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Thanks ny. I'm not worried. It sounds like a simple procedure.

Debbie

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> Hi,

> This does not sounds as scary as I thought it would be.

> I am wishing you all the best when you get the gal bladder removed.

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that is good!I might have to do this myself.ny From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 2:10:23 PMSubject: [ ] Re:

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Thanks ny. I'm not worried. It sounds like a simple procedure.

Debbie

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> Hi,

> This does not sounds as scary as I thought it would be.

> I am wishing you all the best when you get the gal bladder removed.

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> ny

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It really isnt so bad at all and you will feel so much better after it is gone. Did they say why they are ready to take it out?

From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 6:30:41 PMSubject: [ ] Gallbladder

I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1 to 1-1/2 hours.Debbie

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Beth,

The ultrasound I had yesterday showed 2 stones. My Dr. said if the pain wasn't

gone after like 12 hours, he would do the watchfull waiting, but since I have

had this pain for almost a week now, nonstop pretty much is his main reason why

now. Gallbladder trouble tends to run in the family and my dad had his out when

I was in high school. When he came out of surgery and woke up he had the hiccups

for 17 days straight.NONSTOP. I trust my DR. He's been my dr for 28 yrs. He was

a new Dr. then. He knows me well and will take the time to explain things to me

or listen to me.

Debbie

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> It really isnt so bad at all and you will feel so much better after it is

gone. Did they say why they are ready to take it out?

>

>

>

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> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 6:30:41 PM

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>  

> I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my

gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1

to 1-1/2 hours.

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> Debbie

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That is to funny hiccupped for 17 days, I do hiccup sometimes but it is just like once or twice usllay after lunch

From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 8:24:14 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Gallbladder

Beth,The ultrasound I had yesterday showed 2 stones. My Dr. said if the pain wasn't gone after like 12 hours, he would do the watchfull waiting, but since I have had this pain for almost a week now, nonstop pretty much is his main reason why now. Gallbladder trouble tends to run in the family and my dad had his out when I was in high school. When he came out of surgery and woke up he had the hiccups for 17 days straight.NONSTOP. I trust my DR. He's been my dr for 28 yrs. He was a new Dr. then. He knows me well and will take the time to explain things to me or listen to me.Debbie>> It really isnt so bad at all and you will feel so much better after it is gone. Did they say why they are ready to take it

out?> > > > > ________________________________> From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...>> > Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 6:30:41 PM> Subject: [ ] Gallbladder> > Â > I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1 to 1-1/2 hours.> > Debbie>

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Yeah me too and after I eat ice cream. Before my father died for several months

before, he would get those hiccups nonstop sometimes for weeks on end. It really

wore him out and he had a bad heart. His heart gave out and he passed and I was

too far away to get to him before he died. I was mommy's girl and daddy's boy.

Debbie

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> > It really isnt so bad at all and you will feel so much better after it is

gone. Did they say why they are ready to take it out?

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> > I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my

gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1

to 1-1/2 hours.

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> > Debbie

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Oh, I am glad for you DebbieYou don't need the pain from the gallbladder when you are facing treatmentGloria

I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1 to 1-1/2 hours.

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I am sorry about your dad, I lost mine in 2004, bad heart, I was daddys girl. He had always had problems but always worked and they did 7 bypasses and gave him 5 yrs if he quit smoking, he didnt quit but lived 11yrs. And then had a massive.

From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 9:14:43 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Gallbladder

Yeah me too and after I eat ice cream. Before my father died for several months before, he would get those hiccups nonstop sometimes for weeks on end. It really wore him out and he had a bad heart. His heart gave out and he passed and I was too far away to get to him before he died. I was mommy's girl and daddy's boy.Debbie> >> > It really isnt so bad at all and you will feel so much better after it is gone. Did they say why they are ready to take it out?> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@>> > > > Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 6:30:41 PM> > Subject: [ ] Gallbladder> > > >  > > I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1 to 1-1/2 hours.> > > >

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I am not sure what is causing the gallbladder issue for you. My

gallbladder/liver region has been painful too the last couple of days and I have

been on the protocol for 3 weeks now. I started taking a product by Standard

Process called A-F Betafood, prescribed by my chiropractor/kinesiologist. It

gets the bile moving. It has seemed to help a little. I thought I read somewhere

that Cats Claw can have an effect on the liver. Perhaps that is what is causing

it.

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I've gotten lots of strange sharp pains in different areas of my body since I

started treatment for Lyme. I'm hoping it's detox, but I couldn't say for sure.

Connie

[ ] Gallbladder

I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been

feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation,

stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a

salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a

wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for

a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm.

I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising,

as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no

dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm

detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance?

Thank you,

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sounds like gallbladder to me too. try a liver cleanse like coffee enema's or Dr

Hulda 's -lots of Lymies have diseased gallbladders.

~dory

From: jcoughlin1011 <jcoughlin1011@...>

Subject: [ ] Gallbladder

Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 2:39 PM

 

I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have

been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning

sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after

eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage,

followed by a wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm.

It lasted for a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder,

neck, and arm. I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This

was surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a

healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm

detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance?

Thank you,

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I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help

with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner

protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being

expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me,

that means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness

practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese

herbal formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy

Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or

emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece

of the Lyme puzzle for me.

Good luck,

Phil

> I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been

feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning

sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after

eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage,

followed by a wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm.

It lasted for a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder,

neck, and arm. I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This

was surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a

healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits.

>

> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe

I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance?

>

> Thank you,

>

>

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How do all of you know that your liver/gall bladder is bothering you? What are

specific symptoms of liver and/or gallbladder issues? I just feel crummy.

Jay

[ ] Re: Gallbladder

,

I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help

with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner

protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being

expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that

means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness

practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal

formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy

Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or

emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece

of the Lyme puzzle for me.

Good luck,

Phil

> I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been

feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation,

stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a

salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a

wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for

a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm.

I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising,

as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no

dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits.

>

> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe

I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance?

>

> Thank you,

>

>

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Here's some info on the TCM liver. My biggest livery Lyme symptom is muscle

soreness and stiffness, which is the liver not doing it's job of moving qi.

Lots of good stuff here:

http://tcm.health-info.org/Zang%20Fu%20foundation/Liver.htm

>

> How do all of you know that your liver/gall bladder is bothering you? What are

specific symptoms of liver and/or gallbladder issues? I just feel crummy.

> Jay

> [ ] Re: Gallbladder

>

>

>

> ,

>

> I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help

with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner

protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being

expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that

means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness

practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal

formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy

Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or

emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece

of the Lyme puzzle for me.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Phil

>

> > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been

feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation,

stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a

salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a

wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for

a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm.

I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising,

as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no

dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits.

> >

> > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe

I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance?

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

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HadleyPR,

Thank you very much.

I work a 45+ hour week & exercise every other day with weights.....Burrascano

was HIGHLY recommended weights etc. so muscles would not atrophy forever.

I will studdy further...so you believe most of my muscle issues are liver

related in contrast to disease per se (bacteria)

I have a friend who has done a dozen hulda clarl cleanses & has seen very little

relief, so I am in a quandary...and taking all the time to do things like that,

and wrecking the gut gives me pause.

MY ND is recommending Pekana products......

Jazzman

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>

>

>

> ,

>

> I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help

with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner

protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being

expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that

means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness

practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal

formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy

Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or

emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece

of the Lyme puzzle for me.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Phil

>

> > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been

feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation,

stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a

salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a

wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for

a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm.

I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising,

as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no

dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits.

> >

> > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe

I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance?

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Before my gall bladder ruptured i had intense pain but that took awhile at first

it was about a year year in a half of back pain i didn't even know it was my

Gallbladder at first some people have different symptoms

Mine started out with like i said some back pain and heart burn that increased

the pain in my mid back got so intense that i was rushed to the hospital where i

found out my gallbladder was in bad shape,Me being a dummy went home the next

day went back and ruptured it my surgery took over 6 hours due to complications

...

Dont be stupid like me if you think you have a problem get it looked at soon,I

wish you the best ..Liver problems are tricky i became jaundice before i even

knew i had a problem ,i didn't really have any pain but i also take pain meds on

a daily basis for other health reasons..

Happy Thanksgiving everyone ,

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From: Jay A. Rovert <jay12@...>

Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 9:03:58 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Gallbladder

How do all of you know that your liver/gall bladder is bothering you? What are

specific symptoms of liver and/or gallbladder issues? I just feel crummy.

Jay

[ ] Re: Gallbladder

,

I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help

with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner

protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being

expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that

means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness

practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal

formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy

Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or

emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece

of the Lyme puzzle for me.

Good luck,

Phil

> I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been

>feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning

sensation,

>stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a

>salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by

a

>wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for

>a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm.

>I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising,

>as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with

no

>dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits.

>

>

> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe

I'm

>detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance?

>

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

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From: Jay A. Rovert <jay12@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Gallbladder

Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 9:03 PM

 

How do all of you know that your liver/gall bladder is

bothering you? What are specific symptoms of liver and/or gallbladder

issues? I just feel crummy.

Jay

right upper quadrant abdominal pain that can radiate to the back or shoulders,

indigestion, nausea, chest pain etc.

Droy

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I do have heartburn, but was diagnosed with Crohns 30 years ago......

Jay

[ ] Re: Gallbladder

,

I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help

with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner

protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being

expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that

means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness

practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal

formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy

Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or

emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece

of the Lyme puzzle for me.

Good luck,

Phil

> I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been

>feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning

sensation,

>stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a

>salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by

a

>wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for

>a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm.

>I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising,

>as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with

no

>dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits.

>

>

> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe

I'm

>detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance?

>

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

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Jazzman,

No, my statements do not discount your disease diagnosis. Traditional Chinese

Medicine (TCM) is a very old tradition of holistic medicine that is very

different from allopathic (i.e. Western) medicine. The TCM model of medicine is

completely independent of the Western model, so any TCM diagnoses that are

assigned to you do not contradict your Western medicine diagnoses in any way.

To illustrative the difference, here's a simple example: You might say you have

a headache, and your Western doctor would diagnose it as a migrane and prescribe

a pain reliever like Tylenol. In contrast, upon hearing your headache symptom,

a TCM doc would evaluate your body language, mannerisms, look at your tongue,

take your pulse, ask about your bowel movements, etc.. before assigning a

diagnosis. Then s/he would make some recommendations to alleviate your " big

picture " health pattern, such as acupuncture, chinese herbs, tui na massage, and

lifestyle and diet recommendations. Personally, I enjoy the involvement that

chinese medicine provides the client, because I get to be responsible for my own

health.

I have been receiving acupuncture and chinese herbs from TCM docs for 10 years.

In my experience, TCM excels at health maintenance and chronic conditions such

as Lyme. The Buhner protocol is not a TCM herb formula, but it does contain

some chinese herbs (as the book states). While taking the protocol for the past

8 months, I have worked with my TCM doc to support the rest of my health picture

to deal with the side effects of the Buhner protocol healing process.

A lot more could be said, but I have other work to do. If you're interested,

I'll recommend a couple of books:

Healing with Whole Foods

Pitchford

This is a book on nutrition from a TCM perspective, but it is a good starting

point for understanding the basic TCM health model.

The Web That Has No Weaver

Ted Kaptchuk

A classic text, written by a westerner when TCM first started gaining

recognition in the West.

Between Heaven and Earth

Harriet Beinfield and Efrem Korngold

A more in-depth description of the TCM model. I enjoyed reading about the

personality types.

HTH,

Phil

> >

> > How do all of you know that your liver/gall bladder is bothering you? What

are specific symptoms of liver and/or gallbladder issues? I just feel crummy.

> > Jay

> > [ ] Re: Gallbladder

> >

> >

> >

> > ,

> >

> > I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to

help with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner

protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being

expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that

means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness

practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal

formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy

Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or

emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece

of the Lyme puzzle for me.

> >

> > Good luck,

> >

> > Phil

> >

> > > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have

been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning

sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after

eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage,

followed by a wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm.

It lasted for a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder,

neck, and arm. I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This

was surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a

healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits.

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue?

Maybe I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance?

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > >

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Hi ... Milk thistle is an excellent herb for the liver and

gallbladder. I highly recommended a good standardized extract. Hub and I

take it and we give a liquid to our daughter to help with detox and

dealing with the antibiotics.

Jen :)

Lymie parents, 5yo Lymie/Aspie

On 11/23/2010 2:39 PM, jcoughlin1011 wrote:

>

> I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have

> been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain

> (burning sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday,

> about an hour after eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my

> right side under my rib cage, followed by a wave of pain around the

> back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for a few minutes

> and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. I

> saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was

> surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat

> a healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits.

>

> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue?

> Maybe I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance?

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

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  • 1 month later...

Thank you for the advice. I changed my diet a little while back even before the

surgery. I even did the Edgar Cayce castor oil therapy but only for one week. I

did have the gallbladder attacks too and they were awful. I just don't know why

am I still in so much pain everyday. Looking back to how it started you are kind

of right. I think it might be the esophagus and even an ulcer but it's so hard

to communicate with the doctors. I don't understand why would they try to give

me anxiety and depression pills instead of helping me. I am very sick and do not

have insurance nor even any family in America for a little support. I am so

tired...

>

> ,

>

> None of your symptoms sound like gall bladder to me, but I don't know what the

> rest of the group would say. Three things jumped out out me...drinking, poor

> diet and the indigestion. All of these things I've had. The pain that you

> describe in chest and throat could be from weeks, or months of irritation of

the

> stomach and esophagus. Diet is absolutely key to recovery and it sounds like

you

> could do with some fasting. Stop eating for a few days and drink only water

with

> a little fresh lemon squeezed in it and see if your symptoms improve. You

need

> to stay away from all the things you know are bad, fast food, smoking,

drinking.

> If the fasting helps, you will know your problem has to do with what's going

in

> your mouth. In the meantime, I would make sure you don't have some

complication

> from the surgery. Have you been in communication with your surgeon and shared

> this information with him or her? Also in the meantime, research healthy diets

> on the internet. There are cheap ways to eat well. Oh, and be absolutely

sure

> to stay away from sugar and soda, processed foods, junk food, etc. Soda never

> fails to give me indigestion...and I mean NEVER. Same with beer. Good luck

>

>

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.. I was thinking that too. What did you do?

.. I had been thinking I might do a gallbladder cleanse again. I

normally do it right after the holidays after I've eaten junk food. Last

time was in January, I didn't get much from the last one.. My mom had bad

gallbladder problems, she just had hers taken out a couple years ago, she

was 68 at then. I told her to try cleanse first but she was in too much pain

and went to the doctor instead. I have done the cleanse with lemon juice

olive oil and epsom salt. Does anyone know anything better, or anything

else to consider?

Thank you, Lori

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of s.l-c.o

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:30 AM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Probiotics

----- llje,

When I read about your feeling sick during the night, the thought came to my

mind if you might have gall bladder problems? Too much fat or oil from nuts

and oils could cause a problem if so. (It's happened to me)

Just a thought,

Louise

I have used them, only one at night, and regular probiotic in the mornings,

but ran out, and have not used them in a few months, but thought they were

good and seemed to have less bloating, and help with regularity. (which I

seem to have when I eat much coconut oil. Along with weight gain. Also

there's been times I wake up in the night feeling nauseated, which is a new

thing for me.) I read on earth clinic that many people had problems with the

coconut oil too. Do you all know if it's something that goes away after a

while? The blood type diet says it's not good for blood type A. But I don't

know that they tested raw extra virgin coconut oil back when they did the

test?) When I stopped eating coconut oil and the almond butter I lost the

5 lbs that I gained and started using it again, but much less of it and I

seemed okay for a while, but I over done it again and gained the 5 lbs back.

Could be that I can't have it with almond butter, daily I eat almonds or

walnuts, and that with my krill oil in the mornings, and fish oil in the

evenings, and if I have salad my dressing is made with lemon and flax oil or

olive oil. Maybe I'm getting way too much fat. That's what comes to mind

when wake up in the night feeling almost sick to my stomach. I don't eat

sugar, or flour products except rawer occasion, if I eat bread it's once a

week, Ezekiel bread. I eat meat sometimes, but not much, I like fish

better. And love my fruit and vegies. I do eat organic yogurt and cheese.

Mostly sheep cheese. and protein powder after my workout; Whey or pea. If

anyone knows what protein powder company is best to buy I'd like to know

that too. Sorry for the side trip here, but if anyone has anything to say

about this I'm listening. Some people don't think 5lbs is a big deal, but

for me it is a matter of fitting my pants. And I'm not buying bigger

clothes. I know I have to discipline myself better with the coconut oil

mixed with almond butter, and make time to eat right when I'm busy so I

don't overdo it on all the fat with its high calories. I'm preaching to

myself. Thanks for any wisdom sent my way.

Anyway I thought I'd try these probiotics again. I just bought more and

started them this time I'm taking one at night and in the morning, this

time. Here's a link where you can get them the best price I've found.

http://www.probiotics12plus.com/discountCapsules.htm 2 boxes of 120 cap.

$63.00 and free shipping.

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I just found this statement below, on this site

http://www.coconut-oil-central.com/coconut-oil-gallbladder.html Has anyone

had experience with gallbladder and coconut oil?

Coconut oil in your diet is a safe and efficient method of addressing

gallstones. The monoglycerides and diglycerides of caprylic acid and capric

acid have been found to dissolve human gallstones. Caprylic (C8) and Capric

(C10) acids are two of coconut oil's potent medium chain fatty acids (MCFA).

The Mayo Clinic and the University of Wisconsin Hospital are witnesses to

this totally noninvasive approach using coconut oil.

Also this site had a lot of info

http://www.livercleansingfoods.net/tag/gall-bladder

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of llje

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:55 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: RE: gallbladder

.. I was thinking that too. What did you do?

.. I had been thinking I might do a gallbladder cleanse again. I

normally do it right after the holidays after I've eaten junk food. Last

time was in January, I didn't get much from the last one.. My mom had bad

gallbladder problems, she just had hers taken out a couple years ago, she

was 68 at then. I told her to try cleanse first but she was in too much pain

and went to the doctor instead. I have done the cleanse with lemon juice

olive oil and epsom salt. Does anyone know anything better, or anything

else to consider?

Thank you, Lori

From: Coconut Oil

<mailto:Coconut Oil%40>

[mailto:Coconut Oil

<mailto:Coconut Oil%40> ] On Behalf Of s.l-c.o

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:30 AM

Coconut Oil

<mailto:Coconut Oil%40>

Subject: Re: Probiotics

----- llje,

When I read about your feeling sick during the night, the thought came to my

mind if you might have gall bladder problems? Too much fat or oil from nuts

and oils could cause a problem if so. (It's happened to me)

Just a thought,

Louise

I have used them, only one at night, and regular probiotic in the mornings,

but ran out, and have not used them in a few months, but thought they were

good and seemed to have less bloating, and help with regularity. (which I

seem to have when I eat much coconut oil. Along with weight gain. Also

there's been times I wake up in the night feeling nauseated, which is a new

thing for me.) I read on earth clinic that many people had problems with the

coconut oil too. Do you all know if it's something that goes away after a

while? The blood type diet says it's not good for blood type A. But I don't

know that they tested raw extra virgin coconut oil back when they did the

test?) When I stopped eating coconut oil and the almond butter I lost the

5 lbs that I gained and started using it again, but much less of it and I

seemed okay for a while, but I over done it again and gained the 5 lbs back.

Could be that I can't have it with almond butter, daily I eat almonds or

walnuts, and that with my krill oil in the mornings, and fish oil in the

evenings, and if I have salad my dressing is made with lemon and flax oil or

olive oil. Maybe I'm getting way too much fat. That's what comes to mind

when wake up in the night feeling almost sick to my stomach. I don't eat

sugar, or flour products except rawer occasion, if I eat bread it's once a

week, Ezekiel bread. I eat meat sometimes, but not much, I like fish

better. And love my fruit and vegies. I do eat organic yogurt and cheese.

Mostly sheep cheese. and protein powder after my workout; Whey or pea. If

anyone knows what protein powder company is best to buy I'd like to know

that too. Sorry for the side trip here, but if anyone has anything to say

about this I'm listening. Some people don't think 5lbs is a big deal, but

for me it is a matter of fitting my pants. And I'm not buying bigger

clothes. I know I have to discipline myself better with the coconut oil

mixed with almond butter, and make time to eat right when I'm busy so I

don't overdo it on all the fat with its high calories. I'm preaching to

myself. Thanks for any wisdom sent my way.

Anyway I thought I'd try these probiotics again. I just bought more and

started them this time I'm taking one at night and in the morning, this

time. Here's a link where you can get them the best price I've found.

http://www.probiotics12plus.com/discountCapsules.htm 2 boxes of 120 cap.

$63.00 and free shipping.

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