Re: Re: How soon after gallbladder removal can you do liver cleanse?

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Tod, nice post. Belora, I would hope that everyone here

wishes you the very best, gallbladder or not. Tod is right on the money. Give

yourself time to heal. Liver and gallbladder issues are years in the making.

One of the problems of the flushes is simply that it gives us a false sense of

immediate cure... Sometimes an immediate reliever of symptoms, but never a

cure... The fact that there have been " a 1000 stones flushed " but the

ultrasound showed the gallbladder " still filled with stones and no fluid " is

another example of the stone vs. saponification debate. This is no judgment on

the flushes, the fact that so many have done so well is both obvious and

undeniable. So it seems that the flushes work really well for some, and not so

great for others. That does not mean that if Belora had not done " one more

flush " that she would not have expelled all the stones in her gallbladder. We

just do not know. What is obvious is that many have tremendous success, and

some do not. May I suggest to all, whether you have had great relief or none,

that these issues are diet and lifestyle at the base, and that the " healing " is

never immediate, but is over a period of time, and the choices we make during

that period are directly related to the outcome....

-D

Re: How soon after gallbladder removal can you do liver

cleanse?

Good Morning Belora,

Sorry to hear about your situation, especially since that has crossed my mind

and I am only at 10 months of the pain, 6 months of knowing what it is, and it

took me months of studying after I found out I had a gallstone to put all the

flush and prep idea together and understand it enough to feel safe doing it, I

just completed my 3rd..

To answer your question, I understand that stones can also form in the liver

and that they do not remove the " common bile " duct, so although I am new at this

(so to speak) I would recommend asking your doctor to find out how long it takes

the common bile duct to heal properly before attempting anything that will

expand/stretch/dialate it. The leading cause of post operation problems come

from damages to the common bile duct. I hope this helps..

Tod in Florida

>

> I did many cleanses and passed over 1000 stones and then the cleanses

weren't doing anything. Ultrasound showed the gallbladder still completely full

of stones with no fluid no change. Couldn't take the pain anymore and it was

removed 2 1/2 weeks ago. I want to resume liver cleanse when it is safe. Please,

no bashing because I had it removed. It took months & months of trying to keep

it and I couldn't stand it any longer. Do you need to wait for everything to

heal up before doing anymore cleanses and do you need espsom salts anymore when

the gallbladder is gone? Thanks!

> Belora

>

[Guest guest]

Thank You!

________________________________

From: mkathryn59 <mkathryn59@...>

gallstones

Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 12:57:51 PM

Subject: Re: How soon after gallbladder removal can you do liver

cleanse?

 

No, no bashing now. You need help now with getting rid of the stones in

the liver and pancreas.

The body will store them now in these 2 organs and they will need help

to keep the stones gone.

See the image on this site

http://gallstoneflu sh.com/images/ biliary%20tract. JPG

<http://gallstoneflu sh.com/images/ biliary%20tract. JPG>

I have had stones for many years and know the severe pain you have had.

I learned though that by using highpowered enzymes I was able to get rid

of the pain and it worked with the flushes.

I used Twinlab Super Enzyme to help the body get rid of them.

We forget that our body was created with hydrochloric acid in it to help

digest our foods. But we are told by drs that we have to alkalize this

but it is wrong. It is the opposite. Yes, you experience acid

indigestion but the HCL is the thing that gets rid of it. I have proved

it too many times to myself and told others to try it and it works every

time.

Take care and get well.

>

> I did many cleanses and passed over 1000 stones and then the cleanses

weren't doing anything. Ultrasound showed the gallbladder still

completely full of stones with no fluid no change. Couldn't take the

pain anymore and it was removed 2 1/2 weeks ago. I want to resume liver

cleanse when it is safe. Please, no bashing because I had it removed. It

took months & months of trying to keep it and I couldn't stand it any

longer. Do you need to wait for everything to heal up before doing

anymore cleanses and do you need espsom salts anymore when the

gallbladder is gone? Thanks!

> Belora

>

[Guest guest]

 Thanks Tod!

________________________________

From: Tod Spectre <ticket2ride32539@...>

gallstones

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 4:38:30 AM

Subject: Re: How soon after gallbladder removal can you do liver

cleanse?

 

Good Morning Belora,

Sorry to hear about your situation, especially since that has crossed my mind

and I am only at 10 months of the pain, 6 months of knowing what it is, and it

took me months of studying after I found out I had a gallstone to put all the

flush and prep idea together and understand it enough to feel safe doing it, I

just completed my 3rd..

To answer your question, I understand that stones can also form in the liver and

that they do not remove the " common bile " duct, so although I am new at this (so

to speak) I would recommend asking your doctor to find out how long it takes the

common bile duct to heal properly before attempting anything that will

expand/stretch/ dialate it. The leading cause of post operation problems come

from damages to the common bile duct. I hope this helps..

Tod in Florida

>

> I did many cleanses and passed over 1000 stones and then the cleanses weren't

doing anything. Ultrasound showed the gallbladder still completely full of

stones with no fluid no change. Couldn't take the pain anymore and it was

removed 2 1/2 weeks ago. I want to resume liver cleanse when it is safe. Please,

no bashing because I had it removed. It took months & months of trying to keep

it and I couldn't stand it any longer. Do you need to wait for everything to

heal up before doing anymore cleanses and do you need espsom salts anymore when

the gallbladder is gone? Thanks!

> Belora

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dave & Todd!

________________________________

From: Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...>

gallstones

Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 8:13:59 AM

Subject: Re: Re: How soon after gallbladder removal can you do

liver cleanse?

 

Welcome to the group Tod, nice post. Belora, I would hope that everyone here

wishes you the very best, gallbladder or not. Tod is right on the money. Give

yourself time to heal. Liver and gallbladder issues are years in the making. One

of the problems of the flushes is simply that it gives us a false sense of

immediate cure... Sometimes an immediate reliever of symptoms, but never a

cure... The fact that there have been " a 1000 stones flushed " but the ultrasound

showed the gallbladder " still filled with stones and no fluid " is another

example of the stone vs. saponification debate. This is no judgment on the

flushes, the fact that so many have done so well is both obvious and undeniable.

So it seems that the flushes work really well for some, and not so great for

others. That does not mean that if Belora had not done " one more flush " that she

would not have expelled all the stones in her gallbladder. We just do not know.

What is obvious is that many have

tremendous success, and some do not. May I suggest to all, whether you have had

great relief or none, that these issues are diet and lifestyle at the base, and

that the " healing " is never immediate, but is over a period of time, and the

choices we make during that period are directly related to the outcome....

-D

Re: How soon after gallbladder removal can you do liver

cleanse?

Good Morning Belora,

Sorry to hear about your situation, especially since that has crossed my mind

and I am only at 10 months of the pain, 6 months of knowing what it is, and it

took me months of studying after I found out I had a gallstone to put all the

flush and prep idea together and understand it enough to feel safe doing it, I

just completed my 3rd..

To answer your question, I understand that stones can also form in the liver and

that they do not remove the " common bile " duct, so although I am new at this (so

to speak) I would recommend asking your doctor to find out how long it takes the

common bile duct to heal properly before attempting anything that will

expand/stretch/ dialate it. The leading cause of post operation problems come

from damages to the common bile duct. I hope this helps..

Tod in Florida

>

> I did many cleanses and passed over 1000 stones and then the cleanses weren't

doing anything. Ultrasound showed the gallbladder still completely full of

stones with no fluid no change. Couldn't take the pain anymore and it was

removed 2 1/2 weeks ago. I want to resume liver cleanse when it is safe. Please,

no bashing because I had it removed. It took months & months of trying to keep

it and I couldn't stand it any longer. Do you need to wait for everything to

heal up before doing anymore cleanses and do you need espsom salts anymore when

the gallbladder is gone? Thanks!

> Belora

>