Re: Re: Is it possible for ACV to harm your stomach

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Oh, but you are an expert on the subject Fred... So much more so than most

gastroenterologists. Excellent. There are no accidents, no coincidences.

Right after reading this I had an update from Medscape containing a continuing

education course on the differences and proper application of PPIs... Just

finished. Unbelievable. Was great on the different chemical structures and

difference in functions of inhibiting HCL excretion but completely void of

either your information below or potential problems with the interference of

acid production. The only concern is for effectiveness of gastric inhibition

and therefore the " healing rate " of such things as erosive esophageal disease

and gastric ulcer disease. This is such a dangerous red herring. Both are

exacerbated by the situation you mention below. If we shut off the acid

production, cell structure can reform giving a false sense of " healing " .

Nothing was done for the problem, in fact in the situation you point out it is

the exact opposite and the real problem is exacerbated. Horrific consequences

such as the interference with the immunological function of stomach acidity

totally ignored. Another interesting one which was mentioned and I did not even

think about during the questions about anemia and low iron is the interference

of iron absorption from the suppression of HCL production. So for those on the

group who are dealing with low serum iron; has you dr. had you on an acid

blocker? Very common first donkey tail used with digestive upset symptoms...

Of course all of the deleterious effects of the PPIs is a long list. Munawar's

suggestions of licorice and mastic gum is spot on. Mastic gum has been shown in

study after study to kill helicobacter pylori. Licorice is both very anti

inflammatory, demulcent and also very effective in inhibiting helicobacter

pylori. Good book on the whole digestive ph issue is " Acid Is Good For You " by

Dr. athan (have not read it yet but know the man and his

understandings of the issue). Here is to proper digestion and assimilation...

-D

Re: Is it possible for ACV to harm your stomach

I am sure not an expert on the subject, but here is my understanding:

Most of the time taking acid-reducers is the wrong thing to do. It may give

you temporary relief, but can make the problem worse.

The problem for many people is not that there is too much acid in the stomach,

but that it stays there too long. There is a valve between the stomach and the

small intestine that opens when the ph gets down to a certain level. If the ph

is not reached, the valve does not open causing the stomach contents including

the acid to stay too long. Why does this happen? Improper food combining is a

major culprit. For example, do you eat protein and carbs at the same meal? A

lack of stomach acid, particulary as you age, can cause this as well. Some

people take HCL for this.

Hope this helps...

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> > >

> > >

> > > Is it possible for ACV to harm your stomach?

> > > I had some treatment for damage to my stomach caused by (as the doctors

> > > told me) overuse of Ibuprofren but I think it was damaged by Hpylori

Both

> > of

> > > these were treated successfully but att he same time i was also

diagnosed

> > > with gallstones and infected gallbladder and advised removal this is 10

> > > months ago but i said no i will try to treat it my self by diet and

> > > following this group.

> > > I use ACV a lot recently and especially after my bad attack on holiday

> > > I dont seem to have got back to normal although i am now back from hols

> > and

> > > had 1st good night sleep but i still wake up in pain this morniing and

am

> > > worried i might cause harm to my stomach from the ACV?

> > > For some reason I am exceptionally emotionally and am worried I may end

> > up

> > > having the surgery especially afer my friend just told me she had it

> > while

> > i

> > > was away on holiday.

> > > Can someone give me a link for the best foods to eat please as I am

> > > starting a new job on monday and dont want to be off sick when i just

> > > started.

> > > I am in the uk and have trouble finding beta foods and epsom salts?Also

> > > where can I buy chandra piedra i read about?

> > > Thank you so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Are you sure you want to send this message?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

My understanding is that there is not enough stomach acid, not to much.  So thse

acid reducers are not what you need.  That is why apple cider viengar works...

From: fjnie1234 <Fred.Niehaus@...>

Subject: Re: Is it possible for ACV to harm your stomach

gallstones

Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:01 AM

I am sure not an expert on the subject, but here is my understanding:

Most of the time taking acid-reducers is the wrong thing to do. It may give you

temporary relief, but can make the problem worse.

The problem for many people is not that there is too much acid in the stomach,

but that it stays there too long. There is a valve between the stomach and the

small intestine that opens when the ph gets down to a certain level. If the ph

is not reached, the valve does not open causing the stomach contents including

the acid to stay too long. Why does this happen? Improper food combining is a

major culprit. For example, do you eat protein and carbs at the same meal? A

lack of stomach acid, particulary as you age, can cause this as well. Some

people take HCL for this.

Hope this helps...

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Is it possible for ACV to harm your stomach?

> > > I had some treatment for damage to my stomach caused by (as the doctors

> > > told me) overuse of Ibuprofren but I think it was damaged by Hpylori Both

> > of

> > > these were treated successfully but att he same time i was also diagnosed

> > > with gallstones and infected gallbladder and advised removal this is 10

> > > months ago but i said no i will try to treat it my self by diet and

> > > following this group.

> > > I use ACV a lot recently and especially after my bad attack on holiday

> > > I dont seem to have got back to normal although i am now back from hols

> > and

> > > had 1st good night sleep but i still wake up in pain this morniing and am

> > > worried i might cause harm to my stomach from the ACV?

> > > For some reason I am exceptionally emotionally and am worried I may end

> > up

> > > having the surgery especially afer my friend just told me she had it

> > while

> > i

> > > was away on holiday.

> > > Can someone give me a link for the best foods to eat please as I am

> > > starting a new job on monday and dont want to be off sick when i just

> > > started.

> > > I am in the uk and have trouble finding beta foods and epsom salts?Also

> > > where can I buy chandra piedra i read about?

> > > Thank you so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Are you sure you want to send this message?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >