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About the thumbs . . . I have every gadget imaginable to open things but as

my thumb joints come further apart I've been told of the tendon transplant

option for the future . . . I just say I'm goona have bionic thumbs! Hee hee

My

boyfriend says he can't wait to hear that sound when I do things . . . gotta

love him!

Glad your worked out for you. : )

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Stan,

I'm speaking as a certified massage therapist, not an MD. :-) The rule of

thumb (pun intended) is if there is inflammation present, use ice not heat.

However, since RA is CHRONIC inflammation condition, if heat feels good I

say use heat. I use heat. I have a paraffin bath and I put Biofreeze on my

hands after work and dip them in the nice hot paraffin. Ahhhh. Bliss.

G.

Tennessee, also wet and gray these days

One of the things I have discovered quite accidently living in Seattle,

which is terribly cold, but when the temprature falls to around fifty

degrees I wear gloves when I go out. Keeping my hands warm or at least not

letting them get really cold seems to help throughout the day. Now I've been

told from more than one source that heat and RA are not good and to avoid

it. Well, I don't avoid it, I use it and it seems to help and it feels good.

I also use an ice pack on occassion when I'm having and acute episode and it

seems to help but it doesn't feel good. Like you, I have issues with my

thumbs and fore fingers so just last week I specifically asked my

Rheumatologist what to do about it. She said to ignore it, it will go away!

I think every Reumatologist should have RA for day, not the bad stuff, just

the daily crap we have to put up with every day. Attitudes would change!

Stan

Seattle, Gray and Wet

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Oh, that's too cute... Just ignore it and it will go away... She

must be from another planet.

Well, on one hand if its a flare of your RA, it should go away

eventually. In the meantime though you need to do something so the

pain/damage doesn't get worse. There are thumb braces for thumbs, if

you ask for a brace for de Quervain's tendonitis, those will help.

de Quervain's is tendonitis of the thumb. Those braces will hold the

thumb in a neutral position and realy help with the pain. The

moldable braces already discussed are probably a version of these, a

phyiscal therapist can make a pair for you. I find that ice helps

more than heat on my hands, sometimes I alternate ice and heat. Ice

gets the swelling down, heat helps with the pain. Depending on how

long you have had the pain there are also two other options. A

steriod shot into the tendon sheath or joint, or surgery to clean up

the area.

I am feeling you pain right now, my de quervains is acting up. I see

my Rheumy next week and get my Remicade too. I'll keep my remaining

fingers crossed for you.

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I like that, a neutral position. I think many of us spend a great deal of time

during the seeking that neutral position with or without braces. When you're

having a flare that neutral position is a primary interest and when you're

sleeping that neutral position is paramount. When I'm having a bad day and I

finally find that neutral position it's wonderful, except the giant blue cloud

looming overhead representing the fact that eventually I am going to have to

move again and my sweet pain-free neutral position will be lost for all time.

There should be a Neutral Position Index by god! We can't live like turtles, we

have things to do. I've often thought as I sit there in a neutral position that

Rheumatoid Arthritis would be a piece of cake if I never had to move a muscle

again (is there a way to do that?). And I have replied to people who have asked

what Rheumatoid Arthritis is like, " it's great if you don't have to move. " And

it just occurred to me that a neutral position would be

of great benefit to many areas of the world right now. We're on to something!

Stan,

Seattle, Gray and Grayer

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Eeeeeeeech! You touch people! And I had to look up what a hot paraffin was, god

I hate learning new things. Being a veteran of lower back pain I reluctantly

learned the benefits of ice packs and 'till this day have a difficult time

convincing people to try it, just once, knowing the results and benefits can be

enormous. Actually, now that I think about it, it was someone like you with

your skills that first forced me to try it. Now I always have a couple of ice

packs in the freezer on the stand by. So I am going to look into Biofreeze and

perhaps try it, but something in the back of my mind tells me I'm gonna hate it!

Having a certified massage therapist here is what makes this Group great. But

more importantly, it counter balances having people like me here!

Stan,

Seattle, Gray and Grayer

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " ldydewinter " <ldydewinter@...>

Stan,

I'm speaking as a certified massage therapist, not an MD. :-) The rule of

thumb (pun intended) is if there is inflammation present, use ice not heat.

However, since RA is CHRONIC inflammation condition, if heat feels good I

say use heat. I use heat. I have a paraffin bath and I put Biofreeze on my

hands after work and dip them in the nice hot paraffin. Ahhhh. Bliss.

G.

Tennessee, also wet and gray these days

One of the things I have discovered quite accidently living in Seattle,

which is terribly cold, but when the temprature falls to around fifty

degrees I wear gloves when I go out. Keeping my hands warm or at least not

letting them get really cold seems to help throughout the day. Now I've been

told from more than one source that heat and RA are not good and to avoid

it. Well, I don't avoid it, I use it and it seems to help and it feels good.

I also use an ice pack on occassion when I'm having and acute episode and it

seems to help but it doesn't feel good. Like you, I have issues with my

thumbs and fore fingers so just last week I specifically asked my

Rheumatologist what to do about it. She said to ignore it, it will go away!

I think every Reumatologist should have RA for day, not the bad stuff, just

the daily crap we have to put up with every day. Attitudes would change!

Stan

Seattle, Gray and Wet

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Biofreeze is awesome......you are in for a treat..

Raniolo

From: stanpfister@... <stanpfister@...>

Subject: RE: [ ] thumbs

Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 4:07 PM

Eeeeeeeech! You touch people! And I had to look up what a hot paraffin was, god

I hate learning new things. Being a veteran of lower back pain I reluctantly

learned the benefits of ice packs and 'till this day have a difficult time

convincing people to try it, just once, knowing the results and benefits can be

enormous. Actually, now that I think about it, it was someone like you with your

skills that first forced me to try it. Now I always have a couple of ice packs

in the freezer on the stand by. So I am going to look into Biofreeze and perhaps

try it, but something in the back of my mind tells me I'm gonna hate it! Having

a certified massage therapist here is what makes this Group great. But more

importantly, it counter balances having people like me here!

Stan,

Seattle, Gray and Grayer

------------ -- Original message ------------ --

From: " ldydewinter " <ldydewinter@ comcast.net>

Stan,

I'm speaking as a certified massage therapist, not an MD. :-) The rule of

thumb (pun intended) is if there is inflammation present, use ice not heat.

However, since RA is CHRONIC inflammation condition, if heat feels good I

say use heat. I use heat. I have a paraffin bath and I put Biofreeze on my

hands after work and dip them in the nice hot paraffin. Ahhhh. Bliss.

G.

Tennessee, also wet and gray these days

One of the things I have discovered quite accidently living in Seattle,

which is terribly cold, but when the temprature falls to around fifty

degrees I wear gloves when I go out. Keeping my hands warm or at least not

letting them get really cold seems to help throughout the day. Now I've been

told from more than one source that heat and RA are not good and to avoid

it. Well, I don't avoid it, I use it and it seems to help and it feels good.

I also use an ice pack on occassion when I'm having and acute episode and it

seems to help but it doesn't feel good. Like you, I have issues with my

thumbs and fore fingers so just last week I specifically asked my

Rheumatologist what to do about it. She said to ignore it, it will go away!

I think every Reumatologist should have RA for day, not the bad stuff, just

the daily crap we have to put up with every day. Attitudes would change!

Stan

Seattle, Gray and Wet

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Well now I am really going to have to try it! Thanks.

Stan

Seattle, Dark

--------- RE: [ ] thumbs

Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 4:07 PM

Eeeeeeeech! You touch people! And I had to look up what a hot paraffin was, god

I hate learning new things. Being a veteran of lower back pain I reluctantly

learned the benefits of ice packs and 'till this day have a difficult time

convincing people to try it, just once, knowing the results and benefits can be

enormous. Actually, now that I think about it, it was someone like you with your

skills that first forced me to try it. Now I always have a couple of ice packs

in the freezer on the stand by. So I am going to look into Biofreeze and perhaps

try it, but something in the back of my mind tells me I'm gonna hate it! Having

a certified massage therapist here is what makes this Group great. But more

importantly, it counter balances having people like me here!

Stan,

Seattle, Gray and Grayer

------------ -- Original message ------------ --

From: " ldydewinter " <ldydewinter@ comcast.net>

Stan,

I'm speaking as a certified massage therapist, not an MD. :-) The rule of

thumb (pun intended) is if there is inflammation present, use ice not heat.

However, since RA is CHRONIC inflammation condition, if heat feels good I

say use heat. I use heat. I have a paraffin bath and I put Biofreeze on my

hands after work and dip them in the nice hot paraffin. Ahhhh. Bliss.

G.

Tennessee, also wet and gray these days

One of the things I have discovered quite accidently living in Seattle,

which is terribly cold, but when the temprature falls to around fifty

degrees I wear gloves when I go out. Keeping my hands warm or at least not

letting them get really cold seems to help throughout the day. Now I've been

told from more than one source that heat and RA are not good and to avoid

it. Well, I don't avoid it, I use it and it seems to help and it feels good.

I also use an ice pack on occassion when I'm having and acute episode and it

seems to help but it doesn't feel good. Like you, I have issues with my

thumbs and fore fingers so just last week I specifically asked my

Rheumatologist what to do about it. She said to ignore it, it will go away!

I think every Reumatologist should have RA for day, not the bad stuff, just

the daily crap we have to put up with every day. Attitudes would change!

Stan

Seattle, Gray and Wet

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