Re: Pre-School Vaccine Question

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At 04:45 PM 3/9/2012, you wrote:

>Hello, I'm a mom to two un-vacinated boys in New Jersey. My oldest

>will start pre-school this Sept. We are looking at schools now. My

>question is do I ask up front if they accept religious exemptions?

>(or will this raise a red flag) I understand that they have the

>right to deny entry since they are not state funded.

Many private schools accept some state funds - if they accept

anything they have to go with the law

You will just have to ask unless you want to be caught off guard if

they say no and you have paid for school

Just say something like " I assume, of course, you accept state

vaccine exemptions, as indicated in the law " or something.

Find out if they accept any state money for anything - milk? lunches?

Sheri

>OR do I just sneak the religious exemption in with the physical form

>and hope for the best? Any other pre-school experiences would be

>helpful. Thanks.

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I didn’t ask. They asked for ’s “imm card” and I just took them in the exemption. As soon as I knew he would be going to a preschool outside the home ()because of the autism), I went to the health dept and got everyone exempted. I wouldn’t bring it up. This is your right as a parent. I would treat your exemption as matter of factly as it deserves and wouldn’t act apologetic or anything like you are trying to ‘win’ them over..for lack of a better description. Anyway that is what we did. isn’t exempted but I haven’t gotten down there yet. She’s not in school yet and I can’t afford private school so probably I will not ever school out of the home except for david. They’re little and preschool is so fun at home, have you considered just skipping it? I had in preschool for 2 months. She liked it once there but we couldn’t really afford it anyway. She got to the point where she wanted to play with her brother and I missed her help while she was gone for someone to play with the baby..so after 2 months I just said forget it. at that time though I was still vaxxing, just loosely. In fact, she wanted to go and that was how I got her “last shot” she needed..she co-operated b/c I was told she had to have it Nita, homeschooling mompreneur to 8 kids and 2 online web stores! for Moms and kids, prenatal to tweens: http://www.kneehigh2agrasshopper.com A tiscuit, a tasket, here's a gift basket: http://www.nitasbaskets.com I can be reached at info@... or nitagarner@...I have to walk early in the morning,before my brain figures out what I'm doing...

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I always make sure they know we use exemptions. I hand the exemption form in attached to the health form in person, and say "Here's the health form, and I've attached our exemption to it. That should be all you need, right?" I would not sneak it in because you certainly don't want to ever be in the position where they might vaccinate your child in school or in an emergency hospital visit.

But I think it's a good idea to wait until AFTER you've been accepted and BEFORE you sign the enrollment contract to casually ask the head of school something like "and you do accept legal exemptions, right?" They shouldn't say no. They want your business. In this economy, most schools that charge tuition are hurting for students. As long as they meet state laws, they're happy to take your money.

Winnie Pre-School Vaccine QuestionVaccinations > Hello, I'm a mom to two un-vacinated boys in New Jersey. My > oldest will start pre-school this Sept. We are looking at > schools now. My question is do I ask up front if they accept > religious exemptions? (or will this raise a red flag) I > understand that they have the right to deny entry since they are > not state funded. OR do I just sneak the religious exemption in > with the physical form and hope for the best? Any other pre-> school experiences would be helpful. Thanks. > >

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I registered my children in private, public, religious and home schools. I always brought a copy of the law with me and handed that to them with my completed vaccine forms, not the enrollment forms. CA has one form upon which you fill in the vaccine info or you check off the exemption. I checked off the exemption and handed them a copy of the applicable State Codes. I never had a problem. I was the science teacher in the religious private school when I enrolled my child there. ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ From: RosieRose <roseinscho@...> Vaccinations Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 3:45 PM Subject: Pre-School Vaccine Question

Hello, I'm a mom to two un-vacinated boys in New Jersey. My oldest will start pre-school this Sept. We are looking at schools now. My question is do I ask up front if they accept religious exemptions? (or will this raise a red flag) I understand that they have the right to deny entry since they are not state funded. OR do I just sneak the religious exemption in with the physical form and hope for the best? Any other pre-school experiences would be helpful. Thanks.

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Great advise, thank you sheri

> >Hello, I'm a mom to two un-vacinated boys in New Jersey. My oldest

> >will start pre-school this Sept. We are looking at schools now. My

> >question is do I ask up front if they accept religious exemptions?

> >(or will this raise a red flag) I understand that they have the

> >right to deny entry since they are not state funded.

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> Many private schools accept some state funds - if they accept

> anything they have to go with the law

> You will just have to ask unless you want to be caught off guard if

> they say no and you have paid for school

> Just say something like " I assume, of course, you accept state

> vaccine exemptions, as indicated in the law " or something.

> Find out if they accept any state money for anything - milk? lunches?

> Sheri

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> >OR do I just sneak the religious exemption in with the physical form

> >and hope for the best? Any other pre-school experiences would be

> >helpful. Thanks.

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When I was looking to get my son into a private school last year, (which we didn't end up doing because it was too expensive), I talked to another mom whose unvaxed kids went there, and she said to NOT mention it. It seems even though a lot of people knew you could get your unvaxed kids in there, it was sort of unspoken... I didn't try it after all, so I don't KNOW, but that's what I was told.

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I just realized that you said you have an exemption, mine is a different story entirely since I don't have one, so I guess disregard what I said in my last post...

[Guest guest]

The preschool where I send my kids is completely private (it's a religious-based

program.) They follow state guidelines for vaccine exemptions, though. I asked

the Director as I was enrolling my oldest if it was a problem he was not

vaccinated as I handed her all the exemption paperwork. She said that they had a

few who weren't completely vaccinated, and it was just " easier " to follow the

State's guidelines, even though they are private. (I later joined the parent

board, and am on the financial committee, I am positive about their not

receiving ANY public funds.)

You could always casually ask while you're looking at schools, but I don't

really see the need to. Just have everything ready to go, and act like it's

assumed it would be accepted.

> >Hello, I'm a mom to two un-vacinated boys in New Jersey. My oldest

> >will start pre-school this Sept. We are looking at schools now. My

> >question is do I ask up front if they accept religious exemptions?

> >(or will this raise a red flag) I understand that they have the

> >right to deny entry since they are not state funded.

>

> Many private schools accept some state funds - if they accept

> anything they have to go with the law

> You will just have to ask unless you want to be caught off guard if

> they say no and you have paid for school

> Just say something like " I assume, of course, you accept state

> vaccine exemptions, as indicated in the law " or something.

> Find out if they accept any state money for anything - milk? lunches?

> Sheri

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> >OR do I just sneak the religious exemption in with the physical form

> >and hope for the best? Any other pre-school experiences would be

> >helpful. Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Hi! I am from NJ. I live in Newark where no one uses vaccine exemptions. The

school simply called the Board of Ed in the middle of registration to see if I

was compliant with the law. I registered my son in a preschool not private, a

charter school, and regular public school, it was always accepted.

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> Hello, I'm a mom to two un-vacinated boys in New Jersey. My oldest will start

pre-school this Sept. We are looking at schools now. My question is do I ask

up front if they accept religious exemptions? (or will this raise a red flag) I

understand that they have the right to deny entry since they are not state

funded. OR do I just sneak the religious exemption in with the physical form

and hope for the best? Any other pre-school experiences would be helpful.

Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Does NY ONLY accept medical exemptions or religious too? How hard is it to get each, or does it depend on where you live in NY?

[Guest guest]

it accepts religious but it is school board by school board and you have

to write why it is against your religious beliefs. Pretty

unconstitutional

Sheri

At 01:53 PM 3/15/2012, you wrote:

Does NY ONLY accept

medical exemptions or religious too? How hard is it to get each, or

does it depend on where you live in NY?

[Guest guest]

I hear NY school boards think they’re better than God b/c they will tell you if your religious exemption is religious or not. this is why I’m never, ever going to live in NY!!! Nita, homeschooling mompreneur to 8 kids and 2 online web stores! for Moms and kids, prenatal to tweens: http://www.kneehigh2agrasshopper.com A tiscuit, a tasket, what a lovely gift basket: http://www.nitasbaskets.com I have to walk early in the morning,before my brain figures out what I'm doing..._

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It's got to be better than WV as far as vax go....

[Guest guest]

There is an attorney in NY who will pretty much take care of the whole process

for parents, including any letters or representation. There is of course a fee,

but may be worth it if you don't want to deal with the hassle.

Her name is Finn (845)818-3690. I recently saw an article involving her

being harassed by the powers that be, but as far as I know, she is still

actively practicing.

Best of luck,

Elissa

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[Guest guest]

What I did was I called around to the preschools I was interested in and without giving my name or information simply asked if they accepted state vaccine exemptions. That way you can weed out who doesn't (if they are completely private) or who looks down on them which is a turn off for me.We were so fortunate that the one we found and love (and now attend) has no problem at all with exemptions.

[Guest guest]

That's a smart approach. Did anyone say no?

Winnie Re: Pre-School Vaccine QuestionVaccinations > What I did was I called around to the preschools I was > interested in and without giving my name or information simply > asked if they accepted state vaccine exemptions. That way you > can weed out who doesn't (if they are completely private) or > who looks down on them which is a turn off for me.> > We were so fortunate that the one we found and love (and now > attend) has no problem at all with exemptions.> >

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Thank you everyone for great advice and experiences. This is my oldest starting

school and I think I was just a little nevous about using the expemtpion for the

first time and not confident enough I would have all the answers. Even though I

am very educated on the subject. Turns out the school we are interested in is

state funded and has to accept the religious exemption. I stapled the exemption

to the registration form and he was accepted. Thanks for all the advise and

support.

[Guest guest]

Great! Now you know if the nurse calls to ask you questions about your religion, you don't have to answer them, right? I've never had it happen but just so you're not caught by surprise have an answer ready about meeting all legal obligations by signing the form.

But very good news. You must be so relieved.

Winnie Re: Pre-School Vaccine QuestionVaccinations > > Thank you everyone for great advice and experiences. This is my > oldest starting school and I think I was just a little nevous > about using the expemtpion for the first time and not confident > enough I would have all the answers. Even though I am very > educated on the subject. Turns out the school we are interested > in is state funded and has to accept the religious exemption. I > stapled the exemption to the registration form and he was > accepted. Thanks for all the advise and support. > >

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Yes, Finn was told to turn over her list of nonvaxing and late vaxing parents, a clear violation of attorney/client privacy. ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ From: holisticmama14 <Drdiamondfields@...> Vaccinations Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Pre-School Vaccine

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There is an attorney in NY who will pretty much take care of the whole process for parents, including any letters or representation. There is of course a fee, but may be worth it if you don't want to deal with the hassle.

Her name is Finn (845)818-3690. I recently saw an article involving her being harassed by the powers that be, but as far as I know, she is still actively practicing.

Best of luck,

Elissa

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