Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 I'll put some additional info up and post a url to it shortly. What kind of iodine did you use? Cheers, _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Victor & Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: [ ] Re: iodine I am very interested in this as my husband and I both have extensive family histories of thyroid problems. When I did the " patch " test last summer. My son's disappeared in less than an hour, my daughter's in less than two hours, my husband in three and me in less than about four hours. My son had a bump on his neck (like a big adams apple) that I brought to the attention of several mds and specifically asked if it was related to thyroid because my son had antibodies to his thyroid at two years. After no one seemed to know what it was I learned of the " patch " test and began supplementing us with iodine. His bump is gone. Our patch lasts longer 8+ hours but I still feel cold all the time. Our hair iodine is all low. Anything you can share would be helpful. Thanks. > > you can actually have a good store of iodine but it not be able to be used > because mercury has disrupted deiodinase (selenium bound to cysteine) in the > liver, so the liver can't extract it (also T4-T3 conversion requires this). > This happens quite often in hypothyroidism conditions where iodine doesn't > work to raise the temp sometimes selenium does. Coconut oil is a good > selenium source. > > Iodine also pushes organic mercury out of tissue. It's even used to do this > in slide samples of tissue in biology. So taking iodine by itself (like > drops of Lugol's Iodine multiple times per day) will accellerate pushing > methylated mercury that is in cells out in some inorganic or salt form. If > you have a high burden of methylmercury or mercury this can cause great > distress. > > I've been researching the best way to restore iodine reserves in the > presence of mercury, and have a lot of info on what happens to the body and > it's usage of iodine if you want to see some of it I can put the messages up > and post a link to them. > > Here is one old message that has a lot of good info about mercury and > iodine. > > http://www.mastermindresearch.com/btm/modules/dokuwiki/doku.php? id=gary:msgm > ercuryiodine > > Cheers, > > > > > > _____ > > From: [mailto:Autism- Mercury ] > On Behalf Of slkbrooke@a... > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:33 PM > > Subject: [ ] iodine > > > In a message dated 1/30/2006 1:40:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > writes: > Can someone explain to me how Iodine helps to chelate metals, > > especially mercury? This is a new one for me. > > I don't think iodine chelates anything. > > > Valentina > My son and I can't tolerate iodine supplementation. Even the daily > recommended dosage gives us a severe migraine. My son has low thyroid. > I've read that > iodine can either be good for thyroid or can have negative reactions with > thyroid issues. Just wanted to mention this for anyone who's considering > it. > > Sharon > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 The name of the iodine product that has been referenced here today is iodoral. you can find some interesting write ups on it. I found out about it through the vrp.com newsletter. the idea is that you first get your iodine excretion rate tested (it's been awhile, so i may be off on this). typically this test (taking controlled doses of iodine before the test) will show that an iodine deficient person excretes very little of this iodine. The next step is to take 1 iodoral pill a day (each pill is 12.5mg, which is MUCH much much higher than other iodine supplements) for one week. The second week is 2 a day. The third week is 3 a day. The fourth week is 4 a day, for a total of 50mg a day. this is then continued to about 3 months, where your iodine excretion rate is tested again. at this point, it's common to drop the dose down to one pill a day again, and you keep taking this as the maintenance dose. nowhere has it been said that this product chelates mercury. it has claimed that it helps the body excrete various heavy metals, including mercury. i have no idea about such claims. if anyone is interested in purchasing it, i have found that it's most economical to buy it in the larger size. it comes in 90 tablets for about $25 (on average) and 180 tablets for around $50. however, i have found that you can get the 180 tablet bottle for $40 plus shipping from illnessisoptional.com, plus shipping of about $4-5 for usps priority mail. vrp.com has it for $50, but if you do the auto reorder program, they drop it by 20% (as they do all their products) down to $40 as well, plus shipping and handling. i've had good experiences with both companies, but prefer not to do the auto reorder. one thing about illnessisoptional. their website is a nitemare to browse through. in fact, i tried to use their feature to compile a pdf document to see all that they had, and the resulting document was 100's of pages long (they must have thousands of products), and took forever to process. i've never seen anything like it. therefore, if you want to order from them, just do a search for the exact product you are seeking. oh, and i do think i've had positive results with this stuff. i believe i have a better sense of well being, as well as being somewhat more tolerant to temperatures. dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Does anybody know the pediatric ref ranges for the free T3, been trying to track those down, with little luck. [ ] Re: iodine Unfortunately, finding a good doc who understand these things is the problem. Most still go by old testing info. Because I recognized the problem before we found docs and have been treating it with iodine and VCO, things often appear in " normal " range, but I know things aren't right still. I told DAN at last visit what I was doing and she just said it is great that he has such a smart mom... I called back last week to ask her to retest his TSH/free T3, etc. but I don't know what the pediatric references are. I don't think that she is too familiar with the ones that don't fit " normal " profiles. > > > > I am very interested in this as my husband and I both have extensive > > family histories of thyroid problems. > > I think supplementing with Armour thyroid is a more effective way to > deal with hypothyroid (you'd have to go to a doc who prescribes it, > often an OD or complemetary medicine MD). I think I remember that > everyone gets plenty of iodine in food and so it's using the iodine > that's the problem, not the supply. > > Nell > ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 I used one by Thorne for me. I used E-lyte drops for the kids. Thanks. > > > > you can actually have a good store of iodine but it not be able to > be used > > because mercury has disrupted deiodinase (selenium bound to > cysteine) in the > > liver, so the liver can't extract it (also T4-T3 conversion > requires this). > > This happens quite often in hypothyroidism conditions where iodine > doesn't > > work to raise the temp sometimes selenium does. Coconut oil is a > good > > selenium source. > > > > Iodine also pushes organic mercury out of tissue. It's even used > to do this > > in slide samples of tissue in biology. So taking iodine by itself > (like > > drops of Lugol's Iodine multiple times per day) will accellerate > pushing > > methylated mercury that is in cells out in some inorganic or salt > form. If > > you have a high burden of methylmercury or mercury this can cause > great > > distress. > > > > I've been researching the best way to restore iodine reserves in > the > > presence of mercury, and have a lot of info on what happens to the > body and > > it's usage of iodine if you want to see some of it I can put the > messages up > > and post a link to them. > > > > Here is one old message that has a lot of good info about mercury > and > > iodine. > > > > http://www.mastermindresearch.com/btm/modules/dokuwiki/doku.php? > id=gary:msgm > > ercuryiodine > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: [mailto:Autism- > Mercury ] > > On Behalf Of slkbrooke@a... > > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:33 PM > > > > Subject: [ ] iodine > > > > > > In a message dated 1/30/2006 1:40:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > writes: > > Can someone explain to me how Iodine helps to chelate metals, > > > especially mercury? This is a new one for me. > > > > I don't think iodine chelates anything. > > > > > > Valentina > > My son and I can't tolerate iodine supplementation. Even the > daily > > recommended dosage gives us a severe migraine. My son has low > thyroid. > > I've read that > > iodine can either be good for thyroid or can have negative > reactions with > > thyroid issues. Just wanted to mention this for anyone who's > considering > > it. > > > > Sharon > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 No but I would be very interested also. Thanks. > > > > > > I am very interested in this as my husband and I both have > extensive > > > family histories of thyroid problems. > > > > I think supplementing with Armour thyroid is a more effective way > to > > deal with hypothyroid (you'd have to go to a doc who prescribes it, > > often an OD or complemetary medicine MD). I think I remember that > > everyone gets plenty of iodine in food and so it's using the iodine > > that's the problem, not the supply. > > > > Nell > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 I know Andy gave the free T3 for a 6 yr female ref. range 2.7-6.2, but don''t know how that translates for a 4.11 yr female. He said the free T4 would be 0.9-1.9, again assuming that is for a female, 6 years old. [ ] Re: iodine No but I would be very interested also. Thanks. > > > > > > I am very interested in this as my husband and I both have > extensive > > > family histories of thyroid problems. > > > > I think supplementing with Armour thyroid is a more effective way > to > > deal with hypothyroid (you'd have to go to a doc who prescribes it, > > often an OD or complemetary medicine MD). I think I remember that > > everyone gets plenty of iodine in food and so it's using the iodine > > that's the problem, not the supply. > > > > Nell > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 > My son had a bump on his neck (like a > big adams apple) that I brought to the attention of several mds and > specifically asked if it was related to thyroid because my son had > antibodies to his thyroid at two years. After no one seemed to know > what it was You mean the doctors didn't know what it was?? Was it a goiter? > I learned of the " patch " test and began supplementing us > with iodine. His bump is gone. Our patch lasts longer 8+ hours but > I still feel cold all the time. Our hair iodine is all low. You might want to supplement selenium also, see if it helps. Also, check the adrenals too, just in case. Sometimes both glands are malfunctioning because they work together (well, kind of) and one cannot heal because the other one is still not working properly. Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 > I know Andy gave the free T3 for a 6 yr female ref. range 2.7-6.2, but don''t know how that translates for a 4.11 yr female. > > He said the free T4 would be 0.9-1.9, again assuming that is for a female, 6 years old. > , for free T3 try this link: http://www.labcorp.com/datasets/labcorp/html/chapter/mono/ri009800.htm For free T4 and others try this link: http://www.shmc.org/var/documents/lab/Pediatric%20Normals%20Update.pdf Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 susan, ....isn't iodine only needed in trace amounts? I'm not sure the absolute amounts needed. The fact is that many people are deficient. There are some simple methods to determine iodine sufficiency before supplementing. >too much is as harmful as too little, for things like thyroid. There are certainly problems that come with an over-abundance of iodine, and it's not something with which to supplement recklessly. > and doesn't everyone here eat plenty of good grey ocean salt? i would > think that it would supply our daily requirements of iodine. Grey sea salt isn't an adequate source of iodine. The deal with iodine is that chlorine and flourine displace it in the iodine receptors. It's important to remove these in order to get the iodine into the thyroid and breast tissue--and wherever else it goes. If you are actually curious about the issue of iodine insufficiency and supplementation--and not just opining randomly--I suggest you check out this list: iodine/ read the files section; the owner/moderator has done a fantastic job of organizing the aggregate of information. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 I have some sea salt that states there is no iodine in it. How can this be? : ) Shery iodine i think i missed the beginning of this discussion, but anyway, isn't iodine only needed in trace amounts? too much is as harmful as too little, for things like thyroid. and doesn't everyone here eat plenty of good grey ocean salt? i would think that it would supply our daily requirements of iodine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 I have some sea salt that states there is no iodine in it. How can this be? : ) Shery ---->I'm sure it means they didn't *add* any iodine. CT ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.2/314 - Release Date: 4/16/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 On 4/20/06, downwardog7 wrote: > > > > and doesn't everyone here eat plenty of good grey ocean salt? i would > > think that it would supply our daily requirements of iodine. > > Grey sea salt isn't an adequate source of iodine. > > Celtic sea salt has practically no measurable iodine. I contacted them last year about this and that's what they told me. I was really upset about it at the time because that's the main reason that I was buying that particular (very expensive!) salt - since NT says iodine is the reason we should use that salt! Steph -- http://www.PraiseMoves.com The Christian Alternative to Yoga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 i am interested. signed up and awaiting approval of the owner to begin my reading. thanks for the reference teresa. ~ susan > If you are actually curious about the issue of iodine insufficiency > and supplementation--and not just opining randomly--I suggest you > check out this list: > > iodine/ > > read the files section; the owner/moderator has done a fantastic job > of organizing the aggregate of information. > B. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 > >Is there a good way to test for iodine deficiency? What's the best way to >get iodine? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 There have been extensive " threads " on this. Have you checked Onibasu and the list archives? Sharon On 7/20/06, Long <longc@...> wrote: > > > > > >Is there a good way to test for iodine deficiency? What's the best way to > > >get iodine? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I think youcan find that information at: http://www.iodine4health.com Irene At 05:57 PM 7/20/06, you wrote: > > > >Is there a good way to test for iodine deficiency? What's the best way to > >get iodine? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Here's the article, out of LewRockwell, which has some interesting info. www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html > > In a message dated 7/17/07 5:10:07 AM Central Standard Time, > haecklers@... writes: > > > > > > I just read a neat article that said iodine in the body acts in some > > ways very similarly to vitamin C, and is very anti-aging. >> > > Care to comment on the numerous articles..about Lugols solution, painting > your neck (inside?) and such things? I have read such lengthy articles but they > too long and I could not get the good out of what they were saying. > </HTML> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 iodine deficiency can also impair manganese and magnesium assimilation. saw this in a popular science piece - trying to verify with something a little more rigorous. -jennifer On Jul 17, 2007, at 5:11 PM, haecklers wrote: > Here's the article, out of LewRockwell, which has some interesting > info. > > > www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 i have the lugols and have not used it yet. can u tell me best time and how much?also, i am taking magnesium sulfate. i take 4 homeopathic pills at night. perhaps i should take more?diana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 I put 6 drops in water in the morning. Keep testing on your arm after about a month. Can't answer your question about Magnesium as I use Magnesium Chloride...probably not the same. Annedianagia <babygirl.di@...> wrote: i have the lugols and have not used it yet. can u tell me best time and how much?also, i am taking magnesium sulfate. i take 4 homeopathic pills at night. perhaps i should take more?diana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 it is now before lunch...can i take the lugols now? and what do i test for? diana > i have the lugols and have not used it yet. can u tell me best time and how much? > > also, i am taking magnesium sulfate. i take 4 homeopathic pills at night. perhaps i should take more? > > diana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Anne - What brand of Iodine are you using, and can I ask where you buy it? Thanks! At 02:15 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote: Diane, You can take iodine at any time of the day. I take it in the early am because it sometimes gives you instant energy and that might interfere with sleep if taken later in the day. To test for iodine take your dropper and put about a nickle sized drop on the inside of your wrist. If you have enough iodine in your system, the spot should last longer than 12 hours. If it disappears within a few hours, you need iodine. Anne TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Thank you, Anne. I will be ordering that, along with the Old Amish Dewormer. Your previous post has helped a lot of people on another list I am on - they are all ordering the Dewormer and doing a Candida cleanse. My cousin, who has fought Candida for some time, is also ordering the Dewormer and is hoping to see an end to her Candida problem once and for all :-) Thanks again! At 02:25 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote: , I use Lugol's Solution (Iodine) and I get it from Old Amish Formulas. They do not list it on their product list, so you have to call them and order it direct. Phone number is 260-672-2272. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Hello, I have 2 questions: 1. A doctor told me that you can't take iodine for more than 3 months. Is it true? Does it apply to any type of iodine? 2. A few months ago I did the iodine test and my thyroid gland was working at 58%. I took iodine for 3 months, but I didn't notice any effect. It didn't give me more energy at all. Any idea or comments? Rena Iodine Diane, You can take iodine at any time of the day. I take it in the early am because it sometimes gives you instant energy and that might interfere with sleep if taken later in the day. To test for iodine take your dropper and put about a nickle sized drop on the inside of your wrist. If you have enough iodine in your system, the spot should last longer than 12 hours. If it disappears within a few hours, you need iodine. Anne TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Yes, Anne,I totally agree with you. I am always open to learn and for that reason I kept responding to your messages about iodine. My first interest in iodine was when I read that dr. from WA was using certain iodine formula to dissolve ovarian cysts. The one I took was a different kind. Now I'm again in search of a good alternative doctor who can help me shrink the cyst. I'm already tired of trying things that don't work, but I refuse to have surgery. Rena Iodine Rena, I really can not answer your question as to whether or not you should take iodine more than 3 months. I really do not know. If it were me, I would do a research on iodine if I were concerned about that. For me, I just try to listen to what my body is telling me and I am sure that it will tell me if I am over doing iodine. We all have to try and heal ourselves and no one can do it for you. You can listen to suggestions, but after that you have to decide for yourself. Anne TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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