Re: it's been a terrible few days

September 26, 2011

Thanks . Most software for scopes are PC compatible only from what I've seen. When I find one that has Mac software I'll purchase it, so if you can try this one you have, I'd greatly be helped and appreciate your advice. It does help psychologically. From: "jcote1321" <jcote@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 5:57:56 AMSubject: Re: it's been a terrible few days

Hi ,

I found a good (and really cheap) microscope on DealExtreme, I'll bring it into work tomorrow and try it on a Mac to find out if it's compatible.

Being able to see these things with my own eyes really helped me - psycologically since it refutes any argument that it's all in your head, and physically since I could try different strategies and then look at my skin to see whether it was getting rid of them. The microscope I have only goes up to 200x, which allows me to see my mites as tiny black dots. Not enough to identify them, but enough to figure out their favorite locations on my skin. I just noticed that they have a newer model that claims up to 800x for $41. I'm considering getting this one since it might allow me to get a detailed enough image to use for identification.

Best regards,

> From: Goldstein@... <Goldstein@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

> bird mites

> Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 4:59 PM

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> Thanks... will look on google.

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> From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>

> bird mites

> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:21:45 PM

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> >Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.

> >I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those ofÃ‚ 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. AfterÃ‚ having dealtÃ‚ with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, aÃ‚ parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this.

> >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.

> >Good luck!Ã‚

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> >From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>

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> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!

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September 26, 2011

Yes, I did LInda. Black specks and that were more darkbrown when magnifying them a bit. Also the ones that were glittering a bit...Never found out what they were, and nobody here knew for sure.Take care"!CeciliaFrom: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:34

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Did you have the specs Cecilia? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:16:41 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

Unfortunately probably no one knows excactly what the specks are. Hope you get an answer here.

KRCecilia

From: Marilyn Bentley <colly_miller@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

It will be feb before i can go see one of these dr, such a long way off, have to wait on income tax. It so bad at work, i come home at lunch and iron my shirt, to kill the sparkly things, seems like a waste of time cuz they get back on me. I get confused about these bugs, theres the dead blk specks and then the aparkley ones and the little brown specks that get on my shirt at work, i wish i knew what the heck it was >Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked

to make my home environment affect me less. >I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too. >Good luck! > >From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...> >bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM >Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days > > > >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last

night

and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!! > > >> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> > >> > >

September 26, 2011

Hi Bill,

I took a magnifying glass to my undies and saw the fungus and mold growing on it in little specks and that was after washing them 3 times and drying 3. I tried all kinds of cleaners to kill it and kept checking with the magnifying glass. Only the lysol complete worked.

Here's something interesting. My sister just had 3 lesions appear. She thinks she may have the fungus too, but her doctor won't prescribe the meds as he disagrees. She bought some Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and dabbed some on the spots. They cleared up in 3 days. I am trying them on a few spots that are taking forever to heal and I seem to be getting great results. We'll see in about a week if they are gone. I'll report.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.> >I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage

for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too. >Good luck! > >From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...> >bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM >Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days

> > > >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more> than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!! > > >> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

September 26, 2011

Wow! That would be amazing if that worked on lesions! Very practical too.From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:33:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

Hi Bill,

I took a magnifying glass to my undies and saw the fungus and mold growing on it in little specks and that was after washing them 3 times and drying 3. I tried all kinds of cleaners to kill it and kept checking with the magnifying glass. Only the lysol complete worked.

Here's something interesting. My sister just had 3 lesions appear. She thinks she may have the fungus too, but her doctor won't prescribe the meds as he disagrees. She bought some Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and dabbed some on the spots. They cleared up in 3 days. I am trying them on a few spots that are taking forever to heal and I seem to be getting great results. We'll see in about a week if they are gone. I'll report.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.> >I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage

for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too. >Good luck! > >From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...> >bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM >Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days

> > > >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more> than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!! > > >> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>

September 26, 2011

Aandraya, You are a wealth of information!

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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September 26, 2011

Ditto... yup, she is.From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:01:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

Aandraya, You are a wealth of information!

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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September 26, 2011

Seriously, the whole mite/bug/collembola infestation was outrageous. It seems impossible that they're gone. I don't EVER want to go through that again. I'm still dealing with chronic Lyme in a very big way, but after going through what I did I know I can handle this. I came upon this group after they were gone, but I will share anything that I can with others that might help them get past it.One thing I'm not clear about is how people know they're birdmites. The name of the group could be deceiving. I saw collembola, but there could have been any number of mites, parasites, etc. Involved of which I will never know. I was lucky to find a doctor who knew about this stuff and treated me full force at day 1 when I saw him- Dr. Schaller in Naples, Fl. He's VERY expensive but after a few months with him I found another doctor closer to me who continued treating me effectively.One thing I never mentioned- the fuzzballs/ lint cocoons some of us get on clothes and fabric- if you tap them they will jump and slide, I think it was the collembola(springtails) inside them. Anyone ever noticed this?Aandraya On Sep 26, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Ditto... yup, she is.From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:01:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

Aandraya, You are a wealth of information!

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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September 26, 2011

Aandraya,I felt for you when you said you thought you may have given your boyfriend Bartonella and maybe Lyme. I have to remember that Bartonella seems to be ubiquitous - it seems to be everywhere--like 70% of cats have it. Maybe you did not pass it along to him, but you know, I hope you don't feel guilt about it because how would you have known? We are all doing the best we can under the most trying of situations. None of us have all the information about these illnesses and we are trying hard to educate ourselves... part of why this board exists. If he gets on some meds quickly he may be able to get over it quickly. I was not sure if Bartonella could be transmitted through human contact. I thought it had to be through a bug of some sort. Again, I could be mistaken. He has you and you have an abundant amount of information and experience, so he will be helped greatly if he does have Lyme and/or Bart.I've been sick as a dog since starting the meds again. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't treat. But at least there is hope in getting much better if we go through the discomfort now of doing the meds. I look at my husband and we are aging... this illness and the mites really added years to our physical bodies. One never knows about the future and sometimes it feels like we are free falling... a sensation I dislike. We can only do the best we can do and take it one day at a time. I really do understand all of your sentiments about this.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:20:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

-I am not able to work. Recently started treating Babesia for the second time with Mepron- I can't do anything! I feel like s#*^! I just found out I passed this to my boyfriend, he has the white tracks/ cut marks typical of Bartonella, but no major symptoms. He's going on Doxy and getting the Lyme Igenix test. My doctor says if he has Bart he also has Lyme, they go together. I feel horrible. If your husband was sufficiently treated for Lyme and has no symptoms I don't think he needs to be on abx, but if he still has some symptoms he should treat it before it gets out of hand. He should get the CD57 test from LabCorp, if it's over 100 and he has no symptoms he could be okay. Also, the Igenix western blot to see if he's Igm negative. Could you reinfect him? I don't know. I'm devastated that my boyfriend has this!I am no longer living in the hell of the insects and mold issues in my environment, but I'm still dealing with Lyme and coinfections, there are just no shortcuts to treat this. Treating these infections is brutal, but what other options do I have? On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one. I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2.On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my

landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body.

does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

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September 26, 2011

I wanted to add that my husband got one of those strange bites a week ago, about a week after I got a bite. It looks just like mine. I sent pictures of the bite to my LLMD who felt it was a spider bite. We've had problems with spiders since the whole mite infestation, but most are kept out of the house because we sealed off all cracks and put DE on our decks downstairs. I still wonder what those spiders are transmitting. When our mite infestation happened we also had an infestation of spiders at the same time. They were very tiny and in the hundreds. It is unknown as to whether or not spiders can carry mites... they may be able to. Or they might be able to carry infections too.I hope the herxing passes. I've had one of the intense headaches for the last 3-4 days. Awful. Aches and pains everywhere.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:22:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

The herxing does pass, I think it takes much longer because we are dealing with highly virulent deeply seeded infections.On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one. I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2.On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my

landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body.

does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

Do

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September 26, 2011

Oh the herxes do pass! Sometimes it takes quite a while. And spiders absolutely do carry most of the same infections that ticks do plus some others. The antibiotic treatment does pay off, my doctor has treated thousands and people do recover, with chronic Lyme and cos. it's 3-5 years. , you should join the WI Lyme group, many are not from WI(I'm not) and you would get a lot out of it and also could contribute a lot as you do so much on this group. I really get a lot from your posts. Mike, the moderator, is outstanding, no wonder it's the most active group of all 50 states. Most on that group have Bartonella and Babesia, I haven't encountered anyone yet with the mites but I've told them my horror story. Many do have the crawling sensations, intense itching, and skin lesions. Even if you don't want to post you'd get tons of info from people treating with all different modalities.Aandraya On Sep 26, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I wanted to add that my husband got one of those strange bites a week ago, about a week after I got a bite. It looks just like mine. I sent pictures of the bite to my LLMD who felt it was a spider bite. We've had problems with spiders since the whole mite infestation, but most are kept out of the house because we sealed off all cracks and put DE on our decks downstairs. I still wonder what those spiders are transmitting. When our mite infestation happened we also had an infestation of spiders at the same time. They were very tiny and in the hundreds. It is unknown as to whether or not spiders can carry mites... they may be able to. Or they might be able to carry infections too.I hope the herxing passes. I've had one of the intense headaches for the last 3-4 days. Awful. Aches and pains everywhere.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:22:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

The herxing does pass, I think it takes much longer because we are dealing with highly virulent deeply seeded infections.On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one. I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2.On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my

landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body.

does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

Do

I

September 26, 2011

I cant seem to find any info on this feather winged beetle>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

>>>>>

September 26, 2011

If the feather winged beetle was the sparkly things, I had those. Wish I had caught one to see.On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Marilyn Bentley <colly_miller@...> wrote:

I cant seem to find any info on this feather winged beetle>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

>>>>>

September 26, 2011

I really appreciate your words, . He is taking it really well. I started seeing him a couple yrs ago when I was becoming symptomatic so he's never even known me in a healthy state. I believe since he hasn't had it for so long- like his whole life, abx should knock it down fairly easily. I'll keep you updated. At least he never had the mites and that whole fiasco.On Sep 26, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Aandraya,I felt for you when you said you thought you may have given your boyfriend Bartonella and maybe Lyme. I have to remember that Bartonella seems to be ubiquitous - it seems to be everywhere--like 70% of cats have it. Maybe you did not pass it along to him, but you know, I hope you don't feel guilt about it because how would you have known? We are all doing the best we can under the most trying of situations. None of us have all the information about these illnesses and we are trying hard to educate ourselves... part of why this board exists. If he gets on some meds quickly he may be able to get over it quickly. I was not sure if Bartonella could be transmitted through human contact. I thought it had to be through a bug of some sort. Again, I could be mistaken. He has you and you have an abundant amount of information and experience, so he will be helped greatly if he does have Lyme and/or Bart.I've been sick as a dog since starting the meds again. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't treat. But at least there is hope in getting much better if we go through the discomfort now of doing the meds. I look at my husband and we are aging... this illness and the mites really added years to our physical bodies. One never knows about the future and sometimes it feels like we are free falling... a sensation I dislike. We can only do the best we can do and take it one day at a time. I really do understand all of your sentiments about this.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:20:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

-I am not able to work. Recently started treating Babesia for the second time with Mepron- I can't do anything! I feel like s#*^! I just found out I passed this to my boyfriend, he has the white tracks/ cut marks typical of Bartonella, but no major symptoms. He's going on Doxy and getting the Lyme Igenix test. My doctor says if he has Bart he also has Lyme, they go together. I feel horrible. If your husband was sufficiently treated for Lyme and has no symptoms I don't think he needs to be on abx, but if he still has some symptoms he should treat it before it gets out of hand. He should get the CD57 test from LabCorp, if it's over 100 and he has no symptoms he could be okay. Also, the Igenix western blot to see if he's Igm negative. Could you reinfect him? I don't know. I'm devastated that my boyfriend has this!I am no longer living in the hell of the insects and mold issues in my environment, but I'm still dealing with Lyme and coinfections, there are just no shortcuts to treat this. Treating these infections is brutal, but what other options do I have? On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one. I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2.On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my

landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body.

does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

Do

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September 27, 2011

So sorry you are feeling that bad . I really hope youÂ´ll be better soon.

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I wanted to add that my husband got one of those strange bites a week ago, about a week after I got a bite. It looks just like mine. I sent pictures of the bite to my LLMD who felt it was a spider bite. We've had problems with spiders since the whole mite infestation, but most are kept out of the house because we sealed off all cracks and put DE on our decks downstairs. I still wonder what those spiders are transmitting. When our mite infestation happened we also had an infestation of spiders at the same time. They were very tiny and in the hundreds. It is unknown as to whether or not spiders can carry mites... they may be able to. Or they might be able to carry infections too.

I hope the herxing passes. I've had one of the intense headaches for the last 3-4 days. Awful. Aches and pains everywhere.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:22:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

The herxing does pass, I think it takes much longer because we are dealing with highly virulent deeply seeded infections.

On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one.

I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2.

On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted

bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good

luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes

crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

Do

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September 27, 2011

Thanks Cecilia. L.From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:20:51 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

So sorry you are feeling that bad . I really hope youÂ´ll be better soon.

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I wanted to add that my husband got one of those strange bites a week ago, about a week after I got a bite. It looks just like mine. I sent pictures of the bite to my LLMD who felt it was a spider bite. We've had problems with spiders since the whole mite infestation, but most are kept out of the house because we sealed off all cracks and put DE on our decks downstairs. I still wonder what those spiders are transmitting. When our mite infestation happened we also had an infestation of spiders at the same time. They were very tiny and in the hundreds. It is unknown as to whether or not spiders can carry mites... they may be able to. Or they might be able to carry infections too.

I hope the herxing passes. I've had one of the intense headaches for the last 3-4 days. Awful. Aches and pains everywhere.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:22:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

The herxing does pass, I think it takes much longer because we are dealing with highly virulent deeply seeded infections.

On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I don't know how you have done it. I'm on day 3 of herxing and feel so sick. Headache, severe insomnia, woke up at 3 am again, couldn't get back to sleep, body aches and pains, neck hurts, everything hurts. I know sbmom is on the same drugs and was feeling some better after week one.

I am wondering if you or anyone knows if Bart can be transmitted to another person (my husband). He has Lyme, has treated for it, but he does not have the symptoms I have had... he has no symptoms of either Lyme or Bart. Since I am treating with abx I am wondering if he should too.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 11:26:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I know a lot of people use toxic cleaning supplies, I used only enzyme cleaners all plant based. I didn't want to add to my overly toxic body. It did take me a year but I have no mold or insects now for 13 months, and I've been on multiple cocktails of antibiotics for 2 years. For chronic Lyme it's 3-5 yrs of treatment, I'm about to complete year 2.

On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I always feared the same thing. Another thing that worked for me was Bifen. You can buy it online at doyourownpestcontrol.com. It's concentrated and lasts for years. Spray on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. It kills bugs/mites. I had to do that for the critters and the Lysol for the fungus/mold although Lysol kills its share of bugs, too. Leave the house for 2 hours after spraying. Spray 1 time a month.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted

bleach followed by dusting with dry baking soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good

luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes

crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

Do

I

September 27, 2011

I looked at one, it was so gross. Last night i used coconut oil mixed with 4 different kinds of essential oil 25 drops each then covered that with lard on my body, they didnt bother me all night, lol>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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Not much out there on the Featherwinged beetle Marilyn. I know it is the smallest beetle known to man and from the tropics. It can be found cohabiting with termites. Very little is known about it as it has never been a point of interest to anyone.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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September 27, 2011

Great news Marilyn!>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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September 27, 2011

I guess thats what i have, but i am doing a lot better. Got me a new blow up mattress, lol. Enrolled in college today. Not gonna let this get me down, i have a life to live.>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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September 27, 2011

I can't imagine an intense headach for that long. God bless you dear.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a

doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

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September 27, 2011

After you remove the sheets from the blow up, spray with Lysol disinfectant. I use it in my shoes too.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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September 27, 2011

I dont use sheets, i cut open trash bags, too much to iron, lol, im a plastic girl now>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle.

it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >>

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September 27, 2011

Thanks . Please keep me posted. From: "jcote1321" <jcote@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:49:03 PMSubject: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I plugged the microscope into a Mac today but it didn't get recognized. Maybe there were drivers on the CD that came with it, I'll try to find it. If I can get it to work I'll post an update.

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Thanks dear . Feeling some better today, but I really think it is the herxing... Love From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:49:11 PMSubject: Re: Re: it's been a terrible few days

I can't imagine an intense headach for that long. God bless you dear.

Love and light,

>Have you tried dusting the floor with dry arm and hammer detergent? This was the first thing that worked for me. I left it work itself in for a couple days -major relief, and it gave me a break from constant vacuuming. The carpet wasn't a problem for me after that. I was surprised that the tile areas of the house also seemed to be a problem. For that the combination of diluted bleach followed by dusting with dry baking

soda cleared things up. I later vacuumed up the baking soda. I never identified the bug or bugs that were biting me, but those things worked to make my home environment affect me less.>I ended up finding out that I was attracting various infections and parasites to my skin due to internal toxic overload. My symptoms closely followed those of 'Neuro Cutaneous Syndrome'. After having dealt with my environment, putting loads of stuff in storage for a year, and doing lots of scabies type remedies, I found this out and started more internal protocols prescribed by Dr. Amin, a parasitologist in Arizona that has been studying this. >Your situation may be different, but if the arm & hammer baths relieved your symptoms somewhat (as it also did for me), this could be something that would help you make some headway with your carpeted areas too.>Good luck! >>From: alaire73 <alaire_fetters@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:32 PM>Subject: Re: it's been a terrible few days>>> >if i don't vacuum i keep something dusted on floor.if my landord has a prob she is more than welcome to move on in.i'm in survival mode! nothing i have put on my body repels.i have done it all. i took a lysol bath last night and that did help. these guys seem to like tea tree oil so i stopped. listerine,sulfur, deet didn't work either. borax and epsom salt and arm and hammer baths do relieve symptoms. i woke up normal this morning so who knows.i know the dawn and lysol work it's just keeping up with the cycle. it takes only 2 to tango and produce and produce and produce. kill the bug!!!!!!!!>>>> >> >my body seriously cannot take anymore bites. i keep waking up with extremely swollen eyes & face, lumps, and these huge hives all over my body. does your body just get to the point where it can't take it anymore? i am on a long waiting list for a

doctor. i just want to stay safe until i see him. it starts as bites then goes crazy. has anyone experienced these symptoms? >> >>>>>

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