RE: HEALTH DEPT. RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION

June 13, 2012

I used to think it was the Amish. But there was a case of a measles out break a

few years back, and a family did vaccinate against them then....

Carlena

HEALTH DEPT. RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION

I'm not sure what state you are in but has everyone already forgotten the

religious exemption? She should be able to say her reason is not only for

religious exemption but also if her child was injured or she feels he would be

further injured she should contact a pro-choice doctor and get him to sign

something saying that the child's immune system cannot handle any more vaccines.

AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION, WHAT RELIGION IS IT THAT DOES

NOT VACCINATE? DOES ANYONE KNOW? I realize that God would not want us to put

this garbage in our bodies, but are there any specific religions? If the

Prosecutor asks why she got the first round she could say, she just joined such

and such religion and find a pastor to testify.

I would also threaten a civil rights/constitutional rights federal lawsuit which

you can file for free in Federal Court if you don't have income. The

constitutional amendments I would claim would be the 13th which they are

prohibiting your right to be free from involun

June 13, 2012

My daughter has a medical exemption, it has to be reevaluated and updated EVERY year. Like next year, she just may be able to take injecting dangerous chemicals in her blood stream??? But, happily the school nurse shared with me that about 10 percent of student body was not current on vaccinations- she was feeling frustrated as she was to chase them all down and make sure they all had exemptions. And then her next breath she wanted to know if she could give my child Tylenol...

From:

Kelloggs263@... <Kelloggs263@...>;

To:

<Vaccinations >;

Subject:

Re: HEALTH DEPT. RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION

Sent:

Wed, Jun 13, 2012 2:37:10 PM

Yes, and they make it very difficult to get a medical one!

June 13, 2012

I have been listening to the dialog. I have been embroiled in a difficult vaccine confrontation for some time now. The legal advice I have received is that a religious exemption is protected by the First Amendment and therefore is higher authority than the state's interest. The catch seems to be that all discussion should defend the religious exemption, not necessarily why or what we believe, but that it is based on your beliefs, not any church doctrine. Do not get into any discussions about the safety/lack of safety of immunizations. That is irrelevant in court. The is no higher protection in America than the First Amendment. Vicki From: Katrina <paralegalactivist@...> vaccinations Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:07 AM Subject: Re: HEALTH DEPT. RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION

Greetings!

She,doesn't have to be part of an organized religion to claim a religious exemption and we do not have to understand her personal religios belief. It's not for anyone to judge. It can only make sense to her and she doesn't have give her religion a name.

A person can be part of an organized religion and have different religious beliefs as crazy as it may sound.

Religious exemptions in my opinion are the safest exemptions. Both of my children are exempt from their pediatricians administering to them and my school aged daughter is exempt from school because of our religious beliefs. We're in NY and I believe she's in NY as well.

It is very important to research this topic and be very informed because the system will try you. I know very well because I've been tried several times but I stood my ground and I'm very tenacious when it comes to my rights and I implore others to be the same way. We are living in a doggy dog world.

If I can be of any assistance to the group let me know. EACH ONE TEACH ONE. I have no problem sharing the knowledge.

Katrina

------------------------------

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:23 AM EDT free.born39 wrote:

>I'm not sure what state you are in but has everyone already forgotten the religious exemption? She should be able to say her reason is not only for religious exemption but also if her child was injured or she feels he would be further injured she should contact a pro-choice doctor and get him to sign something saying that the child's immune system cannot handle any more vaccines.

>

>AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION, WHAT RELIGION IS IT THAT DOES NOT VACCINATE? DOES ANYONE KNOW? I realize that God would not want us to put this garbage in our bodies, but are there any specific religions? If the Prosecutor asks why she got the first round she could say, she just joined such and such religion and find a pastor to testify.

>

>I would also threaten a civil rights/constitutional rights federal lawsuit which you can file for free in Federal Court if you don't have income. The constitutional amendments I would claim would be the 13th which they are prohibiting your right to be free from involuntary servitude and also the religious exemption.

>

June 13, 2012

We had a religious exemption in NY, the sole one granted in our school district

of over 3400 families. You MUST have personal religious beliefs that are sincere

and genuinely held and the district is allowed to grill you on how sincere and

how deeply held those religious beliefs are and they DO. You do NOT have to

belong to any organized religion to have personal religious beliefs. You do have

to be able to describe exactly what your religious beliefs are and how they go

against the specific vaccines in question. Your beliefs cannot be moral,

philosophical, political or medical in nature, they must be religious. HTH -

Arlynn, not in NY any more

June 13, 2012

Vicki,

You are right. We have to focus on our religious beliefs and stand firm.

Our rights protected by the First Amendment supercedes any state or local

authority.

We have to fight back with knowledge.

Katrina

------------------------------

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 2:23 PM EDT Vicki Geraci wrote:

>I have been listening to the dialog. I have been embroiled in a difficult

vaccine confrontation for some time now. The legali advice I have received is

that a religious exemption is protected by the First Amendment and therefore is

higher authority than the state's interest. The catch seems to be that all

discussion should defend the religious exemption, not necessarily why or what we

believe, but that it is based on your beliefs, not any church doctrine. Do not

get into any discussions about the safety/lack of safety of immunizations. That

is irrelevant in court. The is no higher protection in America than the First

Amendment.

>Vicki

>

>________________________________

> From: Katrina <paralegalactivist@...>

>vaccinations

>Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:07 AM

>Subject: Re: HEALTH DEPT. RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION

>

>Greetings!

>

>She,doesn't have to be part of an organized religion to claim a religious

exemption and we do not have to understand her personal religios belief. It's

not for anyone to judge. It can only make sense to her and she doesn't have give

her religion a name.

>

>A person can be part of an organized religion and have different religious

beliefs as crazy as it may sound.

>

>Religious exemptions in my opinion are the safest exemptions. Both of my

children are exempt from their pediatricians administering to them and my school

aged daughter is exempt from school because of our religious beliefs. We're in

NY and I believe she's in NY as well.

>

>It is very important to research this topic and be very informed because the

system will try you. I know very well because I've been tried several times but

I stood my ground and I'm very tenacious when it comes to my rights and I

implore others to be the same way. We are living in a doggy dog world.

>

>If I can be of any assistance to the group let me know. EACH ONE TEACH ONE. I

have no problem sharing the knowledge.

>

>Katrina

>

>------------------------------

>On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:23 AM EDT free.born39 wrote:

>

>>I'm not sure what state you are in but has everyone already forgotten the

religious exemption? She should be able to say her reason is not only for

religious exemption but also if her child was injured or she feels he would be

further injured she should contact a pro-choice doctor and get him to sign

something saying that the child's immune system cannot handle any more vaccines.

>>

>>AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION, WHAT RELIGION IS IT THAT DOES

NOT VACCINATE? DOES ANYONE KNOW? I realize that God would not want us to put

this garbage in our bodies, but are there any specific religions? If the

Prosecutor asks why she got the first round she could say, she just joined such

and such religion and find a pastor to testify.

>>

>>I would also threaten a civil rights/constitutional rights federal lawsuit

which you can file for free in Federal Court if you don't have income. The

constitutional amendments I would claim would be the 13th which they are

prohibiting your right to be free from involuntary servitude and also the

religious exemption.

>>

>

June 13, 2012