Re: it's been a terrible few days

September 27, 2011

Thanks Aandraya. I did ask to join the WI Lyme group... there are so many Lyme groups now, I didn't know which was good and which was not.\From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 6:44:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

Oh the herxes do pass! Sometimes it takes quite a while. And spiders absolutely do carry most of the same infections that ticks do plus some others. The antibiotic treatment does pay off, my doctor has treated thousands and people do recover, with chronic Lyme and cos. it's 3-5 years. , you should join the WI Lyme group, many are not from WI(I'm not) and you would get a lot out of it and also could contribute a lot as you do so much on this group. I really get a lot from your posts. Mike, the moderator, is outstanding, no wonder it's the most active group of all 50 states. Most on that group have Bartonella and Babesia, I haven't encountered anyone yet with the mites but I've told them my horror story. Many do have the crawling sensations, intense itching, and skin lesions. Even if you don't want to post you'd get tons of info from people treating with all different modalities.Aandraya On Sep 26, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I wanted to add that my husband got one of those strange bites a week ago, about a week after I got a bite. It looks just like mine. I sent pictures of the bite to my LLMD who felt it was a spider bite. We've had problems with spiders since the whole mite infestation, but most are kept out of the house because we sealed off all cracks and put DE on our decks downstairs. I still wonder what those spiders are transmitting. When our mite infestation happened we also had an infestation of spiders at the same time. They were very tiny and in the hundreds. It is unknown as to whether or not spiders can carry mites... they may be able to. Or they might be able to carry infections too.I hope the herxing passes. I've had one of the intense headaches for the last 3-4 days. Awful. Aches and pains everywhere.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:22:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

The herxing does pass, I think it takes much longer because we are dealing with highly virulent deeply seeded infections.On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one. I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2.On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my

landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body.

does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

Do

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September 28, 2011

IÂ´m impressed by your attitude! Keep going!Cecilia

From: Marilyn Bentley <colly_miller@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I guess thats what i have, but i am doing a lot better. Got me a new blow up mattress, lol. Enrolled in college today. Not gonna let this get me down, i have a life to live.>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted

bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good

luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the

dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes

crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

September 28, 2011

Aandraya,What is the exact name of the WI Lyme Group? I found the MI Lyme Group and confused the two... but realized later it is not the same group. I couldn't find the WI group in the list. Is it called something else?From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 6:44:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

Oh the herxes do pass! Sometimes it takes quite a while. And spiders absolutely do carry most of the same infections that ticks do plus some others. The antibiotic treatment does pay off, my doctor has treated thousands and people do recover, with chronic Lyme and cos. it's 3-5 years. , you should join the WI Lyme group, many are not from WI(I'm not) and you would get a lot out of it and also could contribute a lot as you do so much on this group. I really get a lot from your posts. Mike, the moderator, is outstanding, no wonder it's the most active group of all 50 states. Most on that group have Bartonella and Babesia, I haven't encountered anyone yet with the mites but I've told them my horror story. Many do have the crawling sensations, intense itching, and skin lesions. Even if you don't want to post you'd get tons of info from people treating with all different modalities.Aandraya On Sep 26, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I wanted to add that my husband got one of those strange bites a week ago, about a week after I got a bite. It looks just like mine. I sent pictures of the bite to my LLMD who felt it was a spider bite. We've had problems with spiders since the whole mite infestation, but most are kept out of the house because we sealed off all cracks and put DE on our decks downstairs. I still wonder what those spiders are transmitting. When our mite infestation happened we also had an infestation of spiders at the same time. They were very tiny and in the hundreds. It is unknown as to whether or not spiders can carry mites... they may be able to. Or they might be able to carry infections too.I hope the herxing passes. I've had one of the intense headaches for the last 3-4 days. Awful. Aches and pains everywhere.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:22:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

The herxing does pass, I think it takes much longer because we are dealing with highly virulent deeply seeded infections.On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one. I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2.On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my

landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body.

does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

Do

I

September 28, 2011

Here's the link- WisconsinLyme/?yguid=343774097On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: Aandraya,What is the exact name of the WI Lyme Group? I found the MI Lyme Group and confused the two... but realized later it is not the same group. I couldn't find the WI group in the list. Is it called something else?From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 6:44:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days Oh the herxes do pass! Sometimes it takes quite a while. And spiders absolutely do carry most of the same infections that ticks do plus some others. The antibiotic treatment does pay off, my doctor has treated thousands and people do recover, with chronic Lyme and cos. it's 3-5 years. , you should join the WI Lyme group, many are not from WI(I'm not) and you would get a lot out of it and also could contribute a lot as you do so much on this group. I really get a lot from your posts. Mike, the moderator, is outstanding, no wonder it's the most active group of all 50 states. Most on that group have Bartonella and Babesia, I haven't encountered anyone yet with the mites but I've told them my horror story. Many do have the crawling sensations, intense itching, and skin lesions. Even if you don't want to post you'd get tons of info from people treating with all different modalities.Aandraya On Sep 26, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I wanted to add that my husband got one of those strange bites a week ago, about a week after I got a bite. It looks just like mine. I sent pictures of the bite to my LLMD who felt it was a spider bite. We've had problems with spiders since the whole mite infestation, but most are kept out of the house because we sealed off all cracks and put DE on our decks downstairs. I still wonder what those spiders are transmitting. When our mite infestation happened we also had an infestation of spiders at the same time. They were very tiny and in the hundreds. It is unknown as to whether or not spiders can carry mites... they may be able to. Or they might be able to carry infections too.I hope the herxing passes. I've had one of the intense headaches for the last 3-4 days. Awful. Aches and pains everywhere.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:22:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days The herxing does pass, I think it takes much longer because we are dealing with highly virulent deeply seeded infections.On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one. I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2.On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month. Love and light, >Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>> Do I

September 28, 2011

So sorry you are suffering again at this point. Sending you a big hug for

relief !! I am finding it strange that the doctor is assuming a spider bite. I

googled when you told about yout bite and just entered " bite with a ring around "

and it come out that it would be a tic bite most likely. But what the heck do i

know anyway ;-)

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extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body.

does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a

long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it

starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms?

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I meant to spray the blow up with. Unless you are soaking it in the bath tub like Bill does, you want to keep critters from living on the blowup.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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September 28, 2011

I got it Aandraya! From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:22:09 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

Here's the link- WisconsinLyme/?yguid=343774097On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: Aandraya,What is the exact name of the WI Lyme Group? I found the MI Lyme Group and confused the two... but realized later it is not the same group. I couldn't find the WI group in the list. Is it called something else?From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 6:44:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days Oh the herxes do pass! Sometimes it takes quite a while. And spiders absolutely do carry most of the same infections that ticks do plus some others. The antibiotic treatment does pay off, my doctor has treated thousands and people do recover, with chronic Lyme and cos. it's 3-5 years. , you should join the WI Lyme group, many are not from WI(I'm not) and you would get a lot out of it and also could contribute a lot as you do so much on this group. I really get a lot from your posts. Mike, the moderator, is outstanding, no wonder it's the most active group of all 50 states. Most on that group have Bartonella and Babesia, I haven't encountered anyone yet with the mites but I've told them my horror story. Many do have the crawling sensations, intense itching, and skin lesions. Even if you don't want to post you'd get tons of info from people treating with all different modalities.Aandraya On Sep 26, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I wanted to add that my husband got one of those strange bites a week ago, about a week after I got a bite. It looks just like mine. I sent pictures of the bite to my LLMD who felt it was a spider bite. We've had problems with spiders since the whole mite infestation, but most are kept out of the house because we sealed off all cracks and put DE on our decks downstairs. I still wonder what those spiders are transmitting. When our mite infestation happened we also had an infestation of spiders at the same time. They were very tiny and in the hundreds. It is unknown as to whether or not spiders can carry mites... they may be able to. Or they might be able to carry infections too.I hope the herxing passes. I've had one of the intense headaches for the last 3-4 days. Awful. Aches and pains everywhere.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:22:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days The herxing does pass, I think it takes much longer because we are dealing with highly virulent deeply seeded infections.On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one. I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2.On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month. Love and light, >Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>> Do I

September 28, 2011

I think it could be a tic or a spider bite. She was guessing because of the nature of the bite and I had taken two pictures and sent them to her via email. I've had these bites just like this on two other occasions in past years and as I see it, it could have been either. My husband got an identical bite in our house last week on his upper back leg. When I did a thorough vacuuming I found several dead spiders under the bed. I have now put out spider traps again against the wall. I'm at least on antibiotics now, but he isn't. He is home sick with a respiratory illness for the last 2 days.I hope I can go the full 6 months on Doxy as Zoe did. It is a hard drug for me. Thanks Aggi!From: "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:33:47 PMSubject: Re: it's been a terrible few days

So sorry you are suffering again at this point. Sending you a big hug for relief !! I am finding it strange that the doctor is assuming a spider bite. I googled when you told about yout bite and just entered "bite with a ring around" and it come out that it would be a tic bite most likely. But what the heck do i know anyway ;-)

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- if your husband has Lyme there's a high possibility he has Babesia- often causes respiratory symptoms. Klinghardt's statistic is 80% with Lyme also have Babesia. Also, if these spiders or ticks are infected they can be reinfecting you, I've heard the reinfections can have some really severe effects. AandrayaOn Sep 28, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I think it could be a tic or a spider bite. She was guessing because of the nature of the bite and I had taken two pictures and sent them to her via email. I've had these bites just like this on two other occasions in past years and as I see it, it could have been either. My husband got an identical bite in our house last week on his upper back leg. When I did a thorough vacuuming I found several dead spiders under the bed. I have now put out spider traps again against the wall. I'm at least on antibiotics now, but he isn't. He is home sick with a respiratory illness for the last 2 days.I hope I can go the full 6 months on Doxy as Zoe did. It is a hard drug for me. Thanks Aggi!From: "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:33:47 PMSubject: Re: it's been a terrible few days So sorry you are suffering again at this point. Sending you a big hug for relief !! I am finding it strange that the doctor is assuming a spider bite. I googled when you told about yout bite and just entered "bite with a ring around" and it come out that it would be a tic bite most likely. But what the heck do i know anyway ;-) > >> > >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do > > I >

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>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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Thanks for posting this, Bill. I have used EDTA for chelating lead, but you're right, EDTA is good for Lyme. Any chelating agent for metals also attaches to and eliminates the biotoxins from Lyme and all the other infections. Lyme is known for producing many neurotoxins which cause all the strange symptoms.AandrayaOn Sep 25, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Doe wrote: Hi Aandraya Here is a possible cure for Lyme . chelation: or spelled kelation Lyme is bacteria Possibly Use hydrogen peroxide in blood and then EDTA (ethyl acid ) or vitamin C or PlaqueX is a plaque cutter. This is unfounded but might cure lyme , ask a chelation Dr , the cost for treatment is $75.00 . There are many chealation Dr's around Listen to this account of it use : This chelation saved Steves life also takes out plague from blood for strokes chelation procedure : They fill your viens with hydrogen peroxide , you go out to lunch , come back in 2 hours , they drain it out & your veins are cleared . and then they also do it with EDTA (ethyl acid ) or vitamin C or PlaqueX possible cure for: Lyme which is a bacteria This procedure saved Steve Tvedtens life by cleaning the plague out of his veins He said he went to the Dr, they filled his viens with peroxide , he then goes out to lunch for 2 hrs , then returns , they drain the peroxide out, & his viens are clear of all plague. Amazing ! ...He said it was painless. He went to China 4 days later to teach them integrated pest control. He was there for 2 month or so. He is very knowledgable of safe pest control & cleanses .He also sell products all at the average prices it costs elsewhere. I call him to get tips on pest control , he is smart and he is a Christian . His site is : Safe Solutions, Inc. toll free at 1-888-443-8738; http://www.safe2use.com Here is an intresting thing I read in his book which was 149.00 , now it is free in PDF .. Link: in html, http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8 & fr=sfp & p=kidney+stones+apple+cider+tvedten & u=www.safesolutionsinc.com/healthy.pdf & w=kidney+stones+apple+apples+cider+tvedten & d=QRPP_fmdOdZm & icp=1 & .intl=us Kidney stones calcium : newest way 8 oz of fresh squeezed lemon juice sweeten with stevia Then 1 oz in water every hour for 12 hrs Old way apple cider 1/2 tspn gravel root 1/2 tspn of Hydranga root from site: the urinary tract include uric acid and the amino acid cystine. Uric Stones: cure: surgery (aprox name) are the 2nd types off stone ,they are not soluble . Kidney Stones To safely and effectively remove calcium kidney stones, take 30 to 40 drops of gravel root tincture and 30 to 40 drops of hydrangea root tincture in a glass of apple cider twice a day. To help prevent their formation, take 2 - 50 mg B6 tablets and 1 - 250 mg tablet of magnesium before sleeping. Drink lots of distilled water from a glass (not plastic) bottle. Well that is amazing & Steve used this to cure his stones after ultrsound stone removal failed . When he awoke with 2 ft of string tied to 3 ft of plastic tubing inside his un mentionable tract. They said it failed we will have to do it again . He said no & searched for an easier cure , & found it ! I hope you do to Bye, Bill On Sun Sep 25th, 2011 4:20 PM EDT Aandraya wrote: >- >I am not able to work. Recently started treating Babesia for the second time with Mepron- I can't do anything! I feel like s#*^! I just found out I passed this to my boyfriend, he has the white tracks/ cut marks typical of Bartonella, but no major symptoms. He's going on Doxy and getting the Lyme Igenix test. My doctor says if he has Bart he also has Lyme, they go together. I feel horrible. If your husband was sufficiently treated for Lyme and has no symptoms I don't think he needs to be on abx, but if he still has some symptoms he should treat it before it gets out of hand. He should get the CD57 test from LabCorp, if it's over 100 and he has no symptoms he could be okay. Also, the Igenix western blot to see if he's Igm negative. Could you reinfect him? I don't know. I'm devastated that my boyfriend has this! > >I am no longer living in the hell of the insects and mold issues in my environment, but I'm still dealing with Lyme and coinfections, there are just no shortcuts to treat this. Treating these infections is brutal, but what other options do I have? > > >On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: > >> I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one. >> >> I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too. >> >> >> >> From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...> >> bird mites >> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AM >> Subject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days >> >> >> I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2. >> >> >> >> On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: >> >> >> I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month. >> Love and light, >> >> >> >> >> >Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less. >> >I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >> >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too. >> >Good luck! >> > >> >From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...> >> >bird mites >> >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM >> >Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days >> > >> > >> > >> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!! >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Do >> I >>

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I've taken a lot of the antibiotics for Lyme, Bartonella and the antiprotozoals for Babesia- Mepron and Artemisinin. Antifungals, I've used pao de arco, black walnut tincture, Itraconazole and Voriconazole and other things I can't think of right now.AandrayaOn Sep 25, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Marilyn Bentley wrote: What all have you taken?>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>> Do I

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How much blk walnut can u consume in a day, and also clove oil and oil of oregano, arent you supposed to mix these together?>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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A lot of companies make their own proprietary blends. A-Bart, Energique's Yeast Formula or Artemisiacom are products I've used. Those herbs don't have to be taken together, probably better results when using combinations though.AandrayaOn Oct 2, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Marilyn Bentley <colly_miller@...> wrote:

How much blk walnut can u consume in a day, and also clove oil and oil of oregano, arent you supposed to mix these together?>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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Also, Biopure's Gamma ozonated plant oil and Quinntessiance.On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Marilyn Bentley <colly_miller@...> wrote:

How much blk walnut can u consume in a day, and also clove oil and oil of oregano, arent you supposed to mix these together?>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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What do you think really got rid of bugs? One thing or the combination of stuff? I will b glad to b thrught with this. And what was your dr. again, sorry i cant keep up with anything, was he in Fl? I am gonna try to make an appt in the next month or so, will have vacation time built up again. Thanks, u have been a life saver for me.>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol

work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

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What got rid of the bugs is treating the chronic infections- I used herbal antibiotics, but I believe Rx antibiotics are necessary- these infections are so virulent and have been present for a long time for a lot of us. As my skin got healthier and I stayed on the meds the bugs did disappear. I did all the cleaning throughout my treatment and got away from a moldy environment. You won't get better if you have mold in your house.AandrayaDr. Crist is in Missouri and is supposed to be good. I don't know how much he charges or if he takes insurance. My doctor in WI is very reasonable and does take insurance.On Oct 2, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Marilyn Bentley wrote: What do you think really got rid of bugs? One thing or the combination of stuff? I will b glad to b thrught with this. And what was your dr. again, sorry i cant keep up with anything, was he in Fl? I am gonna try to make an appt in the next month or so, will have vacation time built up again. Thanks, u have been a life saver for me.>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>> Do I

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They checked this apt for mold before i moved in. I also have a dehumidifier going all the time.>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and

produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

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I'm sorry you might have to travel interstate Marilyn, but at least it isn't as bad as one Morgie I knew a few years back who traveled from Nova Scotia to California to see my LLMD. Bless her. I lost contact with her.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:46:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

What got rid of the bugs is treating the chronic infections- I used herbal antibiotics, but I believe Rx antibiotics are necessary- these infections are so virulent and have been present for a long time for a lot of us. As my skin got healthier and I stayed on the meds the bugs did disappear. I did all the cleaning throughout my treatment and got away from a moldy environment. You won't get better if you have mold in your house.AandrayaDr. Crist is in Missouri and is supposed to be good. I don't know how much he charges or if he takes insurance. My doctor in WI is very reasonable and does take insurance.On Oct 2, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Marilyn Bentley wrote: What do you think really got rid of bugs? One thing or the combination of stuff? I will b glad to b thrught with this. And what was your dr. again, sorry i cant keep up with anything, was he in Fl? I am gonna try to make an appt in the next month or so, will have vacation time built up again. Thanks, u have been a life saver for me.>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>> Do I

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Having a doctor who knows how to treat this stuff is so important, and one that will stick with you until you are completely better. That's my doctor. AandrayaOn Oct 2, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I'm sorry you might have to travel interstate Marilyn, but at least it isn't as bad as one Morgie I knew a few years back who traveled from Nova Scotia to California to see my LLMD. Bless her. I lost contact with her.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:46:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days What got rid of the bugs is treating the chronic infections- I used herbal antibiotics, but I believe Rx antibiotics are necessary- these infections are so virulent and have been present for a long time for a lot of us. As my skin got healthier and I stayed on the meds the bugs did disappear. I did all the cleaning throughout my treatment and got away from a moldy environment. You won't get better if you have mold in your house.AandrayaDr. Crist is in Missouri and is supposed to be good. I don't know how much he charges or if he takes insurance. My doctor in WI is very reasonable and does take insurance.On Oct 2, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Marilyn Bentley wrote: What do you think really got rid of bugs? One thing or the combination of stuff? I will b glad to b thrught with this. And what was your dr. again, sorry i cant keep up with anything, was he in Fl? I am gonna try to make an appt in the next month or so, will have vacation time built up again. Thanks, u have been a life saver for me.>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>> Do I

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And mine. L.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 11:04:51 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

Having a doctor who knows how to treat this stuff is so important, and one that will stick with you until you are completely better. That's my doctor. AandrayaOn Oct 2, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I'm sorry you might have to travel interstate Marilyn, but at least it isn't as bad as one Morgie I knew a few years back who traveled from Nova Scotia to California to see my LLMD. Bless her. I lost contact with her.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:46:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days What got rid of the bugs is treating the chronic infections- I used herbal antibiotics, but I believe Rx antibiotics are necessary- these infections are so virulent and have been present for a long time for a lot of us. As my skin got healthier and I stayed on the meds the bugs did disappear. I did all the cleaning throughout my treatment and got away from a moldy environment. You won't get better if you have mold in your house.AandrayaDr. Crist is in Missouri and is supposed to be good. I don't know how much he charges or if he takes insurance. My doctor in WI is very reasonable and does take insurance.On Oct 2, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Marilyn Bentley wrote: What do you think really got rid of bugs? One thing or the combination of stuff? I will b glad to b thrught with this. And what was your dr. again, sorry i cant keep up with anything, was he in Fl? I am gonna try to make an appt in the next month or so, will have vacation time built up again. Thanks, u have been a life saver for me.>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>> Do I

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Somebody on here told me of a dr in Fl, but i cant remenmber who>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and

produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

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Probably me. Dr. Schaller in Naples- he charges waaaaay too much money and no insurance. I saw him for 3 months and ran out of money. If money is not an issue, go for it, he charges $875 an hour plus orders some expensive labs. I know Dr. Crist wouldn't charge that much, but he still might be high. My Lyme doc is one of the few that doesn't charge high fees, and doesn't order tons of labs. My insurance doesn't cover him because he is out of network in another state, but I see him every 4 months and his fees are so reasonable.AandrayaOn Oct 2, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Marilyn Bentley wrote: Somebody on here told me of a dr in Fl, but i cant remenmber who>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>> Do I

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I have blue cross blues shield, but my dr will do or give me anythnig i want, he just dont know about these things, so if i could tell him what i need and what kind of tests, he will do it.>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and

produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

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what are herbal antibiotics?>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and

produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

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