Re:Gallbladder flush gone wrong

December 27, 2009

On Dec 27, 2009, at 5:58 AM, gallstones wrote:

> Re: Gallbladder flush gone wrong

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> Posted by: " Dave Shelden " wholehealthawareness@... sheldendavid

>

> Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:44 am (PST)

>

> hi Leif,

>

> . Work on dilution and dissolution for a while before re attempting a

> flush. Gallons of water (tiny bit of lemon helps). Lecithin. Malic

> acid or acetic acid (raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar). Taurine.

> Cold pressed raw oils. Castor oil packs over liver/gallbladder. Cold

> draining chologeric and chologague herbs. The phyllanthus is

> excellent. Others include yellow dock, coptis, dandelion, golden coin

> grass (sorry, the scientific name is escaping me at the moment and too

> lazy to head out to the clinic...), gentian, rhubarb, etc. Warming

> liver/gallbladder stimulating herb (but with great caution because of

> your internal heat) containing volatile oils (terpenes) such as boldo,

> peppermint, oregano, etc. these work very differently than the cold

> herbs. They help to dissolve by breaking up and dispersing because of

> the volatiles. All of the above but water should start out prudent and

> work your way up. For the time being for the throat you can try moist

> demulcents like slippery elm, marshmallow, licorice etc. Slippery elm

> should be available in lozenges. Any of the " bind the essence " herbs

> like schizandra, maca, shatavari, should help. Once you get your

> liver/gallbladder stuff handled the internal heat should reduce a lot.

> Depending on your constitution it may be something that you will need

> to address to some extent for a long time though. Ed at Herb Pharm

> makes fantastic products. Best of luck and may you wake up better

> tomorrow. Always, in all ways,

>

> -Dave

>

Hi, I quoted the above portion of your email because I am having a

problem with dissolving stones. Firstly, the acids are causing me to

have stomach pain and I suspect from the burning sensation an ulcer.

How does taking all these mass amounts of caustic substances dissolve

something in my gallbladder? There is no backflow of intestinal

content into the gallbladder that I'm aware of. Just curious and

trying to understand it all.

Thank you,

December 28, 2009

Hi ,

The malic acid or acetic acids are absorbed into the blood stream and then

utilized systemically. You can always buffer them. A good example would be

magnesium malate which is a magnesium/malic acid chelation. The alkalinity of

the magnesium reduces acidity. Apple juice which contains quite a bit of malic

acid (reason it is used in the flush) is almost ph neutral. The vast majority

of ulcers are now known to be caused by heliobacter pylori, not acidity; however

the acidity can be irritating. Balancing ph and alkalinizing the body with

something like baking soda or an alkaline diet may be appropriate. The acids

are found in bile in the form of bile salts. A salt is a mineral attached to

something acidic. The reason for using them is to balance the components of and

provide the raw ingredients for bile. Unfortunately the solution for detoxing

liver and gallbladder is by producing more bile to flush the system but the

components must be in proper balance. Not enough lecithin? The cholesterol

cannot stay emulsified and in suspension so coagulates and creates stones. The

gallbladder concentrates bile up to 10 times. As the aqueous portion is drawn

away it becomes thicker. Stones form from either reduction in flow of imbalance

of composition or both. -D

Re:Gallbladder flush gone wrong

On Dec 27, 2009, at 5:58 AM,

gallstones <mailto:gallstones > wrote:

> Re: Gallbladder flush gone wrong

>

> Posted by: " Dave Shelden "

wholehealthawareness@...<mailto:wholehealthawareness@...> sheldendavid