Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 are you shopping for opinions? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, maestramarquez <maestramarquez@...>wrote: > > > i've been dealing w/gallstones for a while, but not until recently was it > " bad. " i have multiple stones. the GI specialist says surgery is the only > way. i'm desperately trying to research & make the best decision. i've > spoken to a chiropractor and have contacted a naturopathic doctor. what > advice can you all offer me? i don't want my condition to get worse! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 all the doctor's want is $$$$ out of your pocket. google liver / gallbladder cleanse. Others will chime in here... From: maestramarquez <maestramarquez@...> Subject: I don't want surgery gallstones Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:00 PM i've been dealing w/gallstones for a while, but not until recently was it " bad. " i have multiple stones. the GI specialist says surgery is the only way. i'm desperately trying to research & make the best decision. i've spoken to a chiropractor and have contacted a naturopathic doctor. what advice can you all offer me? i don't want my condition to get worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 yes. From: Dan Kukulka <enemaguy@...> Subject: Re: I don't want surgery gallstones Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:16 PM are you shopping for opinions? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, maestramarquez <maestramarquez>wrote: > > > i've been dealing w/gallstones for a while, but not until recently was it > " bad. " i have multiple stones. the GI specialist says surgery is the only > way. i'm desperately trying to research & make the best decision. i've > spoken to a chiropractor and have contacted a naturopathic doctor. what > advice can you all offer me? i don't want my condition to get worse! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I have the same issue. Recently diagnosed with multiple gallstones and refusing the surgery. My naturopath dr. Gave me ton of supplements ( can give you a list if interested) but warned it will take more than year to help me. She doesn't believe in the flush - yes it cleans liver but doesn't flush out the gallstones - her opinion. So far have changed my diet, lost 30 pounds. I haven't had a courage yet to do a flush, but hopefully will try it soon. But I have to yet a meet someone who has it confirmed by before-and-after ultrasounds that it flushes out the gallstones. There is also this medication you can take for a year and it should dissolve it - but its very expensive and doctors don't like to give it, and the stones can't be calcified which can be ruled out by X-ray. This probably will be the route I will go once I stop breastfeeding. Also they used to test a method MTBE which dissolves stones in 2 days but I can't find a doctor who still does it - they all just cut your gallblader out. Good luck Karollina Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Re: I don't want surgery gallstones Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:16 PM are you shopping for opinions? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, maestramarquez <maestramarquez>wrote: > > > i've been dealing w/gallstones for a while, but not until recently was it > " bad. " i have multiple stones. the GI specialist says surgery is the only > way. i'm desperately trying to research & make the best decision. i've > spoken to a chiropractor and have contacted a naturopathic doctor. what > advice can you all offer me? i don't want my condition to get worse! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Karolina - please provide a list of the supplements your doctor has you on. Have you googled Hulda liver / gbladder cleanse? I look forward to see what your doctor told you to take... We all will talk and tell of our experiences - both successful and not so much. Jay in California From: Dan Kukulka <enemaguy@...> Subject: Re: I don't want surgery gallstones Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:16 PM are you shopping for opinions? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, maestramarquez <maestramarquez>wrote: > > > i've been dealing w/gallstones for a while, but not until recently was it > " bad. " i have multiple stones. the GI specialist says surgery is the only > way. i'm desperately trying to research & make the best decision. i've > spoken to a chiropractor and have contacted a naturopathic doctor. what > advice can you all offer me? i don't want my condition to get worse! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. > > > From: Dan Kukulka <enemaguy@...> > Subject: Re: I don't want surgery > gallstones > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:16 PM > > > > > > > are you shopping for opinions? > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, maestramarquez <maestramarquez@ >wrote: > > > > > > > i've been dealing w/gallstones for a while, but not until recently was it > > " bad. " i have multiple stones. the GI specialist says surgery is the only > > way. i'm desperately trying to research & make the best decision. i've > > spoken to a chiropractor and have contacted a naturopathic doctor. what > > advice can you all offer me? i don't want my condition to get worse! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 > > i've been dealing w/gallstones for a while, but not until recently was it " bad. " i have multiple stones. the GI specialist says surgery is the only way. i'm desperately trying to research & make the best decision. i've spoken to a chiropractor and have contacted a naturopathic doctor. what advice can you all offer me? i don't want my condition to get worse! > Start by researching, reading, studying and getting informed about how your body works and about the best possible nourishment you can consume. Also start learning everything you can about detoxification, especially liver/gall bladder flushes, which can be extremely beneficial for helping to heal people with gall bladder pain and stones. Slicing out essential body parts with a scalpel, IMO, is definitely not the answer to anyone's health challenges, so it's great that your intuition is telling you not to have surgery. Chronic ill health is something that arises within us for a reason. It's a sign of imbalance within, and the best way we can heal ourselves is to find ways of restoring our internal balance (homeostasis.) For anyone dealing with chronic disease, it's extremely important to nourish the body by consuming high quality nutrition, to stay hydrated by drinking plenty of pure water, to get enough rest, relaxation, sleep, physical activity fresh air and sunshine, and especially to detoxify the body. Most chronic disease comes about due to things like consuming diets over the long term that are deficient in certain key nutrients, chronic dehydration, a lack of physical activity, sleep and sunshine, compounded with an overload of stress and toxicity. Just remember that your body has an inherent healing wisdom. Your body's ability to heal and restore health is actually encoded right into your DNA. The best kept secret in the the western world when it comes to our health (or lack thereof) is that our bodies, when nourished, cleansed and cared for properly, have the potential to heal themselves! The medical/pharmaceutical establishment doesn't want people to know this, and does its best to keep people thinking that the only way we can treat chronic illness is with their very expensive (and toxic) drugs, their sharp knives and knife wielding surgeons, and their harmful radiation. I'm here to tell you this just isn't so, and there's a whole world of beneficial choices you can make to embark upon the path of healing instead of doing what the white coats tell you. Look through the files section of this list. Check out the links section too, and while you're at it, do some exploring of the archived messages, where you'll find a wealth of information. Check out curezone.com or .org online. They have a massive database of information about all kinds of cleanses, including liver/gall bladder flushes which will help to get you started on the path to learning how you can help restore your body to good health. Ask any questions you have here and the knowledgeable folks on this list will do their best to help guide you. Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Very well said! I have maintained for some time that over 90% of our ailments are due to what we put into our bodies primarily food, medicines, etc. You have added a few other things like lack of exercise, stress, etc. I agree with that, but we are killing ourselves with what we are putting our bodies. I didn't use to be as conscious about such things until I started having some health issues and decided to clean up my act. I did not know what a healthy diet really was! Walk into a grocery store and you see 95% unhealthy food and 5% healthy food. I never use to view it that way until I got educated. I thought that you could only get junk food at a fast-food restaurant. Boy, was I wrong! The obesity in this country is absolutely atrocious. People expect to abuse their bodies, then when they get sick, they hope that some medicine or medical procedure will bail them out. Many people just don't get it. They don't understand that they are in control of their own health. And others, do understand but choose to ignore it. Most of the people on this forum are choosing to control their own health. Good for you! I will get off of my soap box now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 > > I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. I've only had one GB attack and ended up in the hospital. Of course, Dr. wanted me to have surgery. I said I was going to go home and do some research first. I never had that surgery and have never had another attack. I understand that many people only have one attack. I did several flushes and passed stones for about a YEAR! Some were 3/4 inch. The flush softens the stones so there was no problem in passing them. Amber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I bet someone told you that the stones might be too large. I am somewhat tired of hearing that the stones are too large from experts like doctors. Just do a flush or two, then tell me what is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Hi la, I too have only had one attack. I take lecithin every day and I also take chanca piedra. There has been a lot of talk about chanca piedra on these boards that can be found in the archives. You can do several things before a flush to soften stones...orthophosphoric acid for one and apple juice are the two that come to mind. all the best, Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I have read that thay need to be less than 5mm. The duct is 1-2mm wide. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Re: I don't want surgery I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 > > Very well said! I have maintained for some time that over 90% of our ailments are due to what we put into our bodies primarily food, medicines, etc. > > You have added a few other things like lack of exercise, stress, etc. I agree with that, but we are killing ourselves with what we are putting our bodies. > We are, yes. The majority of our food supply has become industrialized, which has poisoned it with all the toxic chemicals used on crops and soil. The industrialization of our food has also created a whole new group of very highly processed products (I hesitate to call them foods) that are virtually devoid of any real nourishment, and from which the body simply cannot derive the kind of quality nutrition it requires to stay healthy and thrive. > I didn't use to be as conscious about such things until I started having some health issues and decided to clean up my act. I did not know what a healthy diet really was! > > Walk into a grocery store and you see 95% unhealthy food and 5% healthy food. I never use to view it that way until I got educated. I thought that you could only get junk food at a fast-food restaurant. Boy, was I wrong! Yes! Mainstream grocery stores are chock full of all kinds of extremely processed calorie-dense, nutrient-sparse junk. The fact that many people rely on this kind of stuff for their primary sustenance is probably the number one factor contributing to the explosion of chronic degenerative disease that's occurring in the west today. > > The obesity in this country is absolutely atrocious. People expect to abuse their bodies, then when they get sick, they hope that some medicine or medical procedure will bail them out. > Exactly. People don't realize it, but many of them are actually ever so slowly starving themselves to death by eating way too much food that provides little or no real usable nourishment for their bodies. They may eat plenty of food, but much of is empty. And yet their bodies are constantly craving proper nourishment, so these folks continually eat more and more of this dead, empty food and before they know it they're not only getting sick, but they're obese to boot! Then they take themselves to the white coats, who can only offer drugs and surgery - while never truly addressing the real root cause of the problem - and say fix me! > > Many people just don't get it. They don't understand that they are in control of their own health. You said it! Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 So, The KEY IS: What do we " DO " ? IN MY CASE, Research shows that the FIRST THING to do is to insure that our bodies tend toward the Alkaline side of things, with our BLOOD pH at or near 7.365, call it 7.4 That's both messy and expensive to measure, so urine pH is the next best thing, and THAT should be about 6.8 to 7.0 Dr. Dan, PhD Researcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 > > I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. > > Take a look at size of the stones people passed on this page: http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/ There are more here: http://curezone.com/ig/f.asp?f=13 As long as you do the proper flush protocol (Hulda 's is a good one) using several doses of epsom salt, which contains magnesium which relaxes and helps to dilate the biliary ducts, the stones should pass from the gall bladder into the duodenum painlessly. I've done more than a half dozen of these flushes, all of which have been completely painless, during which I have passed loads of stones and other gunk of all different shapes and sizes. Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 You can't blame the grocery stores, nor the fast food restaurants. If people didn't buy it, they wouldn't have it on the shelves. Most people don't want healthy food. That is the bottom line here. It is really tragic. A balanced diet to most people means balancing good food with bad food or in many cases balancing different types of bad foods. And related to prescription drugs, OTC medicines, surgeries, etc. people don't understand (or don't want to understand) that the real cure is in prevention. ....another tragedy. > > > > Very well said! I have maintained for some time that over 90% of our ailments are due to what we put into our bodies primarily food, medicines, etc. > > > > You have added a few other things like lack of exercise, stress, etc. I agree with that, but we are killing ourselves with what we are putting our bodies. > > > > > > > We are, yes. The majority of our food supply has become industrialized, which has poisoned it with all the toxic chemicals used on crops and soil. The industrialization of our food has also created a whole new group of very highly processed products (I hesitate to call them foods) that are virtually devoid of any real nourishment, and from which the body simply cannot derive the kind of quality nutrition it requires to stay healthy and thrive. > > > > > > > I didn't use to be as conscious about such things until I started having some health issues and decided to clean up my act. I did not know what a healthy diet really was! > > > > Walk into a grocery store and you see 95% unhealthy food and 5% healthy food. I never use to view it that way until I got educated. I thought that you could only get junk food at a fast-food restaurant. Boy, was I wrong! > > > > Yes! Mainstream grocery stores are chock full of all kinds of extremely processed calorie-dense, nutrient-sparse junk. The fact that many people rely on this kind of stuff for their primary sustenance is probably the number one factor contributing to the explosion of chronic degenerative disease that's occurring in the west today. > > > > > > > The obesity in this country is absolutely atrocious. People expect to abuse their bodies, then when they get sick, they hope that some medicine or medical procedure will bail them out. > > > > Exactly. > > People don't realize it, but many of them are actually ever so slowly starving themselves to death by eating way too much food that provides little or no real usable nourishment for their bodies. They may eat plenty of food, but much of is empty. And yet their bodies are constantly craving proper nourishment, so these folks continually eat more and more of this dead, empty food and before they know it they're not only getting sick, but they're obese to boot! Then they take themselves to the white coats, who can only offer drugs and surgery - while never truly addressing the real root cause of the problem - and say fix me! > > > > > > > > > Many people just don't get it. They don't understand that they are in control of their own health. > > > > You said it! > > > > Elan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 this is what my naturopath doctor gave me for gallstones: - Beta TCP 3 tablets 5xday - Betaine Plus HP 5 tablets before every meal - Phosphatidyl choline 2 teaspoons per day - Super Phosphozyme Luiquid 30drops 3xday - Pleo Sanuvis 30drops mornings Mo-Fr - Pleo Citro 30 drops nigths Mo-Fr - Pleo Nig 1 tablet night Mo-Fr - Pleo Muc 1 tablet morning Mo-Fr - Pleo Muc Ex 5 drops morning Sat-Su - Pleo Nig Ex 5 drops Evening Sat - Su - Rowachol 5drops before every meal - black raddish extract 10 mornings 2x year - multivitamins 3xday - flora tablets - castor oil heating packs 5x per week - elimination diet Karolina On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:21 PM, fjnie1234 <Fred.Niehaus@...>wrote: > > > You can't blame the grocery stores, nor the fast food restaurants. If > people didn't buy it, they wouldn't have it on the shelves. Most people > don't want healthy food. That is the bottom line here. It is really tragic. > > A balanced diet to most people means balancing good food with bad food or > in many cases balancing different types of bad foods. > > And related to prescription drugs, OTC medicines, surgeries, etc. people > don't understand (or don't want to understand) that the real cure is in > prevention. ...another tragedy. > > > > > > > > Very well said! I have maintained for some time that over 90% of our > ailments are due to what we put into our bodies primarily food, medicines, > etc. > > > > > > You have added a few other things like lack of exercise, stress, etc. I > agree with that, but we are killing ourselves with what we are putting our > bodies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are, yes. The majority of our food supply has become industrialized, > which has poisoned it with all the toxic chemicals used on crops and soil. > The industrialization of our food has also created a whole new group of very > highly processed products (I hesitate to call them foods) that are virtually > devoid of any real nourishment, and from which the body simply cannot derive > the kind of quality nutrition it requires to stay healthy and thrive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't use to be as conscious about such things until I started > having some health issues and decided to clean up my act. I did not know > what a healthy diet really was! > > > > > > Walk into a grocery store and you see 95% unhealthy food and 5% healthy > food. I never use to view it that way until I got educated. I thought that > you could only get junk food at a fast-food restaurant. Boy, was I wrong! > > > > > > > > Yes! Mainstream grocery stores are chock full of all kinds of extremely > processed calorie-dense, nutrient-sparse junk. The fact that many people > rely on this kind of stuff for their primary sustenance is probably the > number one factor contributing to the explosion of chronic degenerative > disease that's occurring in the west today. > > > > > > > > > > > > The obesity in this country is absolutely atrocious. People expect to > abuse their bodies, then when they get sick, they hope that some medicine or > medical procedure will bail them out. > > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > People don't realize it, but many of them are actually ever so slowly > starving themselves to death by eating way too much food that provides > little or no real usable nourishment for their bodies. They may eat plenty > of food, but much of is empty. And yet their bodies are constantly craving > proper nourishment, so these folks continually eat more and more of this > dead, empty food and before they know it they're not only getting sick, but > they're obese to boot! Then they take themselves to the white coats, who can > only offer drugs and surgery - while never truly addressing the real root > cause of the problem - and say fix me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people just don't get it. They don't understand that they are in > control of their own health. > > > > > > > > You said it! > > > > > > > > Elan > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 stop talking about size of stones - or go to the doctor and get your GB removed already... From: elan_spire <elan_spire@...> Subject: Re: I don't want surgery gallstones Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:15 AM > > I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. > > Take a look at size of the stones people passed on this page: http://curezone. com/cleanse/ liver/ There are more here: http://curezone. com/ig/f. asp?f=13 As long as you do the proper flush protocol (Hulda 's is a good one) using several doses of epsom salt, which contains magnesium which relaxes and helps to dilate the biliary ducts, the stones should pass from the gall bladder into the duodenum painlessly. I've done more than a half dozen of these flushes, all of which have been completely painless, during which I have passed loads of stones and other gunk of all different shapes and sizes. Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Jay, you are rude! ________________________________ From: Jay Grosflam <jgrosflam@...> gallstones Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 3:24:58 PM Subject: Re: Re: I don't want surgery stop talking about size of stones - or go to the doctor and get your GB removed already... From: elan_spire <elan_spire (DOT) com> Subject: Re: I don't want surgery gallstones@gro ups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:15 AM --- In gallstones@gro ups.com, " maestramarquez " <maestramarquez@ ...> wrote: > > I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. > > Take a look at size of the stones people passed on this page: http://curezone. com/cleanse/ liver/ There are more here: http://curezone. com/ig/f. asp?f=13 As long as you do the proper flush protocol (Hulda 's is a good one) using several doses of epsom salt, which contains magnesium which relaxes and helps to dilate the biliary ducts, the stones should pass from the gall bladder into the duodenum painlessly. I've done more than a half dozen of these flushes, all of which have been completely painless, during which I have passed loads of stones and other gunk of all different shapes and sizes. Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Jay, did you have gallstones and did you flush them out? Did ultrasound confirmed your GB is free of them now? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Re: I don't want surgery gallstones@gro ups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:15 AM --- In gallstones@gro ups.com, " maestramarquez " <maestramarquez@ ...> wrote: > > I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. > > Take a look at size of the stones people passed on this page: http://curezone. com/cleanse/ liver/ There are more here: http://curezone. com/ig/f. asp?f=13 As long as you do the proper flush protocol (Hulda 's is a good one) using several doses of epsom salt, which contains magnesium which relaxes and helps to dilate the biliary ducts, the stones should pass from the gall bladder into the duodenum painlessly. I've done more than a half dozen of these flushes, all of which have been completely painless, during which I have passed loads of stones and other gunk of all different shapes and sizes. Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I have not had a second ultrasound. But what happens is that the oldest and most forward stones near the opening go out first. Then the next oldest stones move forward to take the place of the stones that were expelled. And it keeps going on... There were some people here who did a b4 and after ultrasound. I do the cleanings because afterwards I feel very energized, and the brown, gray, sludge, and green blobs keep coming out. I also do the parasite, kidney, etc... cleanings according to Hulda . Jay From: elan_spire <elan_spire@ . com> Subject: Re: I don't want surgery gallstones@gro ups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:15 AM --- In gallstones@gro ups.com, " maestramarquez " <maestramarquez@ ...> wrote: > > I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. > > Take a look at size of the stones people passed on this page: http://curezone. com/cleanse/ liver/ There are more here: http://curezone. com/ig/f. asp?f=13 As long as you do the proper flush protocol (Hulda 's is a good one) using several doses of epsom salt, which contains magnesium which relaxes and helps to dilate the biliary ducts, the stones should pass from the gall bladder into the duodenum painlessly. I've done more than a half dozen of these flushes, all of which have been completely painless, during which I have passed loads of stones and other gunk of all different shapes and sizes. Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 The duct is quite elastic and stones much larger may be eliminated. For very large stones attempts at dissolution or diminishing first before a flush may be prudent. -D Re: I don't want surgery I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 It is not painful to pass stones from the GB and liver, as it is from the kidneys. I have just done a flush and moved some stones that are about the size of a large marble. I have felt so good today and been out of pain. This is a blessing. It is never wise to remove any organ of the body when there are natural ways to heal it. --- In gallstones , " manuellaboure2004 " <amber@...> wrote: > > --- In gallstones , " maestramarquez " maestramarquez@ wrote: > > > > I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. > > I've only had one GB attack and ended up in the hospital. Of course, Dr. wanted me to have surgery. I said I was going to go home and do some research first. I never had that surgery and have never had another attack. I understand that many people only have one attack. I did several flushes and passed stones for about a YEAR! Some were 3/4 inch. The flush softens the stones so there was no problem in passing them. > > Amber > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 the common bile duct can stretch out just like the intestinal tract. So size of the stones shouldn't be a concern. However hardness and sharpness of a stone should be addressed by doing the proper preperation protocol b4 a flush. Messing around with magnets under my matress ill let you guys know how this changes my health. Brad > > I have read that thay need to be less than 5mm. The duct is 1-2mm wide. > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > Re: I don't want surgery > > > I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 interesting...magnets! yes, please let us know....thank you brad ________________________________ From: ontarioguy2334 <ontarioguy2334@...> gallstones Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:33:44 PM Subject: Re: I don't want surgery the common bile duct can stretch out just like the intestinal tract. So size of the stones shouldn't be a concern. However hardness and sharpness of a stone should be addressed by doing the proper preperation protocol b4 a flush. Messing around with magnets under my matress ill let you guys know how this changes my health. Brad > > I have read that thay need to be less than 5mm. The duct is 1-2mm wide. > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > Re: I don't want surgery > > > I've read a lot on the flushes, but doesn't it depend on the size of the stones? What if it/they are too large to safely flush? I don't know what size mine are. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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