Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Does anyone have actual proof that something worked to get rid of gallstones. I have read a lot on the net that the gallbladder flushes with oil actually produce soap stones not gallstones. Has anyone tried dissolving or flushing and actually had success, meaning they had an ultra sound or other test done to show they had indeed gone? I went to my doctor today and she is very skeptical that the stones will dissolve or go away by any means other than surgery. She said she had never had anyone get rid of gallstones without surgery, and she has been a doctor for 35 years. She was very nice and said but I could be the first. I certainly would like to be but I am not finding any clear evidence that dissolving or flushing works. Has anyone had their stones tested to see if they were gallstones. Thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Then she hasn't met me. I have gotten rid of my one large gallstone back in 1999 to which my doctor, who wanted me to have my gallbladder removed within two weeks of its discovery, had to make the statement " You can't argue with success " to my wife and me. I had an MRI to note I had one and then an ultrasound to prove I no longer had one, plain and simple. Now as for that crap about the stones being no more than saponated oil we had a note from a person who makes soap that it was impossible to make it in the time frame in which the body functions to do a flush. There is a lacking in temperature and alkali content. Then too, those who have done colonics, such as me, have them come through within less than two hours if they do around four ounces of oil an hour before the colonic and to add to that even further is that the stuff test as cholesterol. There is also a product I have used that without the use of oil causes the release of stones. I have forgotten the name of this product but I still have the one I used a number of years ago and it is stll testing as good. So, having stones show when you don't even take in an oil to stimulate the liver and gallbladder to release would certainly prove the point. Dale Something that worked Does anyone have actual proof that something worked to get rid of gallstones. I have read a lot on the net that the gallbladder flushes with oil actually produce soap stones not gallstones. Has anyone tried dissolving or flushing and actually had success, meaning they had an ultra sound or other test done to show they had indeed gone? I went to my doctor today and she is very skeptical that the stones will dissolve or go away by any means other than surgery. She said she had never had anyone get rid of gallstones without surgery, and she has been a doctor for 35 years. She was very nice and said but I could be the first. I certainly would like to be but I am not finding any clear evidence that dissolving or flushing works. Has anyone had their stones tested to see if they were gallstones. Thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Wow! Dale has come back! I have to back up Dale here as painful as it might be.... He is one of my closest friends so agreeing with him is tough, my real job is to give him a hard time... Dale sent me the pictures a decade ago of the results of his first flush. As if I wanted to see.... He past several dozen stones and being a stickler for detail he put a tape measure in for reference (NEVER, borrow one of Dale's tape measures on a jobsite). The largest was over 3/4s of an inch. Now keep in mind that we are on the opposite sides of the fence concerning the green blobs. None were green blobs. All were calcified gall stones identical to path photos after path photos from dissected gallbladders that have been removed. performing a gallbladder flush is a crap shoot, literally. Some have the immediate success such as Dale, and some perform half a dozen before success. So what? the proof is in the pudding (or the toilet). And if you never pass a stone but feel better, think clearer and change the way you live, then you decide whether it was worth it or not. And as for the doctor practicing for 35 years who has never had someone get rid of gallstones without surgery, it is because of the crowd she travels in.... I have never seen someone who lost their gallbladder in my practice as long as they were willing to make the lifestyle changes and stick with the natural protocol. Have I seen people bail and go to the knife? Sure, but it was not from necessity but of choice. What will you chose? Always, in all ways, -Dave Something that worked Does anyone have actual proof that something worked to get rid of gallstones. I have read a lot on the net that the gallbladder flushes with oil actually produce soap stones not gallstones. Has anyone tried dissolving or flushing and actually had success, meaning they had an ultra sound or other test done to show they had indeed gone? I went to my doctor today and she is very skeptical that the stones will dissolve or go away by any means other than surgery. She said she had never had anyone get rid of gallstones without surgery, and she has been a doctor for 35 years. She was very nice and said but I could be the first. I certainly would like to be but I am not finding any clear evidence that dissolving or flushing works. Has anyone had their stones tested to see if they were gallstones. Thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Well now I'm REALLY confused. Dale said he had ONE stone on the MRI that was gone on the next MRI, but then Dave said that Dale passed MANY stones. So was it one or many? So much confusing information. If it was many and only one was seen what were all the other stones? And what was the Drs reaction after they were gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 OK,, let's get this cleared up. Yes, there was one stone showing in the MRI and non showed three days previous when they did an X-ray. So, do you think I tried to pass that single sized stone or would it have been a good idea to work at breaking it up? I choose to break it up using fresh apple juice, gold coin grass, other vitamins and exercise along with a major change in eating habits. I avoided all forms of fats, even the good ones to my detriment, but especially deep fried foods and those that have coagulated fats, like bacon. Failing to get essential fatty acids caused me to have a liver problem but once I read Dr Cabot's " The Liver Cleansing Diet " I started eating a lot of good fats and in time straightened that out to where I can eat pretty much what I want,,,,, even Dave's cooking which is quite worthy of being charged $50.00 a plate. The information in that message was just a quick reply to the question asked and not in to the detail as to just what I did to deal with the problem of having had a single " A " stone to having had a number of them pass when doing the flush, which took two months of preparation before I dared it. It was only to answer the question " Does anyone have actual proof that something worked to get rid of gallstones " by Chris. I believe I do even if it is anecdotal. Dale Re: Something that worked Well now I'm REALLY confused. Dale said he had ONE stone on the MRI that was gone on the next MRI, but then Dave said that Dale passed MANY stones. So was it one or many? So much confusing information. If it was many and only one was seen what were all the other stones? And what was the Drs reaction after they were gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hello Chris. I am also somewhat new to this group, and have been a sceptic of the flush. (read my post " Nausea " ). It is just this weekend that I did my second flush, and I still have the sameples of the larger stones (didn't keep the small once) that I passed that I can email you pictures of, or even ship them to you (ha,ha). This flush works! My doctors told me the same thing. I even had a good reason to avoid the surgery if all possible, but nay, they wouldn't tell you these things. I do not know why. I have an appointment with the surgen specialist that I haven't canceled yet. As far as the proof such as an ultrasound... well, in my first post you will find that I also wanted to " be sure " , not realizing it takes many flushes to get rid of all of your stones. do not be , ( " ... and be not faithless, but believing " ) Yoka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 My story: During my first couple of flushes, I eliminated some green " blobs " that may have been the " soap " that they are referring to. But more recently, I eliminated some things that look like small chick peas. I am thinking that these are probably carbohydrate stones rather than calcium stones and probably produced in the liver rather than the gallbladder. But just a guess on that. I am 48 years old and had started developing an age spot near my right temple. After a flush, the spot dissappeared and never returned. A few months later, I starting getting another age spot on my high cheek. Another flush and once again the spot was gone. I have not had any since. You can't argue with success! Just recently, the owner of my local health food story told me a story about one of his customers. The lady had terrible seasonal allergies. She did the Hulda flush protocol 3 times (2 weeks apart) and was absolutely elated at the drastic reduction in her allergy symptoms. You can't anrgue with success! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I meant to say cholesterol, not carbohydrate. Oops. --- In gallstones , " fjnie1234 " <Fred.Niehaus@...> wrote: > > My story: > > During my first couple of flushes, I eliminated some green " blobs " > that may have been the " soap " that they are referring to. > > But more recently, I eliminated some things that look like small > chick peas. I am thinking that these are probably carbohydrate > stones rather than calcium stones and probably produced in the liver > rather than the gallbladder. But just a guess on that. > > I am 48 years old and had started developing an age spot near my > right temple. After a flush, the spot dissappeared and never > returned. A few months later, I starting getting another age spot on > my high cheek. Another flush and once again the spot was gone. I > have not had any since. > > You can't argue with success! > > Just recently, the owner of my local health food story told me a > story about one of his customers. The lady had terrible seasonal > allergies. She did the Hulda flush protocol 3 times (2 weeks > apart) and was absolutely elated at the drastic reduction in her > allergy symptoms. > > You can't anrgue with success! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Have you heard a herbal called " Chanca Piedra " which means in spanish " stone breaker " . Anybody knows its affects for gallstones ? _____ From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of fjnie1234 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:44 AM gallstones Subject: Re: Something that worked I meant to say cholesterol, not carbohydrate. Oops. --- In gallstones@gro <mailto:gallstones%40> ups.com, " fjnie1234 " <Fred.Niehaus@...> wrote: > > My story: > > During my first couple of flushes, I eliminated some green " blobs " > that may have been the " soap " that they are referring to. > > But more recently, I eliminated some things that look like small > chick peas. I am thinking that these are probably carbohydrate > stones rather than calcium stones and probably produced in the liver > rather than the gallbladder. But just a guess on that. > > I am 48 years old and had started developing an age spot near my > right temple. After a flush, the spot dissappeared and never > returned. A few months later, I starting getting another age spot on > my high cheek. Another flush and once again the spot was gone. I > have not had any since. > > You can't argue with success! > > Just recently, the owner of my local health food story told me a > story about one of his customers. The lady had terrible seasonal > allergies. She did the Hulda flush protocol 3 times (2 weeks > apart) and was absolutely elated at the drastic reduction in her > allergy symptoms. > > You can't anrgue with success! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Thanks to all that responded. I have no idea how large my stones are, therefore am reluctant to try a flush. I tried to find out, but could not get the answer. I have not had an actual attack. Just bad gastritis. I know what an attack feels like. When I was a teenager I had one, and they wanted to do surgery, then. I watched my diet and ate no bad fat for about eight years and they cleared up. I was back to being able to eat pork, drink coffee, and as many spices as I wanted. At that time I was told they were very small stones. They sure created very big pain. Now, over thirty years after my last attack, they are back. I am hoping to dissolve them. Would I need a flush if they just dissolved? Thanks again, Chris Re: Something that worked I meant to say cholesterol, not carbohydrate. Oops. --- In gallstones@gro <mailto:gallstones%40> ups.com, " fjnie1234 " <Fred.Niehaus@...> wrote: > > My story: > > During my first couple of flushes, I eliminated some green " blobs " > that may have been the " soap " that they are referring to. > > But more recently, I eliminated some things that look like small > chick peas. I am thinking that these are probably carbohydrate > stones rather than calcium stones and probably produced in the liver > rather than the gallbladder. But just a guess on that. > > I am 48 years old and had started developing an age spot near my > right temple. After a flush, the spot dissappeared and never > returned. A few months later, I starting getting another age spot on > my high cheek. Another flush and once again the spot was gone. I > have not had any since. > > You can't argue with success! > > Just recently, the owner of my local health food story told me a > story about one of his customers. The lady had terrible seasonal > allergies. She did the Hulda flush protocol 3 times (2 weeks > apart) and was absolutely elated at the drastic reduction in her > allergy symptoms. > > You can't anrgue with success! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Do not be afraid to attempt a flush- preparation is the key - diet leading up to the flush is important, eating the right foods , taking the proper herbs and juices to soften and dissolve the stones etc. It is all here on this group website- so take your time, educate yourself to the countless testimonials of people who have successfully passed large stones and u will succeed. Really. Just do not do anything that you are not comfortable with. Good luck FB On Feb 12, 2009, at 1:21 PM, wrote: > Thanks to all that responded. I have no idea how large my stones are, > therefore am reluctant to try a flush. I tried to find out, but > could not > get the answer. I have not had an actual attack. Just bad gastritis. > I know > what an attack feels like. When I was a teenager I had one, and they > wanted > to do surgery, then. I watched my diet and ate no bad fat for about > eight > years and they cleared up. I was back to being able to eat pork, drink > coffee, and as many spices as I wanted. At that time I was told they > were > very small stones. They sure created very big pain. Now, over thirty > years > after my last attack, they are back. I am hoping to dissolve them. > Would I > need a flush if they just dissolved? > > Thanks again, > > Chris > > Re: Something that worked > > I meant to say cholesterol, not carbohydrate. Oops. > > > > > > My story: > > > > During my first couple of flushes, I eliminated some green " blobs " > > that may have been the " soap " that they are referring to. > > > > But more recently, I eliminated some things that look like small > > chick peas. I am thinking that these are probably carbohydrate > > stones rather than calcium stones and probably produced in the > liver > > rather than the gallbladder. But just a guess on that. > > > > I am 48 years old and had started developing an age spot near my > > right temple. After a flush, the spot dissappeared and never > > returned. A few months later, I starting getting another age spot > on > > my high cheek. Another flush and once again the spot was gone. I > > have not had any since. > > > > You can't argue with success! > > > > Just recently, the owner of my local health food story told me a > > story about one of his customers. The lady had terrible seasonal > > allergies. She did the Hulda flush protocol 3 times (2 weeks > > apart) and was absolutely elated at the drastic reduction in her > > allergy symptoms. > > > > You can't anrgue with success! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I was afraid to do flushes but it worked out fine for me. Many of my issues cleared up, and although I still have mild gallbladder attacks, they are no where near as bad as they were. I know from having an ultra sound that I have one stone, 1.5 cm left in my gallbladder. Even though it seems to be to big too pass, I think many did pass which is why I no longer of the level of pain as I used to. I also used Gold Coin Grass, it is well worth the bother and cost of ordering it. Here is a link. http://www.sensiblehealth.com/Products.xhtml & currency=cdn > > > > > > My story: > > > > > > During my first couple of flushes, I eliminated some green " blobs " > > > that may have been the " soap " that they are referring to. > > > > > > But more recently, I eliminated some things that look like small > > > chick peas. I am thinking that these are probably carbohydrate > > > stones rather than calcium stones and probably produced in the > > liver > > > rather than the gallbladder. But just a guess on that. > > > > > > I am 48 years old and had started developing an age spot near my > > > right temple. After a flush, the spot dissappeared and never > > > returned. A few months later, I starting getting another age spot > > on > > > my high cheek. Another flush and once again the spot was gone. I > > > have not had any since. > > > > > > You can't argue with success! > > > > > > Just recently, the owner of my local health food story told me a > > > story about one of his customers. The lady had terrible seasonal > > > allergies. She did the Hulda flush protocol 3 times (2 weeks > > > apart) and was absolutely elated at the drastic reduction in her > > > allergy symptoms. > > > > > > You can't anrgue with success! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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