Re: too much salt?

[Guest guest]

>

> I recently read too much salt can rob the body of calcium and/or potassium. I

don't think this is the case for me since my adrenals are low and my body

thrives on the electrolyte drink. Just curious if my random occasional leg

cramps could be my random overdosing of salt and imbalancing my calcium. (I was

assuming maybe the cramping was not enough water, imbalanced cal/mag., etc.)

+++Hi Amy. That is absolutely untrue! You were probably reading about table

salt or refined salt; ocean sea salt isn't anything like those salts since it

contains natural sodium and chloride along with over 84 minerals which when

mixed in water are just like your own tears.

+++You get plenty of potassium from meats, eggs, vegetables, spices, and even

tea, so it is almost impossible to not get enough potassium.

+++Healthy people need 1 tsp. of ocean sea salt per day, and because candida

sufferers have low adrenals I recommend 1 1/2 tsp. per day.

+++You cannot assume your cramping was because of not enough water, imbalanced

cal/mag, etc. since any leg cramps you've had in the past will be " retraced "

while you are healing.

> I don't measure my total salt intake precisely, as I also add it to my foods

(in addition to the drink). Do I need to be more careful with measuring my

total salt intake?

+++Actually the salt treatment for low adrenals is a lot more than I recommend,

so if you have more salt it won't hurt you. I knew a lady who took tablespoons

of ocean sea salt per day (I think it was 3 but I wouldn't swear by that) for

several days and it actually pulled her out of a deep depression.

Bee

[Guest guest]

What a relief, Bee, thanks for responding! I am just so surprised at how well

my body has responded to the sea salt and electrolyte drink, I am putting salt

on everything and loving how I feel! I am happy I don't need to over-analyze

the amounts and eat as I enjoy.

For some reason, despite all the reading about retracing, that did not occur to

me with the leg cramps. Thanks for the reminder! (It is so easy to get caught

up in the supplements, adjusting amounts, etc. when this is still so new!)

Thanks!

Amy

> > I recently read too much salt can rob the body of calcium and/or potassium.

I don't think this is the case for me since my adrenals are low and my body

thrives on the electrolyte drink. Just curious if my random occasional leg

cramps could be my random overdosing of salt and imbalancing my calcium. (I was

assuming maybe the cramping was not enough water, imbalanced cal/mag., etc.)

>

> +++Hi Amy. That is absolutely untrue! You were probably reading about table

salt or refined salt; ocean sea salt isn't anything like those salts since it

contains natural sodium and chloride along with over 84 minerals which when

mixed in water are just like your own tears.

>

> +++You get plenty of potassium from meats, eggs, vegetables, spices, and even

tea, so it is almost impossible to not get enough potassium.

>

> +++Healthy people need 1 tsp. of ocean sea salt per day, and because candida

sufferers have low adrenals I recommend 1 1/2 tsp. per day.

>

> +++You cannot assume your cramping was because of not enough water, imbalanced

cal/mag, etc. since any leg cramps you've had in the past will be " retraced "

while you are healing.

>

> > I don't measure my total salt intake precisely, as I also add it to my foods

(in addition to the drink). Do I need to be more careful with measuring my

total salt intake?

>

> +++Actually the salt treatment for low adrenals is a lot more than I

recommend, so if you have more salt it won't hurt you. I knew a lady who took

tablespoons of ocean sea salt per day (I think it was 3 but I wouldn't swear by

that) for several days and it actually pulled her out of a deep depression.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have really been enjoying the salt in the electrolyte drink so I had extra

salt in it at both breakfast and lunch (maybe 3/4 tsp. in each), as well as

extra salt on my steak. Could that have set up a mineral imbalance and possibly

set off sugar cravings?

> Just trying to figure out what I did differently that could set off the sugar

craving so randomly since I have been very strict with the diet.

+++Hi Amy, no extra salt wouldn't set off any cravings. I think " seeing

chocolate " was an emotional trigger and not a physical one.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

I can tell you that sometimes the reaction you had to that chocolate cake can be

a conditioned response. In the past, I'm sure you grabbed a piece of it without

even thinking. So, seeing it just made you shift over into that groove of just

eating whatever you saw/felt like. It takes time to retrain those conditioned

responses. I don't think you are doing anything wrong with regards to the diet.

It's like Bee says, just seeing the chocolate triggered your cravings.

>

> Just trying to figure out what I did differently that could set off the sugar

craving so randomly since I have been very strict with the diet.

> Thanks,

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

wrote:

I can tell you that sometimes the reaction you had to that chocolate

cake can be a conditioned response. In the past, I'm sure you grabbed a

piece of it without even thinking. So, seeing it just made you shift

over into that groove of just eating whatever you saw/felt like. It

takes time to retrain those conditioned responses. I don't think you

are doing anything wrong with regards to the diet. It's like Bee says,

just seeing the chocolate triggered your cravings.

> " Amy Fischer " wrote:

>

>Just trying to figure out what I did differently that could set

off the sugar craving so >randomly since I have been very strict with

the diet..

___________________

I've had a similar reaction to simply smelling an former favorite foods.  What

I'm going through (and maybe you too) is indeed addiction withdrawal and it has

given me new understanding of what alcoholics must go through.  I'm finding food

addiction to be particularly difficult because unhealthy foods are everywhere

and we travel and eat out at restaurants so much.

I've really curbed eating out at restaurants...helps that I have the time and

enjoy cooking.  But when traveling, I discovered a whole new set of

circumstances in which I was a huge failure. 

We're leaving again in three days and I'm packing my blender and supplies this

time.  I've also gotten coconut oil gelcaps thanks to a lady here who posted a

link to the Emerald brand.  It won't be optimal, but I'm hoping I won't go

through the horrible die-off that I went through when I returned home from our

last trip.  I had the headache from hell for days and plenty of flu-like

symptoms to go with it. 

It was a good lesson for me to learn.  Go off the diet and pay!

W

[Guest guest]

sometimes i just use magnesium capsules and cut back on the epsom salts:)  Glda

you are feeling great...

________________________________

From: dcdietrich90 <dcdietrich90@...>

gallstones

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:46:09 AM

Subject: too much salt?

 

I just finished my fourth (or fifth?) gallbladder cleanse and am now fairly

convinced that it is dehydration from too many epsom salts that make me sick and

vomit. Also, I think it is making me more susceptible to muscle cramping. The

regime I was following has me taking 4 tablespoons of epsom salts in three cups

of water (with two cups drunk afterward) over a period of about twelve hours.

Consistently I become intensely nauseous and previously threw up after taking

the morning dose. My tongue become very dry and white and I don't seem to have

much bowel movement unless I take more water. This morning, in contrast to the

last cleanse, I followed another protocol which called for two teaspoons of

normal salt in one quart of water. That has worked fabulously. I have had no

nausea and lots and lots of good movement with little, floating brown things

which I believe match the description of bile-duct crystals. Anyway, the point

is I feel fabulous and was

wondering if any of you have any experience with how to handle the ratios of

salt, oil, and water during a flush.

Thank you all so much!

[Guest guest]

Salt will really make your sick gall bladder infected further.  A simple

experiment, sprinkle salt on your wound.  The wound or your skin immediately

reacts on it. You'll feel the pains immediately.  How much more with your

infected gall bladder?

Jess Guim

New York City Sightseeing

http://www.bigapplecity.com

From: Rose Conforti <roseconforti@...>

Subject: Re: too much salt?

gallstones

Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 1:48 PM

 

sometimes i just use magnesium capsules and cut back on the

epsom salts:)  Glda you are feeling great...

____________ _________ _________ __

From: dcdietrich90 <dcdietrich90>

gallstones@gro ups.com

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:46:09 AM

Subject: too much salt?

 

I just finished my fourth (or fifth?) gallbladder cleanse and am now fairly

convinced that it is dehydration from too many epsom salts that make me sick and

vomit. Also, I think it is making me more susceptible to muscle cramping. The

regime I was following has me taking 4 tablespoons of epsom salts in three cups

of water (with two cups drunk afterward) over a period of about twelve hours.

Consistently I become intensely nauseous and previously threw up after taking

the morning dose. My tongue become very dry and white and I don't seem to have

much bowel movement unless I take more water. This morning, in contrast to the

last cleanse, I followed another protocol which called for two teaspoons of

normal salt in one quart of water. That has worked fabulously. I have had no

nausea and lots and lots of good movement with little, floating brown things

which I believe match the description of bile-duct crystals. Anyway, the point

is I feel fabulous and was

wondering if any of you have any experience with how to handle the ratios of

salt, oil, and water during a flush.

Thank you all so much!

[Guest guest]

sounds to me like you just need to drink more water...

From: dcdietrich90 <dcdietrich90@...>

Subject: too much salt?

gallstones

Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:46 AM

 

I just finished my fourth (or fifth?) gallbladder cleanse and

am now fairly convinced that it is dehydration from too many epsom salts that

make me sick and vomit. Also, I think it is making me more susceptible to muscle

cramping. The regime I was following has me taking 4 tablespoons of epsom salts

in three cups of water (with two cups drunk afterward) over a period of about

twelve hours. Consistently I become intensely nauseous and previously threw up

after taking the morning dose. My tongue become very dry and white and I don't

seem to have much bowel movement unless I take more water. This morning, in

contrast to the last cleanse, I followed another protocol which called for two

teaspoons of normal salt in one quart of water. That has worked fabulously. I

have had no nausea and lots and lots of good movement with little, floating

brown things which I believe match the description of bile-duct crystals.

Anyway, the point is I feel

fabulous and was wondering if any of you have any experience with how to handle

the ratios of salt, oil, and water during a flush.

Thank you all so much!

[Guest guest]

I disagree - when I have a cut or would and I am in saltwater it heals really

quickly...I have seen this repeatedly over many years.

From: Rose Conforti <roseconforti>

Subject: Re: too much salt?

gallstones@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 1:48 PM

 

sometimes i just use magnesium capsules and cut back on the epsom salts:)  Glda

you are feeling great...

____________ _________ _________ __

From: dcdietrich90 <dcdietrich90>

gallstones@gro ups.com

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:46:09 AM

Subject: too much salt?

 

I just finished my fourth (or fifth?) gallbladder cleanse and am now fairly

convinced that it is dehydration from too many epsom salts that make me sick and

vomit. Also, I think it is making me more susceptible to muscle cramping. The

regime I was following has me taking 4 tablespoons of epsom salts in three cups

of water (with two cups drunk afterward) over a period of about twelve hours.

Consistently I become intensely nauseous and previously threw up after taking

the morning dose. My tongue become very dry and white and I don't seem to have

much bowel movement unless I take more water. This morning, in contrast to the

last cleanse, I followed another protocol which called for two teaspoons of

normal salt in one quart of water. That has worked fabulously. I have had no

nausea and lots and lots of good movement with little, floating brown things

which I believe match the description of bile-duct crystals. Anyway, the point

is I feel fabulous and was

wondering if any of you have any experience with how to handle the ratios of

salt, oil, and water during a flush.

Thank you all so much!

[Guest guest]

Well, what really gets me is the fact that one set of instructions has you

taking 2 (or 3?) tsp. of salt to a quart of water for a saltwater flush that is

optional the next morning while the other instructions have you taking a

solution of 4 tbps. of salt to less than half that.

Jay Grosflam wrote:

>

> sounds to me like you just need to drink more water...

[Guest guest]

there are salt water flushes, especially connected to the master cleanse and

then there are flushes containing Epsom salts. these should not be confused.

While there are similarities between all salts, this is a very large group of

chemicals. Salt as we know it is sodium chloride. But any mineral bonded to a

negatively charged element becomes a salt... therefore, magnesium sulfate is a

" salt " , but very different in many ways from sodium chloride... We cannot

necessarily trade one salt for another. -D

Re: too much salt?

Well, what really gets me is the fact that one set of instructions has you

taking 2 (or 3?) tsp. of salt to a quart of water for a saltwater flush that is

optional the next morning while the other instructions have you taking a

solution of 4 tbps. of salt to less than half that.

Jay Grosflam wrote:

>

> sounds to me like you just need to drink more water...

[Guest guest]

Okay, so presuming that the epsom salt is doing something critically essential

(besides causing vomiting, muscle cramps, and dehydration), would it still work

in the same quantities as other salt flushes?

--- In gallstones , " Dave Shelden " <wholehealthawareness@...>

wrote:

>

> there are salt water flushes, especially connected to the master cleanse and

then there are flushes containing Epsom salts. these should not be confused.

While there are similarities between all salts, this is a very large group of

chemicals. Salt as we know it is sodium chloride. But any mineral bonded to a

negatively charged element becomes a salt... therefore, magnesium sulfate is a

" salt " , but very different in many ways from sodium chloride... We cannot

necessarily trade one salt for another. -D

[Guest guest]

magnesium sulfate is so relaxing to smooth muscle that if a woman goes into

premature labor it is a magnesium sulfate drip that they use to stop it. Should

not cause cramps. so the cramps are the bodies way of trying to expel the

" salt " . Salt water by the way is used to produce nausea on purpose to promote

vomiting. Learned that one at the age of 4 when I was hit by a big wave on Cape

Cod... Lovely experience. Specially for a 4 year old. All salts attract

water. If it is a sodium salt inside the cell, it draws fluid into the cell.

If it is a potassium salt on the outside it draws fluid out of the cell into

lymph and blood and then heads for kidneys. Gonna pee. So magnesium salts draw

fluid to the bowel, either from ingested fluids or if not enough available, from

the body. Drink lots of water if you are getting dehydrated. This is the magic

of brines in the culinary world. Stick a turkey in a salt solution for a short

period of time and you get dried wood pulp. Leave it in until well past the

point of equilibrium (the point at which the salt concentration has equalized on

both the outside and inside of the turkey) and then the fluid aspect takes over

drawing the brine and any added flavorings deep into the meat, creating the

tastiest moistest bird imaginable. For everyone who wants desperately to

eliminate the Epsom salts component: You do not have to use Epsom salts but you

must replace with another magnesium salt. Citrate, malate, oxide, are all

acceptable. They are going to create similar aspects... which are why you are

ingesting them in the first place. Your bowels will go liquid (essential). The

Gallbladder and duct will relax (essential). They taste terrible. Magnesium

citrate is available in liquid form at even a Safeway. Flavored but use

wonderful poisons like aspartame to sweeten.

This however is not what the " Salt " flushes are about. They are merely to

stimulate evacuations. Intestines, kidney stimulation, And potential bile.

They tend to be used with other eliminatory stimulating therapies such as the

master flush which includes cayenne, lemon, and maple syrup. If you are trying

to draw toxins out of the cell simply with salts, you will be purposely creating

dehydration. Not a value statement, only fact.

Think I may head to cape Cod and see if I cannot find a really big wave...

Always, in all ways,

-Dave

Re: too much salt?

Okay, so presuming that the epsom salt is doing something critically

essential (besides causing vomiting, muscle cramps, and dehydration), would it

still work in the same quantities as other salt flushes?

>

> there are salt water flushes, especially connected to the master cleanse and

then there are flushes containing Epsom salts. these should not be confused.

While there are similarities between all salts, this is a very large group of

chemicals. Salt as we know it is sodium chloride. But any mineral bonded to a

negatively charged element becomes a salt... therefore, magnesium sulfate is a

" salt " , but very different in many ways from sodium chloride... We cannot

necessarily trade one salt for another. -D