Guest guest Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 I just looked up the college website. They claim that students cannot afford the vaccine. Is that the reason or is it a matter of refusal? They also claim the number to be 600. From what I could tell they were allowing exemptions for consciencious objectors. Vicki From: mom4sure23 <mom4sure23@...> Vaccinations Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Re: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica I live in Austin and I have not seen any media coverage on this. In fact, we were considering signing my son up for a class at ACC (he's still in high school) and I was surprised how often the meningitis vaccine was brought up as a requirement to take any classes. I was having my doubts that my exemption that we have used for the last 14 years was going to work. By the way, I believe this is a requirement that was passed by the Texas legislature as I believe all Texas colleges/universities require the meningitis vaccine. About a year ago my sister was telling me the story about a young woman from their area who was suffering from some bizarre health symptoms -- and it was concluded that something was eating away at her brain! She was a freshman in college. And it dawned on me -- the meningitis vaccine! Did that have something to do with this young woman's health problems -- what else would explain such a horrible thing! Margaret > > > >Whatever the reason I say go for it. If I had a dollar for > >everytime someone told me they HAD to immunize or they could not get > >their child into **fill in the blank** I would be rich. No one > >even knows and as a nation we are like sheep on this one. > > I always say to people - if that is what you think and we are being > forced into medical treatments, then you should be in the streets > protesting or find another country. People really don't have a clue > about vaccines or freedom and most don't want to know > Sheri > > > > >From: maureen gradvohl <mrsvoltaire@...> > >"Vaccinations " <Vaccinations > > >Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 7:19 PM > >Subject: Re: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because > >students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica > > > >Good for them! > > > >However either they do not know about exemptions or they are making > >some kind of political statement. > > > > > > > >From: Meryl Dorey <meryl@...> > >AVN List <AVN > > >Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:45 PM > >Subject: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because > >students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica > > > > > > > >Thousands of students refuse to attend college because of meningitis > >vaccinations > > > > > > > >Thousands of students refuse to attend college because of meningitis > >vaccinations > >Written by > >http://www.24medica.com/content/view/2798/2/ > >Saturday, 26 May 2012 > >Administrators at the Austin Community College (ACC) admit that some > >10,000 students have refused to enroll at ACC because of their > >vaccination requirements. Meanwhile, a Washington State rock band > >named The Refusers is storming Youtube with their latest hit "First > >do no harm". > > > >Vaccine refusal is a basic human right that has been often > >challenged by the pro-vaccine "authorities" from the local > >well-meaning pediatrician to the government officials all the way > >down to the school administrators. Even though no school or other > >agency can force anyone to take a vaccination, policies are written > >to give the distinct impression that the inoculations are > >compulsory. Any school administrator who says a student will be > >refused enrollment without a vaccine is lying. > > > >Enrollment at ACC has declined 15 percent since January, cancelling > >some 500 classes. When asked why, a huge number of the students are > >citing the institution's aggressive vaccination policy as their > >reason to drop out. A similar pattern of this anti vaccine revolt is > >being seen across the country. > > > >Queens, NY parents asked a judge to take down a city policy that > >keeps their un-vaccinated kids out of class if one of their > >schoolmates comes down with a communicable disease. They say this > >policy denies their kids the right to a free education because of > >their religious objections to vaccinations. One mother of two > >un-vaccinated children stated; "We'd rather rely on our natural > >immune system and our faith in God. This is about my children's rights." > > > >Of course, this is way too big of an issue for city officials so the > >lawsuits were passed on to Brooklyn Federal Court. Christian > >Scientists, Amish and other religious groups all over the United > >States have exemptions for children simply by citing religious > >objections. Other non-religious groups and individuals claim > >philosophical exemptions to refuse vaccines also claiming links > >between vaccination and neurological diseases like autism. > > > >Down Under, the New South Wales Supreme Court struck down the > >state's Health Care Complaints Commission (HCCC) when they wrongly > >issued a public warning against the anti-vaccination group, the > >Australian Vaccination Network (AVN). The HCCC warning stated that > >the AVN failed to disclose on its website that the group's purpose > >was to provide anti-vaccination information. > > > >Vaccinations have been a controversial subject for over 200 years. > >Statistics show that almost all reduction in infectious diseases > >occurred before widespread vaccines for those illnesses. The same > >reductions in disease also occurred in countries where there were no > >widespread vaccination programs of any kind, and in the same time > >period for diseases that never had vaccines introduced. > > > >The side effects of vaccinations are actually far more serious and > >widespread and affect far more people than vaccine manufacturers want to admit. > > > >Informed consent comes with the implied option to be able to refuse > >a medical treatment. If laws mandate vaccines and doctors still > >require the legal "consent form" (that holds them blameless for the > >poisons they are injecting) then, how is this informed consent? > > > >The tenets of informed consent has roots in 2,000 year-old medical > >ethics, and are now codified as law. Federal regulations require > >that doctors tell patients in advance the nature of the medical > >treatment they recommend, risks involved, whether or not there are > >alternative methods of treatment, and give the patient an > >opportunity to ask questions. > > > >Unfortunately, the proper level of informed consent for vaccines is > >never given. If it was, there would be far less vaccine injured > >children and adults out there. Instead, parents are bullied, > >browbeaten, pressured and even threatened into harmful vaccinations > >and not even given a right of refusal - all this outside of a > >knowledge of their legal rights. By law, if any medical official is > >pressuring you to vaccinate they have the legal obligation to inform > >you of all risks of treatment and the alternatives without you > >having to ask. When does that happen? > >Comments > >Search > >Only registered users can write comments! > >Powered by 24Medica > > > >Meryl Dorey,SpokespersonThe Australian Vaccination Network, > >Inc.Investigate before you vaccinateEditor,Living Wisdom > >MagazineFamily, Health, EnvironmentPO Box 177BANGALOW NSW > >2479AUSTRALIA<http://www.avn.org.au>http://www.avn.org.au<http://www.living-wisdom.com>http://www.living-wisdom.comPhone: > >02 6687 1699 FAX 02 6687 2032skype: ivmmagFreedom is not merely the > >opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the > >opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of > >all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over > >them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. - C. MillsThe > >authority of any governing institution must stop at its citizen's > >skin. - Gloria SteinemWe rely on the help and support of our members > >and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and without > >prejudice.Please consider helping us by joining the AVN as a member. > >Go to http://www.avn.org.au to become a member or donate to support > >our work.We also sell books, videos and DVDs on vaccination and > >other health issues. Go to http://shop.avn.org.au/ for more details. > >Meryl Dorey,SpokespersonThe Australian Vaccination Network, > >Inc.Investigate before you vaccinateEditor,Living Wisdom > >MagazineFamily, Health, EnvironmentPO Box 177BANGALOW NSW > >2479AUSTRALIA<http://www.avn.org.au>http://www.avn.org.auhttp://www.living-wisdom.comPhone: > >02 6687 1699 FAX 02 6687 2032skype: ivmmagFreedom is not merely the > >opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the > >opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of > >all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over > >them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. - C. MillsThe > >authority of any governing institution must stop at its citizen's > >skin. - Gloria SteinemWe rely on the help and support of our members > >and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and without > >prejudice.Please consider helping us by joining the AVN as a member. > >Go to http://www.avn.org.au to become a member or donate to support > >our work.We also sell books, videos and DVDs on vaccination and > >other health issues. Go to http://shop.avn.org.au/ for more details. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Check TX law here: (http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements/texas.aspx) Usually it's required only if you live on campus because of the supposed risk of living in close quarters, although an exemption should work there anyway. I can't imagine they'd require it for a high school student to take one class. Do they require it of instructors?? Visitors to check the school out? Maintenance crews? No. Winnie 500 classes cancelled at Uni because > > >students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica> > >> > >> > >> > >Thousands of students refuse to attend college because of > meningitis > > >vaccinations> > >> > >> > >> > >Thousands of students refuse to attend college because of > meningitis > > >vaccinations> > >Written by > > >http://www.24medica.com/content/view/2798/2/> > >Saturday, 26 May 2012> > >Administrators at the Austin Community College (ACC) admit > that some > > >10,000 students have refused to enroll at ACC because of > their > > >vaccination requirements. Meanwhile, a Washington State rock > band > > >named The Refusers is storming Youtube with their latest hit > "First > > >do no harm".> > >> > >Vaccine refusal is a basic human right that has been often > > >challenged by the pro-vaccine "authorities" from the local > > >well-meaning pediatrician to the government officials all the > way > > >down to the school administrators. Even though no school or > other > > >agency can force anyone to take a vaccination, policies are > written > > >to give the distinct impression that the inoculations are > > >compulsory. Any school administrator who says a student will > be > > >refused enrollment without a vaccine is lying.> > >> > >Enrollment at ACC has declined 15 percent since January, > cancelling > > >some 500 classes. When asked why, a huge number of the > students are > > >citing the institution's aggressive vaccination policy as > their > > >reason to drop out. A similar pattern of this anti vaccine > revolt is > > >being seen across the country.> > >> > >Queens, NY parents asked a judge to take down a city policy > that > > >keeps their un-vaccinated kids out of class if one of their > > >schoolmates comes down with a communicable disease. They say > this > > >policy denies their kids the right to a free education > because of > > >their religious objections to vaccinations. One mother of two > > >un-vaccinated children stated; "We'd rather rely on our > natural > > >immune system and our faith in God. This is about my > children's rights."> > >> > >Of course, this is way too big of an issue for city officials > so the > > >lawsuits were passed on to Brooklyn Federal Court. Christian > > >Scientists, Amish and other religious groups all over the > United > > >States have exemptions for children simply by citing > religious > > >objections. Other non-religious groups and individuals claim > > >philosophical exemptions to refuse vaccines also claiming > links > > >between vaccination and neurological diseases like autism.> > >> > >Down Under, the New South Wales Supreme Court struck down the > > >state's Health Care Complaints Commission (HCCC) when they > wrongly > > >issued a public warning against the anti-vaccination group, > the > > >Australian Vaccination Network (AVN). The HCCC warning stated > that > > >the AVN failed to disclose on its website that the group's > purpose > > >was to provide anti-vaccination information.> > >> > >Vaccinations have been a controversial subject for over 200 > years. > > >Statistics show that almost all reduction in infectious > diseases > > >occurred before widespread vaccines for those illnesses. The > same > > >reductions in disease also occurred in countries where there > were no > > >widespread vaccination programs of any kind, and in the same > time > > >period for diseases that never had vaccines introduced.> > >> > >The side effects of vaccinations are actually far more > serious and > > >widespread and affect far more people than vaccine > manufacturers want to admit.> > >> > >Informed consent comes with the implied option to be able to > refuse > > >a medical treatment. If laws mandate vaccines and doctors > still > > >require the legal "consent form" (that holds them blameless > for the > > >poisons they are injecting) then, how is this informed consent?> > >> > >The tenets of informed consent has roots in 2,000 year-old > medical > > >ethics, and are now codified as law. Federal regulations > require > > >that doctors tell patients in advance the nature of the > medical > > >treatment they recommend, risks involved, whether or not > there are > > >alternative methods of treatment, and give the patient an > > >opportunity to ask questions.> > >> > >Unfortunately, the proper level of informed consent for > vaccines is > > >never given. If it was, there would be far less vaccine > injured > > >children and adults out there. Instead, parents are bullied, > > >browbeaten, pressured and even threatened into harmful > vaccinations > > >and not even given a right of refusal - all this outside of a > > >knowledge of their legal rights. By law, if any medical > official is > > >pressuring you to vaccinate they have the legal obligation to > inform > > >you of all risks of treatment and the alternatives without > you > > >having to ask. When does that happen?> > >Comments> > >Search> > >Only registered users can write comments!> > >Powered by 24Medica> > >> > >Meryl Dorey,SpokespersonThe Australian Vaccination Network, > > >Inc.Investigate before you vaccinateEditor,Living Wisdom > > >MagazineFamily, Health, EnvironmentPO Box 177BANGALOW NSW > > > >2479AUSTRALIAhttp://www.avn.org.auhttp://www.living-wisdom.comPhone: > > >02 6687 1699 FAX 02 6687 2032skype: ivmmagFreedom is not > merely the > > >opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the > > >opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, > first of > > >all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue > over > > >them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. - C. > MillsThe > > >authority of any governing institution must stop at its > citizen's > > >skin. - Gloria SteinemWe rely on the help and support of our > members > > >and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and > without > > >prejudice.Please consider helping us by joining the AVN as a > member. > > >Go to http://www.avn.org.au to become a member or donate to > support > > >our work.We also sell books, videos and DVDs on vaccination > and > > >other health issues. Go to http://shop.avn.org.au/ for more > details.> >Meryl Dorey,SpokespersonThe Australian Vaccination > Network, > > >Inc.Investigate before you vaccinateEditor,Living Wisdom > > >MagazineFamily, Health, EnvironmentPO Box 177BANGALOW NSW > > > >2479AUSTRALIAhttp://www.avn.org.auhttp://www.living-wisdom.comPhone: > > >02 6687 1699 FAX 02 6687 2032skype: ivmmagFreedom is not > merely the > > >opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the > > >opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, > first of > > >all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue > over > > >them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. - C. > MillsThe > > >authority of any governing institution must stop at its > citizen's > > >skin. - Gloria SteinemWe rely on the help and support of our > members > > >and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and > without > > >prejudice.Please consider helping us by joining the AVN as a > member. > > >Go to http://www.avn.org.au to become a member or donate to > support > > >our work.We also sell books, videos and DVDs on vaccination > and > > >other health issues. Go to http://shop.avn.org.au/ for more > details.> >> > >> > >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Good point Winnie! From: "wharrison@..." <wharrison@...> Vaccinations Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Re: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica Check TX law here: (http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements/texas.aspx) Usually it's required only if you live on campus because of the supposed risk of living in close quarters, although an exemption should work there anyway. I can't imagine they'd require it for a high school student to take one class. Do they require it of instructors?? Visitors to check the school out? Maintenance crews? No. Winnie 500 classes cancelled at Uni because > > >students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica> > >> > >> > >> > >Thousands of students refuse to attend college because of > meningitis > > >vaccinations> > >> > >> > >> > >Thousands of students refuse to attend college because of > meningitis > > >vaccinations> > >Written by > > >http://www.24medica.com/content/view/2798/2/> > >Saturday, 26 May 2012> > >Administrators at the Austin Community College (ACC) admit > that some > > >10,000 students have refused to enroll at ACC because of > their > > >vaccination requirements. Meanwhile, a Washington State rock > band > > >named The Refusers is storming Youtube with their latest hit > "First > > >do no harm".> > >> > >Vaccine refusal is a basic human right that has been often > > >challenged by the pro-vaccine "authorities" from the local > > >well-meaning pediatrician to the government officials all the > way > > >down to the school administrators. Even though no school or > other > > >agency can force anyone to take a vaccination, policies are > written > > >to give the distinct impression that the inoculations are > > >compulsory. Any school administrator who says a student will > be > > >refused enrollment without a vaccine is lying.> > >> > >Enrollment at ACC has declined 15 percent since January, > cancelling > > >some 500 classes. When asked why, a huge number of the > students are > > >citing the institution's aggressive vaccination policy as > their > > >reason to drop out. A similar pattern of this anti vaccine > revolt is > > >being seen across the country.> > >> > >Queens, NY parents asked a judge to take down a city policy > that > > >keeps their un-vaccinated kids out of class if one of their > > >schoolmates comes down with a communicable disease. They say > this > > >policy denies their kids the right to a free education > because of > > >their religious objections to vaccinations. One mother of two > > >un-vaccinated children stated; "We'd rather rely on our > natural > > >immune system and our faith in God. This is about my > children's rights."> > >> > >Of course, this is way too big of an issue for city officials > so the > > >lawsuits were passed on to Brooklyn Federal Court. Christian > > >Scientists, Amish and other religious groups all over the > United > > >States have exemptions for children simply by citing > religious > > >objections. Other non-religious groups and individuals claim > > >philosophical exemptions to refuse vaccines also claiming > links > > >between vaccination and neurological diseases like autism.> > >> > >Down Under, the New South Wales Supreme Court struck down the > > >state's Health Care Complaints Commission (HCCC) when they > wrongly > > >issued a public warning against the anti-vaccination group, > the > > >Australian Vaccination Network (AVN). The HCCC warning stated > that > > >the AVN failed to disclose on its website that the group's > purpose > > >was to provide anti-vaccination information.> > >> > >Vaccinations have been a controversial subject for over 200 > years. > > >Statistics show that almost all reduction in infectious > diseases > > >occurred before widespread vaccines for those illnesses. The > same > > >reductions in disease also occurred in countries where there > were no > > >widespread vaccination programs of any kind, and in the same > time > > >period for diseases that never had vaccines introduced.> > >> > >The side effects of vaccinations are actually far more > serious and > > >widespread and affect far more people than vaccine > manufacturers want to admit.> > >> > >Informed consent comes with the implied option to be able to > refuse > > >a medical treatment. If laws mandate vaccines and doctors > still > > >require the legal "consent form" (that holds them blameless > for the > > >poisons they are injecting) then, how is this informed consent?> > >> > >The tenets of informed consent has roots in 2,000 year-old > medical > > >ethics, and are now codified as law. Federal regulations > require > > >that doctors tell patients in advance the nature of the > medical > > >treatment they recommend, risks involved, whether or not > there are > > >alternative methods of treatment, and give the patient an > > >opportunity to ask questions.> > >> > >Unfortunately, the proper level of informed consent for > vaccines is > > >never given. If it was, there would be far less vaccine > injured > > >children and adults out there. Instead, parents are bullied, > > >browbeaten, pressured and even threatened into harmful > vaccinations > > >and not even given a right of refusal - all this outside of a > > >knowledge of their legal rights. By law, if any medical > official is > > >pressuring you to vaccinate they have the legal obligation to > inform > > >you of all risks of treatment and the alternatives without > you > > >having to ask. When does that happen?> > >Comments> > >Search> > >Only registered users can write comments!> > >Powered by 24Medica> > >> > >Meryl Dorey,SpokespersonThe Australian Vaccination Network, > > >Inc.Investigate before you vaccinateEditor,Living Wisdom > > >MagazineFamily, Health, EnvironmentPO Box 177BANGALOW NSW > > > >2479AUSTRALIA http://www.avn.org.au http://www.living-wisdom.comPhone: > > >02 6687 1699 FAX 02 6687 2032skype: ivmmagFreedom is not > merely the > > >opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the > > >opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, > first of > > >all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue > over > > >them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. - C. > MillsThe > > >authority of any governing institution must stop at its > citizen's > > >skin. - Gloria SteinemWe rely on the help and support of our > members > > >and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and > without > > >prejudice.Please consider helping us by joining the AVN as a > member. > > >Go to http://www.avn.org.au to become a member or donate to > support > > >our work.We also sell books, videos and DVDs on vaccination > and > > >other health issues. Go to http://shop.avn.org.au/ for more > details.> >Meryl Dorey,SpokespersonThe Australian Vaccination > Network, > > >Inc.Investigate before you vaccinateEditor,Living Wisdom > > >MagazineFamily, Health, EnvironmentPO Box 177BANGALOW NSW > > > >2479AUSTRALIA http://www.avn.org.auhttp://www.living-wisdom.comPhone: > > >02 6687 1699 FAX 02 6687 2032skype: ivmmagFreedom is not > merely the > > >opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the > > >opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, > first of > > >all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue > over > > >them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. - C. > MillsThe > > >authority of any governing institution must stop at its > citizen's > > >skin. - Gloria SteinemWe rely on the help and support of our > members > > >and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and > without > > >prejudice.Please consider helping us by joining the AVN as a > member. > > >Go to http://www.avn.org.au to become a member or donate to > support > > >our work.We also sell books, videos and DVDs on vaccination > and > > >other health issues. Go to http://shop.avn.org.au/ for more > details.> >> > >> > >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Live there too and not a word has been said. Sad... Jenna Forbes"SuperMommy" From: mom4sure23 <mom4sure23@...> Vaccinations Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 8:21 AM Subject: Re: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica I live in Austin and I have not seen any media coverage on this. In fact, we were considering signing my son up for a class at ACC (he's still in high school) and I was surprised how often the meningitis vaccine was brought up as a requirement to take any classes. I was having my doubts that my exemption that we have used for the last 14 years was going to work. By the way, I believe this is a requirement that was passed by the Texas legislature as I believe all Texas colleges/universities require the meningitis vaccine. About a year ago my sister was telling me the story about a young woman from their area who was suffering from some bizarre health symptoms -- and it was concluded that something was eating away at her brain! She was a freshman in college. And it dawned on me -- the meningitis vaccine! Did that have something to do with this young woman's health problems -- what else would explain such a horrible thing! Margaret > > > >Whatever the reason I say go for it. If I had a dollar for > >everytime someone told me they HAD to immunize or they could not get > >their child into **fill in the blank** I would be rich. No one > >even knows and as a nation we are like sheep on this one. > > I always say to people - if that is what you think and we are being > forced into medical treatments, then you should be in the streets > protesting or find another country. People really don't have a clue > about vaccines or freedom and most don't want to know > Sheri > > > > >From: maureen gradvohl <mrsvoltaire@...> > >"Vaccinations " <Vaccinations > > >Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 7:19 PM > >Subject: Re: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because > >students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica > > > >Good for them! > > > >However either they do not know about exemptions or they are making > >some kind of political statement. > > > > > > > >From: Meryl Dorey <meryl@...> > >AVN List <AVN > > >Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:45 PM > >Subject: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because > >students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica > > > > > > > >Thousands of students refuse to attend college because of meningitis > >vaccinations > > > > > > > >Thousands of students refuse to attend college because of meningitis > >vaccinations > >Written by > >http://www.24medica.com/content/view/2798/2/ > >Saturday, 26 May 2012 > >Administrators at the Austin Community College (ACC) admit that some > >10,000 students have refused to enroll at ACC because of their > >vaccination requirements. Meanwhile, a Washington State rock band > >named The Refusers is storming Youtube with their latest hit "First > >do no harm". > > > >Vaccine refusal is a basic human right that has been often > >challenged by the pro-vaccine "authorities" from the local > >well-meaning pediatrician to the government officials all the way > >down to the school administrators. Even though no school or other > >agency can force anyone to take a vaccination, policies are written > >to give the distinct impression that the inoculations are > >compulsory. Any school administrator who says a student will be > >refused enrollment without a vaccine is lying. > > > >Enrollment at ACC has declined 15 percent since January, cancelling > >some 500 classes. When asked why, a huge number of the students are > >citing the institution's aggressive vaccination policy as their > >reason to drop out. A similar pattern of this anti vaccine revolt is > >being seen across the country. > > > >Queens, NY parents asked a judge to take down a city policy that > >keeps their un-vaccinated kids out of class if one of their > >schoolmates comes down with a communicable disease. They say this > >policy denies their kids the right to a free education because of > >their religious objections to vaccinations. One mother of two > >un-vaccinated children stated; "We'd rather rely on our natural > >immune system and our faith in God. This is about my children's rights." > > > >Of course, this is way too big of an issue for city officials so the > >lawsuits were passed on to Brooklyn Federal Court. Christian > >Scientists, Amish and other religious groups all over the United > >States have exemptions for children simply by citing religious > >objections. Other non-religious groups and individuals claim > >philosophical exemptions to refuse vaccines also claiming links > >between vaccination and neurological diseases like autism. > > > >Down Under, the New South Wales Supreme Court struck down the > >state's Health Care Complaints Commission (HCCC) when they wrongly > >issued a public warning against the anti-vaccination group, the > >Australian Vaccination Network (AVN). The HCCC warning stated that > >the AVN failed to disclose on its website that the group's purpose > >was to provide anti-vaccination information. > > > >Vaccinations have been a controversial subject for over 200 years. > >Statistics show that almost all reduction in infectious diseases > >occurred before widespread vaccines for those illnesses. The same > >reductions in disease also occurred in countries where there were no > >widespread vaccination programs of any kind, and in the same time > >period for diseases that never had vaccines introduced. > > > >The side effects of vaccinations are actually far more serious and > >widespread and affect far more people than vaccine manufacturers want to admit. > > > >Informed consent comes with the implied option to be able to refuse > >a medical treatment. If laws mandate vaccines and doctors still > >require the legal "consent form" (that holds them blameless for the > >poisons they are injecting) then, how is this informed consent? > > > >The tenets of informed consent has roots in 2,000 year-old medical > >ethics, and are now codified as law. Federal regulations require > >that doctors tell patients in advance the nature of the medical > >treatment they recommend, risks involved, whether or not there are > >alternative methods of treatment, and give the patient an > >opportunity to ask questions. > > > >Unfortunately, the proper level of informed consent for vaccines is > >never given. If it was, there would be far less vaccine injured > >children and adults out there. Instead, parents are bullied, > >browbeaten, pressured and even threatened into harmful vaccinations > >and not even given a right of refusal - all this outside of a > >knowledge of their legal rights. By law, if any medical official is > >pressuring you to vaccinate they have the legal obligation to inform > >you of all risks of treatment and the alternatives without you > >having to ask. When does that happen? > >Comments > >Search > >Only registered users can write comments! > >Powered by 24Medica > > > >Meryl Dorey,SpokespersonThe Australian Vaccination Network, > >Inc.Investigate before you vaccinateEditor,Living Wisdom > >MagazineFamily, Health, EnvironmentPO Box 177BANGALOW NSW > >2479AUSTRALIA<http://www.avn.org.au>http://www.avn.org.au<http://www.living-wisdom.com>http://www.living-wisdom.comPhone: > >02 6687 1699 FAX 02 6687 2032skype: ivmmagFreedom is not merely the > >opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the > >opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of > >all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over > >them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. - C. MillsThe > >authority of any governing institution must stop at its citizen's > >skin. - Gloria SteinemWe rely on the help and support of our members > >and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and without > >prejudice.Please consider helping us by joining the AVN as a member. > >Go to http://www.avn.org.au to become a member or donate to support > >our work.We also sell books, videos and DVDs on vaccination and > >other health issues. Go to http://shop.avn.org.au/ for more details. > >Meryl Dorey,SpokespersonThe Australian Vaccination Network, > >Inc.Investigate before you vaccinateEditor,Living Wisdom > >MagazineFamily, Health, EnvironmentPO Box 177BANGALOW NSW > >2479AUSTRALIA<http://www.avn.org.au>http://www.avn.org.auhttp://www.living-wisdom.comPhone: > >02 6687 1699 FAX 02 6687 2032skype: ivmmagFreedom is not merely the > >opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the > >opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of > >all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over > >them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. - C. MillsThe > >authority of any governing institution must stop at its citizen's > >skin. - Gloria SteinemWe rely on the help and support of our members > >and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and without > >prejudice.Please consider helping us by joining the AVN as a member. > >Go to http://www.avn.org.au to become a member or donate to support > >our work.We also sell books, videos and DVDs on vaccination and > >other health issues. Go to http://shop.avn.org.au/ for more details. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 If my memory serves me correctly there were plenty of 'low cost' clinics for the shot. There was also some hub bub on the news about a fear of shortages. Jenna Forbes"SuperMommy" From: Vicki Geraci <vicki.geraci@...> To: "Vaccinations " <Vaccinations > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 10:44 AM Subject: Re: Re: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica I just looked up the college website. They claim that students cannot afford the vaccine. Is that the reason or is it a matter of refusal? They also claim the number to be 600. From what I could tell they were allowing exemptions for consciencious objectors. Vicki From: mom4sure23 <mom4sure23@...> Vaccinations Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Re: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica I live in Austin and I have not seen any media coverage on this. In fact, we were considering signing my son up for a class at ACC (he's still in high school) and I was surprised how often the meningitis vaccine was brought up as a requirement to take any classes. I was having my doubts that my exemption that we have used for the last 14 years was going to work. By the way, I believe this is a requirement that was passed by the Texas legislature as I believe all Texas colleges/universities require the meningitis vaccine. About a year ago my sister was telling me the story about a young woman from their area who was suffering from some bizarre health symptoms -- and it was concluded that something was eating away at her brain! She was a freshman in college. And it dawned on me -- the meningitis vaccine! Did that have something to do with this young woman's health problems -- what else would explain such a horrible thing! Margaret > > > >Whatever the reason I say go for it. If I had a dollar for > >everytime someone told me they HAD to immunize or they could not get > >their child into **fill in the blank** I would be rich. No one > >even knows and as a nation we are like sheep on this one. > > I always say to people - if that is what you think and we are being > forced into medical treatments, then you should be in the streets > protesting or find another country. People really don't have a clue > about vaccines or freedom and most don't want to know > Sheri > > > > >From: maureen gradvohl <mrsvoltaire@...> > >"Vaccinations " <Vaccinations > > >Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 7:19 PM > >Subject: Re: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because > >students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica > > > >Good for them! > > > >However either they do not know about exemptions or they are making > >some kind of political statement. > > > > > > > >From: Meryl Dorey <meryl@...> > >AVN List <AVN > > >Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:45 PM > >Subject: 500 classes cancelled at Uni because > >students refuse vaccination and AVN mentioned in 24Medica > > > > > > > >Thousands of students refuse to attend college because of meningitis > >vaccinations > > > > > > > >Thousands of students refuse to attend college because of meningitis > >vaccinations > >Written by > >http://www.24medica.com/content/view/2798/2/ > >Saturday, 26 May 2012 > >Administrators at the Austin Community College (ACC) admit that some > >10,000 students have refused to enroll at ACC because of their > >vaccination requirements. Meanwhile, a Washington State rock band > >named The Refusers is storming Youtube with their latest hit "First > >do no harm". > > > >Vaccine refusal is a basic human right that has been often > >challenged by the pro-vaccine "authorities" from the local > >well-meaning pediatrician to the government officials all the way > >down to the school administrators. Even though no school or other > >agency can force anyone to take a vaccination, policies are written > >to give the distinct impression that the inoculations are > >compulsory. Any school administrator who says a student will be > >refused enrollment without a vaccine is lying. > > > >Enrollment at ACC has declined 15 percent since January, cancelling > >some 500 classes. When asked why, a huge number of the students are > >citing the institution's aggressive vaccination policy as their > >reason to drop out. A similar pattern of this anti vaccine revolt is > >being seen across the country. > > > >Queens, NY parents asked a judge to take down a city policy that > >keeps their un-vaccinated kids out of class if one of their > >schoolmates comes down with a communicable disease. They say this > >policy denies their kids the right to a free education because of > >their religious objections to vaccinations. One mother of two > >un-vaccinated children stated; "We'd rather rely on our natural > >immune system and our faith in God. This is about my children's rights." > > > >Of course, this is way too big of an issue for city officials so the > >lawsuits were passed on to Brooklyn Federal Court. Christian > >Scientists, Amish and other religious groups all over the United > >States have exemptions for children simply by citing religious > >objections. Other non-religious groups and individuals claim > >philosophical exemptions to refuse vaccines also claiming links > >between vaccination and neurological diseases like autism. > > > >Down Under, the New South Wales Supreme Court struck down the > >state's Health Care Complaints Commission (HCCC) when they wrongly > >issued a public warning against the anti-vaccination group, the > >Australian Vaccination Network (AVN). The HCCC warning stated that > >the AVN failed to disclose on its website that the group's purpose > >was to provide anti-vaccination information. > > > >Vaccinations have been a controversial subject for over 200 years. > >Statistics show that almost all reduction in infectious diseases > >occurred before widespread vaccines for those illnesses. The same > >reductions in disease also occurred in countries where there were no > >widespread vaccination programs of any kind, and in the same time > >period for diseases that never had vaccines introduced. > > > >The side effects of vaccinations are actually far more serious and > >widespread and affect far more people than vaccine manufacturers want to admit. > > > >Informed consent comes with the implied option to be able to refuse > >a medical treatment. If laws mandate vaccines and doctors still > >require the legal "consent form" (that holds them blameless for the > >poisons they are injecting) then, how is this informed consent? > > > >The tenets of informed consent has roots in 2,000 year-old medical > >ethics, and are now codified as law. Federal regulations require > >that doctors tell patients in advance the nature of the medical > >treatment they recommend, risks involved, whether or not there are > >alternative methods of treatment, and give the patient an > >opportunity to ask questions. > > > >Unfortunately, the proper level of informed consent for vaccines is > >never given. If it was, there would be far less vaccine injured > >children and adults out there. Instead, parents are bullied, > >browbeaten, pressured and even threatened into harmful vaccinations > >and not even given a right of refusal - all this outside of a > >knowledge of their legal rights. By law, if any medical official is > >pressuring you to vaccinate they have the legal obligation to inform > >you of all risks of treatment and the alternatives without you > >having to ask. When does that happen? > >Comments > >Search > >Only registered users can write comments! > >Powered by 24Medica > > > >Meryl Dorey,SpokespersonThe Australian Vaccination Network, > >Inc.Investigate before you vaccinateEditor,Living Wisdom > >MagazineFamily, Health, EnvironmentPO Box 177BANGALOW NSW > >2479AUSTRALIA<http://www.avn.org.au>http://www.avn.org.au<http://www.living-wisdom.com>http://www.living-wisdom.comPhone: > >02 6687 1699 FAX 02 6687 2032skype: ivmmagFreedom is not merely the > >opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the > >opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of > >all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over > >them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. - C. MillsThe > >authority of any governing institution must stop at its citizen's > >skin. - Gloria SteinemWe rely on the help and support of our members > >and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and without > >prejudice.Please consider helping us by joining the AVN as a member. > >Go to http://www.avn.org.au to become a member or donate to support > >our work.We also sell books, videos and DVDs on vaccination and > >other health issues. Go to http://shop.avn.org.au/ for more details. > >Meryl Dorey,SpokespersonThe Australian Vaccination Network, > >Inc.Investigate before you vaccinateEditor,Living Wisdom > >MagazineFamily, Health, EnvironmentPO Box 177BANGALOW NSW > >2479AUSTRALIA<http://www.avn.org.au>http://www.avn.org.auhttp://www.living-wisdom.comPhone: > >02 6687 1699 FAX 02 6687 2032skype: ivmmagFreedom is not merely the > >opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the > >opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of > >all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over > >them -- and then, the opportunity to choose. - C. MillsThe > >authority of any governing institution must stop at its citizen's > >skin. - Gloria SteinemWe rely on the help and support of our members > >and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and without > >prejudice.Please consider helping us by joining the AVN as a member. > >Go to http://www.avn.org.au to become a member or donate to support > >our work.We also sell books, videos and DVDs on vaccination and > >other health issues. Go to http://shop.avn.org.au/ for more details. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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