Re: Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

September 24, 2010

not to be rude, but blah, blah, blah...many doctors suck, too bad you succumbed

to their pressure, why are you promoting this barbaric procedure?

In you email you did not state whether you did and cleanings...did you ?Â And

if you did what were the results.

Thanks for adding a new home or boat for the doctors.Â And you believe the

cancer hype....blah blah blah....

You also state that NOW you are watching what you are eating...what about

before?

I think I see a very lazy GB cleaning person.

if I am wrong please excuse and educate....these are my initial thoughts with

the data you provided....

From: moniquesprite <eaquita@...>

Subject: Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

gallstones

Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 8:24 AM

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After waiting since 2006 I finally had my gallbladder out one week ago

today. I wish I had had it removed sooner. I learned only recently that my

large (2.1 centimeter) calcified stone irritated the gb so much that

pre-cancerous changes to the gb took place.

My surgery was done laparascopically and I've not had any pain due to the

outpatient procedure other than soreness where the incisions are healing. One

week later, I have very minimal discomfort remaining at one incision. I am

eating pretty normally, but have taken this opportunity to be more aware of what

I consume and how much I consume.

My female cousins and female cousin in law both had theirs out a few years ago.

They've been eating (and drinking) normally for years and have had no problems.

If you decide to have your gallbladder removed, do your research on surgeons.

Find one who has a lot of experience. Ask at the clinic or hospital who they

think is an excellent doctor. Ask your primary care physician for their

recommendation. I like to ask, " If your mother were to have this surgery, who

would you want them to see? " .

September 24, 2010

Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

After waiting since 2006 I finally had my gallbladder out one week ago today.

I wish I had had it removed sooner. I learned only recently that my large (2.1

centimeter) calcified stone irritated the gb so much that pre-cancerous changes

to the gb took place.

My surgery was done laparascopically and I've not had any pain due to the

outpatient procedure other than soreness where the incisions are healing. One

week later, I have very minimal discomfort remaining at one incision. I am

eating pretty normally, but have taken this opportunity to be more aware of what

I consume and how much I consume.

My female cousins and female cousin in law both had theirs out a few years

ago. They've been eating (and drinking) normally for years and have had no

problems.

If you decide to have your gallbladder removed, do your research on surgeons.

Find one who has a lot of experience. Ask at the clinic or hospital who they

think is an excellent doctor. Ask your primary care physician for their

recommendation. I like to ask, " If your mother were to have this surgery, who

would you want them to see? " .

September 24, 2010

WOW, I thought this Dale w. was a proponent of save the gallbladder.......????

I was in so much pain on a drilling rig one night, they medi-vac'd me in at a

cost of 15,000.00....( thanks BP )..........that was in 2006 also, still have my

gallbladder, still work deepwater, the rig I was on, the HORIZON, has

gone.....along with the gallstones.....................flush, AC vinegar,

research, change diet.

From: Dale <Da_@...>

Subject: Re: Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

gallstones

Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:12 PM

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Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

After waiting since 2006 I finally had my gallbladder out one week ago today. I

wish I had had it removed sooner. I learned only recently that my large (2.1

centimeter) calcified stone irritated the gb so much that pre-cancerous changes

to the gb took place.

My surgery was done laparascopically and I've not had any pain due to the

outpatient procedure other than soreness where the incisions are healing. One

week later, I have very minimal discomfort remaining at one incision. I am

eating pretty normally, but have taken this opportunity to be more aware of what

I consume and how much I consume.

My female cousins and female cousin in law both had theirs out a few years ago.

They've been eating (and drinking) normally for years and have had no problems.

If you decide to have your gallbladder removed, do your research on surgeons.

Find one who has a lot of experience. Ask at the clinic or hospital who they

think is an excellent doctor. Ask your primary care physician for their

recommendation. I like to ask, " If your mother were to have this surgery, who

would you want them to see? " .

September 25, 2010

I am excepting there are cases that have to have the surgery regardless. I still

have the original that came with this bod.

Dale

Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

After waiting since 2006 I finally had my gallbladder out one week ago today.

I wish I had had it removed sooner. I learned only recently that my large (2.1

centimeter) calcified stone irritated the gb so much that pre-cancerous changes

to the gb took place.

My surgery was done laparascopically and I've not had any pain due to the

outpatient procedure other than soreness where the incisions are healing. One

week later, I have very minimal discomfort remaining at one incision. I am

eating pretty normally, but have taken this opportunity to be more aware of what

I consume and how much I consume.

My female cousins and female cousin in law both had theirs out a few years

ago. They've been eating (and drinking) normally for years and have had no

problems.

If you decide to have your gallbladder removed, do your research on surgeons.

Find one who has a lot of experience. Ask at the clinic or hospital who they

think is an excellent doctor. Ask your primary care physician for their

recommendation. I like to ask, " If your mother were to have this surgery, who

would you want them to see? " .

September 25, 2010

watch your diet now, it has become even more important ...otherwise high

cholestrol is the next thing you would be suffering which obviously leads to

heart problems

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Gallassero <gallassero@...>wrote:

>

> WOW, I thought this Dale w. was a proponent of save the

> gallbladder.......????

> I was in so much pain on a drilling rig one night, they medi-vac'd me in at

> a cost of 15,000.00....( thanks BP )..........that was in 2006 also, still

> have my gallbladder, still work deepwater, the rig I was on, the HORIZON,

> has gone.....along with the gallstones.....................flush, AC

> vinegar, research, change diet.

>

> From: Dale <Da_@... <Da_%40msn.com>>

> Subject: Re: Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

> gallstones <gallstones%40>

> Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:12 PM

>

> Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

>

> After waiting since 2006 I finally had my gallbladder out one week ago

> today. I wish I had had it removed sooner. I learned only recently that my

> large (2.1 centimeter) calcified stone irritated the gb so much that

> pre-cancerous changes to the gb took place.

>

> My surgery was done laparascopically and I've not had any pain due to the

> outpatient procedure other than soreness where the incisions are healing.

> One week later, I have very minimal discomfort remaining at one incision. I

> am eating pretty normally, but have taken this opportunity to be more aware

> of what I consume and how much I consume.

>

> My female cousins and female cousin in law both had theirs out a few years

> ago. They've been eating (and drinking) normally for years and have had no

> problems.

>

> If you decide to have your gallbladder removed, do your research on

> surgeons. Find one who has a lot of experience. Ask at the clinic or

> hospital who they think is an excellent doctor. Ask your primary care

> physician for their recommendation. I like to ask, " If your mother were to

> have this surgery, who would you want them to see? " .

>

September 25, 2010

Look up Dr Esselstyn's ground breaking book - How to Prevent & Cure Heart

Disease - 100% reversal of cholesterol and coronary heart disease- his book is

based on the Nobel winning discovery in medicine in 1998 of the effects of

Nitrous oxide, naturally produced by the body, and its healing effects that are

blocked by diet. Why, you may ask is this not common knowledge? Well the medical

industry income for cholesterol drugs, heart surgery and stents is upward of 100

billion dollars- so there are 100 billion reasons as to why.

As for saving GB - there are times when surgery if the only option but I dare

say that the majority of the GB surgeries are unnecessary- unless the GB is

diseased- more often than not it is diet, exercise ( as important if not more

important than diet, and conscientious eating that will turn it around- it was

recommended I have surgery 12 years ago and with the insights from this group I

passed on the surgery and have no regrets and no more pain or any symptoms and

this is without ever doing a flush- although I am now considering doing one to

clean out- I changed my diet - tried Dr Esselstyn's protocol for a while - lost

10 pounds while on the diet and another 30 thru exercise and diet.

Good luck

FB

On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Munawar Rasheed wrote:

> watch your diet now, it has become even more important ...otherwise high

> cholestrol is the next thing you would be suffering which obviously leads to

> heart problems

>

> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Gallassero

<gallassero@...>wrote:

>

> >

> > WOW, I thought this Dale w. was a proponent of save the

> > gallbladder.......????

> > I was in so much pain on a drilling rig one night, they medi-vac'd me in at

> > a cost of 15,000.00....( thanks BP )..........that was in 2006 also, still

> > have my gallbladder, still work deepwater, the rig I was on, the HORIZON,

> > has gone.....along with the gallstones.....................flush, AC

> > vinegar, research, change diet.

> >

> > From: Dale <Da_@... <Da_%40msn.com>>

> > Subject: Re: Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

> > gallstones <gallstones%40>

> > Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:12 PM

> >

> > Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

> >

> > After waiting since 2006 I finally had my gallbladder out one week ago

> > today. I wish I had had it removed sooner. I learned only recently that my

> > large (2.1 centimeter) calcified stone irritated the gb so much that

> > pre-cancerous changes to the gb took place.

> >

> > My surgery was done laparascopically and I've not had any pain due to the

> > outpatient procedure other than soreness where the incisions are healing.

> > One week later, I have very minimal discomfort remaining at one incision. I

> > am eating pretty normally, but have taken this opportunity to be more aware

> > of what I consume and how much I consume.

> >

> > My female cousins and female cousin in law both had theirs out a few years

> > ago. They've been eating (and drinking) normally for years and have had no

> > problems.

> >

> > If you decide to have your gallbladder removed, do your research on

> > surgeons. Find one who has a lot of experience. Ask at the clinic or

> > hospital who they think is an excellent doctor. Ask your primary care

> > physician for their recommendation. I like to ask, " If your mother were to

> > have this surgery, who would you want them to see? " .

> >

October 3, 2010

Yes Jay I share your frustration over the medical professions policy on GB

removal and I am certain your words are directed toward the establishment

we'll never know if 's diagnosis was correct but this I do know

12 years ago my scan came back with a 2.5 cm stone and the doctor pretty much

repeated what heard- I had bouts of terrible pain but being proactive I

still have my GB today and have been pain free for years

My point is -- it takes a lot of discipline and trust in yourself to be able to

help yourself. Not everyone has the ability or discipline or know how to get

there

So every situation is unique - there is no right or wrong

we wish you the best as I am certain you did what was right for you - my

father had his GB removed at age 56 and other than a few annoying symptoms -

got along very well without it for 32 years- but he ate organic with a large

portion of his diet being grains and greens and had a regular daily exercise

routine of 45 to 90 minutes or more

which I recommend you become a devotee of both greens, grains and exercise-

There is no way of knowing if the doctor was right about your GB being or

causing pre cancerous conditions, is there? -Would you tells us how they arrived

at that conclusion?

I would be curious how did he know that? did the doctor do a biopsy? f I were

you I would want to know how the doctor arrived at that pre cancerous

evaluation, even after the surgery.

But this should serve as a good example to us all of the pressure we encounter

in the medical profession to perform procedures and how they should be handled.

Do keep in touch and let us know how your life without your GB is going- we

would like to know and are always here to help should you encounter any side

effects or digestive issues such as dry mouth. minor constipation or irregular

bowel movements

Good luck

F

On Sep 24, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Jay Grosflam wrote:

> not to be rude, but blah, blah, blah...many doctors suck, too bad you

succumbed to their pressure, why are you promoting this barbaric procedure?

>

> In you email you did not state whether you did and cleanings...did you ? And

if you did what were the results.

>

> Thanks for adding a new home or boat for the doctors. And you believe the

cancer hype....blah blah blah....

>

> You also state that NOW you are watching what you are eating...what about

before?

>

> I think I see a very lazy GB cleaning person.

>

> if I am wrong please excuse and educate....these are my initial thoughts with

the data you provided....

>

> From: moniquesprite <eaquita@...>

> Subject: Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

> gallstones

> Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 8:24 AM

>

> After waiting since 2006 I finally had my gallbladder out one week ago today.

I wish I had had it removed sooner. I learned only recently that my large (2.1

centimeter) calcified stone irritated the gb so much that pre-cancerous changes

to the gb took place.

>

> My surgery was done laparascopically and I've not had any pain due to the

outpatient procedure other than soreness where the incisions are healing. One

week later, I have very minimal discomfort remaining at one incision. I am

eating pretty normally, but have taken this opportunity to be more aware of what

I consume and how much I consume.

>

> My female cousins and female cousin in law both had theirs out a few years

ago. They've been eating (and drinking) normally for years and have had no

problems.

>

> If you decide to have your gallbladder removed, do your research on surgeons.

Find one who has a lot of experience. Ask at the clinic or hospital who they

think is an excellent doctor. Ask your primary care physician for their

recommendation. I like to ask, " If your mother were to have this surgery, who

would you want them to see? " .

>

October 3, 2010

Jay, not to be rude…but you are being rude. You don't know all of the

circumstances. I think that there were some good suggestions IF a person

decides to go this route. What works for some may not work for others and to

endure a lot of pain for years is often more than a human body can and should

take. Fortunately I have my GB and have no problem. I joined this group to

help my daughter who does have GB issues. For now, her pain is gone. However if

it returns, I'm sure she will go with the removal and I will pass on these

thoughtful suggestions to her. Thank you, sprite. BTW, Jay, I do share

your opinions about many of the health professionals. The thing is often we do

NEED their knowledge and some did join the profession to help others.

For years I have treated my health issues with natural means like essential

oils, herbs and most recently releasing more of my own adult stem cells. I do a

continuous cleansing with a detox tea, use only natural personal and home

products, grow an organic garden and continuously look for other ways to live a

healthy life. I was forty five when I started this quest and at 61, I'm still

learning. I guess what I'm saying is, everyone has to start somewhere and go at

their on pace. You appear to be someone with the same quest for a healthy life.

Shouldn't we support and give encouragement to others that are trying to do the

same?

Janie

>

> From: moniquesprite <eaquita@...>

> Subject: Gallbladder Removed due to one large stone

> gallstones

> Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 8:24 AM

>

> Â

>

> After waiting since 2006 I finally had my gallbladder out one week ago

today. I wish I had had it removed sooner. I learned only recently that my

large (2.1 centimeter) calcified stone irritated the gb so much that

pre-cancerous changes to the gb took place.

>

> My surgery was done laparascopically and I've not had any pain due to the

outpatient procedure other than soreness where the incisions are healing. One

week later, I have very minimal discomfort remaining at one incision. I am

eating pretty normally, but have taken this opportunity to be more aware of what

I consume and how much I consume.

>

> My female cousins and female cousin in law both had theirs out a few years

ago. They've been eating (and drinking) normally for years and have had no

problems.

>

> If you decide to have your gallbladder removed, do your research on surgeons.

Find one who has a lot of experience. Ask at the clinic or hospital who they

think is an excellent doctor. Ask your primary care physician for their

recommendation. I like to ask, " If your mother were to have this surgery, who

would you want them to see? " .

>

October 3, 2010

Hi Ya Guys.

I've been setting back reading from every body's posts for a while now.

Everyone here does a great job.

My Question.

What is the GB test, that tells you how your GB is working??

Is there a place and a DR, that can do just this test.?

Thank you.

Mack

October 3, 2010

I'm sure any family physician would be more than happy to do these tests or send

you to one that would. Just ask him/her the same question.

J

>

> Hi Ya Guys.

> I've been setting back reading from every body's posts for a while now.

> Everyone here does a great job.

> My Question.

> What is the GB test, that tells you how your GB is working??

> Is there a place and a DR, that can do just this test.?

> Thank you.

> Mack

>

October 3, 2010