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Hello:

I am new to the list and to Dr. 's methods and I think this is a good

question.....I do not know the answer, but would be interested in any

replies given.

Kathy Neff

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There's nothing specific described for the lung in her books (that I know

of). I think you miss the point of the kidney and liver cleanse. The

digestive system is a very important part of your health. Clean it out (by

ridding of parasites and other toxins), and your health has a better chance

of being restored....regardless of the specific condition you are

encountering.

Dr.

>Hello out there,

>I'm new at this, and I'm wondering if there is such a thing as a lung

>cleansing program, similar to colon, kidney, and liver cleansing.

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I have heard that taking cayenne in capsule form as well as lobelia will

cleanse the lungs.

Eileen

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>Hello:

>I am new to the list and to Dr. 's methods and I think this is a good

>question.....I do not know the answer, but would be interested in any

>replies given.

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>Kathy Neff

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In researching this in the book " Prescription for Nutritional Healing " by Dr.

F. Balch and Phyllis A. Balch, C.N.C., it is true that cayenne is shown

to be good for the lungs, but the book notes that cayenne is used with

lobelia for nerves. Also noted, there's a caution that lobelia is good used

on a limited basis for treatment of asthma, bronchitis, colds and flu ... but

it should not be taken internally on an ongoing basis because it has nicotine

like effects on the body, and taking more than 50 mg. of dried lobelia can

suppress breathing, depress blood pressure, and even lead to coma. Think

about this when considering this combination. Rae

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Oh YES!

I am taking it as we speak.

My alternative doc told me that my CFS will be greatly improved if I focus

on my liver. Detoxing it, rebuilding it's health and maintaining through

herbs and nutrition. Milk Thistle is on the top of our list for this.

To back up what he said, I have had liver problems since contracting CFS,

and I personally feel that the CF virus is centered here and likes to attack

this organ.I feel if I can help my liver, I will be on the road to a normal

life.

I must say that cleanses are not comfortable, and many stop just when the

getting is good due to this. Before you do a cleanse, keep this in mind, and

if you feel a little sick, especially at the start,it means it is working.

It's the darkness before the day, the storm before the calm.

Eileen

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>I believe in that ... I've heard milk thistle is a highly efffective liver

>detoxifier .. any thoughts on this? Rae

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On 8 Jan 00, at 20:17, Path of the White Rose wrote:

> I have heard that taking cayenne in capsule form as well as lobelia

> will cleanse the lungs. Eileen

Yes, this is per Dr Schulze´s advice. As soon as there is cayenne as

part of a recipe, one knows that it comes from him. :-) Even the

eyewash I use contains cayenne...

Those who want to learn more about Dr Schulze´s recipes, can go to

www.healthfree.com/schulze or www.botanicals.net

Best regards, Ulf

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One step further then ... on the milk thistle .. what's the best

dosage/regimen to get rid of liver gunk? I'm feeling very toxic lately ...

but I would rather I know the right way to do this .. my glands in my neck

tingle all the time and feel swollen ... causing me to panic ... my abdomen

is distended ... my right side feeling like there's a kink in my intestine

.... lordy ... I'm a mess ... need help .. RaeDreams

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Yes, it is. More scientifically studied than most things we talk about on

this list. But, I don't think you can detoxify a liver without ridding it

of parasites (if they are there).

Dr.

At 10:58 AM 01/09/2000 EST, you wrote:

>From: RaeDreams@...

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>I believe in that ... I've heard milk thistle is a highly efffective liver

>detoxifier .. any thoughts on this? Rae

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I personally have tried many fasts and cleanses. Arise and Shine seems to be

one of the best programs available, though difficult to follow. I have gotten

mucoid matter out, needing the colema board to do so. Also, is anyone testing

there ph level as suggested? If the body is to acid it will not detox very

well, and one can have reactions no matter what. I have also found aloe vera

juice to be very helpful in cleansing. The very first natural path I went to

put me on a 3 day fast, I did not cleanse properly and am still trying to

correct the damage 8 years later. So it seems wise to be careful, and educate

oneself really well before fasting. Also, I do better if I cleanse in the

right time of year, spring or fall, my body feels like it really wants to

then, in the winter I try to stay warm, and eat healthy warm, filling meals..

I personally find a great need to replenish and build after cleansing, its

vital to do so, the immune system will become to weak if no down time and

building accurs. Protien drinks, vege broths, nourishing foods. Myself

personally find liver cleansing to be of great benefit to, the liver is so

directly linked to the bowel, and immune system. A & S liver products seem to

work very well, the better my liver is the better my bowels cleanse. My

greatest success has always been with gbladder flushes, s program really

does work, I've gotten thousands out, my body is the better for them thats

for sure.

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> From: Linkon4@...

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> I personally have tried many fasts and cleanses. Arise and

Shine seems to be

> one of the best programs available, though difficult to follow.

I have gotten

> mucoid matter out, needing the colema board to do so. Also, is

anyone testing

> there ph level as suggested? If the body is to acid it will not

detox very

> well, and one can have reactions no matter what. I have also

found aloe vera

> juice to be very helpful in cleansing. The very first natural

path I went to

> put me on a 3 day fast, I did not cleanse properly and am still

trying to

> correct the damage 8 years later.

Three days of fasting can not do that much damage to your

body...unless maybe the water had some kind of dangerous

contamination.

> So it seems wise to be careful, and educate oneself really well

before fasting.

Always a good idea.

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Hi Bonnie,

Yes, Bonnie I'll be praying for you. You read my mind. I was thinking

yesterday about those of you who are starting the cleanse, because I

wanted to pray for all of you. It would be hard for me to do a 7 day fast

cleanse like that and I would want you praying for me if I were doing it.

So if you want me to pray for you during your cleanse let me know.

Love, Liz

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Hi Liz,

I appreciate that :-) I'll let you know when I start. There's no way I can do it without the Lord's help!Thanks a lot :-)

{{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie

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Well, hot dry is what Sauna's are. Can you turn the heater up in the bathroom (small confined less expensive and inconvenient to the rest of the household) 'till you sweat profusely? Perhaps drink some ginger tea or take a bath with ginger tea in it would also help with it. I don't know where you are, but many YM/WCA's have sauna's you can use. The fee is generally for some other part of their health club offering but they're most reasonable. SaraLou

I was told to take a sauna, but can't find one! Ican't believe they didn't tell me this until I was getting ready to walk outthe door at 5pm!! They said I'll really suffer if I don't do it! Grrrrrr

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Does anyone have ideas for an easy kidney cleanse? I don't think I have it

in me to buy the herbs in bulk and steep them, etc. Is there anything

simpler I could do?

Also, how critical is it that I do a kidney cleanse before a liver cleanse?

Finally, I got an ultraviolet blood irradiation treatment today (kills germs

and oxyzenates the blood) that is supposed to cause a lot of die off. What

can I do to minimize this. I was told to take a sauna, but can't find one! I

can't believe they didn't tell me this until I was getting ready to walk out

the door at 5pm!! They said I'll really suffer if I don't do it! Grrrrrr

Thanks!

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Crack open a watermelon and go to town on it. Or you can juice it.

Watermelon makes a great kidney cleanse and as a bonus you will get a

nice healthy dose of glutathione to boot!

Dennis

Jay wrote:

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> Does anyone have ideas for an easy kidney cleanse? I don't think I have it

> in me to buy the herbs in bulk and steep them, etc. Is there anything

> simpler I could do?

>

> Also, how critical is it that I do a kidney cleanse before a liver cleanse?

>

> Finally, I got an ultraviolet blood irradiation treatment today (kills germs

> and oxyzenates the blood) that is supposed to cause a lot of die off. What

> can I do to minimize this. I was told to take a sauna, but can't find one! I

> can't believe they didn't tell me this until I was getting ready to walk out

> the door at 5pm!! They said I'll really suffer if I don't do it! Grrrrrr

>

> Thanks!

>

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> Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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On this note, many hotels offer saunas in their spas too. Possibly they would let you pay for just the sauna.

Have a great day!~Karmakarma@...http://loaves-n-fishes.comhttp://loaves-n-fishes.com/downloads.htm

I was told to take a sauna, but can't find one! Ican't believe they didn't tell me this until I was getting ready to walk outthe door at 5pm!! They said I'll really suffer if I don't do it! Grrrrrr

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Bernadette, I am interested in how you cleansed. I

cannot take psyllium (allergic) and that seems to be

the only way people have cleansed. I take Hormozon,

but haven't noticed anything (except its price). Been

taking up to 2 teaspoons a day. Desparately need to

get that impacted stuff out, know I have it, have been

constipated for many, many years.

Have done 3 fasts now, and I feel great when I don't

eat, but tired and have to eat again sometime. I also

take Bentonite occasionally, but have not seen any

results from that as well. Any suggestions?]

Thanks,

Matty

--- abrs@... wrote:

> Patty, I have cleansed many times. Lost big thick

> black ropes of tar from my

> system. Yet never saw a worm until I started

> Homozon. It took several months

> on Homozon to see a worm and to begin to have normal

> movements again. I do

> not see that many worms. Hopefully as time goes I

> will see more. I don't

> know if this makes a difference, but the first time

> I saw a worm was when I

> started taking my digestive enzymes with Homozon.

>

> Bernadette

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> Re: parasites & back pain

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> > > Patty: same thing happened to my husband.

> > > The tincture worked very well. We're both using

> very mild doses (3

> > > drops a day).

> >

> > Unfortunately, my husband's flank pain made him

> stop using the tincture,

> so

> > he didn't really get to use it enough to notice

> any results. However, he

> > was using very strong doses! I think he took a

> dropperful (around 40

> drops)

> > three times a day in warm water. I remember Karma

> saying that she took

> > pretty strong doses too. Maybe it was just too

> much for his sensitive

> > kidneys.

> >

> > He's very trim and never had any kind of belly to

> worry about, but his

> > constipation has been an ongoing concern. The

> back pain has always gone

> > away with the kidney cleanse, so that is why we

> associate the pain with

> the

> > kidneys. This time the pain came on so suddenly

> and strong after the

> black

> > walnut tincture, he got very concerned and quit

> using it. He's back on

> the

> > kidney cleanse, but now we have to find another

> way to tackle the parasite

> > issue! We have used psyllium seed husks,

> bentonite clay, enemas,

> colonics,

> > (no colema board yet), and are on the Homozon now.

> We have stayed away

> from

> > the MLM products. He really wants to get rid of

> any worms that might be

> > there, and I'd place bets that he has some type of

> huge creature up there!

> >

> > Any suggestions are welcome--do you think the

> Homozon will do it?

> > Patty

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Subscription email:

> > mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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Hi Matty,

I am looking in my book, "Own Your Own Body" by Dr. Malstrom to see what he recommends for this. He says that people should take an herbal laxative and take as many enemas as you can stand. The ingredients he lists in the herbal laxative are for children: senna, fennel, rhubarb. He says it is a mild laxative for adults. He sells a product that is already prepared called Formula #23 Child Lax. For adults he suggests: barberry, cascara sagrada, licorice, senna, raspberry, lobelia, and cayenne. His product is Formula #61 T-LB which means it should be a tincture since it is a T product. He says to take 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon doses, decreas dosages for children.

Hope this helps,

~Karma<(©¿©)> http://loaves-n-fishes.com

Re: parasites & back pain> > > >> > > Patty: same thing happened to my husband.> > > The tincture worked very well. We're both using> very mild doses (3> > > drops a day).> >> > Unfortunately, my husband's flank pain made him> stop using the tincture,> so> > he didn't really get to use it enough to notice> any results. However, he> > was using very strong doses! I think he took a> dropperful (around 40> drops)> > three times a day in warm water. I remember Karma> saying that she took> > pretty strong doses too. Maybe it was just too> much for his sensitive> > kidneys.> >> > He's very trim and never had any kind of belly to> worry about, but his> > constipation has been an ongoing concern. The> back pain has always gone> > away with the kidney cleanse, so that is why we> associate the pain with> the> > kidneys. This time the pain came on so suddenly> and strong after the> black> > walnut tincture, he got very concerned and quit> using it. He's back on> the> > kidney cleanse, but now we have to find another> way to tackle the parasite> > issue! We have used psyllium seed husks,> bentonite clay, enemas,> colonics,> > (no colema board yet), and are on the Homozon now.> We have stayed away> from> > the MLM products. He really wants to get rid of> any worms that might be> > there, and I'd place bets that he has some type of> huge creature up there!> >> > Any suggestions are welcome--do you think the> Homozon will do it?> > Patty> >> >> >> >> > Subscription email:> > mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups> >

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When I fast I have to cleanse. My colon will not move otherwise. I have

cleansed using the Arise & Shine products, which uses psylium. I have used

Aim's Herbal Fiberblend with Bentonite, along with Arise & Shine. I have

used the Lemonade fast, and highly recommend this fast if you feel weak when

you fast. This is not a cleanse though. At least not for me. I too am highly

constipated. How long have you been on Homozon? Can you increase your dose

and spread them out through the day? I got my worms out the day I took

digestive enzymes, Homozon and had been eating sprouts during the day and a

healthy supper at night. I do not consider myself on a cleanse right now. My

worms came out through normal living with Homozon. I wish I was more of an

expert. But I too am experimenting.

Bernadette

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> Hi,

>

> My question today is how long should a person wait inbetween cleanses?

> Last night I decided to do the liver cleanse because I impatient for

> getting the kidney cleanse herbs and then waiting for another 6 weeks.

> Well I had success with the liver cleanse with about 100 stones. Just now

> the kidney stuff came and I am wondering if I should wait and how long.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Wanda

Wanda, be patient, you will get better results. You should do both the

parasite and kidney cleanse before the liver for better results. The cart

doesn't drive as well if it is in front of the horse.

Jan

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I was desparate to clean my liver because my chronic fatigue and food allergies were so bad. According to the book, you should wait 2 weeks between liver flushes. I did the kidney cleanse concurrently, I just skipped the kidney herbs the day of and the day after the flush. That seemed to work fine, and I was able to continue cleaning my liver.

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Hi,My question today is how long should a person wait inbetween cleanses?Last night I decided to do the liver cleanse because I impatient forgetting the kidney cleanse herbs and then waiting for another 6 weeks.Well I had success with the liver cleanse with about 100 stones. Just nowthe kidney stuff came and I am wondering if I should wait and how long.Thanks,WandaLearn more from:http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/http://home.online.no/~huldakli/http://www..net/http://home.online.no/~dusan/

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