Bill

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Haven't started with the deadlifts (at least the Olympic style from the floor--I've done the Romanian style from standing to back parallel to the floor and back up to standing) That's one of my long term goals for this year (to do the classic deadlift from the floor). In the meantime I want to get to as good of form as this old body will do and start adding weight on the squats--I'm starting with the bar and went to 155---next time 185---then if form is excellent on the work sets, I'll move to 225. I've got the strength to go higher but I don't want to rush and compromise form. Slow and controlled descent and a power lift. I'll do them as the first 5 sets in a regular LBW day, then follow with hack squats on a machine. Then on to the hamstrings. Progress continues. Lot's of opportunity for accomplishment. :=) Kit

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Hi - I'm new and have been lurking but I have seen Bill - full bodied- and

he looks good any way you look!

I have the Body For Life video that was sent out a couple of years ago, but

still, I'm quite sure he hasn't changed!!

Bill

I can honestly say I don't believe I've even seen a total body shot

of Bill. Just his upper body (not that there's anything wrong with

THAT) so if anyone wants to lead me in that direction feel

free...also I wouldn't have a problem with staring at him even if he

was of a different persuasion.

I have, however, seen his brother . Yow-za.

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Bill is all that and more. lol You'll have to watch the Body of Work tape..

YOWZA

Donna H

Bill

I can honestly say I don't believe I've even seen a total body shot

of Bill. Just his upper body (not that there's anything wrong with

THAT) so if anyone wants to lead me in that direction feel

free...also I wouldn't have a problem with staring at him even if he

was of a different persuasion.

I have, however, seen his brother . Yow-za.

[Guest guest]

> I can honestly say I don't believe I've even seen a total body shot

> of Bill.so if anyone wants to lead me in that direction feel

> free...

uh, do you have the BFL book? he's in there head to toe.

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Uh huh

He sure is.

Re: Bill

> I can honestly say I don't believe I've even seen a total body shot

> of Bill.so if anyone wants to lead me in that direction feel

> free...

uh, do you have the BFL book? he's in there head to toe.

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in his book there is a full body shot of bill! with all his muscles marked for

all of us (me...) muscle illiterates!

Ena.

Bill

I can honestly say I don't believe I've even seen a total body shot

of Bill. Just his upper body (not that there's anything wrong with

THAT) so if anyone wants to lead me in that direction feel

free...also I wouldn't have a problem with staring at him even if he

was of a different persuasion.

I have, however, seen his brother . Yow-za.

[Guest guest]

> > I can honestly say I don't believe I've even seen a total body

shot

> > of Bill.so if anyone wants to lead me in that direction feel

> > free...

>

>

> uh, do you have the BFL book? he's in there head to toe.

You know, I borrowed it from someone, and a few pages are

missing...that must be one of them. Ah, I must sound like an idiot,

eh!

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There is a hunky picture of Bill at the main BFL website under 'Bill

Says' ~ sans shirt so you can see what a great physique he has:

http://www.bodyforlife.com/letter_from_bill.shtml

<<joni>>

*check out the champion gallery while you are there..great pics*

[Guest guest]

> There is a hunky picture of Bill at the main BFL website

under 'Bill

> Says' ~ sans shirt so you can see what a great physique he has:

>

> Thanks...I checked back in my book and it was in there...now I AM

an idiot I guess the pages that were missing were just the

workout logs, I didn't even notice! (I'm so embarrassed!)

Oh well!

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Actually - (IMHO) he is waaay overbuilt. Just doesn't do it for

me.

There was an artickle in MM about what type of phsycique guys would

rather have - not suprisingly was that msot of them chose anywhere

from " bill " to " hulk on steroids " .

they should have a survery on what women prefer on guys. I prefer

slim with good definition (as in Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise) every

time! Or - like pro soccer player - (wow - those guys have great

Bods!)

> > There is a hunky picture of Bill at the main BFL website

> under 'Bill

> > Says' ~ sans shirt so you can see what a great physique he has:

> >

> > Thanks...I checked back in my book and it was in there...now I AM

> an idiot I guess the pages that were missing were just the

> workout logs, I didn't even notice! (I'm so embarrassed!)

>

> Oh well!

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haftaski77 wrote:

> Actually - (IMHO) he is waaay overbuilt. Just doesn't do it for

> me.

>

> There was an artickle in MM about what type of phsycique guys would

> rather have - not suprisingly was that msot of them chose anywhere

> from " bill " to " hulk on steroids " .

>

> they should have a survery on what women prefer on guys. I prefer

> slim with good definition (as in Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise) every

> time! Or - like pro soccer player - (wow - those guys have great

> Bods!)

I so completely agree with you here! DH and I have talked about what we want

our bodies to look like and we both just think people look better if they're

slim (not skinny), athletic, and with good definition. We go for that

" natural healthy " look not the " weight lifting god/dess " look

Serenity

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haftaski77 wrote:

> Actually - (IMHO) he is waaay overbuilt. Just doesn't do it for

> me.

>

> There was an artickle in MM about what type of phsycique guys would

> rather have - not suprisingly was that msot of them chose anywhere

> from " bill " to " hulk on steroids " .

>

> they should have a survery on what women prefer on guys. I prefer

> slim with good definition (as in Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise) every

> time! Or - like pro soccer player - (wow - those guys have great

> Bods!)

And, on that note, it's a shame that when the clubs transitioned to groups a

" poll " feature wasn't included like normal have It'd be fun

to have this as a poll so we could all vote!

Serenity

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Bill

I have a lot of those fine art molds and I find they take more time than

they're worth. Don't get me wrong.....they're beautiful. But a lot of them

are SO detailed you spend more time getting them done than the money

that you can get for them when trying to sell them. Did I say that right?

I always tried using different colored soap " poured " into the details. I have

seen people discussing pouring a say solid white soap and then " painting " the

picture of the soap but even that (if it works) is time consuming. Then after

all sometimes I have a hard time getting them out of the mold. I've done

the " Iris " a few times, which isn't toooo bad. But some of the more " picture "

type ones are a pain. Just my opinion.

Re: RE: Re: What have you made lately?

I have been playing around with different ways to color the details on the

bars from the fine art molds. I just posted 3 pics of the most recent bars. Sea

Scape, Iris, Poinsetta.

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Your'e right about it being a pain. At least at 1st is was more than now. I

mostly make them up as they are ordered and get an extra $2.00 for each one

without any problem. It takes only about 10 mins. now for each bar except for

the ones I drop while trying to put in the drier.

>I have a lot of those fine art molds and I find they take more time than

>they're worth. Don't get me wrong.....they're beautiful. But a lot of them

>are SO detailed you spend more time getting them done than the money

>

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Oh my God. Wow again. Another person who has been

to Ilion???? Yup, we used to have a lot of Nice N Easy

Shops around the valley. Weren't they owned by the

Bull Brothers? Or did Bull Brothers buy the company

from Herkimer Petroleum? I think most of those

shops are now called FasTraks. I don't know who owns them.

It may still be the Bull Brothers Corp. Anyway, thanks

for letting me know that there are other people in the

country that know where I live. (lol)

RE: Attn:

Hi ,

I know where it is too. Even been there a lot.

At one time I worked for Herkimer Petroleum managing a Nice N Easy shop.

Wow. Somebody that actually knows where Ilion is, and

on top of that......has actually been here. (hehe)

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Hi Bill

Thanks for the GENEROUS offer. I don't know where you're heading (if

you do go) but I only live

about 5 miles from the Herkimer Exit on the Thruway (I believe Herkimer

is Exit 30) but don't quote

me. IF you do decide to take a trip Sunday, that would be great. And as

long as you were going

to bring the DPG I might as well have you bring a (100) count bunch of

the 11 " incense sticks, too.

The natural color is fine. But please don't go out of your way with this

because it's not that important.

What I could do is give you my phone # and if you have a cell phone you

could call me when you're

at or near the exit. It would only take me about 8 minutes to get there.

Or there's a Denny's Restaurant

just yards down the road from the Thruway Exit. Either one is fine with

me. You don't happen to carry

the zip-lock baggies to sell your finished incense in, do you? I just

remembered I never bought any of those. If

not, that's no biggie. You can email me privately if you'd like to set

this up. My addy is jmurray2@...

Thanks, Bill.

Murray

Re: incense making

Hi ,

As far as I know the craft stores don't carry the DPG.

If you would like some without paying the shipping, I'm heading out west

on Sunday to make deliveries, if the ribs aren't too sore. Plus you can

get the 10% discount.

You can use most any fragrane oil, whether it be for candles or soap.

The water solouble fragrances are the ones that will not work very well.

Mixing is anywhere from 1 to 3 parts DPG to 1 part FO.

Depends on how strong the FO is. I mostly do the 1 to 1 mix.

From everything I've read you need DPG to dilute the

fragrance oils. Do any of you know whether AC or s carries

it? I know it's pretty cheap and hate to spend as much to have it

shipped

Question: Can you use the fragrance oils we

buy to put in our soaps? It doesn't have to be special oil for

scenting,

does it?

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I think I'll probably be getting my bike out of storage this Spring!!

I don't go that far anyway. Maybe I'll be pulling a wagon behind for

my groceries (hehe).

RE: Hitting the road -

,

I figured that was typo thing. However it made me think of the bicycle

again!

That sounds like it may work......just hold your breath that the price

of gas doesn't

go up much more. The price here in Ilion is now at $177.9/gal. What a

big rip-off!!

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Bill

Gee, that would be great. Did you receive the " real " one in the mail

like I should've gotten? I cannot BELIEVE that we have to

chase around

to do what is required by law in order to comply. And on top

of that they

FINE you if you don't do it. What a crock this is!!! The

thing I hate about

using my fax machine is that it uses the same phone # as my

home phone #.

I don't have a separate phone line for it. So now I can't

even answer my phone

all day (if I remember how this thing works) because it may

be the fax coming

through and I think that it would not work if I answer the

phone. If I don't receive

it by 3:00 PM I'll probably never get it because my teenager

will be home from

school and the phone rings non-stop after 3:00.

So.....if I don't get it by say 9:00 PM, could I give you a

call at home and set

something up with you to fax it to me?

Re: RE: TAX INFO -

If you don't the form by tonight from the fax service, I can fax you a

copy of the ones I have if you are interested.

Bill

told me about

the FAX HOTLINE.

You call this # and when it asks you for the 5 digit code

for the form you need you

enter 17128. I have a fax machine so I called and did it.

But it tells you depending on

how busy they are, it can take hours to receive. I did it 20

minutes ago and haven't

gotten anything yet. I'll let you know if it works.

Otherwise, I'll have to wait until I

get my " live " copy in the mail. What a bunch of horsesh_t!!

Our tax dollars at work

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Thanks for the link to Everclear. Are you POSITIVE that we can sell

toiletries

using Everclear legally? If so, when you make labels for the

items....say body spray,

how do you label Everclear? This is all new to me because I thought it

was

illegal to have it shipped to us New Yorkers.

Re: Vodka question-Dee

Well I couldn't find it in my files. No surprise to me, but here is a

link to a place that sells the Everclear and will ship to you. It's not

leagal to purchase here but OK to buy on the net and have shipped. Go

figure. http://store./randslls/pa25994.html

I'll keep looking for the other also.

Checked out your site. Really nice!

Bill

Bill, I would like the name of the company. I would like to make some

body and linen sprays. Thanks.

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Yes. As far I know. I checked with NY Liquor auth. back when I was purchasing

the grain alcohol from a company in CT. You can not resell the alcohol in it's

present form, but once it is incorporated as a componet of something, no

problem.

You wouldn't use the name Everclear for labeling. That's the brand name of the

alcohol. I think you would have to use the chemical name or just alcohol,

depending on how technical you wanted to be. Some list it only by the (INCI?)

name. I figure if Avon can get away with not using the technical names on the

labels of a lot of their products, we shouldn't have to much of a problem.

Bill

Thanks for the link to Everclear. Are you POSITIVE that we can sell

toiletries

using Everclear legally? If so, when you make labels for the

items....say body spray,

how do you label Everclear? This is all new to me because I thought it

was

illegal to have it shipped to us New Yorkers.

Re: Vodka question-Dee

Well I couldn't find it in my files. No surprise to me, but here is a

link to a place that sells the Everclear and will ship to you. It's not

leagal to purchase here but OK to buy on the net and have shipped. Go

figure. http://store./randslls/pa25994.html

I'll keep looking for the other also.

Checked out your site. Really nice!

Bill

Bill, I would like the name of the company. I would like to make some

body and linen sprays. Thanks.

Dee

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Bill

I'm glad to hear that the radiation seeds procedure was available where

you are

like my father had. Just keep telling yourself " it worked for 's

Dad and it's

going to work for me. " From what I've heard since my father had it

done, they've

had GREAT success with it. Don't push yourself physically and give

yourself

permission to rest, rest, rest!!! And don't beat yourself up over the

insurance issue.

As long as you are attempting to make minimal payments on bills, they

can't harass

you. You'll get through it. Believe me.

Bless you

RE: OT-Cancer- & All

Thanks all for your thoughts.

That's the same treatment I'll be starting Friday. Last November when I

left my full time job, I decided to not continue the health ins. Never

needed it before. Guess that wasn't too smart, but I started planing

yesterday on ways to gear up for this and today they start. I'm out of

here for now, to get it going, and hopefully it's onward and upward!

Bill

he's doing great. His treatment involved having radiation seeds

> implanted where

> the cancer was.

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Hi Bill:

As far as Anti-Anxiety meds i have taken Lorazepam it is very good but also is highly addictive, Then everytime i didn't take the med after a while i would get the same anxious feeling so the doc put me on Clonazepam which is generic version of Clonopin and i still take that and never got addicted to it and i swear by it. Good luck. As far as burning sensation it coulc just be anxiety or have your eps check your leads if you are getting paced often. But i think it is anxiety. Good luck. TURK

Bill

Bill, I highly recommend getting some anti-anxiety medication, like Lorazepam. Taking one when you're feeling very anxious, and just knowing that you have it and can take it if you want to, was very helpful to me, and still is although I've had an ICD for 5-1/2 years.janet_________________________________________________________________MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virusPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

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Hi Shaye,

Yes I could.

Bill, Could you use a couple big bags of packing peanuts? LMK if you can,

> otherwize they are getting tossed.

>

> Thx

> Shaye

>

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Hey Bill

Thanks for the info. I'd never been to either one of those sites

before......interesting!!

I got looking around The Chemistry Store site and came across what

sounds like the same

product (F/O Modifier) as WSP offers. It's a lot cheaper, though. I

think I'd like to try that product

because then I could use MANY of my f/o's and not have to buy " special "

f/o's for water based

recipes. Now here's another question. On their site they offer SD 40 for

perfume/cologne blending. It's been

a long time since our group discussed this subject of making perfumes or

colognes. I can't remember

exactly what it was that was always needed to make colognes but I know

it was SOME kind of alcohol

that us NYer's couldn't get. People were always saying to use vodka in

place of it but I don't think that that's legal either.

Is it SD 40 that we can't get in NY or am I thinking of something else?

If it is SD 40 and since this company sells it, does that mean that we

can have it shipped to us in NY? Comments from anyone else besides

just Bill would be greatly appreciated!!

Re: Question time

Hi ,

Don't know about the ingredient to make the fo's mix, but here are two

links to sites that carry the water based fragrances, if it will help.

www.duckiescrafts.com/waterbasedfragrance.htm

www.chemistrystore.com/Soapscents.htm

They should work if you type em in just like they are. If not let me

know, and I'll have some more coffee before I try and think again.

Bill

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Hey Bill

Well, most of the time my friends or daughter sends them to me. I don't

have time to play around on the internet for jokes, if you know what I

mean. So I only forward on the ones that I find amusing. I sent the Tide

one on to my husband at work and warned him that if he saw me come in

the house with a box of Tide to run for the hills. (hehe)

Re:Words Women Use -

Hey ,

That's good. I liked the tide one too.

Where do you find em?

Bill

To all the men on our list.....keep for future reference (hehe)

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