Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 I was on the anti-candida diet( and basically still am)for about 6 months. Then I did my first liver flush recently, following strict instructions from the s Moritz book. The results were pretty amazing in that there indeed were expelled all these stones from the liver. I was skeptical going into this procedure. I am feeling 99% normal. I think a large part of my improvement was the diet. But I seemed to plateau on the diet. Feeling ok, but not like I was 20 years old (digestion-wise). The liver flush has absolutely put me over the top and back to almost normal. I still hasve a little gas. But nothing tthat keeps me awake like before. The book clearly stresses that one flush is not enough--there needs to be multiple flushes to and then ongoing maintenance. I now know I'm on the right track. Get the book. It's a life altering event. But I'd still clean up my diet for a bit before doing the flush. I did and things went according to plan. > > > OK, after a weekend of consuming anything I wanted I fell horrible > and have finally decided to take this seriously. I am a couple of > days into a no yeast / no carb diet and so far so good. > > Curious as to the groups suggestions on a Liver flush. Over the past > several weeks have at times felt toxic and have wondered if my poor > body was overloaded with junk. > > So my questions are: > > Do flushes work better early or later in a diet? > > Are they typically done more than once? > > Where can I get the specific instructions? > > Any tips from those of you that have tried this, would be > appreciated. > > > Thanks Much > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Do you know if you can do this liver flush while nursing a toddler? I've done a colonic and am doing ozone therapy. Re: Liver Flush I was on the anti-candida diet( and basically still am)for about 6 months. Then I did my first liver flush recently, following strict instructions from the s Moritz book. The results were pretty amazing in that there indeed were expelled all these stones from the liver. I was skeptical going into this procedure. I am feeling 99% normal. I think a large part of my improvement was the diet. But I seemed to plateau on the diet. Feeling ok, but not like I was 20 years old (digestion-wise). The liver flush has absolutely put me over the top and back to almost normal. I still hasve a little gas. But nothing tthat keeps me awake like before. The book clearly stresses that one flush is not enough--there needs to be multiple flushes to and then ongoing maintenance. I now know I'm on the right track. Get the book. It's a life altering event. But I'd still clean up my diet for a bit before doing the flush. I did and things went according to plan. > > > OK, after a weekend of consuming anything I wanted I fell horrible > and have finally decided to take this seriously. I am a couple of > days into a no yeast / no carb diet and so far so good. > > Curious as to the groups suggestions on a Liver flush. Over the past > several weeks have at times felt toxic and have wondered if my poor > body was overloaded with junk. > > So my questions are: > > Do flushes work better early or later in a diet? > > Are they typically done more than once? > > Where can I get the specific instructions? > > Any tips from those of you that have tried this, would be > appreciated. > > > Thanks Much > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Hi : There's a bit of a debate about the order of cleanses, etc. I did a kidney cleanse and a parasite cleanse and then started the liver cleansing ('ve now done 5). I only started the bowel cleanse a couple of weeks ago (although I did clean up my diet from the beginning - that's a must in order to get anywhere) 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Liver Flush > > I asked the same questions last week , and the overall > response I got was to make sure my bowels are working > properly prior to doing any other flushes. I am still > working on that so I do not have any further advice. > Good Luck and be safe :-)) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 Hello Frans, Dr. Hulda is certainly not nuts. The quackbusters did have to take their accusations back in court. Did you ever use her *liver cleaning* ? Without having done that, you may not have an opinion about that. Furthermore, her bioresonance frequencies do work very well. I can attest to that. You obviously did not look at the corresponding pages on my website. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus liver flush > > > > > > Here is the page about liver stones and flushing (nico photo's): > http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/default.asp > > Here is how absurd the ideas of Hulda are: > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.html > > Maybe the flushing recipe does something, but is nuts, no > doubt. > > What about the zapper? > > And how should flushing and the zapper cure hf or lf radiation > sickness, or maybe even x-ray radiation sickness? > > Frans > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 Dear , just reread the parts of the books by Hulda on her website. Find out that the German site is run by Amrein, scientologist. Read about scientology at http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/ That the quackbusters had to take back their accusations does not prove that Hulda is not nuts. The 'liver cleaning' is not invented by , it is a traditional recipe to clean your inside. How did you find out that the zapper works? Frans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 > How did you find out that the zapper works? Note that the zapper may not be a good thing for ES people to try. I know of one person on another list who claimed they became ES after having using a zapper. I bought a zapper several years ago, tried it, and it didn't seem to do anything for me, so I stopped using it. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 Frans, As a FORMER Scientologist, I can vouch for the good people that are in Scientology for the right reasons. There is some great technology used as a hook to get people like me to join. Fortunately I met a few of the higher ups that had " blown " out of Scientology and they shared some information with me that made me immediately " blow " . So, implying something like if you are a Scientologist means that you are immediately not credible is a short sighted statement. I would like us to focus on what works in both health and in our lives and not focus on the fringe aspects that throw the baby out with the bath water. I do use the Zapper and have seen physical results. I am not going to try to prove that Hulda is anything, but I will say that everyone has something to offer and it is up to each one of us to decide for ourselves what works for ourselves. The worst thing that can happen is for us to attack each other. That is an old tactic used in many wars, political movements, religions, etc in order to disintegrate a unified movement or thought concept from within. I enjoy having a list were people post what works and doesn't work for themselves. And yes, there are many different recipes for a liver cleanse or a gall bladder flush. No patent pending on those. Thank you Marc for keeping this conversation focused on healthy trial and error. On Jan 1, 2005, at 10:13 AM, franspppp wrote: > > > Dear , > > just reread the parts of the books by Hulda on her website. > Find out that the German site is run by Amrein, > scientologist. Read about scientology at > http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/ > > That the quackbusters had to take back their accusations does not > prove that Hulda is not nuts. The 'liver cleaning' is not > invented by , it is a traditional recipe to clean your inside. > > How did you find out that the zapper works? > > Frans > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 Hello Frans, you wander into sideways and get off the main road. Dr. Hulda is a famous american doctor, who does not sell anything. She only gives advise and writes in her numerous books. Amrein is just somebody who is selling the products according to the standards by Hulda . There are several companies who sell those products. I am not interested in the religious beliefs of all those persons. It does not matter. I have several books of Hulda and have read them. I own several types of Zappers. But I mainly use a special frequency generator which contains all the frequencies (as well as the Royal Rife frequencies) and I am very satisfied with their working against a great number of illnesses. It is all on http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina161.html It is very arrogant and foolish to state that Hulda is nuts, if you never have had any experience with it. Bioresonance works fine and effectively. Quackbusters are everywhere, and they are paid by the pharmaceutical industry, who see the alternatives as a menace to their business. A lot of drugs simply do not work, contary to alternative homeopathy. The official trend is to kill all homeopathy. Even as per 1 Juli 2005, a number of five thousand food supplements are forbidden to be sold in Europe, by law from Brussels. Because Vitamins can heal you, and that is not what the general policy has in mind. Antibiotics only work in ca 8 % of the cases. Colliodal Silver works much better. After 9/11, the danger of Anthrax loomed and the Americans wanted Bayer to make their patents free so that US companies could also make a special drug. But many found that CZ is a very cheap alternative. Then the FDA regarded the CS as a drug and in the US nobody was allowed anymore to offer it for sale on the US websites. I also make CS myself and am very satisfied with the results. So it is no fairytale that CS works fine. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Re: liver flush > > > Dear , > > just reread the parts of the books by Hulda on her website. > Find out that the German site is run by Amrein, > scientologist. Read about scientology at > http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/ > > That the quackbusters had to take back their accusations does not > prove that Hulda is not nuts. The 'liver cleaning' is not > invented by , it is a traditional recipe to clean your inside. > > How did you find out that the zapper works? > > Frans > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 There are many things in the environment that you could be allergic in addition to mites, parasites, bacteria, etc. can cause those reactions. With out knowing more about the specific symptoms or conditions, your body is in a reaction for a good reason. Remove as many chemicals as you can from your life like from soaps, make-up, cleaners, laundry detergent, softeners, etc. If your body friend has an apartment or new house, the carpets, paint, wall could be " off gassing " chemicals. In any case, you have got to get your liver, kidneys, lymphatic system in top shape to deal with the environment. In addition to cleanses, building and boosting your immune system is crucial to surviving and flourishing. Experiment with sleeping another place for a night or two and see if the symptoms change. Trouble shoot this until you can recognize the " causative " factors. Pets? my best to you, On Jan 4, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Jsverdlove@... wrote: > > john m- > you wrote that you did liver flushes. could you share what you did > and if > you were under a doctor's care? I was doing fairly well for a while > and feel > like i've been crashing since christmas time...not sure if b/c slipped > up on > diet, moved in with boyfriend who has gas heat, something about the > supplements? > but i feel more toxic and am thinking about liver cleanse now. > > also - if anyone knows what causes inflammation, besides emf (which > i've been > avoiding) and knows how to reduce, i'm very interested. all my > joints, back, > wrist, everything hurting and this is new...a bit scared. also > itching all > the time (not dry skin) - like if any fabric touches skin, my skin > itches > there?? > > may this be a healthy new year for all of us - thank you to the group > for so > much shared knowledge > > thanks > jill > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Jill, High level of antioxidants can help with inflamation in many cases. Immunocal HMS-90 (www.viruscontrols.com) has helped me from chemical toxicity with heavy meds. It is a great detoxifier/antioxidant and builds strong immune system. Glenn >From: Jsverdlove@... >Reply- > >Subject: liver flush >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:32:26 EST > >john m- >you wrote that you did liver flushes. could you share what you did and if >you were under a doctor's care? I was doing fairly well for a while and >feel >like i've been crashing since christmas time...not sure if b/c slipped up >on >diet, moved in with boyfriend who has gas heat, something about the >supplements? >but i feel more toxic and am thinking about liver cleanse now. > >also - if anyone knows what causes inflammation, besides emf (which i've >been >avoiding) and knows how to reduce, i'm very interested. all my joints, >back, >wrist, everything hurting and this is new...a bit scared. also itching all >the time (not dry skin) - like if any fabric touches skin, my skin itches >there?? > >may this be a healthy new year for all of us - thank you to the group for >so >much shared knowledge > >thanks >jill > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hulda s formula is basically what I've used. Nothing to eat after noon. One tablespoon of epsom salts in a glass of water at 6pm, 8pm, then a cup of fresh squeezed pulpless grapefruit juice mixed with one cup of olive oil at 10pm. Lie down on your back immediately with a pillow under your head & go to sleep. When you first wake up in the morning another glass of epsom salts, & a last one 2 hours later. Then crap out everything in you. liver flush john m- you wrote that you did liver flushes. could you share what you did and if you were under a doctor's care? I was doing fairly well for a while and feel like i've been crashing since christmas time...not sure if b/c slipped up on diet, moved in with boyfriend who has gas heat, something about the supplements? but i feel more toxic and am thinking about liver cleanse now. also - if anyone knows what causes inflammation, besides emf (which i've been avoiding) and knows how to reduce, i'm very interested. all my joints, back, wrist, everything hurting and this is new...a bit scared. also itching all the time (not dry skin) - like if any fabric touches skin, my skin itches there?? may this be a healthy new year for all of us - thank you to the group for so much shared knowledge thanks jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I'd like to add to that 3 to 5 days prior to the Oil ceremony, drink a quart or more of organic apple juice (pectin) and 90-135 drops or Ortho PHOS drops a day in addition to regular meals. This softens the stones into a puddy like state so they don't get stuck or tear your insides as the move out. A colon cleanse before and after the process is especially helpful to make sure nothing gets stuck. Of course, rebuild the intestinal bacteria and an extra would be to zap the parasites before the cleanse so they release hold of the metals, open the tubes and are flushed out. On Jan 4, 2005, at 7:47 PM, john wrote: > > Hulda s formula is basically what I've used. Nothing to eat after > noon. One tablespoon of epsom salts in a glass of water at 6pm, 8pm, > then a cup of fresh squeezed pulpless grapefruit juice mixed with one > cup of olive oil at 10pm. Lie down on your back immediately with a > pillow under your head & go to sleep. When you first wake up in the > morning another glass of epsom salts, & a last one 2 hours later. Then > crap out everything in you. > liver flush > > > john m- > you wrote that you did liver flushes. could you share what you did > and if > you were under a doctor's care? I was doing fairly well for a while > and feel > like i've been crashing since christmas time...not sure if b/c > slipped up on > diet, moved in with boyfriend who has gas heat, something about the > supplements? > but i feel more toxic and am thinking about liver cleanse now. > > also - if anyone knows what causes inflammation, besides emf (which > i've been > avoiding) and knows how to reduce, i'm very interested. all my > joints, back, > wrist, everything hurting and this is new...a bit scared. also > itching all > the time (not dry skin) - like if any fabric touches skin, my skin > itches > there?? > > may this be a healthy new year for all of us - thank you to the > group for so > much shared knowledge > > thanks > jill > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 There is lots of information and a forum at www.curezone.com. There are also faqs about various types of flushes. Thanks, Alan > john m- > you wrote that you did liver flushes. could you share what you did and if > you were under a doctor's care? I was doing fairly well for a while and feel > like i've been crashing since christmas time...not sure if b/c slipped up on > diet, moved in with boyfriend who has gas heat, something about the supplements? > but i feel more toxic and am thinking about liver cleanse now. > > also - if anyone knows what causes inflammation, besides emf (which i've been > avoiding) and knows how to reduce, i'm very interested. all my joints, back, > wrist, everything hurting and this is new...a bit scared. also itching all > the time (not dry skin) - like if any fabric touches skin, my skin itches > there?? > > may this be a healthy new year for all of us - thank you to the group for so > much shared knowledge > > thanks > jill > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Alan, Do you know a lot of people that have done liver flush. Anybody with hep C? I wonder what their experience is? Thanks. --- abailey63 <abailey63@...> wrote: > > There is lots of information and a forum at > www.curezone.com. There > are also faqs about various types of flushes. > > Thanks, Alan > > > > john m- > > you wrote that you did liver flushes. could you > share what you did > and if > > you were under a doctor's care? I was doing > fairly well for a while > and feel > > like i've been crashing since christmas time...not > sure if b/c > slipped up on > > diet, moved in with boyfriend who has gas heat, > something about the > supplements? > > but i feel more toxic and am thinking about liver > cleanse now. > > > > also - if anyone knows what causes inflammation, > besides emf (which > i've been > > avoiding) and knows how to reduce, i'm very > interested. all my > joints, back, > > wrist, everything hurting and this is new...a bit > scared. also > itching all > > the time (not dry skin) - like if any fabric > touches skin, my skin > itches > > there?? > > > > may this be a healthy new year for all of us - > thank you to the > group for so > > much shared knowledge > > > > thanks > > jill > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Hi Susie: Welcome to our friendly helpful group and thanks for sharing your story with us. We can all identify with your history, your suffering and your quest for answers. Like Carol suggests please do read my article " How to Successfully Overcome Candida " - it will give you the basic understanding of what we recommend, and may tell you some things you might not know. >So it's a relief to feel on the right track finally! I'm determined >to beat this thing! You go girl! You can do it! > > My question - I had planned to do a liver flush while I'm off, but >I'm a bit nervous. I was planning to do the oil, lemon & epsom salts >one and was hoping to hear from people who have done this if you >don't mind. Firstly, to make sure it feels safe and that you have >noticed positive outcomes in terms of really feeling more healthy. IMHO it is a very questionable procedure. I think the stuff you take creates soapstones, which do not come from the liver or gall bladder. The bile duct is varies in size from .3 to 1.5 cm. so even with drinking epsom salts to relax it is physically impossible to pas a 1 inch. stone. The liver will normalize as you treat candida, and it mostly needs good " saturated " fats like coconut oil, butter, animal meats with natural fats, etc., plus omega-3 essential fatty acid (from fish old or cod liver oil), oil soluble vitamins A, E and D, good sea salt, etc. - well you'll find all of this explained in the article. What symptoms do you have that make you feel you need a liver flush? Maybe we can give you some help for it. We're glad you joined. We're here to answer any questions once you get through the article. The best in health, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Dear Penny, While I do appreciate your time and effort in trying to convince me, the jury is still out on this one. I have read a ton of information about liver flushes and the testimonials. I've also studied extensively on how the body works, including the liver. So I still can't see how 1 inch sized stones are coming from the liver or gall bladder and moving through a bile duct that is only .3 - 1.5 centimeters in size. It is physically impossible. My sister is a nurse and very holistic too, but she agrees it is physically impossible. However, the amount of olive oil and lemon juice would flush the liver, which would improve health and give a great feeling of relief, just like enemas do. Olive oil stimulates dumping of bile, and it is also used by the liver to create bile and cholesterol. Lemon stimulates the liver to dump toxins and decongests it. In checking the history of liver flushes I found that " the original " liver flushes were always enemas, that is why they are called " liver flushes " and not " stone flushes " . The best in health, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Liver flushes may be beneficial but they seem unnecessarily harsh to me if not needed. Chemotherapy is a very harsh treatment that can get rid of cancer. I have read many sources that indicate a gentle, natural remedy will also get rid of cancer. If I had my choice, I'd take the latter, even if it took longer. I've shied away from liver flushes for the same reason. I've also had the concern, which goes along with what Bee mentioned, that if a stone is so big it can't get through the bile duct, it could cause a serious condition or even death. I don't know that much about it, but there has to be a gentler remedy. I've followed Bee's recommendations for about 8 months now and I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I think being gentle on my body has, in the long run, helped it. Zack On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, wrote: > > > >On the matter of liver (and gallbladder) flushes...........Bee, I do wish I could change > >your mind on them. > > Two summers ago, my handicapped, critically ill daughter was near death > because of gallstones and pancreatitis. We are unable to remove her > gallbladder because her lungs are not strong enough to survive surgery. > Since there was no other choice left, I did a flush on her. It was like > a miracle! It saved her life. She has passed numerous fairly large > stones and tons of small ones. I am now doing slow flushes on her, a > small amount every day. When she starts showing signs of a gallbladder > attack, we will do a regular flush and gets stones out. > > I don't know what, if anything, they have done for candida, but I do > know she has lived longer because of them. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 wrote: > I am getting ready to do my first Liver Flush on Sat. I plan on >following the instructions in s' book. Anyone have any >additional suggestions? Bee what's your opinion on a Liver flush? Hi . It's good to hear from you. I do not believe in liver flushes, and do not recommend them. I believe they can also be very damaging. You are better off doing the diet completely with lots of " good " fats, i.e. coconut oil and butter, which will help your liver immensely, improve digestion, and nourish every cell in your body as well. Adding good fats gradually is also easier on the liver. The liver needs these fats to make cholesterol and it makes bile from cholesterol, salts and minerals (contained in ocean sea salts). Cells are hydrated with good fats as well. Your brain is 80% cholesterol. If you read my article you'll get a wealth of knowledge about good fats, protein, nutrient-dense foods, etc. - in the Files on the left. The best in health, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 wrote: > Hi! I'm new to this list to see what I can learn, having picked up the link from a curezone.com forum. Lots of great stuff in the files here. Got Sally Fallon's book Nourishing Traditions for Christmas last year. Lots of great stuff in there, too! Hi ! Welcome to our group. That's wonderful you got Sally's book! > I've been doing liver flushes for about a year, coupled with the Phase 1 diet from Doug Kaufman's book, The Fungus Link. I can honestly say I'm a lot better for doing the liver flushes. You'll notice the approach on this board and the approach in The Amazing Liver Flush are opposed in many respects. You might want to look at www.askshelley.com, too. She's got an approach that seems very balanced to me. Follow your conviction! : ) Wellll . . . the reason I started this group was because I disagreed with CureZone and . I do not agree with liver flushes, psyllium or bentonite, etc. but I won't get into that now. We've discussed it a lot on this board. I believe it is way too harsh and dangerous. I prefer simplier methods that don't " force " the body as much as liver flushes do, allowing the body a chance to do it job of healing better, without overwhelming it. But I hope you stick around long enough to learn the approach we take, which is based on Weston A. Price, Sally Fallon and Enig's research. The best in health, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 la, I would start with this webpage and decide which flush you want to use after reading these questions and answers. http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=565 & t=49624 Hugs, Rogene --- tasslekitty <tasslekitty@...> wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good and preferable simple > liver flush? > > la > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Morning Everyone, I was drawn to the QXCI in the beginning because I had HepC myself. I've been treating it by ALT protocols for years. And I will add with great success - 100% normal liver functions AST 21 & ALT 31. And I agree detoxing the liver is very important along with building up the immune system. And the strongest detoxifyer of the liver- its own natural glutathione. Fresh lemon in your water will help create its own Glutathione naturally. Don't waste your money on Glutathione supplements... Its the most potent liver detoxer there is when its in its natural form. I have a web site set up sharing many of the Antioxidants & diet tips that support healthier liver functions ie: Microhydrin Plus, Immune 360 which contains Beta-Glucans, Larch Birch, Phycotene, Aloe Vera & more. And then there's Spirulina , Milk thistle, and an excellent Liver & Gallbladder support & cleanser is Artichoke Clusters. *Personally* Having a gallstone show up on Ultrasounds - I'm cautious using flushes myself - not sure I'd want any of those stones breaking up/down and getting caught in a bile duct - ouch! But if you know you don't have galbladder issues go for it! Hope this helps! There's nothing like just plain fresh squeezed lemon in your drinking water = super potent liver flush. Love, Message: 9 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:21:46 -0700 From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: Re: Re: New questions about QXCI > Question; Is the liver flush such a huge core in detoxifying? With > or without Zapping? Thanks, Noël. Yes, the liver flushes may make all the difference to detoxifying because the more hepatic stones you have the less bile flow there can be. Bile flow is essential for the liver to purge the bulk of the toxins into the stool, rather than recirculating them into the body. The second part of the detoxification core is supplying the cold- processed whey that the liver will use to make glutathione, the master antioxidant and detoxifer. This is so the liver is well- supported while breaking the rest of the toxins it can break. The liver is the biggest user of glutathione. Duncan " Healing is not necessarily curing, or bringing us back to where we were,but Allowing what is here now to bring us closer to God " .... Ram Das http://alternativehopeEPFX.com http://alternativehopeQ2energy.com ALTERNATIVE HOPE FOR HEP c http://alternativehopeforhepc.com ***Free Audio Tape & Info Pak - Call: 877 367-9875*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 I've always used red, I've never been able to get pink grapefruit at my market, I don't know why. In The Cure for HIV/AIDS, Dr. mentions that you may substitute fresh lemon instead of grapefruit. I have not been able to find her reference to pink grapefruit, I think it is in her first book which I've loaned out. I've never had a problem with red and had much success after three cleanses. --- ambney <ambney1@...> wrote: > I am just about to have my 2nd liver flush in a day > or two, but could > not get pink grapefruit. I managed to buy red > grapefruit instead & > wonder if anyone could advise me that this will work > as well, as well > as the reason Hulda says to use pink grapefruit. I > notice that in some > supermarkets they sell all 3 types (normal, pink & > red). > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Hi Folks: My kids are into there 4th week of the kidney cleanse and I am planning the Liver Cleanse for Thanksgiving weekend. Can anyone share with me if there is any pain or discomfort. I want to know what to expect for the kids. My friend had told me that the epsom salt makes the diaherria burn. Is that true? I am planning on cutting the dosage in 1/2 which is what I did with the kidney cleanse and they have been fine with it. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Holly Re: liver flush I've always used red, I've never been able to get pink grapefruit at my market, I don't know why. In The Cure for HIV/AIDS, Dr. mentions that you may substitute fresh lemon instead of grapefruit. I have not been able to find her reference to pink grapefruit, I think it is in her first book which I've loaned out. I've never had a problem with red and had much success after three cleanses. --- ambney <ambney1@...> wrote: > I am just about to have my 2nd liver flush in a day > or two, but could > not get pink grapefruit. I managed to buy red > grapefruit instead & > wonder if anyone could advise me that this will work > as well, as well > as the reason Hulda says to use pink grapefruit. I > notice that in some > supermarkets they sell all 3 types (normal, pink & > red). > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Epsom salts do not make diarrhea burn at all. But keep an eye on the storm that it creates, because it is possible to become dehydrated from the diarrhea. Adjust dosages accordingly. For children, half-doses sound good. For best results, ensure that you have all been treated for parasites. You should either zap daily for the week leading up to the cleanse or if you are on the maintenance program, you are ready anytime. Parasites in the liver can hinder success and in a worst-case scenario, cause a lodged stone in one of your bile ducts. This is very unlikely, but has happened. Don't be intimidated, you're doing great! Good luck, Ken -- Re: liver flush Hi Folks: My kids are into there 4th week of the kidney cleanse and I am planning the Liver Cleanse for Thanksgiving weekend. Can anyone share with me if there is any pain or discomfort. I want to know what to expect for the kids. My friend had told me that the epsom salt makes the diaherria burn. Is that true? I am planning on cutting the dosage in 1/2 which is what I did with the kidney cleanse and they have been fine with it. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 You will want to make sure everyone has their own toilet. They will not be able to wait in line. It does not burn but can after a while cause irritation like blowing your nose a lot. I recommend ozonated olive oil or vitamin E or something natural to help. Don't wait until they are already sore. I have not had my kids do it yet. I just did it myself. Let us know how it goes with the kids. They play so many sports there has just been no free weekend. Rose Re: liver flush I've always used red, I've never been able to get pink grapefruit at my market, I don't know why. In The Cure for HIV/AIDS, Dr. mentions that you may substitute fresh lemon instead of grapefruit. I have not been able to find her reference to pink grapefruit, I think it is in her first book which I've loaned out. I've never had a problem with red and had much success after three cleanses. --- ambney <ambney1@...> wrote: > I am just about to have my 2nd liver flush in a day > or two, but could > not get pink grapefruit. I managed to buy red > grapefruit instead & > wonder if anyone could advise me that this will work > as well, as well > as the reason Hulda says to use pink grapefruit. I > notice that in some > supermarkets they sell all 3 types (normal, pink & > red). > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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