Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Speaking of milk thistle, does anyone know anything about magnesium stearate? It is some sort of filler that is found in many supplements such as milk thistle. I haven't been able to find milk thistle without it. Premier Research Labs is a supplement manufacturer that does not put magnesium stearate in any of its products. They claim that magnesium is a " toxic excipient " . Does anyone know anything about magnesium steareate, or more specifically whether it is a problem or not? Thanks. > > > > > From: Rose Conforti <roseconforti@...> > > > Subject: Re: Should I have surgery? > > > gallstones > > > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 5:04 PM > > > Hi All, Hi Chantal, > > > > > > I had a gall bladder attack and was rushed to hospital > > > about six months ago. I also was told I had a thickening of > > > the gall bladder wall and stones. There are two types of > > > stones (from what I understand) one is composed of bile > > > salts. This is the type I have. I discovered that after > > > doing a flush. > > > > > > I am in the process of beginning another flush. One needs > > > to do many flushes in conjunction with a diet and lifestyle > > > change and taking appropriate supplements before making a > > > decision. That is my approach. so far, I have not had > > > another attack and am slowly trying to recover before making > > > any decisions. > > > > > > These decisions are personal and we do the best we can. I > > > also know people who have removed their gallbladder and are > > > happy with their decision. Ultimately it is your decision > > > and trying other means other than surgery is worthwhile in > > > my opinion. There is a lot of information available in the > > > archives and as Dave said, we are a supportive and caring > > > group. > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > Rose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> > > > gallstones > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:51:49 AM > > > Subject: Re: Should I have surgery? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chantal, > > > > > > Yes, natural attempts (not just flushes) work all the time. > > > Probably most of the time. We all know Munawar and I > > > believe most support him in his decision. Bless him. Every > > > case is different and in his, he attempted much and reached > > > a point where he decided that removal was the best route, > > > which he does not regret, and is obviously much more > > > comfortable. However there are also scores of people that > > > have never gotten to that point because they reached a point > > > of comfort well before removal through less invasive means. > > > It is not possible to determine in your case what the future > > > holds, just a question that hangs in the present; Should > > > you try other natural approaches first? One thing that is > > > not up for debate is the other positive changes that these > > > attempts create. I would hope that Munawar would second > > > this after his experience. It is not only not uncommon for > > > vegetarians to develop gallstones but is quite common. this > > > is no reflection on the > > > vegetarian diet just an observation. Let me save either > > > you or your insurance company the cost of the consultation: > > > The surgeon will recommend srgery... Of course the attorney > > > may recommend legal action and the landscaper may recommend > > > you have your grass cut... Many of the questions you have > > > about specifics can be found in the archives of this group > > > and in terms of support, you cannot find a better bunch of > > > more caring people. > > > > > > Always, in all ways, > > > > > > -Dave > > > Re: Should I have surgery? > > > > > > Removing GB is entirely your own decision but let me shre > > > my experience wit > > > you. I found out around 7 months ago that i have stones, i > > > went through a > > > lot of terrible attacks and probabaly went to ER more than > > > 20 times in 7 > > > months. I was never ready to remove my GB b.coz of so many > > > stories on the > > > net etc. but finally i had to remove it because nothing > > > worked. I spent > > > thousands on naturopaths, homeopaths, and did every thing > > > that is suggested > > > online and by naturopaths. Took all kind of herbs etc and > > > it made no > > > difference at all. I removed my GB on April 13th, and i > > > have no pain, no > > > diareaha, no nause, no nothing, every thing is going very > > > smooth. Doctors > > > are saying that one can live a very normal life wiuthout > > > thi organ. I bet > > > no matter what you do, one day it has to go because all > > > other treatments are > > > temporary. > > > > > > Think wisely and do whatever suits you best. all the best. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:46 PM, cgilmore1970 > > > <cgilmore1970<mailto:cgilmore197 0%40. > > > com>>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just joined the group in hopes of educating myself. > > > I realize most of you > > > > have likely done a lot of research and nothing beats > > > personal experience? I > > > > have had 3 nights over the past month where I have > > > woken up in terrible > > > > pain. The first two times I couldn't really > > > specify where it was because it > > > > was widespread in abdomen/chest. The 3rd time it was > > > more focused under my > > > > right breast bone. When I went to the doctor she told > > > me it was likely my > > > > gallbladder. A few years back I had other tests done > > > and they discovered my > > > > gallbladder had several stones in it. Since I > > > wasn't having any symptoms > > > > there was no reason to have it removed. Now I feel > > > like it has likley been a > > > > ticking time bomb. I have no pain my my back and no > > > nausea. I had an > > > > ultrasound and the results showed stones which is no > > > surprise and it also > > > > showed a thickening of the gallbladder. Originally my > > > doctor was going to > > > > send me for a HIDA scan if stones were present but she > > > said the thickening > > > > indicates it isn't functioning well so no need to > > > do the HIDA afterall. > > > > She wants me to go and have it removed. I am meeting > > > with a surgeon next > > > > week for a consult. I am reluctant to have it removed > > > so soon. Am I fooling > > > > myself into thicking I don't need surgery at this > > > point? Do the cleanses > > > > really work when you have a ton of stones? Any advice > > > or info you could give > > > > me would be appreciated. I am going to be 40. > > > Ironically I eat a vegetarian > > > > diet so I am not a likely candidate. I am about 10lbs > > > overweight. > > > > Help! > > > > Thank you in advance for your time. > > > > Chantal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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