Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0264410X9500098L ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ From: maureen gradvohl <mrsvoltaire@...> "Vaccinations " <Vaccinations > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 1:46 PM Subject: rubella immunity .... from natural sources or from vaccine - which is better? Any links? Are there any cases in which the vaccine immunity would be better? I do not think so! Links? ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'm seeing an abstract without any conclusions. Am I missing something? From: maureen gradvohl <mrsvoltaire@...> "Vaccinations " <Vaccinations > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:48 PM Subject: Re: rubella immunity http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0264410X9500098L ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ From: maureen gradvohl <mrsvoltaire@...> "Vaccinations " <Vaccinations > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 1:46 PM Subject: rubella immunity .... from natural sources or from vaccine - which is better? Any links? Are there any cases in which the vaccine immunity would be better? I do not think so! Links? ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 no vaccine gives immunity ever - the inject a chronic case of the illness into you so you don't get the acute case. http://www.wellwithin1.com/rubella.htm is my webpage much in my Childhood Diseases class too. the only immunity is from having had the disease Sheri At 02:46 PM 3/13/2012, you wrote: .... from natural sources or from vaccine - which is better? Any links? Are there any cases in which the vaccine immunity would be better? I do not think so! Links? ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 antibodies are only ONE part of immunity and after vaccination do NOT mean immunity as whole immune system was not activated Sheri At 02:48 PM 3/13/2012, you wrote: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0264410X9500098L ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ From: maureen gradvohl <mrsvoltaire@...> " Vaccinations " <Vaccinations > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 1:46 PM Subject: rubella immunity .... from natural sources or from vaccine - which is better? Any links? Are there any cases in which the vaccine immunity would be better? I do not think so! Links? ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 read my pages on herd immunity which addresses whether vaccines give any immunity at all http://www.wellwithin1.com/herdimmunity.htm and this http://www.whale.to/a/herd.html excerpts " In October, 1972. a seminar on rubella was held at the Department of Pathology, University Department, Austin Hospital in Melbourne, Australia. Dr. Beverly , a medical virologist, gave overwhelming evidence against the effectiveness of the vaccine. So stunned was she with her investigations that it caused her, like a growing number of scientists, to question the whole area related to herd immunizations. Dr. described two trials: the first trial concerned army recruits who were selected because of their lack of immunity as determined by blood tests. These men were given Cendevax, an attenuated rubella virus that is supposed to protect. They were then sent to a camp which usually has an annual epidemic of rubella. This occurred three to four months after they were vaccinated, and 80% of the so-called immune recruits became infected with rubella virus. A further trial shortly after this took place at an institution for mentally retarded people with similar effects. Additional disturbing evidence was sent to us by a Melbourne GP who was in the United Kingdom at the time that Chief Health Officer Sir Henry Yellowlees, had released a press statement (February 26, 1976) informing doctors that, in spite of high vaccination figures, there had been no detectable reduction in the number of babies born with birth defects. " --Dr Archie Kalokerinos & Glen Dettman " Does Rubella Vaccination Protect?, " Australian Nurses Journal, reprinted in The Dangers of Immunisation p54 " The reason vaccinations are promoted with such intensity is to prevent people from realising that vaccines do not protect and also in the event of an outbreak or an epidemic the vaccinated are as much at risk of becoming infected as the unvaccinated. The truth can be kept hidden if people's vaccination status remains unknown and if everyone is vaccinated, making a comparison with unvaccinated people impossible. This is also the real reason for the relentless push to vaccinate as many children as possible. " -- Dr Buchwald (The Decline of Tuberculosis despite " Protective " Vaccination by Dr. Gerhard Buchwald M.D. p101) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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