Re: tetanus vaccine for my son

June 14, 2012

I amputated the tip of my left ring finger with a carving knife back in

February. I cannot imagine going thru what I just went through but with my

child. So hugs mama! I wanted to add that I used pure, neat Lavender Essential

Oil on my bandage dressing every day and it healed in 3 days or so. The Lavender

has antiviral properties as well as a whole host of other good things for wound

care and it makes the skin heal quicker. I never even went to the emergency

room, took care of it myself. I wouldn't suggest doing that with a 2yo, but in

the meantime, you are changing the dressing right? I'd use the Lavender on the

pads that touch the wounds every single day. I used nothing else. HTH - Arlynn

June 14, 2012

What kind of a door? A barn door that horses which might or might not have tetanus might be rubbing on? Seriously, a door should not have tetanus on it.

Anyway, it is too late to give a vaccine for it. You made that decision when your mind was clear of panic and emotion. In fact, it's dangerous to give it for the reasons Sheri mentioned, and also I have been told that one should never get the vaccine at the time of injury because one is MORE likely to get tetanus. I don't know why that would be--maybe because your immune system now has to focus on healing from the vaccine rather than on the actual injury?

My son fell off of his bike a couple of years ago and had a gash on his stomach that required stitches. He fell on our road where people actually did walk horses. I put hydrogen peroxide on it and didn't do much else for first aid. He's fine.

It's natural to be nervous when faced with these situations, but a tetanus shot won't work to prevent tetanus anyway, so you have done all you can. I'd be more concerned about the finger reattachment and that sounds as if it went well, no?

Winnie tetanus vaccine for my sonVaccinations > Two days ago my 2 1/2 yr old son amputated the top of his right > ring finger in a door and lost the entire finger nail. They > reattached the finger tip and it didn't hit the bone. We have > not vaccinated him and really don't want to but are a little > nervous about this and don't want to make the wrong decision. > What are the chances of him having it and dying? Are there signs > to see to wait for and then get it or is it too late? Any other > statistics that can help us to decide? Thanks, Brittany > >

June 14, 2012

I was told by my brother-in-law that the bacteria that causes tetanus (lockjaw)

is only found on rusty nails that have been urinated on by animals. A farmer

told me that this was a danger when working on fences. I have never done any

research to confirm this, but it implies that a certain set of particulars have

to exist for there to be any danger.

My son recently stepped on a tack that entered his foot completely. We treated

it with ledum.

Margaret

>

> Two days ago my 2 1/2 yr old son amputated the top of his right ring finger in

a door and lost the entire finger nail. They reattached the finger tip and it

didn't hit the bone. We have not vaccinated him and really don't want to but are

a little nervous about this and don't want to make the wrong decision. What are

the chances of him having it and dying? Are there signs to see to wait for and

then get it or is it too late? Any other statistics that can help us to decide?

Thanks, Brittany

>

June 14, 2012

this is not true - it can be found on anything with contact with the

spores - rusty nails got the reputation but only if they have been lying

out in ground contaminated with manure that has tetanus spores - it is

manure, NOT urine.

Your BIL doesn't really know the facts

Sheri

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I was told by my brother-in-law that the bacteria that causes tetanus

(lockjaw) is only found on rusty nails that have been urinated on by

animals. A farmer told me that this was a danger when working on fences.

I have never done any research to confirm this, but it implies that a

certain set of particulars have to exist for there to be any danger.

My son recently stepped on a tack that entered his foot completely. We

treated it with ledum.

Margaret

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June 14, 2012

Why would you vax him? even if they worked, it would not work that fast. The immune system takes time to get in gear. Why bother to start poisoning him when he’s already dealing with a finger?? Believe me, his immune system is plenty busy. He doesn’t need insult to injury,. Nita, homeschooling mompreneur to 8 kids and an online store! Care packages, holiday baskets, relaxation baskets: http://www.nitasbaskets.com I have to walk early in the morning,before my brain figures out what I'm doing... From:

June 15, 2012

I appreciate the clarification and it certainly makes more sense that it would

be manure. However, my main point still holds -- the real danger is associated

with farming activities, eg., building a fence where nails fall on the ground

and farm animals go poo. Smashing a finger in a door poses no danger.

I stated quite clearly that I had not done research on this and the story was

actually told from my nieces -- let's don't get so uptight.

Margaret

>

> this is not true - it can be found on anything with contact with the

> spores - rusty nails got the reputation but only if they have been

> lying out in ground contaminated with manure that has tetanus spores

> - it is manure, NOT urine.

>

> Your BIL doesn't really know the facts

> Sheri

>

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> >

> >I was told by my brother-in-law that the bacteria that causes

> >tetanus (lockjaw) is only found on rusty nails that have been

> >urinated on by animals. A farmer told me that this was a danger when

> >working on fences. I have never done any research to confirm this,

> >but it implies that a certain set of particulars have to exist for

> >there to be any danger.

> >

> >My son recently stepped on a tack that entered his foot completely.

> >We treated it with ledum.

> >

> >Margaret

>

> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

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June 15, 2012

At 11:32 AM 6/15/2012, you wrote:

I appreciate the clarification

and it certainly makes more sense that it would be manure. However, my

main point still holds -- the real danger is associated with farming

activities, eg., building a fence where nails fall on the ground and farm

animals go poo. Smashing a finger in a door poses no danger.

I stated quite clearly that I had not done research on this and the story

was actually told from my nieces -- let's don't get so

uptight.

Hi Margaret - its really hard to tell tone in email. I was not/am

not uptight.

Yes, mostly in farming areas. Smashing a finger in a door, does not

present a danger, agreed.

There are so many myths about tetanus out there and it is something I am

writing about a lot. Also a google search will tell someone about

tetanus and where found.

Thanks

Sheri

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Homeopath

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June 16, 2012

Thanks for sharing the links and information, Brittany. Good information.

>

> Hi Brittany,

>

> I responded to Rhian... the lady who's son was bit by a raccoon my story of my

scare with tetanus with my 16 month old son and a rusty farm rake just a few

weeks ago so this research is fresh in my mind:

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18425960

>

> Can be read that higher doses to account for body weight would have cured it

completely in the larger subjects like Dr Levy says in his book, curing the

incurable:

>

> http://www.scribd.com/doc/36111224/24/Tetanus-Curable-and-Preventable

>

> So even if your child did have full blown tetanus with cramping and all, high

enough doses of vitamin C would cure, though he'd have to have it intravenously

to have 100% chance of recovery, but even orally it's 80% if you waited for

cramping to start which would be in 2-3 days. If the Vitamin C was present in

his system before exposure, even if exposed, he'd never get tetanus!!

>

> So everyone, eat your orange a day!!!

>

> I recommend that all of us have some Lypsospheric vitamin C on hand at all

times in case of emergency:

>

> http://www.livonlabs.com/

>

> Best price online:

> http://store.thegreenpharmacy.com/lypo-spheric-vitamin-c-p133.aspx

>

> This is in accordance with Dr Blalocks recommendation that the vitamin C not

be in the form of ascorbic acid, but since ascorbic acid is all that I had, I

gave him the vit C that I had and risked the diarrhea until I got the other

kind for a longer term treatment. He never got diarreah, but did get a nasty

diaper rash from the acidity, but better diaper rash than tetanus ;-) Also as a

side benefit the diaper rash helped him to potty train early since he was bare

butt for most of 2 weeks when awake :-)

>

> So, just to be safe I'd start him on the vitamin C that you have at home ASAP.

I did 7,000 mg per day for 3 days, and gave him 2000 per day of the lipospheric

when it arrived.

>

> Also Homeopathy Ledum Palustre would also cure tetanus, so I had him on that

too.

>

> And cheer up, Brittany he'll be fine :-)

>

> >

> > tetanus vaccine for my son

> > Vaccinations

> >

> > > Two days ago my 2 1/2 yr old son amputated the top of his right

> > > ring finger in a door and lost the entire finger nail. They

> > > reattached the finger tip and it didn't hit the bone. We have

> > > not vaccinated him and really don't want to but are a little

> > > nervous about this and don't want to make the wrong decision.

> > > What are the chances of him having it and dying? Are there signs

> > > to see to wait for and then get it or is it too late? Any other

> > > statistics that can help us to decide? Thanks, Brittany

> > >

> >

>

June 16, 2012

Hi Sheri -

Yes, it is hard to tell tone in email. Thanks for the response.

Margaret

> >I appreciate the clarification and it certainly makes more sense

> >that it would be manure. However, my main point still holds -- the

> >real danger is associated with farming activities, eg., building a

> >fence where nails fall on the ground and farm animals go poo.

> >Smashing a finger in a door poses no danger.

> >

> >I stated quite clearly that I had not done research on this and the

> >story was actually told from my nieces -- let's don't get so uptight.

>

> Hi Margaret - its really hard to tell tone in email. I was not/am not

uptight.

> Yes, mostly in farming areas. Smashing a finger in a door, does not

> present a danger, agreed.

>

> There are so many myths about tetanus out there and it is something I

> am writing about a lot. Also a google search will tell someone about

> tetanus and where found.

>

> Thanks

> Sheri

> listowner

>

> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network

> Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy

> http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com

> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email

> courses - next classes start June 1

>

June 16, 2012

Thank you so much everyone for your advice! I forgot about Vit C helping which I

remember reading somewhere else! That's a big relief! We haven't vaccinated him

thankfully and I'm really pushing my husband to not do so even for future

accidents. Our holistic doc helped my husband to not worry so much by telling

him he is more likely to get struck by lighting twice then get tetanus! So now

we are praying that everything heals ok including the nail coming back so we

don't have to do surgery since he was already sedated to put the stitches in

which freaked me out since I have no idea what's in that but had no choice

because there was no way he was going to stay still! Please send prayers and

good vibes our way!