Guest guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Nick has had it twice in the last year. Amy, mom to Nick, 7, CVID. Scarlet Fever Just wondering if anyone has experience with this. My 12-year-old son (CVID) was diagnosed with it today. Inital strep screen two days ago was negative, but he has a the classic rash and tongue now. Hoping the antibiotics kick in quickly. Long three days of 103 fevers in a kid who usually doesn't run above 100 even with sinusitis, bronchitis, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Hi, My son caught it 4 times. Twice he had to be hospitalized. Whenever anybody in his class had strep going around, his would advance into scarlet fever. Since he's on Neupogen now, he hasn't caught strep once. I hate scarlet fever, makes them so sick. When I'd seee that strawberry tongue, I knew we were in for a long battle. P.S. Rapid strep screens are notoriously inaccurate. Hope he feels better soon. Hugs, Sue From: sievertlaura <sievertlaura@...> Subject: Scarlet Fever Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 11:00 PM  Just wondering if anyone has experience with this. My 12-year-old son (CVID) was diagnosed with it today. Inital strep screen two days ago was negative, but he has a the classic rash and tongue now. Hoping the antibiotics kick in quickly. Long three days of 103 fevers in a kid who usually doesn't run above 100 even with sinusitis, bronchitis, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Both of my kids had it !  From: sievertlaura <sievertlaura@...> Subject: Scarlet Fever Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 11:00 PM  Just wondering if anyone has experience with this. My 12-year-old son (CVID) was diagnosed with it today. Inital strep screen two days ago was negative, but he has a the classic rash and tongue now. Hoping the antibiotics kick in quickly. Long three days of 103 fevers in a kid who usually doesn't run above 100 even with sinusitis, bronchitis, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Hi all, Just wondering, is it necessary to treat Scarlet Fever w/antibiotics? There's an 'outbreak' of it in Central Florida.... Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 How many of you know that there was a scarlet fever vaccine that was developed in 1924? The scarlet fever vaccine was pulled in the early 1940s because penicillin was a better treatment for it than the vaccine prophylaxis. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_fever jump to history. ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ From: upatdawnreadytowork <upatdawnreadytowork@...> Vaccinations Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: Scarlet Fever Thanks for the info Winnie....just getting my ducks in order just in case.... ~ > > Scarlet fever is Group A strep, as in strep throat. In fact, it's my understanding they confirm scarlet fever through a throat culture. So, it's really a strep outbreak rather than a scarlet fever outbreak, with the rash from scarlet fever some kids get and some don't along with strep throat (or impetigo). > > However, sometimes rashes are loosely diagnosed and assumed to be one thing or another. You'd really need lab confirmation first. I'd never take antibiotics without that. It's worth the couple of days wait, especially in these days of kids getting mysterious rashes/measles from the MMR or other vaccines. > > And, yes, I would give antibiotics for that. Others might not. > > Winnie > > Scarlet Fever > Vaccinations > > > Hi all, > > Just wondering, is it necessary to treat Scarlet Fever w/antibiotics? > > There's an 'outbreak' of it in Central Florida.... > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I didn't know that. It sure wouldn't be pulled nowadays, oh, no. They'd be pushing the newly-popular three series of shots for it. Winnie Scarlet Fever> > Vaccinations > > > > > Hi all,> > > Just wondering, is it necessary to treat Scarlet Fever > w/antibiotics?> > There's an 'outbreak' of it in Central Florida....> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 http://hpathy.com/cause-symptoms-treatment/scarlet-fever/ http://www.littlemountainhomeopathy.com/homeopathic-immunizations/history-of-homeopathic-immunizations Early History: Homeopathic Prevention of Scarlet Fever, Cholera and Smallpox In 1799, the founder of homeopathy, Dr. Hahnemann, used the homeopathic remedy Belladonna successfully to prevent Scarlet Fever. Following Hahnemann’s example, another eleven medical doctors prescribed Belladonna during the same epidemic. They reported that of 1,646 children exposed to scarlet fever after being given Belladonna, only 123 (7.4%) developed symptoms of infection. In contrast, the infection rate in those who did not receive the prophylactic was as high as 90%. In 1838 the Prussian Government ordered the use of Belladonna during all scarlet fever epidemics after a report from their chief of physicians, Hufeland, showed it to be an effective prophylactic. http://homeopathy.inbaltimore.org/saine3.html An editor of a medical journal challenged Lippe to publish his mandatory report to the state for the two previous years. He had not lost a single case ill from acute disease. He had the largest medical practice in Philadelphia. In 1849 here was an epidemic of scarlet fever. Lippe treated over 150 cases and lost none. Allopaths lost 90% of their cases and the rest were crippled for life. These results are not unique to Lippe. The homeopathic literature is full of these stories. When there was an epidemic of cholera in New York in 1849 the public demanded that the authorities convert one of the hospitals to homeopathy. They refused. In Genoa a rich person tried to build a hospital to treat victims of cholera with homeopathy. The authorities refused. This sort of response was universal. It was not just the AMA. If homeopathy were universally used, there would be a dramatic drop in the death rate. But people are trying to destroy homeopathy. Not only the morbidity from disease, the morbidity from allopathic treatment would be eliminated. Between 450,000 and 500,000 people a year die each year from iatrogenic disease. There is not just death, there are long term bad results from allopathic treatment. The doctor who organized a conference on autism said his child was normal at two years old. She got a vaccination, screamed all night long, then stopped talking. www.the-cma.org.uk/cma_images/Jayney's%20Presentation.pdf http://homeopathyplus.com.au/treatment-of-epidemic-diseases/ In Carlisle Lippe had treated scarlet fever. An allopathic doctor, Armstrong, had lost all the cases he had treated. Then three of his four children came down with scarlet fever and he went to Lippe. They were cured and he became a homeopath and moved to New Jersey. I think it was because he had treated his own children differently than his other patients and felt guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I have most of the remedies listed....what is a trusted company to order remedies from in the US? ~ > >Hi all, > >Just wondering, is it necessary to treat Scarlet Fever w/antibiotics? > >There's an 'outbreak' of it in Central Florida.... > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 You just wait. Just because exposed does NOT mean you will get this - it is about the health of your children and selves too. Strep is everywhere all the time. Sheri At 02:48 PM 1/9/2012, you wrote: >One more question - I have Belladonna on hand. As to the best of my >knowledge, we have not been exposed (?) ... should I wait to give >this rememdy until symptoms present or do it now? >~ > > > > > > http://hpathy.com/cause-symptoms-treatment/scarlet-fever/ > > > > > http://www.littlemountainhomeopathy.com/homeopathic-immunizations/history-of-hom\ eopathic-immunizations > > > > Early History: Homeopathic Prevention of Scarlet Fever, Cholera > and Smallpox > > > > In 1799, the founder of homeopathy, Dr. Hahnemann, used the > > homeopathic remedy Belladonna successfully to prevent Scarlet Fever. > > Following Hahnemann's example, another eleven medical doctors > > prescribed Belladonna during the same epidemic. They reported that of > > 1,646 children exposed to scarlet fever after being given Belladonna, > > only 123 (7.4%) developed symptoms of infection. In contrast, the > > infection rate in those who did not receive the prophylactic was as > > high as 90%. In 1838 the Prussian Government ordered the use of > > Belladonna during all scarlet fever epidemics after a report from > > their chief of physicians, Hufeland, showed it to be an effective > prophylactic. > > > > http://homeopathy.inbaltimore.org/saine3.html > > > > An editor of a medical journal challenged Lippe to publish his > > mandatory report to the state for the two previous years. He had not > > lost a single case ill from acute disease. He had the largest medical > > practice in Philadelphia. In 1849 here was an epidemic of scarlet > > fever. Lippe treated over 150 cases and lost none. Allopaths lost 90% > > of their cases and the rest were crippled for life. These results are > > not unique to Lippe. The homeopathic literature is full of these > > stories. When there was an epidemic of cholera in New York in 1849 > > the public demanded that the authorities convert one of the hospitals > > to homeopathy. They refused. In Genoa a rich person tried to build a > > hospital to treat victims of cholera with homeopathy. The authorities > > refused. This sort of response was universal. It was not just the > > AMA. If homeopathy were universally used, there would be a dramatic > > drop in the death rate. But people are trying to destroy homeopathy. > > Not only the morbidity from disease, the morbidity from allopathic > > treatment would be eliminated. Between 450,000 and 500,000 people a > > year die each year from iatrogenic disease. There is not just > > death, there are long term bad results from allopathic treatment. > > The doctor who organized a conference on autism said his child was > > normal at two years old. She got a vaccination, screamed all night > > long, then stopped talking. > > > > www.the-cma.org.uk/cma_images/Jayney's%20Presentation.pdf > > > > http://homeopathyplus.com.au/treatment-of-epidemic-diseases/ > > > > In Carlisle Lippe had treated scarlet fever. An allopathic doctor, > > Armstrong, had lost all the cases he had treated. Then three of > > his four children came down with scarlet fever and he went to Lippe. > > They were cured and he became a homeopath and moved to New Jersey. I > > think it was because he had treated his own children differently than > > his other patients and felt guilty. > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 I get either Hyland's/Standard Homeopathics or Boiron which are found in any natural food store or online. Vitacost.com sometimes has good prices if you happen to be ordering enough other stuff to justify the shipping cost. Winnie Re: Scarlet FeverVaccinations > I have most of the remedies listed....what is a trusted company > to order remedies from in the US?> ~> > > > >Hi all,> > >Just wondering, is it necessary to treat Scarlet Fever > w/antibiotics?> >There's an 'outbreak' of it in Central Florida....> > >> > >Thanks,> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >------------------------------------> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 saw this article and thought it may be worth a try http://www.windinherhair.com/data/articles/strep_throat.html Treating Strep Throat Naturally Strep throat was something I never had growing up. When anyone would talk about strep, I would wonder why it was different than just another sore throat, which I knew a lot about. As it turned out, years later I got strep and found out the difference. It was interesting how I knew it was strep throat. Quite simply, I was asleep and when I awoke and picked my head up off the pillow, a little voice in my head said, "Strep Throat." I didn't know what to think until I swallowed. My throat was on fire. So, this was Strep. Something I really didn't want to know about or have in my life - ever - was now part of my experience. Having read about what a person could do naturally for strep, I set about seeing if I had anything in my cabinet to accommodate the healing process. I didn't. Two things are needed to bring strep to balance. Apple cider vinegar and Bifidophilus. Everyone knows about the apple cider vinegar, and Bifidophilus is the same as Acidophilus, only twice as strong. Strep throat happens when the stomach is out of balance which imbalances the friendly flora of the intestines. Both are great but one would have to do and that was the apple cider vinegar. Off to the store I went to get the apple cider. After dragging myself to the store and back with the vinegar, I poured a small amount into a glass and went to the bathroom to drink it. I wasn't sure what was going to happen and I wanted to be in the right place for any accidents in case I couldn't keep it down. My first swallow of the vinegar almost sent me through the ceiling and on up to the roof! It burned midway down my esophagus which told me the bacteria were already traveling down to my heart. Out of control strep can go into something called Rheumatic fever which is damaging to the heart. My second swallow wasn't any better. I wondered if I would be able to do this but I was determined to give it all I had rather than call the doctor for a prescription. Throughout the day I carried my glass of vinegar with me and took sips every five minutes. Ever so slowly, the sore throat was resolving itself - but not fast enough for me. By late afternoon I was beginning to wonder if I should call a doctor. This was nothing to mess with and I was scared. As I was wondering what to do a little voice in my head said, "You can do this!" It wasn't my voice saying that because I honestly didn't think I was going to be able to get rid of it on my own. Because I knew it wasn't my voice, something told me that someone was watching over me and helping me through this and if that someone had faith that I could get through this, then I should lean on their faith. I kept on sipping the vinegar. Well, it was now evening and my throat was finally beginning to feel different. At least when I swallowed the vinegar, it wasn't taking me into an out-of-body experience. My throat actually was better. By the next morning, my throat was back to normal. Actual healing time for Strep Throat with apple cider vinegar was twenty-four hours, although Bifidophilus would have hastened the healing. Since that time many people have come asking about strep throat, saying that even with the doctor's prescriptions they keep getting it. I always tell them about the apple cider vinegar treatment and they always come back saying it was the thing that really kicked strep's butt and made it so it never came back. I know my guardians were watching over me during that twenty-four hours when I was so sick. Knock on wood, it's been the only time I've ever had to deal with it, but if I ever have to again, I'll be more sure of the treatment and at least know what to expect. Vaccinations From: wharrison@...Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:06:19 +0000Subject: Re: Re: Scarlet Fever I get either Hyland's/Standard Homeopathics or Boiron which are found in any natural food store or online. Vitacost.com sometimes has good prices if you happen to be ordering enough other stuff to justify the shipping cost. Winnie Re: Scarlet FeverVaccinations > I have most of the remedies listed....what is a trusted company > to order remedies from in the US?> ~> > > > >Hi all,> > >Just wondering, is it necessary to treat Scarlet Fever > w/antibiotics?> >There's an 'outbreak' of it in Central Florida....> > >> > >Thanks,> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >------------------------------------> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 THanks!! ~ > > > >Hi all, > > > >Just wondering, is it necessary to treat Scarlet Fever > > w/antibiotics?> >There's an 'outbreak' of it in Central Florida.... > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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