Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Hi,This does not sounds as scary as I thought it would be.I am wishing you all the best when you get the gal bladder removed.ny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Thanks ny. I'm not worried. It sounds like a simple procedure. Debbie > > Hi, > This does not sounds as scary as I thought it would be. > I am wishing you all the best when you get the gal bladder removed. > > ny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 that is good!I might have to do this myself.ny From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 2:10:23 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Gallbladder Thanks ny. I'm not worried. It sounds like a simple procedure. Debbie > > Hi, > This does not sounds as scary as I thought it would be. > I am wishing you all the best when you get the gal bladder removed. > > ny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 It really isnt so bad at all and you will feel so much better after it is gone. Did they say why they are ready to take it out? From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 6:30:41 PMSubject: [ ] Gallbladder I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1 to 1-1/2 hours.Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Beth, The ultrasound I had yesterday showed 2 stones. My Dr. said if the pain wasn't gone after like 12 hours, he would do the watchfull waiting, but since I have had this pain for almost a week now, nonstop pretty much is his main reason why now. Gallbladder trouble tends to run in the family and my dad had his out when I was in high school. When he came out of surgery and woke up he had the hiccups for 17 days straight.NONSTOP. I trust my DR. He's been my dr for 28 yrs. He was a new Dr. then. He knows me well and will take the time to explain things to me or listen to me. Debbie > > It really isnt so bad at all and you will feel so much better after it is gone. Did they say why they are ready to take it out? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...> > > Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 6:30:41 PM > Subject: [ ] Gallbladder > >  > I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1 to 1-1/2 hours. > > Debbie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 That is to funny hiccupped for 17 days, I do hiccup sometimes but it is just like once or twice usllay after lunch From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 8:24:14 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Gallbladder Beth,The ultrasound I had yesterday showed 2 stones. My Dr. said if the pain wasn't gone after like 12 hours, he would do the watchfull waiting, but since I have had this pain for almost a week now, nonstop pretty much is his main reason why now. Gallbladder trouble tends to run in the family and my dad had his out when I was in high school. When he came out of surgery and woke up he had the hiccups for 17 days straight.NONSTOP. I trust my DR. He's been my dr for 28 yrs. He was a new Dr. then. He knows me well and will take the time to explain things to me or listen to me.Debbie>> It really isnt so bad at all and you will feel so much better after it is gone. Did they say why they are ready to take it out?> > > > > ________________________________> From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...>> > Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 6:30:41 PM> Subject: [ ] Gallbladder> > Â > I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1 to 1-1/2 hours.> > Debbie> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Yeah me too and after I eat ice cream. Before my father died for several months before, he would get those hiccups nonstop sometimes for weeks on end. It really wore him out and he had a bad heart. His heart gave out and he passed and I was too far away to get to him before he died. I was mommy's girl and daddy's boy. Debbie > > > > It really isnt so bad at all and you will feel so much better after it is gone. Did they say why they are ready to take it out? > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@> > > > > Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 6:30:41 PM > > Subject: [ ] Gallbladder > > > >  > > I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1 to 1-1/2 hours. > > > > Debbie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Oh, I am glad for you DebbieYou don't need the pain from the gallbladder when you are facing treatmentGloria I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1 to 1-1/2 hours. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 I am sorry about your dad, I lost mine in 2004, bad heart, I was daddys girl. He had always had problems but always worked and they did 7 bypasses and gave him 5 yrs if he quit smoking, he didnt quit but lived 11yrs. And then had a massive. From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@...> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 9:14:43 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Gallbladder Yeah me too and after I eat ice cream. Before my father died for several months before, he would get those hiccups nonstop sometimes for weeks on end. It really wore him out and he had a bad heart. His heart gave out and he passed and I was too far away to get to him before he died. I was mommy's girl and daddy's boy.Debbie> >> > It really isnt so bad at all and you will feel so much better after it is gone. Did they say why they are ready to take it out?> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > From: sparkles43d <sparkles43d@>> > > > Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 6:30:41 PM> > Subject: [ ] Gallbladder> > > >  > > I just got back from seeing the surgeon. I go in next Wed. to have my gallbladder removed. It'll be done like Don said Lapersocopy. Outpatient takes 1 to 1-1/2 hours.> > > > Debbie> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I am not sure what is causing the gallbladder issue for you. My gallbladder/liver region has been painful too the last couple of days and I have been on the protocol for 3 weeks now. I started taking a product by Standard Process called A-F Betafood, prescribed by my chiropractor/kinesiologist. It gets the bile moving. It has seemed to help a little. I thought I read somewhere that Cats Claw can have an effect on the liver. Perhaps that is what is causing it. Cassano VT PBiS Coach 802-236-6637 snowgirlvt@... PRIVACY & Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I've gotten lots of strange sharp pains in different areas of my body since I started treatment for Lyme. I'm hoping it's detox, but I couldn't say for sure. Connie [ ] Gallbladder I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits. Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance? Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 sounds like gallbladder to me too. try a liver cleanse like coffee enema's or Dr Hulda 's -lots of Lymies have diseased gallbladders. ~dory From: jcoughlin1011 <jcoughlin1011@...> Subject: [ ] Gallbladder Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 2:39 PM  I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits. Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance? Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 > sounds like typical herx reactions to me; usually these disappear or move to another spot within a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 , I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece of the Lyme puzzle for me. Good luck, Phil > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits. > > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance? > > Thank you, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 How do all of you know that your liver/gall bladder is bothering you? What are specific symptoms of liver and/or gallbladder issues? I just feel crummy. Jay [ ] Re: Gallbladder , I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece of the Lyme puzzle for me. Good luck, Phil > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits. > > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance? > > Thank you, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Here's some info on the TCM liver. My biggest livery Lyme symptom is muscle soreness and stiffness, which is the liver not doing it's job of moving qi. Lots of good stuff here: http://tcm.health-info.org/Zang%20Fu%20foundation/Liver.htm > > How do all of you know that your liver/gall bladder is bothering you? What are specific symptoms of liver and/or gallbladder issues? I just feel crummy. > Jay > [ ] Re: Gallbladder > > > > , > > I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece of the Lyme puzzle for me. > > Good luck, > > Phil > > > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits. > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance? > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 HadleyPR, Thank you very much. I work a 45+ hour week & exercise every other day with weights.....Burrascano was HIGHLY recommended weights etc. so muscles would not atrophy forever. I will studdy further...so you believe most of my muscle issues are liver related in contrast to disease per se (bacteria) I have a friend who has done a dozen hulda clarl cleanses & has seen very little relief, so I am in a quandary...and taking all the time to do things like that, and wrecking the gut gives me pause. MY ND is recommending Pekana products...... Jazzman [ ] Re: Gallbladder > > > > , > > I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece of the Lyme puzzle for me. > > Good luck, > > Phil > > > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits. > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance? > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Before my gall bladder ruptured i had intense pain but that took awhile at first it was about a year year in a half of back pain i didn't even know it was my Gallbladder at first some people have different symptoms Mine started out with like i said some back pain and heart burn that increased the pain in my mid back got so intense that i was rushed to the hospital where i found out my gallbladder was in bad shape,Me being a dummy went home the next day went back and ruptured it my surgery took over 6 hours due to complications ... Dont be stupid like me if you think you have a problem get it looked at soon,I wish you the best ..Liver problems are tricky i became jaundice before i even knew i had a problem ,i didn't really have any pain but i also take pain meds on a daily basis for other health reasons.. Happy Thanksgiving everyone , ________________________________ From: Jay A. Rovert <jay12@...> Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 9:03:58 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Gallbladder How do all of you know that your liver/gall bladder is bothering you? What are specific symptoms of liver and/or gallbladder issues? I just feel crummy. Jay [ ] Re: Gallbladder , I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece of the Lyme puzzle for me. Good luck, Phil > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been >feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation, >stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a >salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a >wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for >a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. >I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising, >as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no >dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits. > > > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm >detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance? > > > Thank you, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 From: Jay A. Rovert <jay12@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Gallbladder Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 9:03 PM Â How do all of you know that your liver/gall bladder is bothering you? What are specific symptoms of liver and/or gallbladder issues? I just feel crummy. Jay right upper quadrant abdominal pain that can radiate to the back or shoulders, indigestion, nausea, chest pain etc. Droy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I do have heartburn, but was diagnosed with Crohns 30 years ago...... Jay [ ] Re: Gallbladder , I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece of the Lyme puzzle for me. Good luck, Phil > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been >feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation, >stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a >salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a >wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for >a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. >I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising, >as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no >dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits. > > > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm >detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance? > > > Thank you, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Jazzman, No, my statements do not discount your disease diagnosis. Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) is a very old tradition of holistic medicine that is very different from allopathic (i.e. Western) medicine. The TCM model of medicine is completely independent of the Western model, so any TCM diagnoses that are assigned to you do not contradict your Western medicine diagnoses in any way. To illustrative the difference, here's a simple example: You might say you have a headache, and your Western doctor would diagnose it as a migrane and prescribe a pain reliever like Tylenol. In contrast, upon hearing your headache symptom, a TCM doc would evaluate your body language, mannerisms, look at your tongue, take your pulse, ask about your bowel movements, etc.. before assigning a diagnosis. Then s/he would make some recommendations to alleviate your " big picture " health pattern, such as acupuncture, chinese herbs, tui na massage, and lifestyle and diet recommendations. Personally, I enjoy the involvement that chinese medicine provides the client, because I get to be responsible for my own health. I have been receiving acupuncture and chinese herbs from TCM docs for 10 years. In my experience, TCM excels at health maintenance and chronic conditions such as Lyme. The Buhner protocol is not a TCM herb formula, but it does contain some chinese herbs (as the book states). While taking the protocol for the past 8 months, I have worked with my TCM doc to support the rest of my health picture to deal with the side effects of the Buhner protocol healing process. A lot more could be said, but I have other work to do. If you're interested, I'll recommend a couple of books: Healing with Whole Foods Pitchford This is a book on nutrition from a TCM perspective, but it is a good starting point for understanding the basic TCM health model. The Web That Has No Weaver Ted Kaptchuk A classic text, written by a westerner when TCM first started gaining recognition in the West. Between Heaven and Earth Harriet Beinfield and Efrem Korngold A more in-depth description of the TCM model. I enjoyed reading about the personality types. HTH, Phil > > > > How do all of you know that your liver/gall bladder is bothering you? What are specific symptoms of liver and/or gallbladder issues? I just feel crummy. > > Jay > > [ ] Re: Gallbladder > > > > > > > > , > > > > I highly recommend finding a skilled chinese medicine -based herbalist to help with your " livery " symptoms. I have had similar experiences on the Buhner protocol, and I'm also on a very clean diet. With spirochete toxins being expelled every day, it is easy to overburden the liver/gallbladder. For me, that means easy-to-digest diet, keeping my physical exertion low, and awareness practices to deal with stress. To illustrate my point, one of the chinese herbal formulas for liver problems is translated into English as " Free and Easy Wanderer " . The liver likes stress-free living, whether it be physical or emotional, so find a way to slow down and be happy... This has been a big piece of the Lyme puzzle for me. > > > > Good luck, > > > > Phil > > > > > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain (burning sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, about an hour after eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my right side under my rib cage, followed by a wave of pain around the back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for a few minutes and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. I saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat a healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits. > > > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? Maybe I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Hi ... Milk thistle is an excellent herb for the liver and gallbladder. I highly recommended a good standardized extract. Hub and I take it and we give a liquid to our daughter to help with detox and dealing with the antibiotics. Jen Lymie parents, 5yo Lymie/Aspie On 11/23/2010 2:39 PM, jcoughlin1011 wrote: > > I started knotweed, cat's claw, and eluethero three weeks ago and have > been feeling pretty good. However, I've had intense shoulder pain > (burning sensation, stiff, and achy) for a few months. Yesterday, > about an hour after eating a salad, I had this intense pain on my > right side under my rib cage, followed by a wave of pain around the > back of my right shoulder, neck, and arm. It lasted for a few minutes > and passed. Today, I'm left with an achy shoulder, neck, and arm. I > saw my chiro today and he suggested it's my gallbladder. This was > surprising, as I thought a poor diet caused gallbladder issues. I eat > a healthy diet with no dairy or gluten and lots of fresh veggies/fruits. > > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what could be causing this issue? > Maybe I'm detoxing? Maybe a hormonal imbalance? > > Thank you, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Thank you for the advice. I changed my diet a little while back even before the surgery. I even did the Edgar Cayce castor oil therapy but only for one week. I did have the gallbladder attacks too and they were awful. I just don't know why am I still in so much pain everyday. Looking back to how it started you are kind of right. I think it might be the esophagus and even an ulcer but it's so hard to communicate with the doctors. I don't understand why would they try to give me anxiety and depression pills instead of helping me. I am very sick and do not have insurance nor even any family in America for a little support. I am so tired... > > , > > None of your symptoms sound like gall bladder to me, but I don't know what the > rest of the group would say. Three things jumped out out me...drinking, poor > diet and the indigestion. All of these things I've had. The pain that you > describe in chest and throat could be from weeks, or months of irritation of the > stomach and esophagus. Diet is absolutely key to recovery and it sounds like you > could do with some fasting. Stop eating for a few days and drink only water with > a little fresh lemon squeezed in it and see if your symptoms improve. You need > to stay away from all the things you know are bad, fast food, smoking, drinking. > If the fasting helps, you will know your problem has to do with what's going in > your mouth. In the meantime, I would make sure you don't have some complication > from the surgery. Have you been in communication with your surgeon and shared > this information with him or her? Also in the meantime, research healthy diets > on the internet. There are cheap ways to eat well. Oh, and be absolutely sure > to stay away from sugar and soda, processed foods, junk food, etc. Soda never > fails to give me indigestion...and I mean NEVER. Same with beer. Good luck > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 .. I was thinking that too. What did you do? .. I had been thinking I might do a gallbladder cleanse again. I normally do it right after the holidays after I've eaten junk food. Last time was in January, I didn't get much from the last one.. My mom had bad gallbladder problems, she just had hers taken out a couple years ago, she was 68 at then. I told her to try cleanse first but she was in too much pain and went to the doctor instead. I have done the cleanse with lemon juice olive oil and epsom salt. Does anyone know anything better, or anything else to consider? Thank you, Lori From: Coconut Oil [mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of s.l-c.o Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:30 AM Coconut Oil Subject: Re: Probiotics ----- llje, When I read about your feeling sick during the night, the thought came to my mind if you might have gall bladder problems? Too much fat or oil from nuts and oils could cause a problem if so. (It's happened to me) Just a thought, Louise I have used them, only one at night, and regular probiotic in the mornings, but ran out, and have not used them in a few months, but thought they were good and seemed to have less bloating, and help with regularity. (which I seem to have when I eat much coconut oil. Along with weight gain. Also there's been times I wake up in the night feeling nauseated, which is a new thing for me.) I read on earth clinic that many people had problems with the coconut oil too. Do you all know if it's something that goes away after a while? The blood type diet says it's not good for blood type A. But I don't know that they tested raw extra virgin coconut oil back when they did the test?) When I stopped eating coconut oil and the almond butter I lost the 5 lbs that I gained and started using it again, but much less of it and I seemed okay for a while, but I over done it again and gained the 5 lbs back. Could be that I can't have it with almond butter, daily I eat almonds or walnuts, and that with my krill oil in the mornings, and fish oil in the evenings, and if I have salad my dressing is made with lemon and flax oil or olive oil. Maybe I'm getting way too much fat. That's what comes to mind when wake up in the night feeling almost sick to my stomach. I don't eat sugar, or flour products except rawer occasion, if I eat bread it's once a week, Ezekiel bread. I eat meat sometimes, but not much, I like fish better. And love my fruit and vegies. I do eat organic yogurt and cheese. Mostly sheep cheese. and protein powder after my workout; Whey or pea. If anyone knows what protein powder company is best to buy I'd like to know that too. Sorry for the side trip here, but if anyone has anything to say about this I'm listening. Some people don't think 5lbs is a big deal, but for me it is a matter of fitting my pants. And I'm not buying bigger clothes. I know I have to discipline myself better with the coconut oil mixed with almond butter, and make time to eat right when I'm busy so I don't overdo it on all the fat with its high calories. I'm preaching to myself. Thanks for any wisdom sent my way. Anyway I thought I'd try these probiotics again. I just bought more and started them this time I'm taking one at night and in the morning, this time. Here's a link where you can get them the best price I've found. http://www.probiotics12plus.com/discountCapsules.htm 2 boxes of 120 cap. $63.00 and free shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I just found this statement below, on this site http://www.coconut-oil-central.com/coconut-oil-gallbladder.html Has anyone had experience with gallbladder and coconut oil? Coconut oil in your diet is a safe and efficient method of addressing gallstones. The monoglycerides and diglycerides of caprylic acid and capric acid have been found to dissolve human gallstones. Caprylic (C8) and Capric (C10) acids are two of coconut oil's potent medium chain fatty acids (MCFA). The Mayo Clinic and the University of Wisconsin Hospital are witnesses to this totally noninvasive approach using coconut oil. Also this site had a lot of info http://www.livercleansingfoods.net/tag/gall-bladder From: Coconut Oil [mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of llje Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:55 PM Coconut Oil Subject: RE: gallbladder .. I was thinking that too. What did you do? .. I had been thinking I might do a gallbladder cleanse again. I normally do it right after the holidays after I've eaten junk food. Last time was in January, I didn't get much from the last one.. My mom had bad gallbladder problems, she just had hers taken out a couple years ago, she was 68 at then. I told her to try cleanse first but she was in too much pain and went to the doctor instead. I have done the cleanse with lemon juice olive oil and epsom salt. Does anyone know anything better, or anything else to consider? Thank you, Lori From: Coconut Oil <mailto:Coconut Oil%40> [mailto:Coconut Oil <mailto:Coconut Oil%40> ] On Behalf Of s.l-c.o Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:30 AM Coconut Oil <mailto:Coconut Oil%40> Subject: Re: Probiotics ----- llje, When I read about your feeling sick during the night, the thought came to my mind if you might have gall bladder problems? Too much fat or oil from nuts and oils could cause a problem if so. (It's happened to me) Just a thought, Louise I have used them, only one at night, and regular probiotic in the mornings, but ran out, and have not used them in a few months, but thought they were good and seemed to have less bloating, and help with regularity. (which I seem to have when I eat much coconut oil. Along with weight gain. Also there's been times I wake up in the night feeling nauseated, which is a new thing for me.) I read on earth clinic that many people had problems with the coconut oil too. Do you all know if it's something that goes away after a while? The blood type diet says it's not good for blood type A. But I don't know that they tested raw extra virgin coconut oil back when they did the test?) When I stopped eating coconut oil and the almond butter I lost the 5 lbs that I gained and started using it again, but much less of it and I seemed okay for a while, but I over done it again and gained the 5 lbs back. Could be that I can't have it with almond butter, daily I eat almonds or walnuts, and that with my krill oil in the mornings, and fish oil in the evenings, and if I have salad my dressing is made with lemon and flax oil or olive oil. Maybe I'm getting way too much fat. That's what comes to mind when wake up in the night feeling almost sick to my stomach. I don't eat sugar, or flour products except rawer occasion, if I eat bread it's once a week, Ezekiel bread. I eat meat sometimes, but not much, I like fish better. And love my fruit and vegies. I do eat organic yogurt and cheese. Mostly sheep cheese. and protein powder after my workout; Whey or pea. If anyone knows what protein powder company is best to buy I'd like to know that too. Sorry for the side trip here, but if anyone has anything to say about this I'm listening. Some people don't think 5lbs is a big deal, but for me it is a matter of fitting my pants. And I'm not buying bigger clothes. I know I have to discipline myself better with the coconut oil mixed with almond butter, and make time to eat right when I'm busy so I don't overdo it on all the fat with its high calories. I'm preaching to myself. Thanks for any wisdom sent my way. Anyway I thought I'd try these probiotics again. I just bought more and started them this time I'm taking one at night and in the morning, this time. Here's a link where you can get them the best price I've found. http://www.probiotics12plus.com/discountCapsules.htm 2 boxes of 120 cap. $63.00 and free shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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