Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I received his email newsletter also. He has a clinic in WA. I tried to find someone in south FL with his same philosophy, but I didn't succeed yet. Rena iodine Rena, Thanks for telling me about Dr. - looked him up and subscribed to his newsletter. Looks good to me. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Iodine is vital for good thyroid function, which in turn is essential for health. Iodine deficiency during pregnancy and early infancy can result in cretinism (irreversible mental retardation and severe motor impairments). In adults low iodine intake (or very high intakes) can cause hypothyroidism. Hypothyroidism can manifest as low energy levels, dry or scaly or yellowish skin, tingling and numbness in extremities, weight gain, forgetfulness, personality changes, depression, anaemia, and prolonged and heavy periods in women. Goiter, an enlarged thyroid gland visible between the Adam's apple and the collar bone, is often present. Hypothyroidism can also cause carpal tunnel syndrome and Raynaud's phenomenon. Hypothyroidism can lead to significant increases in cholesterol levels and homocysteine levels is implicated in about 10% of cases of high cholesterol levels. Correcting hypothyroidism can lead to a 30% drop in cholesterol and homocysteine levels. An iodine intake of less than 20 micro grams (µg) per day is considered severe deficiency, 20 -50 µg/day is considered moderate deficiency and 50-100 µg/day is considered mild deficiency. Iodine is typically undesirably low (about 50 micrograms/day compared to a recommended level of about 150 micrograms per day) in UK vegan diets unless supplements, iodine rich seaweeds or foods containing such seaweeds (e.g. Vecon) are consumed. The low iodine levels in many plant foods reflects the low iodine levels in the UK soil, due in part to the recent ice-age. About half the iodine consumption in the UK comes from dairy products. In the US iodised salt is widely used and some other foods are fortified with iodine. In Canada all table salt is iodized. The UK has no iodine fortification strategy for plant foods or salt. Low zinc intakes exacerbate the effect of low iodine intake. Some otherwise healthful foods contain goitrogens - substances which can interfere with iodine uptake or hormone release from the thyroid gland. These foods are generally only a concern if iodine intake is low. Consumption of brassicas, such as cabbage, Brussels sprouts, broccoli and cauliflower, increase the requirements for iodine, especially if consumed raw. Soy beans, raw flaxseed, cassava (used in tapioca), sweet potatoes, lima beans, maize and millet also increase the requirements for iodine. It is important not to over-consume iodine as it has a relatively narrow range of intakes that reliably support good thyroid function (about 100 to 300 micrograms per day). Someone consuming large amounts of iodised salt or seaweeds could readily overdo it. Excessive iodine has a complex disruptive effect on the thyroid and may cause either hypothyroidism or hyperthyroidism, in susceptible individuals, as well as increasing the risk of thyroid cancer. Hyperthyroidism may also occur, particularly in elderly people, due to long term slight iodine deficiency as this may result in additional nodules on the thyroid. Hyperthyroidism may manifest as an enlarged thyroid (goiter), heart rate irregularities, tremor, sweating, palpitations, nervousness and increased activity and eye abnormalities. Some individuals deliberately take kelp to try to lose weight by over stimulating the thyroid. This is a dangerous practice. Subclinical hypothyroidism, with raised thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) levels but mild or absent overt symptoms, has been found to be more common among vegans than the general population. Most vegans have low iodine intakes but a significant minority consume excessive amounts of iodine from seaweed, particularly kelp. Both low and excessively high iodine intakes in vegans have been linked to elevated TSH levels. The key to good thyroid function is adequate, but not excessive iodine intake. Intakes in the range 100-300 micrograms per day are desirable, though intakes up to 500 micrograms per day are probably not harmful. If taking supplements go for about 100-150 micrograms per day, to give a total intake of 150-200 micrograms per day. The supplements supplied by The Vegan Society contain an average of about 150 micrograms, so one a day provides about the right amount. Many kelp supplements contain higher levels and should be restricted to two a week. If using seaweeds as an iodine source it is best to use seaweeds that have been found to have a fairly consistent iodine content, such as kelp (kombu). Consumption of more than 100g/year (by dried weight) of most seaweeds carries a significant risk of thyroid disorder due to iodine intakes in excess of 1000 micrograms per day. Nori is low in iodine and several sheets a day can be eaten without any concern about excess iodine. Frequent addition of small amounts of powdered or crumbled seaweed to stews or curries while cooking, or to other foods as a condiment, is an excellent way to provide adequate iodine (in the absence of other supplementation) and is a healthful practice for vegans. 15g of dried kombu or kelp in a convenient container in the kitchen provides one year's supply for one person. Most vegans know that B12 deficiency can cause neurological complications and tingling sensations or numbness. B 12 deficiency is also a common cause of elevated homocysteine levels in vegans. It should be noted that hypothyroidism (myxedema) can also cause nerve damage, tingling sensations and elevated homocysteine and should be considered as an alternative diagnosis for these symptoms. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 hi i would just like to be really clear on the iodine issue, because when i was in hospital it was used several times a day on a wound in my mouth. I m sure it was iodine because of the smell and the way it stings. so is it bad for you or not ? do you think i could have ingested too much? does anyone know? thank you Ingrid > > Hi Carol, > Have you thought about Lugol's iodine? (a 178 year-old formula). > > The most reasonably priced source: > > Dr. Brownstein > The Center for Holistic Medicine > 5821 W. Maple Rd., Ste. 192 > West Bloomfield, MI 48322 > (248) 851-1600 > One ounce bottles are $10 and shipping is $5. > > FYI: > > Iodoral is a tablet form of Lugol's: > Iodoral, 90 tablets (11/07) Price > > www.belmarpharmacy.com $24.50 > (no shipping charge) > Breastcancerchoices.org $22.95 > (add $4.95 shipping) > > Iodoral, 180 tablets (11/07) Price > > Breastcancerchoices.org $37.95 > (add $4.95 shipping) > www.belmarpharmacy.com $49 > (no shipping charge) > > Jo > > > > Iodine > > Posted by: " cstraq1 " cstraq@... cstraq1 > Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:12 am (PDT) > > Does anyone have an opinion on liquid iodine supplementation? There > are two kinds I am contemplating. Here is what the manufacturer's say > about their product: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Rarely, people can get their thyroids " clogged " with the wrong kind of iodine - get symptoms of slow thyroid like hunger, fatigue, low energy. More often you can get a type of acne from it, which some say is actually the iodine chelating bromine and fluorine through the skin. Mostly iodine is pretty harmless in that size dose. Much safer than chlorine, fluoride, bromine, etc. > > > > Hi Carol, > > Have you thought about Lugol's iodine? (a 178 year-old formula). > > > > The most reasonably priced source: > > > > Dr. Brownstein > > The Center for Holistic Medicine > > 5821 W. Maple Rd., Ste. 192 > > West Bloomfield, MI 48322 > > (248) 851-1600 > > One ounce bottles are $10 and shipping is $5. > > > > FYI: > > > > Iodoral is a tablet form of Lugol's: > > Iodoral, 90 tablets (11/07) Price > > > > www.belmarpharmacy.com $24.50 > > (no shipping charge) > > Breastcancerchoices.org $22.95 > > (add $4.95 shipping) > > > > Iodoral, 180 tablets (11/07) Price > > > > Breastcancerchoices.org $37.95 > > (add $4.95 shipping) > > www.belmarpharmacy.com $49 > > (no shipping charge) > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > Iodine > > > > Posted by: " cstraq1 " cstraq@ cstraq1 > > Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:12 am (PDT) > > > > Does anyone have an opinion on liquid iodine supplementation? There > > are two kinds I am contemplating. Here is what the manufacturer's say > > about their product: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 >Rarely, people can get their thyroids " clogged " with the wrong kind >of iodine - get symptoms of slow thyroid like hunger, fatigue, low >energy. More often you can get a type of acne from it, which some >say is actually the iodine chelating bromine and fluorine through the >skin. Mostly iodine is pretty harmless in that size dose. Much >safer than chlorine, fluoride, bromine, etc. so how does one go about treating thyriod problems, i think i have this. i have been lazy to go to the doc to get my blood drawn for testing. now that you mentioned all of this it might be exactly what is going on with me. thank you for any input from you and the other member in advance. Len in Cali ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Skin absorbtion of iodine is 12%, from what I've read. I would say that you're probably the better for it, minus the stress of whatever crappy additives are in the particular povidone iodine solution they used. Iodine is concentrated in the breast tissue. I intentionally put iodine on my breasts every now and then, as a preventative, and curative of deficiency, along with the various iodine supps. I use. FWIW I feel best on the kelp. Desh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 There has been a lot of discussion about this on the iodine list and the adrenal & thyroid list. The overwhelming consensus has been that the Lugols or Iadoral taken orally is far superiod, and that the skin test is not necessarily accurate. This is also what Drs. Btown, Abrams, & Flechas recommend, as well as Dr. Rind.MaureenOn Apr 29, 2008, at 4:08 PM, wrote:I believe that Sally Fallon has recommended 6% or greater iodine solution rubbed on the inner arm as a much cheaper and better regulated means of boosting one's iodine. This can be bought from a drug store, they might have to order the higher concentration, and is what we used to put on cuts and scrapes. The test is to rub a 2 inch square on your arm and see how long it takes to disappear. If it takes longer than 24 hours, you're iodine level is probably okay. If it takes less, keep applying a new patch each day until it stays for over 24 hours. This keeps you from over-dosing also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Maureen, I have never tried Iadoral, but I did try smearing the iodine on my wrist and after doing that for about 3 days, it worked. (Also, my chiropractor tests to see if you need to supplement iodine by doing the same test.) I like the above way, because you don't have to spend lots of money in testing. If the spot takes 24 hours to clear you know you have had enough. I've also noticed an interesting thing. I use fermented cod liver oil, Bio-Kult and have been following GAPs for 2 months. I haven't had the usual thyroid problems lately, so I haven't needed to supplement. I wonder if the GAPs diet with the supplements help to balance things out? Just thinking out loud.... God's blessings, Re: [ ] iodine There has been a lot of discussion about this on the iodine list and the adrenal & thyroid list. The overwhelming consensus has been that the Lugols or Iadoral taken orally is far superiod, and that the skin test is not necessarily accurate. This is also what Drs. Btown, Abrams, & Flechas recommend, as well as Dr. Rind. Maureen On Apr 29, 2008, at 4:08 PM, wrote: I believe that Sally Fallon has recommended 6% or greater iodine solution rubbed on the inner arm as a much cheaper and better regulated means of boosting one's iodine. This can be bought from a drug store, they might have to order the higher concentration, and is what we used to put on cuts and scrapes. The test is to rub a 2 inch square on your arm and see how long it takes to disappear. If it takes longer than 24 hours, you're iodine level is probably okay. If it takes less, keep applying a new patch each day until it stays for over 24 hours. This keeps you from over-dosing also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I think the GAPS diet helps with digestion and therefore absorption of minerals so I think that would make a difference. Cod liver oil is also helpful for the thyroid as it uses a lot of vitamin A.Ann MarieOn Apr 29, 2008, at 4:12 PM, The Bridgewaters' wrote: I've also noticed an interesting thing. I use fermented cod liver oil, Bio-Kult and have been following GAPs for 2 months. I haven't had the usual thyroid problems lately, so I haven't needed to supplement. I wonder if the GAPs diet with the supplements help to balance things out? Just thinking out loud.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I just started doing GAPS and high vitamin cod liver oil and high vitamin butter oil, and YES essential oils. my bio kult hasn't arrived yet. Anyone else doing this? I am doing it for Autoimmune Disoider -- In , Ann <patriciak4him@...> wrote: > > Dear , > What cod liver oil do you use? I would like to add this to our diet, but am > unsure what to get as there are so many types. > Blessings to you, > Ann > > -- Re: [ ] iodine > > > I've also noticed an interesting thing. I use fermented cod liver oil, > Bio-Kult and have been following GAPs for 2 months. I haven't had the usual > thyroid problems lately, so I haven't needed to supplement. I wonder if the > GAPs diet with the supplements help to balance things out? Just thinking > out loud.... > > God's blessings, > > > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Ann, I'm not , but I have tried nearly all the different CLOs and always come back to Carlson's lemon-flavored. My kids will take it without complaint. Even the one who hates fish! Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 What essential oils do you use? Re: [ ] iodine> > > I've also noticed an interesting thing. I use fermented cod liver oil,> Bio-Kult and have been following GAPs for 2 months. I haven't had the usual> thyroid problems lately, so I haven't needed to supplement. I wonder if the> GAPs diet with the supplements help to balance things out? Just thinking> out loud....> > God's blessings,> > > > .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 You can still find Lugol's solution at JCrow.com. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Hello, I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's about 10 years ago. I took different thyroid hormones for a few years and didn't feel any better so got retested and the Hashimoto's was gone! My doctor told me that it happens fairly frequently and that it can be a self limiting condition. Since my immune system is attacking everything else in my body I was very surprised that it slacked off the thyroid gland.L Sharon Gray <perragrande@...> wrote: Hi folks, How do you people take your iodine? Magnascent or Lugol's or something similar? I did the tincture test and the spot disappeared in about 3 hours. I have been severely hypothyroid since I was 11 years old and I am now 53. I have read that iodine can bring the thyroid back to life, so I am wondering if that is true. Hashimoto's disease, the most common cause of low thyroid, is an autoimmune disease where antibodies attack the thyroid and kill it. I have not heard of anybody with Hashimoto's that is able to reverse it. Fortunately, I take the cheap natural stuff, Armour Thyroid. Doctors want people to take the expensive, ineffective stuff Synthroid and Cytomel, but I insisted on Armour and always have. Thanks, Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Yes I put iodine on my skin frequently----can't tolerate it internally though. I use it rectally for the fungus which seems to help for a week or so and it comes right back again. I should be getting enough iodine (maybe even too much) as I put enough of it on my skin. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 This explains why Manju Ray was interested. GYMNEMA SYLVESTRE, an Ayurvedic herb, came to be known as " destroyer of sugar " because, in ancient times, Ayurvedic physicians observed that chewing a few leaves of Gymnema sylvestre suppressed the taste of sugar. It is used today all over India for controlling blood sugar. Vic ________________________________ From: Gammill <vgammill@... <mailto:vgammill%40roadrunner.com> > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 There is no easy answer to your question. The main function of iodine is to kick up thyroid in those who are thyroid deficient -- most Americans don't get enough thyroid. Too much can decrease thyroid function. Its use depends on your overall strategy. It can be useful as part of an ATP decoupling strategy which can be one of the better choices if a person has had chemotherapy. The second time Manju Ray from India visited our cancer retreat in California she wanted to hear my seminar on ATP decoupling. I think she wanted to add to her strategy of inhibiting the glycolytic pathway AND the electron transport chain. I am a little surprised that ATP decoupling with its many therapeutic synergisms is not more popular with the alternative crowd, but people seem to balk at learning new concepts even if it means that their chance of survival is significantly reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Leonard: Thanks, good info: Dr. Sylver recommended to me to " paint " the area with iodine and then use the far infrared sauna. She claims a high rate of success with this method. The heat open the pores and the iodine is absorbed. Vic ________________________________ From: Leonard <leonardleonard1@...> Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 My notes on iodine:........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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