Re: Re: Four year old cannot talk

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Yes, most school districts have this evaluation & it's usually through something called early intervention or special services. They will evaluate your child as early as 2 years old. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 29, 2012, at 12:49 PM, "nanack909" <nanack@...> wrote:

,

That is good to hear that the schools have a speech evaluation, but I wonder if this applies to kids that are too young to be in school?

will not be in elementary school until Aug. 2013 and if he keeps getting worse with his speech it will be much harder to get him cleared up.

>

> Hi, I am not sure about the vaccine aspect, but I did want to tell you that all children qualify for services through the school districts. I am not sure how you go about it... But I would call the local elementary school and ask how he can get a speech evaluation. I know when my son was 3 they did a pre-screening in RI for any child in the district (no cost). Good luck to you and your family!

>

>

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HI :

This sounds like a tricky situation with the family dynamics. Poor little

guy. Good thing he has such a caring Grandmother in his life.

Autism: it is growing at such dramatic rates and it astounds me that the

medical profession does not look at it closer. The new stats just a few

years ago were one in a hundred children. I just heard that either today or

tomorrow they are releasing new stats with 1 in 88 children impacted by

autism. Now they are talking about changing the assessment protocol and may

take Aspergers out of the equation. They can take it out but the disease

still exists and it is still on the Autism Spectrum. Two decades ago it was

one in ten thousand children now one in 88. Something is terrible wrong with

our children-this is an epidemic of astronomical proportions and yet the

system will not investigate thoroughly to find the causative factors. I was

listening to a documentary a few months ago and one of the pharmaceutical

people said that the only reason for the increase in incidence is because of

better diagnosis. However, if you ask teachers who have been in the schools

for the last two decades they will tell you that there is a huge increase of

children with neurological impairment in their classrooms. The incidence of

auto immune disease is dramatically increasing as well.

This is a life long affliction -my son is doing much better as we have

worked hard at providing neurological organization therapies and metabolic

work but it will be something he will have to deal with for the rest of his

life. Fortunately his symptoms are far less severe and I know so many

avenues of help for him if or when things pop up again. I am Truly blessed

to have found so many resources( all outside the box) to help him and

others.

Just a little rampage of my own on the chicken pox vaccine. My children

both had this when young-no big deal other than very uncomfortable with

itchy and none of us got much sleep for a few days. But it went away and

other than one scar on my daughter's forehead no lasting complications. On

the flip side my son was likely vaccine damaged in utero (Rubella) and then

later at 18 months ( Rubella most likely) And it hasn't gone away almost 25

years later.

Sylvia

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From: " nanack909 " <nanack@...>

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:38 PM

<Vaccinations >

Subject: Re: Four year old cannot talk

> Sylvia,

> I am sorry your son has autism but as you probably know it is an epidemic

> in this country, not that that makes it any easier to contend with, but

> you surely are not alone. Has your son been treated for autism in any

> way? I do have a document that I received a couple of years ago that told

> how to cure autism but you may already have heard of this kind of

> protocol. I hope he is showing signs of improvement.

> I wish I could answer your questions about but since as I mentioned

> in a previous email I have had almost no contact with him in a year,

> except a short time at Christmas party. I only know that when I saw him

> tues. night he did not look as bright and outgoing as he was a year ago.

> And the episode of his not being able to follow simple instructions about

> having his picture taken concerned me. And since he is nearly

> incommunicable it is very hard to know if he is understanding what he

> hears, but when he came to our house a few times last year I would have

> said he had normal recognitive ability. I never once questioned whether

> he was hard of hearing, etc. as he always showed a good reaction to

> whatever suggestions I made. I did notice the other night that he was

> quieter and no gibberish the whole time we were there.

> I have no idea what the typical vac schedule for toddlers is but it is not

> out of the realm of possibility that he has had a shot between the age of

> 3 and 4 which would increase his chances of being a victim of more vac

> damage since I have spent time with him.

> I remember his mother telling us that he was a picky eater from a young

> age but again I do not know if this is continuing. I do know she had an

> extremely hard time potty training him, he would hold his BM for days and

> days and only go in his diaper until he was 4 years old. She told me at

> chrismas that he was finally over that nightmare.

> If he has had any tests I can only hope to find out when I talk to his

> father on Sat., along with other information that I would like to know,

> specifically when did he have last vac and have they dicussed the fact

> that is not developing normally.

> Hoping to find out more in near future.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Some areas of the US are seeing a 1 in 30 rate of autism, such as Northern CA. ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ From: Pathways - Sylvia <sylvia@...> Vaccinations Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Re: Four year old cannot talk

HI :

This sounds like a tricky situation with the family dynamics. Poor little

guy. Good thing he has such a caring Grandmother in his life.

Autism: it is growing at such dramatic rates and it astounds me that the

medical profession does not look at it closer. The new stats just a few

years ago were one in a hundred children. I just heard that either today or

tomorrow they are releasing new stats with 1 in 88 children impacted by

autism. Now they are talking about changing the assessment protocol and may

take Aspergers out of the equation. They can take it out but the disease

still exists and it is still on the Autism Spectrum. Two decades ago it was

one in ten thousand children now one in 88. Something is terrible wrong with

our children-this is an epidemic of astronomical proportions and yet the

system will not investigate thoroughly to find the causative factors. I was

listening to a documentary a few months ago and one of the pharmaceutical

people said that the only reason for the increase in incidence is because of

better diagnosis. However, if you ask teachers who have been in the schools

for the last two decades they will tell you that there is a huge increase of

children with neurological impairment in their classrooms. The incidence of

auto immune disease is dramatically increasing as well.

This is a life long affliction -my son is doing much better as we have

worked hard at providing neurological organization therapies and metabolic

work but it will be something he will have to deal with for the rest of his

life. Fortunately his symptoms are far less severe and I know so many

avenues of help for him if or when things pop up again. I am Truly blessed

to have found so many resources( all outside the box) to help him and

others.

Just a little rampage of my own on the chicken pox vaccine. My children

both had this when young-no big deal other than very uncomfortable with

itchy and none of us got much sleep for a few days. But it went away and

other than one scar on my daughter's forehead no lasting complications. On

the flip side my son was likely vaccine damaged in utero (Rubella) and then

later at 18 months ( Rubella most likely) And it hasn't gone away almost 25

years later.

Sylvia

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From: "nanack909" <nanack@...>

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:38 PM

<Vaccinations >

Subject: Re: Four year old cannot talk

> Sylvia,

> I am sorry your son has autism but as you probably know it is an epidemic

> in this country, not that that makes it any easier to contend with, but

> you surely are not alone. Has your son been treated for autism in any

> way? I do have a document that I received a couple of years ago that told

> how to cure autism but you may already have heard of this kind of

> protocol. I hope he is showing signs of improvement.

> I wish I could answer your questions about but since as I mentioned

> in a previous email I have had almost no contact with him in a year,

> except a short time at Christmas party. I only know that when I saw him

> tues. night he did not look as bright and outgoing as he was a year ago.

> And the episode of his not being able to follow simple instructions about

> having his picture taken concerned me. And since he is nearly

> incommunicable it is very hard to know if he is understanding what he

> hears, but when he came to our house a few times last year I would have

> said he had normal recognitive ability. I never once questioned whether

> he was hard of hearing, etc. as he always showed a good reaction to

> whatever suggestions I made. I did notice the other night that he was

> quieter and no gibberish the whole time we were there.

> I have no idea what the typical vac schedule for toddlers is but it is not

> out of the realm of possibility that he has had a shot between the age of

> 3 and 4 which would increase his chances of being a victim of more vac

> damage since I have spent time with him.

> I remember his mother telling us that he was a picky eater from a young

> age but again I do not know if this is continuing. I do know she had an

> extremely hard time potty training him, he would hold his BM for days and

> days and only go in his diaper until he was 4 years old. She told me at

> chrismas that he was finally over that nightmare.

> If he has had any tests I can only hope to find out when I talk to his

> father on Sat., along with other information that I would like to know,

> specifically when did he have last vac and have they dicussed the fact

> that is not developing normally.

> Hoping to find out more in near future.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HiI had a history of recurrent miscarriage so I had a scan at 7 weeks to check for heartbeat, I also had one at 22 weeks to check for heart defects etc because I was planning a home birth and I wanted to be sure that he was healthy enough to be born at home. I had another at 30 weeks because they said my bump was 'too small' and he wasn't growing, that turned out to be nonsense because he was born 9lbs, 1oz so not exactly small! I tried telling them that I am tiny (5 foot 2 and at the time was the second smallest women's clothing size - my teenagers are bigger than me but they wouldn't listen). They turned on the 4D which at the time I agreed to because I wanted to give the pictures to a pro-life group. Glad I gave them the pictures but I am

sorry I allowed it in the first place. I won't for another baby. I'm sure it had something to do with it.He was natural childbirth at home, no drugs, not even gas and air, he's never had children's tylenol, never had an infection or needed a doctor. He had a bit of facial eczema when I weaned him on solid food, that I cured by taking out the cows milk and he had 2 bouts of gastroenteritis, one at age one year and one at age two years. He has four sisters so everyone is talking around him all the time yet he didn't string a full sentance together till nearly 3.I wasn't too concerned and figured he'd catch up eventually, but the other kids at his playgroup started walking away from him when they couldn't understand him and he got upset saying they don't want to be his friend because they can't hear him, so then I decided to get

the speech therapy, mainly to save his feelings. He's almost 5 and just been diagnosed with severe speech sound defect and I'm kicking myself that I didn't read the AIMS stuff first. I was afraid if he had a heart problem he'd stop breathing at the home delivery and the ambulance wouldn't be in time so I did it to reassure myself that he would be fine but now I may have harmed him in the process.The scans have never been tested for safety - they were invented for warfare purposes and even after the first obstetrical scans in the 50's they were only ever meant for high risk women, not for everyone. From: nanack909 <nanack@...> Vaccinations Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2012, 22:17 Subject: Re: Four year old cannot talk

Joanna,

You have really make a case for the risks of ultra sound scans with your son's background of totally natural rearing. Were you at some kind of risks during your pregnancy to cause you to have the scans?

I know 's mother had scans during her pregnancy with him as she had problems like high blood pressure, allergies and asthma but I do not know how many. But these are the health factors that made them insist that she have one every month during her second pregnancy so it could have been true with too. This family may have 2 damaged kids on their hands as the baby is 10 months old and Mom said she not only does not say anything at all but no attempts at vocal expression that a normal baby has. I had 3 daughters and I know that every one of them was saying several words by 6 months and I don't even want to try to remember how many they were saying by 10 months.

That is alot of scans that they forced on 's mom and it is only logical that that much exposure to radiation while in development would have some negative ramifications. and you add that to the assaults of vacs immediately after birth and you have a recipe for every type of impairment on the planet, physical, emotional and neurological. And all this in the name of protecting the babies????

>

> It's not just vaccines, either. Ultrasound scans can cause speech delay according to some studies. My almost 5 year old is around 1 year delayed with his speech, he didn't start talking till nearly 3 years old and he has just started speech therapy. His therapist diagnosed him with a 'severe speech sound defect' - he has never been vaccinated, had no antibiotics, no vit K, no medicine of any kind except homeopathy and supplements and he has never had any major illness (2 bouts of gastro), he was also breastfed till nearly 4 years old.

>

> I do wonder about the scans because I since read they've been linked to left handedness, ADHD and speech delay. I had 3 scans when pregnant with him. The info is on the AIMS website.

>

>

>

> >

>

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Those clusters are disturbing. Families need to look at water quality, ground seepage from herbicides, pesticides if in rural area or close to a place like a golf course, factories, mining. I often wonder about living in a very rural area. At the time thought it was great but now know not so. We were surrounded by large farms-lots of chemical fertilizers, space. They would even aerial spray at times.

Sylvia

From: maureen gradvohl

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:21 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: Re: Four year old cannot talk

Some areas of the US are seeing a 1 in 30 rate of autism, such as Northern CA.

~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~

From: Pathways - Sylvia <sylvia@...>Vaccinations Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:26 PMSubject: Re: Re: Four year old cannot talk

HI :This sounds like a tricky situation with the family dynamics. Poor little guy. Good thing he has such a caring Grandmother in his life.Autism: it is growing at such dramatic rates and it astounds me that the medical profession does not look at it closer. The new stats just a few years ago were one in a hundred children. I just heard that either today or tomorrow they are releasing new stats with 1 in 88 children impacted by autism. Now they are talking about changing the assessment protocol and may take Aspergers out of the equation. They can take it out but the disease still exists and it is still on the Autism Spectrum. Two decades ago it was one in ten thousand children now one in 88. Something is terrible wrong with our children-this is an epidemic of astronomical proportions and yet the system will not investigate thoroughly to find the causative factors. I was listening to a documentary a few months ago and one of the pharmaceutical people said that the only reason for the increase in incidence is because of better diagnosis. However, if you ask teachers who have been in the schools for the last two decades they will tell you that there is a huge increase of children with neurological impairment in their classrooms. The incidence of auto immune disease is dramatically increasing as well.This is a life long affliction -my son is doing much better as we have worked hard at providing neurological organization therapies and metabolic work but it will be something he will have to deal with for the rest of his life. Fortunately his symptoms are far less severe and I know so many avenues of help for him if or when things pop up again. I am Truly blessed to have found so many resources( all outside the box) to help him and others.Just a little rampage of my own on the chicken pox vaccine. My children both had this when young-no big deal other than very uncomfortable with itchy and none of us got much sleep for a few days. But it went away and other than one scar on my daughter's forehead no lasting complications. On the flip side my son was likely vaccine damaged in utero (Rubella) and then later at 18 months ( Rubella most likely) And it hasn't gone away almost 25 years later.Sylvia--------------------------------------------------From: "nanack909" <nanack@...>Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:38 PM<Vaccinations >Subject: Re: Four year old cannot talk> Sylvia,> I am sorry your son has autism but as you probably know it is an epidemic > in this country, not that that makes it any easier to contend with, but > you surely are not alone. Has your son been treated for autism in any > way? I do have a document that I received a couple of years ago that told > how to cure autism but you may already have heard of this kind of > protocol. I hope he is showing signs of improvement.> I wish I could answer your questions about but since as I mentioned > in a previous email I have had almost no contact with him in a year, > except a short time at Christmas party. I only know that when I saw him > tues. night he did not look as bright and outgoing as he was a year ago. > And the episode of his not being able to follow simple instructions about > having his picture taken concerned me. And since he is nearly > incommunicable it is very hard to know if he is understanding what he > hears, but when he came to our house a few times last year I would have > said he had normal recognitive ability. I never once questioned whether > he was hard of hearing, etc. as he always showed a good reaction to > whatever suggestions I made. I did notice the other night that he was > quieter and no gibberish the whole time we were there.> I have no idea what the typical vac schedule for toddlers is but it is not > out of the realm of possibility that he has had a shot between the age of > 3 and 4 which would increase his chances of being a victim of more vac > damage since I have spent time with him.> I remember his mother telling us that he was a picky eater from a young > age but again I do not know if this is continuing. I do know she had an > extremely hard time potty training him, he would hold his BM for days and > days and only go in his diaper until he was 4 years old. She told me at > chrismas that he was finally over that nightmare.> If he has had any tests I can only hope to find out when I talk to his > father on Sat., along with other information that I would like to know, > specifically when did he have last vac and have they dicussed the fact > that is not developing normally.> Hoping to find out more in near future.> >>>>

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AT THIS POINT no insurance can demand that

Sheri

At 01:57 PM 3/29/2012, you wrote:

>Winnie,

>Your son's case sounds alot like , and what a wonderful

>success story that he turned out to be. I am so glad for you that

>you were able to get him to speak so quickly after starting SI, that

>sounds amazing to me.

>So this is something else to investigate and all I need is to get

>his parent's agreement that he does need testing.

>I;m not sure what they believe about vacs and any problems, don't

>even know if they read all the documentation I sent them, and still

>do as I forward alot of vac info to everyone on my email list.

>I feel sure they are still allowing vacs as she told me that she

>would lose her insurance if she refused them. I did not question

>that as I know what the world is doing to force people to give vacs,

>but just found out yesterday that she could have gotten an exemption.

>That is something else I will talk to them about if I can get this

>subject opened up with them.

>I know you are very proud of your son and you have a right to be.

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi, ,

> >

> > One of my sons was the same way--gibberish, couldn't understand

> him. He was vaccinated. We did have him tested through the public

> schools at age four. We were told he could talk based on his

> ability to form certain sounds, but he " chose not to " (?!?) and to

> recheck in a year. Hopefully they're more knowledgable now--this

> was in 1995 when autism was beginning to be known about but not much.

> >

> > Soon after that, a Sensory Integration therapist came into his

> school (Montessori) and one of the teachers learned how to use some

> of the techniques. One was putting my son in a giant swinging sling

> and he did right/left arm crossover movements. After about two

> sessions he began to speak in full, coherent sentences about normal

> things. He was 4 1/2--as was Einstein when he finally started to

> talk, by the way. So, it didn't take much and the person was barely

> trained in it. Here's a website for one of the first books on SI:

> (http://out-of-sync-child.com/)

> >

> > Later on my son had trouble reading and SI helped there, too.

> Other symptoms were poor handwriting. That and the speech are

> pretty much what Sylvia was talking about with expressive language

> problems. He had trouble getting things from his brain to his lips

> and fingers. He saw a speech-pathologist, too, who had him work

> with kids who had the CAPD that Vicki mentioned. He did real well

> with them, although she said he didn't have CAPD (who knows, though?).

> >

> > Although he consistently did poorly on the verbal parts of tests

> like SAT's and reading comprehension, he excelled in other areas

> and is just finishing his first year of college after a successful

> high school career. He is extremely bright, and the one I turn to

> for help figuring things out. And he also has beautiful handwriting now, too.

> >

> > Definitely look into the Sensory Integration therapy. It might

> come under Occupational Therapy. The public schools should offer

> services for that (and for free), so suggest they have him tested,

> and for CAPD, too.

> >

> > Do his parents understand the connection to speech problems and

> vaccines? Do you think they'll stop vaccinating him?

> >

> > Winnie

> >

>

>

>

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>

>

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Yeah, let's hope that the doctor that he goes to is not like the rest.

From:

nanack909 <nanack@...>;

To:

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Subject:

Re: Four year old cannot talk

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Thu, Mar 29, 2012 9:27:03 PM

Since I know next to nothing about what has been checked on I can only surmise that any doctor worth his salt would have looked at that, especially if he had the brains to notice that a 4 1/2 year old kid could not talk beyond the level of a 2 year old.

You were lucky that someone spotted the wax in your daughter's ears and that she improved after natural meds and detox.

And this gives me something else to ask Jeff when I talk to him.

>

> Has his ears been checked?  My daughter (vaccine damaged) had thick ear wax plugs in her ears and only spoke gibberish until they were removed by an acupuncturist.   After that she was better but only able to speak well after a lot of natural medicine and heavy metal detox. 

> Hopefully for your little guy its just a bunch of wax.

>  

>  

>  

>

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My son is on Mountain Health Plan, which is somehow connected to Medicaid. I have to fill out a form every year saying which vaccines he has and the doctor has to sign it, if I don't, I will only be elligible for the basic form of coverage, not the extended one.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, he's my favorite (don't tell the others!).

I wonder if 's mother just said that about the insurance company as a way not to discuss it. Maybe leave the vaccines out of the discussion about getting help. Good luck. I'm sure many of us are facing or might be facing this with our children/grandchildren and their spouses. I tell my boys now they can't date anyone who might vaccinate my future grandchildren!

Winnie

Re: Four year old cannot talkVaccinations > Winnie,> Your son's case sounds alot like , and what a wonderful > success story that he turned out to be. I am so glad for you > that you were able to get him to speak so quickly after starting > SI, that sounds amazing to me. > So this is something else to investigate and all I need is to > get his parent's agreement that he does need testing.> I;m not sure what they believe about vacs and any problems, > don't even know if they read all the documentation I sent them, > and still do as I forward alot of vac info to everyone on my > email list.> I feel sure they are still allowing vacs as she told me that she > would lose her insurance if she refused them. I did not > question that as I know what the world is doing to force people > to give vacs, but just found out yesterday that she could have > gotten an exemption.> That is something else I will talk to them about if I can get > this subject opened up with them.> I know you are very proud of your son and you have a right to be.> > > > > > >> > Hi, ,> > > > One of my sons was the same way--gibberish, couldn't > understand him. He was vaccinated. We did have him tested > through the public schools at age four. We were told he could > talk based on his ability to form certain sounds, but he "chose > not to" (?!?) and to recheck in a year. Hopefully they're more > knowledgable now--this was in 1995 when autism was beginning to > be known about but not much.> > > > Soon after that, a Sensory Integration therapist came into his > school (Montessori) and one of the teachers learned how to use > some of the techniques. One was putting my son in a giant > swinging sling and he did right/left arm crossover movements. > After about two sessions he began to speak in full, coherent > sentences about normal things. He was 4 1/2--as was Einstein > when he finally started to talk, by the way. So, it didn't take > much and the person was barely trained in it. Here's a website > for one of the first books on SI: (http://out-of-sync-child.com/)> > > > Later on my son had trouble reading and SI helped there, too. > Other symptoms were poor handwriting. That and the speech are > pretty much what Sylvia was talking about with expressive > language problems. He had trouble getting things from his brain > to his lips and fingers. He saw a speech-pathologist, too, who > had him work with kids who had the CAPD that Vicki mentioned. He > did real well with them, although she said he didn't have CAPD > (who knows, though?).> > > > Although he consistently did poorly on the verbal parts of > tests like SAT's and reading comprehension, he excelled in other > areas and is just finishing his first year of college after a > successful high school career. He is extremely bright, and the > one I turn to for help figuring things out. And he also has > beautiful handwriting now, too.> > > > Definitely look into the Sensory Integration therapy. It might > come under Occupational Therapy. The public schools should offer > services for that (and for free), so suggest they have him > tested, and for CAPD, too. > > > > Do his parents understand the connection to speech problems > and vaccines? Do you think they'll stop vaccinating him?> > > > Winnie> > > >

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It could have been the ultrasound but on the other hand my most verbal child (who spoke early and practically in complete, grammatically-correct sentences from day one) had the most thorough ultrasounds of all of mine.

Of course, that could explain his difficulties over the years with adrenal fatigue/stress/anxiety, come to think of it. We knew he was "born with" whatever caused his behavior problems and I could never pinpoint it. Hmm.

It's good you figured out what was going on with your son and you should feel optimistic that this will be resolved.

Winnie

Re: Four year old cannot talk> > > > Joanna,> You have really make a case for the risks of ultra sound scans > with your son's background of totally natural rearing. Were you > at some kind of risks during your pregnancy to cause you to have > the scans?> I know 's mother had scans during her pregnancy with him > as she had problems like high blood pressure, allergies and > asthma but I do not know how many. But these are the health > factors that made them insist that she have one every month > during her second pregnancy so it could have been true with > too. This family may have 2 damaged kids on their hands > as the baby is 10 months old and Mom said she not only does not > say anything at all but no attempts at vocal expression that a > normal baby has. I had 3 daughters and I know that every one of > them was saying several words by 6 months and I don't even want > to try to remember how many they were saying by 10 months.> That is alot of scans that they forced on 's mom and it is > only logical that that much exposure to radiation while in > development would have some negative ramifications. and you add > that to the assaults of vacs immediately after birth and you > have a recipe for every type of impairment on the planet, > physical, emotional and neurological. And all this in the name > of protecting the babies????> > > > >> > It's not just vaccines, either. Ultrasound scans can cause > speech delay according to some studies. My almost 5 year old > is around 1 year delayed with his speech, he didn't start > talking till nearly 3 years old and he has just started speech > therapy. His therapist diagnosed him with a 'severe speech > sound defect' - he has never been vaccinated, had no > antibiotics, no vit K, no medicine of any kind except homeopathy > and supplements and he has never had any major illness (2 bouts > of gastro), he was also breastfed till nearly 4 years old.> > > > I do wonder about the scans because I since read they've been > linked to left handedness, ADHD and speech delay. I had 3 > scans when pregnant with him. The info is on the AIMS website.> > > > > > > > >> >> > >

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I think he'll get there eventually, Winnie, he's a very healthy little boy apart from this one issue, thanks for your email. I think there are so many toxins in the world (plastics, microwave, wifi, pesticides, cell phones, TV radiation etc that they already have a toxic load, then add in environmental pollution like car fumes and mercury in the sea and if you put vaccines in with that, in my opinion that finishes some kids off). It's a wonder any of us manage to stay healthy. From: "wharrison@..."

<wharrison@...> Vaccinations Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2012, 14:36 Subject: Re: Re: Four year old cannot talk

It could have been the ultrasound but on the other hand my most verbal child (who spoke early and practically in complete, grammatically-correct sentences from day one) had the most thorough ultrasounds of all of mine.

Of course, that could explain his difficulties over the years with adrenal fatigue/stress/anxiety, come to think of it. We knew he was "born with" whatever caused his behavior problems and I could never pinpoint it. Hmm.

It's good you figured out what was going on with your son and you should feel optimistic that this will be resolved.

Winnie

Re: Four year old cannot talk> > > > Joanna,> You have really make a case for the risks of ultra sound scans > with your son's background of totally natural rearing. Were you > at some kind of risks during your pregnancy to cause you to have > the scans?> I know 's mother had scans during her pregnancy with him > as she had problems like high blood pressure, allergies and > asthma but I do not know how many. But these are the health > factors that made them insist that she have one every month > during her second pregnancy so it could have been true with > too. This family may have 2 damaged kids on their hands > as the baby is 10 months old and Mom said

she not only does not > say anything at all but no attempts at vocal expression that a > normal baby has. I had 3 daughters and I know that every one of > them was saying several words by 6 months and I don't even want > to try to remember how many they were saying by 10 months.> That is alot of scans that they forced on 's mom and it is > only logical that that much exposure to radiation while in > development would have some negative ramifications. and you add > that to the assaults of vacs immediately after birth and you > have a recipe for every type of impairment on the planet, > physical, emotional and neurological. And all this in the name > of protecting the babies????> > > > >> > It's not just vaccines, either. Ultrasound scans can cause

> speech delay according to some studies. My almost 5 year old > is around 1 year delayed with his speech, he didn't start > talking till nearly 3 years old and he has just started speech > therapy. His therapist diagnosed him with a 'severe speech > sound defect' - he has never been vaccinated, had no > antibiotics, no vit K, no medicine of any kind except homeopathy > and supplements and he has never had any major illness (2 bouts > of gastro), he was also breastfed till nearly 4 years old.> > > > I do wonder about the scans because I since read they've been > linked to left handedness, ADHD and speech delay. I had 3 > scans when pregnant with him. The info is on the AIMS website.> > > > > > > > >> >> > >