people all over the world have successfully eaten these nutrient

> > rich foods for a very long time indeed.

> >

> > Many people who are lactose intolerant find they can consume raw

> > dairy products with no problem. People allergic to conventional

> > dairy likewise are often surprised to find that they have no

> > allergic reactions when consuming raw dairy.

> >

> > Check out these sites for more information on the many health

> > benefits of consuming raw dairy products from grass fed animals:

> >

> > http://www.realmilk<http://www.realmilk/> .com/

> >

> > http://www.raw<http://www.raw/>- milk-facts. com/

> >

> > http://www.rawmilk<http://www.rawmilk/>. org/default. php

> >

> > http://www.westonap<http://www.westonap/> rice.org/ splash_2. htm

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dave, are you referring to the swine flu vaccine?

--- In gallstones , " Dave Shelden " <wholehealthawareness@...>

wrote:

>

> If it passes the state Senate and the Gov signs, they will be able to fine you

a thousand dollars a day and " intern " you against your will for refusing in the

case of a " pandemic " . And who (literally WHO in some cases and the US has

signed on...) decides a pandemic?... -D

> Re: somewhat off topic: practical question

>

>

> Dave, what did the Mass. House just pass for mandatory vaccination?

>

>

>

>

>

>