liver flush

[Guest guest]

That is really amazing, Karma. Someone else told me they used homozon on their

young daughter and she passed stones. And she was really young. I think around

two years old, as I recall. Pretty amazing. I always thought this was

something that occcurred when we got older.

liver flush

Hi Everyone,

I don't remember if I posted about my daughter and her cleanse. .. . .

~Karma

http

[Guest guest]

Congratulations to your husband! I did the cleanse this past weekend also

and had no where near those kind of results. I passed about 10 or less

(can't remember now) the size of a pinky nail and a bunch of little beads

and a lot of sludgy stuff I contributed to the oil. Well maybe if I try it

again sometime it will work better for me.

Ann

>From: " Karma Tucker " <karma@...>

>Reply-bowel cleanse

><bowel cleanse >, " Gallstonesgroups (DOT) Com "

><gallstones >, <moreoxygen >

>Subject: liver flush

>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:22:23 -0500

>

>Hi Everyone,

>My husband just did a Dr. liver cleans this past weekend. This is

>his

>second one. He was having allergy problems again, so decided to do that

>cleanse. He said he successfully passed well over 1,000 stones. He said

>he

>feels better. One thing we do after the cleanse is take large doses of

>milk

>thistle. That seems to really help.

>

>I don't remember if I posted about my daughter and her cleanse. She is

>ten,

>but has had allergies and asthma for quite some time. When she was a baby,

>she had trouble getting her bowels moving even though I nursed her. My

>husband's grandfather said that her bile was slow to kick in. I have

>wondered if these things were reasons that she had allergies and asthma.

>About a month ago, maybe a little longer, she was having some really bad

>asthma problems. I was having to put her on the nebulizing machine each

>night for several treatments. I was beginning to think I was going to have

>to take her to the emergency room because we couldn't get her airways

>opened

>up. Each night was getting worse, so we decided to give her a liver

>cleanse. It was a pretty rough night for her even though we gave her the

>Ornithine capsules. She kept the olive oil down for a few hours, then

>threw

>it up, which was discouraging to me. I thought we had wasted our time.

>But

>the next morning, she started passing HUGE stones. I had done three

>cleanses prior to this, so knew what she was going to go through. Her

>stones were much larger than anything I passed though. She passed hundreds

>of small ones, but the most amazing thing was the amount of large ones she

>passed. If you put your forefinger and thumb together to form a circle

>that

>is an idea of the size of stones she passed. I'm saying at they were over

>1

>1/2 " in diameter. She passed about 15 of them this size and one that was

>even bigger. It was about the size of a golf ball!!! I was teasing her

>that her liver wasn't even as big at these HUGE things coming out of her.

>The most important thing about it was that she hasn't had an asthma attack

>since! That is incredible.

>

>Another benefit that I have notice from both of them, plus myself is weight

>coming off. My daughter lost about ten pounds, which put her right where

>she needed to be for her age and height. My husband lost weight, but it is

>too soon to see if it will stay off. :-)

>

>~Karma

>http://loaves-n-fishes.com

>http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com

>

_________________________________________________________________

Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/08/2002 11:50:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

ejohns9525@... writes:

<< When you all you the liver/gallbladder flush, do you just use the epson

salt

that you soak sore feet in? Is there another kind?

Edith >>

That's the one Edith. And it does not taste to good either:-))

Christel

[Guest guest]

Interesting.... but doen't that stuff say internal use only? I had thought

there were two different kinds of epson salts?

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

> When you all you the liver/gallbladder flush, do you just use the Epson salt

> that you soak sore feet in? Is there another kind?

I don't know how many types of Epsom salts there are. In Dr. 's flush, I

used fresh squeezed grapefruit juice and it was much more tolerable, actually it

was fine. Dr. 's flush is on the curezone link at the bottom of the

e-mail. I hope this helps.

God bless,

KJ

[Guest guest]

It has been suggested that you use freshly squezzed

grapefruit juice and Olive oil, due to the fact that

when you shack these two together they will mix into a

somewhat horrible drink yet not as horrible as just

plain oil. The epson salts are enouph to make you weze

by itself, so if you make it through one of these

flushes congradulations you are now part of the club.

I have done three so far.

c.

--- isell_discoverytoys <kenshireen@...>

wrote:

> Should olive oil or flaxseed oil be used with a

> lemon for the liver

> flush?

>

>

__________________________________________________

- We Remember

9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost

http://dir.remember./tribute

[Guest guest]

Is it OK to take epson salts internally?

Re: Liver Flush

It has been suggested that you use freshly squezzedgrapefruit juice and Olive oil, due to the fact thatwhen you shack these two together they will mix into asomewhat horrible drink yet not as horrible as justplain oil. The epson salts are enouph to make you wezeby itself, so if you make it through one of theseflushes congradulations you are now part of the club. I have done three so far.c. --- isell_discoverytoys <kenshireen@...>wrote:> Should olive oil or flaxseed oil be used with a> lemon for the liver > flush?> > __________________________________________________ - We Remember9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives losthttp://dir.remember./tribute

[Guest guest]

I would follow the guidelines outlined in the book,

" The cure for all diseases " .p552

" There was a sang in a casino they used to say, you

gotta pay to play "

--- ken schwartz <kenshireen@...> wrote:

> Is it OK to take epson salts internally?

> Re: Liver Flush

>

>

> It has been suggested that you use freshly

> squezzed

> grapefruit juice and Olive oil, due to the fact

> that

> when you shack these two together they will mix

> into a

> somewhat horrible drink yet not as horrible as

> just

> plain oil. The epson salts are enouph to make you

> weze

> by itself, so if you make it through one of these

> flushes congradulations you are now part of the

> club.

> I have done three so far.

>

> c.

>

> --- isell_discoverytoys <kenshireen@...>

> wrote:

> > Should olive oil or flaxseed oil be used with a

> > lemon for the liver

> > flush?

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

> - We Remember

> 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost

> http://dir.remember./tribute

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/20/2003 4:16:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kolabear141@... writes:

> squeeze juice into the jar which should be shaken well and then the mix

> drunk very quickly with a straw

Yes...just make sure olive oil & Pink grapefruit juice are room temp....shake

vigorously, & it will stay mixed longer!

It was tastier then the Epson salts & grapefruit combo.

Second flush didn't produce as many or as large of stones as my first...but I

was pleased. I did cut back on the Epson salts to 4 teaspoons rather then 4

tablespoons....maybe that is why?

Pain has faded on upper right side this week! YEA!!!

My hubby wants to do his second go-round.....

[Guest guest]

I use a black and Decker hand blender which really does a better job than just

shaking.

I then use a straw. It really doesn't taste that bad that way. I can not eat

olive oil

otherwise.

glenda

amourmaltese@... wrote:

> In a message dated 3/20/2003 4:16:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> kolabear141@... writes:

>

> > squeeze juice into the jar which should be shaken well and then the mix

> > drunk very quickly with a straw

>

> Yes...just make sure olive oil & Pink grapefruit juice are room temp....shake

> vigorously, & it will stay mixed longer!

> It was tastier then the Epson salts & grapefruit combo.

> Second flush didn't produce as many or as large of stones as my first...but I

> was pleased. I did cut back on the Epson salts to 4 teaspoons rather then 4

> tablespoons....maybe that is why?

> Pain has faded on upper right side this week! YEA!!!

> My hubby wants to do his second go-round.....

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I want to take a poll:

>

> Who has done the olive oil / grapefruit liver cleanses? It seems

there is

> much controversy surrounding the procedure. Some say its worthless

and

> dangerous, others say it is very helpful. I'm referring to the

" Hulda

> cleanse " where you take epsom salt, and then lots of olive oil /

grapefruit,

> hoping to expell " gallstones " via a massive " dumping " of bile, which

is

> supposed to be carried away by the epsom salt action (laxative).

>

> Opinions?

The actual situation is as follows:

It IS very risky. It can make you horribly worse for a long time.

If it doesn't hurt you it does often help. But for only a limited

period of time, though it can be a few months of relief.

The " gallstones " are not gallstones, they are saponified olive oil.

One of the risks of this procedure is that you do it when you actually

do have gallstones and you precipitate a severe gall bladder attack.

Andy . . . . . . . . . .

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynne;

I was kidding of course - after learning of the risks, people would

rather risk the flush rather than the alternatives.

Even 12-years olds get hepatic stones and it's a great idea to get

them out of there to ensure the liver is not impeded.

Normal liver enzymes are a good indicator that if you get stones out

there shouldn't be any difficulties in that area. If you are killing

a lot of bacteria or candida, it will somewhat deplete glutathione in

the liver and an antioxidant program including cold-processed whey

isolate and selenium will provide the liver support you need.

Duncan Crow

> >

> > On the other hand, keeping your stones can cause necrotic spots

and

> > blockages in the liver, can necessitate gallbladder surgery, or

> > worse, backed up bile fluids, which can even cause pancreas

damage

> > and cancer of the pancreas if that's what you'd prefer.

> >

> > Duncan Crow

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

ooops...meant to send this directly to Betsy

On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 16:16:39 -0700

slethnobotanist@... wrote:

>

> http://www.curezone.com/schulze/handbook/foundprog4.asp

>

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 23:25:55 +0000 (GMT)

Joanne Pollack <jopollack2001@...> wrote:

>

>*sigh* yet another reason to do the liver flush! I

>guess I'll just hav to bite the bullet and go for

>it.... I'm not good at coping with hunger, which I

>imagine is what I'll have to do on the liver flush as

>it's low fat.

>

Jo,

what liver flush protocol do you have in mind?

Abolish the FDA!!

http://tinyurl.com/25nu8

" They told just the same,

That just because a tyrant has the might

By force of arms to murder men downright

And burn down house and home and leave all flat

They call the man a captain, just for that.

But since an outlaw with his little band

Cannot bring half such mischief on the land

Or be the cause of so much harm and grief,

He only earns the title of a thief. "

--Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale

[Guest guest]

--- slethnobotanist@... wrote: >

>

> what liver flush protocol do you have in mind?

>

>

Hmmm, now you're asking! I think it is Hulda 's

- I can't remember the URL, but it's posted here quite

frequently. It involves Epsom Salts, olive oil and

lemon juice.

Jo

___________________________________________________________

BT Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80

http://bt..co.uk

[Guest guest]

>*sigh* yet another reason to do the liver flush! I

>guess I'll just hav to bite the bullet and go for

>it.... I'm not good at coping with hunger, which I

>imagine is what I'll have to do on the liver flush as

>it's low fat.

Jo, the Hulda method only means skipping dinner. You drink epsom salts at

6pm and 8pm and this takes away any hunger. So it's only 2pm ~ 6pm that you

might go hungry. The day of prep you shouldn't have fat to allow the bile to

build up but you can eat stuff like oatmeal if you need to be filled up.

Filippa

[Guest guest]

Toast isn't bread? Or did you eat bread again just for that day, like

you ate more fruit than normal?

Anja

since i don't eat bread anymore and only a half piece of fruit or so a

day, i thought this would be super enjoyable. i had toast with peach

jam, an apple, and a pear for breakfast (and tea) and a pear, a

banana, a kiwi, some lacto-kraut, and some olive foccacia for lunch.

and man. it just *failed* to satisfy!

> -katja

[Guest guest]

Yes keep us posted Katja. I usually just have fruit on the day of the flush.

Depends how your hunger tolerance is. You won't feel hungry after you drink the

epsom salts. Good luck, I'll be thinking of you.

Filippa

[Guest guest]

yeah - i'm just eating bread for today

At 05:29 PM 2/15/2004, you wrote:

>Toast isn't bread? Or did you eat bread again just for that day, like

>you ate more fruit than normal?

>Anja

>

>

>since i don't eat bread anymore and only a half piece of fruit or so a

>day, i thought this would be super enjoyable. i had toast with peach

>jam, an apple, and a pear for breakfast (and tea) and a pear, a

>banana, a kiwi, some lacto-kraut, and some olive foccacia for lunch.

>and man. it just *failed* to satisfy!

> > -katja

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

T minus 15 minutes to epsom salts!

At 05:39 PM 2/15/2004, you wrote:

>Yes keep us posted Katja. I usually just have fruit on the day of the

>flush. Depends how your hunger tolerance is. You won't feel hungry after

>you drink the epsom salts. Good luck, I'll be thinking of you.

>

>Filippa

>

>

[Guest guest]

When I first was diagnosed a friend was telling me about a liver flush but the tx clinic nixed it at least for my stage of the disease as it required a functional liver and could be very hard on a cirrhotic one. I never looked any further at it after that. I rather think it's for a functioning liver and it's a natruopathic way to flush it out as part of a whole system revamp. Correct me if I'm wrong - it has been awhile and my brain only functions at partial capacity anymore

Amy

[Guest guest]

Deb,

I guess some people get antsy and can't sleep during a liver flush.

I've done 3 so far and haven't had any trouble sleeping at all. I

usually go to bed at ten and rise at six anyway so the timing works

well with my body rythm.

Deborah

[Guest guest]

>

> Could someone tell me what olnithine capsules are. I was reading

> about the liver flush and it said to take them to make sure you slept.

> Can you tell me what they are and if they are absolutely necessary.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Debbie

A misprint perhaps? Ornithine, similar to Arginine, an amino acid?

These are two of the growth hormone and muscle-building aminos; they

promote the release of nitric oxide. The science of nitric oxide is

on my website.

regards,

Duncan Crow

wholistics consultant

---

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/

see more of my articles on:

http://zeek.ca/4u/mod.php?mod=userpage & menu=200 & page_id=3

#410, 2556 Dingwall St

Duncan BC

Canada V9L 2Y9

250-748-6967

--- live and help live... ---

[Guest guest]

Can anyone tell me If s liver salts are the same as epsom salts? I can’t find epsom salts where I live (England)

[Guest guest]

Re: Re: liver flushFrom: Isabel

>Can anyone tell me If s liver salts are the same as epsom salts? I can't

find epsom salts where I live (England)

Hi Isabel, I did a little googling for you:

http://bnf.org/bnf/bnf/current/noframes/2250.htm

-s Liver Salts® (citric acid, magnesium sulphate, sodium bicarbonate)

Epsom salts are magnesium sulfate so the liver salts are that and citric acid as

well as sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

I don't know if it would work as well in a liver flush, perhaps someone else

could say.

Epsom salts are named after a mineral spring in England btw.

" The name is derived from a bitter saline spring at

Epsom, Surrey, England, which contains the salt in solution. "

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0009982.html

Bruce