Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Ummm, I'd prefer to think that ALL opinions are welcome here ... not just yours. Maybe you should have that healer work on the uncivil bits that she left behind? Unless I missed the last election of the newest ' opinion sheriff in town'! (can'tbelieveIhadtogetouttamyhappylittlelurkingchairbutjustcan'tletsomeoneslapso\ meoneelsearoundlikethat) > gallstones > From: rfill01@... > Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:12:57 -0700 > Subject: Re: Dont believe this Indian healer > > If you don't believe it, it doesn't mean it's not true. Nobody wants to convince you. Many years ago I had Sciatica on both sides and healer helped me. She was healing me with her energy only, she even didn't touch me. After frst session the terrible pain I constantly had was gone. Then I went to her seven more times. It happened 18 years ago. I never had sciatica again. Many people don't belive in healers, they belive in doctors, knives, etc. So, please keep your opinion to yourself. > > > ________________________________ > From: sahed km <kmsahed@...> > gallstones > Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 6:58:29 AM > Subject: Re: Dont believe this Indian healer > > > dear all, > it can't be believed.... > its always a habit of some people to mislead those who are suffering with ailments, with such blender baba stories,,,.. . please dont believe...please be aware of your health and body... > go for medically and scientifically proved treatments.. .. > please dont kill yourself... > may god bless all of us... > with good health, well being and with a good brain to think positively.. . > regards to all... > your brother.. > sahed > > > > From: Regina F. <rfill01 (DOT) com> > Subject: Indian healer > gallstones@gro ups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 3:51 AM > > > > Bellow is the email Vish forwarded to me. It's from the person who went to see this healer. I called him (the healer). He said he only can remove the stones which are not bigger then 10 mm. Mine is (was couple of month ago) 12 mm. I found out the size after I talk to him. Actually it was Indian guy who called him, because this Bapu almost doesn't speak English. I really wanted to go, but I don't know if he can remove my stones. I didn't do flashes yet. > Here is this email: (the phone number changed: 0265 – 2419052) > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Srinivasan <srinialshaya (DOT) com> > vichooo_1999 > Sent: Sun, May 28, 2006 1:36:33 PM > Subject: PyareBapuPatriwale > > OM SRISHAKTHIBAGAVATHI NARAYANINAMONAMA HA > OM SADGURUGNYANANANDA PARA BRAHMA SWAROOPINYAINAMAHA > OM BAGAVATHISIDDHARAYA VIDMAHESHAKTHIHA STHAYADEEMAHITAN NO > BAGAVATHIPRACHODAYA T > OM SRIGNYANAAMBIKAISAD GURUSWAROOPINYAI NAMAHA > > Dear all, > Please go through this throughly and spread the message to as many people > as you can and let every one benefit from the grace of god. > > Subject : > My Experience with PyareBapuPatriwale > > Date : > Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:38:50 +0000 > > OM SHREESAKTHIBAGAVATH INARAYANENAMONAM AHA > > On a regular medical examination it was found that I had a stone in my kidney > and a number of stones in my Gall Bladder. When I informed Swamiji, Swamiji > told me about a Muslim gentleman in Baroda who takes out the stones without > any surgery and asked ShriGopalakrishnan (Parsi Dairy) to give me the > address of “PyareBapuPatri Wale” (PBPW). I went to Baroda on 2/7/2002. On > Thursday (5/7/2002) morning I went to see PBPW along with two local people > (One a Muslim and another a Hindu). The Muslim gentleman guided us to the > place of PBPW. PBPW lives in a lower Middle Class area and the area is full > of animals, slush and garbage. > > When I went around 8.30 in the morning there were about half a dozen people > sitting in the front hall and the narrow passage in his place. He was sitting > in a slightly raised portion of the hall(like the one in our Gyanananda Hall) > He kept calling people one after the other and listened to their complaints. > There was a lady who also came with the complaint of stone and he removed it > immediately. He listens to the complaints in front of everyone and undertakes > the remedial measures also at the same place. He looked at me and called me > to come and sit in front of him. I told him that I am coming from Chennai and > my Guru Swamiji has asked me to meet him. I showed the photo of Swamiji to > him.He took the photo of Swamiji in his hand and closed his eyes for a couple > of minutes. Then he told me that ShriGopalakrishnan has already informed him > about my visit. He also expressed his desire to visit Chennai and I extended > an invitation to him. > > After looking at my medical reports his assistant told him that I have one > stone in kidney and a number of stones in Gall Bladder. PBPW sprayed some > liquid over my left kidney area and pinched that place. Before I could > realize what was happening he had taken out the stone. There was absolutely > no pain for me. Then he told me to wait for some time since it will be > uncomfortable to undergo two stone removal processes immediately. People kept > coming during that time. I saw him treat people for diabetes, spondilitis and > other medical ailments. > > After ten minutes he called me again. This time he pinched the gall bladder > area and stones kept coming one after other. He removed the stones in three > stages. First three stones, second time three stones and the last time four > stones. He asked my accomplice to hold a plate underneath his hand so that > the stones kept falling into that plate. This was comparatively more painful > than kidney stone removal but definitely bearable. After removing all the > stones he applied some Vibuthi like powder over the place. He put all the > stones in a plastic cover and handed it over to me. He said I can go and work > and have normal diet. He told me to take Coconut Water with Limbu juice at > bedtime for five days. I ASKED HIM HOW MUCH I OWE HIM (as fees for the > treatment) HE SAID HE HAS BEEN DOING THIS AS A SERVICE AND HAS NOT BEEN > CHARGING FOR THE SAME. HOWEVER, He TOLD ME THAT I COULD MAKE AN OFFERING AS > PER MY WISH . > > My accomplice could not believe his eyes. He is staying in Baroda for the > past five years and he has not heard about PBPW. He has hernia problem and > told PBPW regarding the same. PBPW treated him also. Then I invited him to > Chennai once again and left the place. > > On my return from Baroda I went to Peetam directly from the Airport and > showed Swamiji the stones taken out by PBPW. At that time Swamiji revealed > that PBPW was an aide of ShirdiSaiBaba in his earlier birth and hence he > has this powers to cure ailments. > > The Address of PyarebapuPatterwale is: > > PYAREBAPUPATRIWALE > NAVAPURA > MEHABOOBPURA > BARODA > > PH: 0265-419052 MOBILE: 98250-67195 > > He stays in Baroda for three days in a week i.e. Thursday to Saturday and > goes out of Baroda during Monday to Wednesday to various places to treat > people. > > When I went and told my doctor and showed him the stones he couldn’t believe > it and said it is scientifically not possible to take out kidney stone from > the front since kidney is at the back of our body. I told him that I will > take out another abdomen scan and prove that the stones have been removed. > > Since I listened to Swamiji and acted as per his dictum, “SonnadhaiSai and > SonnabadiSai” and went to Baroda without questioning whether it is > scientifically possible, I had been saved from lots of physical stress, > mental agony, and financial strain. > > Pranams to Swamyji > > LokaSamastaSukhinoB avanthu > > Naganathan > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Brad C <ontarioguy2334> > gallstones@gro ups.com > Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 7:30:29 AM > Subject: Re: Gall Bladder Sludge > > This is interesting. He removes kidney and gallstones? > Whats his procedure? > Thanks for any info > Brad > > > > > > Hi gaurav > > > > I f you are inIndia , go to Baroda. There is a Muslim Baba named PyareBapuPatriwala. He removes the stones . Absolutely free of cost. Recently my guruji , wentto him and got his stones removed. He had 6 stones. He is so famous that even taxi drivers and auto drivers knows his address. > > Got this from Google search > > the contact details of PyareBabuBatriwala, Kidney stone remover > > 0265 †" 2419052 > >  > > Vish > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: gaurav_pattanayak <gaurav_pattanayak@ ...> > > gallstones@gro ups.com > > Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 1:10:50 PM > > Subject: Gall Bladder Sludge > > > >  > > I am having minor pain somtimes on my right upper abdominal after meal. I went for a checkup with a doctor and also done a Gall Bladder Scan as adviced by the doctor. The scan test result says " Minimal Gall Blader Sludge with tiny calculi aprox 1.8 mm " . Doctor suggested me to go for Gall Blader removal surgery. Please advice I should go for the surgery or not? Or there is any alternative treatment for this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 You all are in my territory now...Having spent the last 20 years of my life kicking and screaming as I have worked with and observed some of these " healers " in action... I am in complete agreement with Regina. Not only does not believing have nothing to do with " truth', but against the view that belief is necessary for effectiveness, I can assure you from my experiences that belief is not needed nor necessary for success either. I have personally witnessed first hand thousands of what most would call " miracles " . This with a man with whom I have worked over 15,000 hours and over 3,000 people in the last 13 years (vast majority in the first 5 years), 3 trips to Brasil with months at the Casa Dom Ignasio with Joao Teixeira De Farria (Joao De Deus, " of God " ) (Joao sees 300 to 5000 people per day, he does not stop until he is done, and there is no charge) who makes the disappearance of a gall stone look like child's play, amongst other encounters. Yes it is not only possible that this " baba " can assist in the removal of stones, but a likelihood depending on his integrity. And I want and value Sahed's opinion as much as my own...All the best, -Dave Gall Bladder Sludge > > Â > I am having minor pain somtimes on my right upper abdominal after meal. I went for a checkup with a doctor and also done a Gall Bladder Scan as adviced by the doctor. The scan test result says " Minimal Gall Blader Sludge with tiny calculi aprox 1.8 mm " . Doctor suggested me to go for Gall Blader removal surgery. Please advice I should go for the surgery or not? Or there is any alternative treatment for this? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Here here I second and third this my dear Mr Shelden God Bless FB On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Dave Shelden wrote: > over 15,000 hours and over 3,000 people in the last 13 years (vast majority in the first 5 years), 3 trips to Brasil with months at the Casa Dom Ignasio with J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I saw of God in New York. He is amazing. My friend, who is very sick, just spend 6 weeks in Brasil at his Casa. She is coming back in 5 days. We'll see... ________________________________ From: Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> gallstones Sent: Wed, April 14, 2010 6:55:01 AM Subject: Re: Dont believe this Indian healer  You all are in my territory now...Having spent the last 20 years of my life kicking and screaming as I have worked with and observed some of these " healers " in action... I am in complete agreement with Regina. Not only does not believing have nothing to do with " truth', but against the view that belief is necessary for effectiveness, I can assure you from my experiences that belief is not needed nor necessary for success either. I have personally witnessed first hand thousands of what most would call " miracles " . This with a man with whom I have worked over 15,000 hours and over 3,000 people in the last 13 years (vast majority in the first 5 years), 3 trips to Brasil with months at the Casa Dom Ignasio with Joao Teixeira De Farria (Joao De Deus, " of God " ) (Joao sees 300 to 5000 people per day, he does not stop until he is done, and there is no charge) who makes the disappearance of a gall stone look like child's play, amongst other encounters. Yes it is not only possible that this " baba " can assist in the removal of stones, but a likelihood depending on his integrity. And I want and value Sahed's opinion as much as my own...All the best, -Dave Gall Bladder Sludge > > Â > I am having minor pain somtimes on my right upper abdominal after meal. I went for a checkup with a doctor and also done a Gall Bladder Scan as adviced by the doctor. The scan test result says " Minimal Gall Blader Sludge with tiny calculi aprox 1.8 mm " . Doctor suggested me to go for Gall Blader removal surgery. Please advice I should go for the surgery or not? Or there is any alternative treatment for this? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Success is judged in many ways... What happens in Brasil and with Joao is a physical representation of an energetic (spiritual?) happening. I know of tumors disappearing overnight, I know of people who went through the process for years. Neither is " better " than the other. My wife died. That does not mean that the time in Brasil did not " work " . I have a client who is an MD that went to Brasil on my recommendation. His time was life changing enough that he came back and quit his job in the ER. No medical problem, only went to observe... Beautiful stuff. I hope and pray for your friend and that she finds that which she searches for... Always, in all ways, -D Gall Bladder Sludge > > Â > I am having minor pain somtimes on my right upper abdominal after meal. I went for a checkup with a doctor and also done a Gall Bladder Scan as adviced by the doctor. The scan test result says " Minimal Gall Blader Sludge with tiny calculi aprox 1.8 mm " . Doctor suggested me to go for Gall Blader removal surgery. Please advice I should go for the surgery or not? Or there is any alternative treatment for this? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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