Re: Life after gallbladder removal

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If you are on a vegetarian diet you must keep it balanced and make certain you

are getting complete proteins and your B vitamins

good luck

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On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Sheri wrote:

> Hi everyone. Just wanted to give an update. I had my GB removed in April. Not

looking for judgements here. That is what I felt was best in my situation at the

time. Just thought I would share in case it helps anyone else. I was 19 weeks

pregnant with my 4th child, had 6 severe attacks in 10 weeks, despite eating a

pretty strict liver friendly diet. The two weeks before my surgery I had two

colon hydrotherapy sessions done. A couple hours after the second one, I had a

severe attack. I believe I passed a stone b/c a few days later, at an ultrasound

before my surgery, there was now only one stone instead of 2, but it was located

at the end of the gallbladder, so it seemed that it was blocking the main duct

out possibly. I chose not to do a liver flush b/c I didn't feel 100% sure about

the safety of it while pregnant, and I didn't feel I knew enough about it, and

time was of the essence as I was having an attack about once a week. I have

always been constipated, so I feel that had I not had colon hydrotherapy done

b-4 a flush, I would have been in really bad shape as it all would have just

backed up and caused a lot of pain and cramping. My hydrotherapist was

recommended by a woman who passed all her gallstones via colon hydrotherapy with

coffee and drinking some special herbal teas in between sessions. I couldn't

take the teas being pregnant, nor the coffee enemas. The colon hydro did help me

a lot. Right after my surgery, for the next 3 months, I could eat anything

without problems pretty much. I did get some diarrhea here and there if I ate

out but no other problems. I could eat dairy without getting headaches, and the

bags under my eyes were gone. I thought it was from having a bad GB removed, but

now I believe it was from the colon hydro removing built up toxins in my colon.

Anyways, it's been 10 months since my surgery. Under eye bags are back bad. I

need to get in and have another colon hydro done, this time with the coffee too.

I will get diarrhea every once in a while, but haven't in a few months. However,

now I am getting really bad drop dead if you are anywhere near me gas if I eat

meat or chicken or any fats or oils even. Within 20-30 minutes of eating

something, I'm having gas like every 30-60 seconds. I'm already back to eating

gluten and dairy free, but if I eat dairy that also gives me gas. So, I probably

have stones in my liver as opposed to getting stuck in my gallbladder. Kind of

stinks that I'm part of that " 40% " of people who cannot go back to eating

anything they want. I am nursing so I don't want to do a liver flush right now.

Oh I also developed anemia since I stopped eating meat so when I gave birth I

passed out shortly after. I think I was always borderline anemic so now I'm

taking iron along with vit C, enzymes, B12, probiotics, CLO, prenatal, cal/mag,

vit D and occassionally choline and AF Beta food tablets. Should I still take

the last two if I don't have a GB? Anyways, I'm trying to follow a liver

cleansing diet and will have another colonic done but is there anything else I

can do to help alleviate the gas? I can't even tolerate ghee on homemade popcorn

or olive oil on red potatoes. Also just read in the Body Ecology Diet book

(starting that for my daughter-autistic), that if you have a bad liver, you pass

that on to your baby. Great! Now she has a bad liver too. I'm also drinking

small amounts of a super green powder mix w/chlorella and all that good stuff.

But now I'm back to vegetarian and it doesn't seem to give me enough strength

and energy throughout the day. I don't like fish. Anyways just wanted to add my

experience.

>

> Sheri

>

> http://allnaturalmomof3.blogspot.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am looking for your liver friendly diet, I don't see it.

Water?  more the better.

What about serious probiotics?

You mentioned that you did not want to do a cleanse during pregnancy, but you

chose to have surgery?

Just wondering.

From: Sheri <sheridavis27@...>

Subject: Life after gallbladder removal

gallstones

Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 11:01 AM

 

Hi everyone. Just wanted to give an update. I had my GB removed in

April. Not looking for judgements here. That is what I felt was best in my

situation at the time. Just thought I would share in case it helps anyone else.

I was 19 weeks pregnant with my 4th child, had 6 severe attacks in 10 weeks,

despite eating a pretty strict liver friendly diet. The two weeks before my

surgery I had two colon hydrotherapy sessions done. A couple hours after the

second one, I had a severe attack. I believe I passed a stone b/c a few days

later, at an ultrasound before my surgery, there was now only one stone instead

of 2, but it was located at the end of the gallbladder, so it seemed that it was

blocking the main duct out possibly. I chose not to do a liver flush b/c I

didn't feel 100% sure about the safety of it while pregnant, and I didn't feel I

knew enough about it, and time was of the essence as I was having an attack

about once a week. I have

always been constipated, so I feel that had I not had colon hydrotherapy done

b-4 a flush, I would have been in really bad shape as it all would have just

backed up and caused a lot of pain and cramping. My hydrotherapist was

recommended by a woman who passed all her gallstones via colon hydrotherapy with

coffee and drinking some special herbal teas in between sessions. I couldn't

take the teas being pregnant, nor the coffee enemas. The colon hydro did help

me a lot. Right after my surgery, for the next 3 months, I could eat anything

without problems pretty much. I did get some diarrhea here and there if I ate

out but no other problems. I could eat dairy without getting headaches, and the

bags under my eyes were gone. I thought it was from having a bad GB removed,

but now I believe it was from the colon hydro removing built up toxins in my

colon. Anyways, it's been 10 months since my surgery. Under eye bags are back

bad. I need to get in and

have another colon hydro done, this time with the coffee too. I will get

diarrhea every once in a while, but haven't in a few months. However, now I am

getting really bad drop dead if you are anywhere near me gas if I eat meat or

chicken or any fats or oils even. Within 20-30 minutes of eating something, I'm

having gas like every 30-60 seconds. I'm already back to eating gluten and

dairy free, but if I eat dairy that also gives me gas. So, I probably have

stones in my liver as opposed to getting stuck in my gallbladder. Kind of

stinks that I'm part of that " 40% " of people who cannot go back to eating

anything they want. I am nursing so I don't want to do a liver flush right now.

Oh I also developed anemia since I stopped eating meat so when I gave birth I

passed out shortly after. I think I was always borderline anemic so now I'm

taking iron along with vit C, enzymes, B12, probiotics, CLO, prenatal, cal/mag,

vit D and occassionally choline and

AF Beta food tablets. Should I still take the last two if I don't have a GB?

Anyways, I'm trying to follow a liver cleansing diet and will have another

colonic done but is there anything else I can do to help alleviate the gas? I

can't even tolerate ghee on homemade popcorn or olive oil on red potatoes. Also

just read in the Body Ecology Diet book (starting that for my

daughter-autistic), that if you have a bad liver, you pass that on to your baby.

Great! Now she has a bad liver too. I'm also drinking small amounts of a super

green powder mix w/chlorella and all that good stuff. But now I'm back to

vegetarian and it doesn't seem to give me enough strength and energy throughout

the day. I don't like fish. Anyways just wanted to add my experience.

Sheri

http://allnaturalmomof3.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

I had the book " The Liver Cleanse Diet " and tried to follow that as best I

could. I avoided all the obvious - beef, chicken, sugar, fats, etc. I ate a

lot of GF sphaghetti, cereal, soup, oatmeal, salad, fruit, green beans, apples,

tea for the liver, etc. Can't remember what else, but it was pretty limited.

Getting back to that pretty much right now b/c everything else seems to cause

issues. I used to eat a lot of organic chicken and grassfed beef for most of my

meals. I do take a 15 billion probiotic every day. Should I do more? My dd

has a 50 billion one. I do need to drink more water. I'm really bad about

that. I drink mostly juice all day - organic apple or homemade lemonade. I

don't drink pop or coffee. I'm 34, about 108 lbs. I'm thin except for my tummy

which is very bloated, looks like I'm 3-4 months pregnant. Why I decided to

have surgery? Fear. I was afraid for my baby if I continued to have GB attacks

and I was afraid of not being able to take care of my other 3 kids. I am only

5'2 so being pregnant, already puts a lot of pressure on your organs up to your

ribs. Add a GB attack, and I was having major difficulty breathing during the

attacks. I could barely manage to get out a few words between shallow breaths.

My attacks came on out of no where and would last about an hour to an hour and a

half of severe pain and there was no way I could move to watch my kids. I had

just started homeschooling my 9 yr old and was also homeschooling my 6 yr old

and had a 3 yr old as well, and was going through a very bad divorce. During my

3rd attack, I had to have my son call 911 for an ambulance b/c I didn't know

what was going on and I couldn't breathe. I didn't take any meds for the pain

b/c I was 8 weeks pregnant. Found out I had 2 gallstones. I had no one to

watch my kids and that scared me. One night at 11pm, I had a bad attack. I

managed to get upstairs to have my 9 yr old call his friend's mom to come over

and drive me to the hospital while her daughter stayed at the house to watch my

younger two who were sleeping. Another time, I almost had an attack while

driving on back roads 30 minutes away from our house to go pick up my dd from

school. I had forgotten my cell phone and had my 2 kids in the car. I didn't

have a full blown attack, but didn't know what I would've done if I did. I did

almost try the cleanse at one point b/c I thought it would be safer than

surgery, but I didn't. I didn't feel I knew enough about it and I had no one

who would watch my kids. I read that you feel like you have a bad flu, and

should I pass out in the middle of the night, who would be there for me or my

kids? My parents were not going to fly up from FL for me to do a cleanse. I

had also read after that, that you should do a colon cleanse beforehand. I

didn't know that before I was going to try it, and that scared me how little I

knew what I would be doing. I had also just read about the woman on 19 kids and

counting. She was 26 weeks pregnant and had to have an emergency C-section so

that she could get her GB taken out. Now she has a preemie baby, which could

have been life threatening to the baby. That was biggest fear. I knew my baby

was going to be small to begin with. I started the pregnancy out at 97 lbs b/c

of stress. (I found out the week after my husband was out of the house that I

was pregnant.) B/C I was able to eat so little, I was not gaining enough

weight. I think I was 112 at 19 weeks pregnant. During an attack, the baby is

under stress too, and not getting adequate oxygen. When I went to the hospital

the second time, I asked for pain meds. They gave me a shot of something.

Can't remember. I had all my kids at home without drugs, so for me to ask for

pain meds is big. This pain was worse than labor and it is constant unlike

labor that comes in waves. The following attacks, I got in the bath, and took

one advil and one tylenol for the pain. I was afraid my baby was not getting

adequate nutrition from what I could eat. Yes, I could have eaten veggies, etc.

but that just wasn't happening with everything else I had going on in my life

and trying to raise 3 kids on my own, one with ADHD, one with autism, and one

with seizures. I cook constantly for their diets and I didn't have the

strength, time, or money to put into my own needs. Anyways, I couldn't even

imagine going through GB attacks in my third trimester. I was afraid I would not

be able to breathe at all with a big belly. I was continuing to have attacks,

despite hardly even eating and being pretty strict. I was drinking apple juice

- about 8 oz a day. My holistic doctor through a fit. She said it had way too

much sugar. I didn't realize I had to watch the natural sugars too. I thought

apple juice was good for the GB. At that point, I just gave up. I didn't feel

like I knew what I was doing and how to eat. I found conflicting info on the

web. Was grapefruit good for the GB or did it cause an attack? If I ended up

needing to have emergency GB surgery in the third trimester, my baby likely

wouldn't have weighed enough to survive. If you have surgery while pregnant, it

has to be in the 2nd trimester and my window was closing quickly, so I decided

to do it. It wasn't a decision I made lightly. If I was able to make it till

after the baby to have the surgery, I likely would have been unable to

breastfeed and I usually breastfeed my kids for 1-2 years. I don't recommend GB

surgery, but in my case, I felt it was my best option. I also am pretty sure I

would not have been able to stomach the concoction. I tried drinking apple

cider vinegar during an attack once, which led to several bouts of vomiting,

which I had to take Zoloft (?) or something at the hospital to stop the

vomiting. I had my dd at 40 weeks and she weighed 6 lbs. My other kids were

right around 7 lbs, so had I had to have her early, she would have been very

tiny. She was very healthy and still is. She's now 5 months. I am concerned

though that I passed on a weak liver to her so trying to get healthy without

going through a big detox which would pass on lots of toxins to her via the

breastmilk. So anyways, there's your answer. I know you would not have

done the surgery, but to each his own.

Sheri

>

> I am looking for your liver friendly diet, I don't see it.

>

> Water?  more the better.

>

> What about serious probiotics?

>

> You mentioned that you did not want to do a cleanse during pregnancy, but you

chose to have surgery?

>

> Just wondering.

>

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[Guest guest]

Colonics are not a safe thing as it can cause disbyosis: remove all bacteri=

good and bad. It also imbalance nervous system as empty colon always will=be

filled with air. In Ayurveda enema used but with herbs and oil to calm =own

sustem. I think you may have allergy and there fore bags and other sym=toms It

can cause bloating too. Probably also bad bacteria overrgrow and c=use infection

like candida or other.You can start with probiotics but very=slowly from small

doses and if will not help check for other problems.Also=enzymes can help for

fat digestion, Ox bile or Bile acids.People with glut=n intolerance can`t digest

fat too. See Wrongdiagnosis.com to seach sympto=s.

>

> Hi everyone. Just wanted to give an update. I had my GB removed in April.

Not looking for judgements here. That is what I felt was best in my situation

at the time. Just thought I would share in case it helps anyone else. I was 19

weeks pregnant with my 4th child, had 6 severe attacks in 10 weeks, despite

eating a pretty strict liver friendly diet. The two weeks before my surgery I

had two colon hydrotherapy sessions done. A couple hours after the second one,

I had a severe attack. I believe I passed a stone b/c a few days later, at an

ultrasound before my surgery, there was now only one stone instead of 2, but it

was located at the end of the gallbladder, so it seemed that it was blocking the

main duct out possibly. I chose not to do a liver flush b/c I didn't feel 100%

sure about the safety of it while pregnant, and I didn't feel I knew enough

about it, and time was of the essence as I was having an attack about once a

week. I have always been constipated, so I feel that had I not had colon

hydrotherapy done b-4 a flush, I would have been in really bad shape as it all

would have just backed up and caused a lot of pain and cramping. My

hydrotherapist was recommended by a woman who passed all her gallstones via

colon hydrotherapy with coffee and drinking some special herbal teas in between

sessions. I couldn't take the teas being pregnant, nor the coffee enemas. The

colon hydro did help me a lot. Right after my surgery, for the next 3 months, I

could eat anything without problems pretty much. I did get some diarrhea here

and there if I ate out but no other problems. I could eat dairy without getting

headaches, and the bags under my eyes were gone. I thought it was from having a

bad GB removed, but now I believe it was from the colon hydro removing built up

toxins in my colon. Anyways, it's been 10 months since my surgery. Under eye

bags are back bad. I need to get in and have another colon hydro done, this

time with the coffee too. I will get diarrhea every once in a while, but

haven't in a few months. However, now I am getting really bad drop dead if you

are anywhere near me gas if I eat meat or chicken or any fats or oils even.

Within 20-30 minutes of eating something, I'm having gas like every 30-60

seconds. I'm already back to eating gluten and dairy free, but if I eat dairy

that also gives me gas. So, I probably have stones in my liver as opposed to

getting stuck in my gallbladder. Kind of stinks that I'm part of that " 40% " of

people who cannot go back to eating anything they want. I am nursing so I don't

want to do a liver flush right now. Oh I also developed anemia since I stopped

eating meat so when I gave birth I passed out shortly after. I think I was

always borderline anemic so now I'm taking iron along with vit C, enzymes, B12,

probiotics, CLO, prenatal, cal/mag, vit D and occassionally choline and AF Beta

food tablets. Should I still take the last two if I don't have a GB? Anyways,

I'm trying to follow a liver cleansing diet and will have another colonic done

but is there anything else I can do to help alleviate the gas? I can't even

tolerate ghee on homemade popcorn or olive oil on red potatoes. Also just read

in the Body Ecology Diet book (starting that for my daughter-autistic), that if

you have a bad liver, you pass that on to your baby. Great! Now she has a bad

liver too. I'm also drinking small amounts of a super green powder mix

w/chlorella and all that good stuff. But now I'm back to vegetarian and it

doesn't seem to give me enough strength and energy throughout the day. I don't

like fish. Anyways just wanted to add my experience.

>

> Sheri

>

> http://allnaturalmomof3.blogspot.com

>