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Hi Kim,

Have you ever used colostrum? Have you ever heard of the silver/aloe protocol?

I'm currently on the silver/aloe protocol to rebuild my epithelial lining of my

intestines as they were harmed by all the vaccines, drugs/antibiotics and

nutritionally deficient foods the army could throw at me. I have been on it for

9 weeks now and have improvement in my digestion.

I read several years about colostrum and the great job it does on repairing the

damage to the digestive tract and kicking the healing into high gear. I finally

found a source of quality colostrum that has certification that it is the only

colostrum on the market that meets the true colostrum criteria. All the others

are just transitional milk.

I just received my first order and am looking forward to kicking my healing and

detoxing i to high gear. The company has testimonials on it where a man with

serious intestinal issues had a 3% chance of living. He decided to try

colostrum and a tually had to sneak it into the hospital. He was actually able

to reverse his colostomy afterwards. That is amazing as I have never heard of

that being reversed.

There are probiotics and prebiotics and pretty much is a replacement immune

system.

Al

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new information!!!!

I was born vaginally, as was my brother.

My issues with my gut and IBS stem from being ill as a child, and being put on

anti-biotics for EVERYTHING until they figured out I had allergies, and even

then, I was usually on an anti-biotice ever 4 to 6 months for something....

I'm 47 now. I fell in 2002; and broke my left leg..and amputated my left foot

from my leg whane I fell. It was a life changing, freak accident; the dr's

called it 'catastrophic'; I was rished to the hospital, and I was put back

together...literally; I am a walking miracle...the orthopedist STILL tells my

story to people who are trying to work themselves into a bad spot about having a

broken leg or foot; He'll say " You think this is bad? Let me tell you about

another paitient of mine.... " ...

I was walking 6 months after the accident...my left leg is shorter than my right

one by about 1/4 to 2/3 of an inch ( the heel slopes UP towards the calf of my

leg) but I *DO* have both feets..and I walk with a cane, but I *AM* walking..*S*

While I was in the hospital and a nursing care facility afterwards, I was on

massive massive doses of antibiotics because it was a large open wound and they

didn't weant infection setting in; that totally screwed with my gut....I was in

really bbaadd shape GI-wise for quite awhile; that is what really triggered the

Fibro ( which I now realize I had for YEARS but had never been diagnosed) and

the IBS...it took me about 6 months after I was up and walking to make the

connection between the IBS/Fibro really coming into my life and the

anti-biotics...and I started doing the research needed and the life changes

needed to improve my quality of life.

I've finally gotten tot he poihnt of knowing what I need, and waht foods to not

eat and which ones to, which supplements help, which ones won't...

I have always loved cheeses and yogurt; and have been eating cheese for all of

my life so far, added in yogurt on a regular basis; tried Activia, but I can't

handle the artificial colors or sweetner in it, so I had to go back to plain

yogurt when I could find it...and try finding yogurt that is NOT Low-fat on

non-fat!

I can't tell people how much I MISSED having yogurt that was thick (like Greek

yogurt is) made from raw, whole goats milk...and were we lived at the time, In

MO, well, the goat producers have been trying for over 20 years to get goats

milk mainstreamed into the dairy market, and the Ag dept there is still

stonewalling htem, so finding goats milk from a reputable person who actually

handled the milk correctly was a crap shoot, and I REALLY did not want to put my

poor GI tract through any more distress than it was already going through by

dealing with poorly handled milk.

Finding out about the kefir excited me...and now, knowing that I am making and

drinking a product that has so many more benefical strains of bacteria than even

my beloved yogurt, that is just a bonus, in my opinion.

Nw, I know that kefir is not a 'cure all'; however, I CAN tell others that it

has improved my GI tract and my stomach issues, and for me, thats a big issue.

I am not one of those who will tell someone to 'ignore' certain aspects of their

life they have to know about for thier own good health; most of us on this list

are not physicians or osteopaths, so its not within our realm of knowledge to

tell someone to count or discount something that they know they must keep track

of.

In fact, when I talk about what I am doing with other people, and they are

interested in trying something I have done, I tell them to start out slow and in

small amounts...because ANYTHING we put into our bodies affects each of us

differently, and food IS medicine, no matter how you look at it.

Last night, I had a case of the hiccups..and when I get the hiccups, I SHAKE the

entire chair/couch/bed...my mom used to think I was faking it until she

witnessed me just SUDDENLY have a hiccup fit one time and I was not stressed out

in any way.....I had not really seriously drank my kefir yesterday morning...I

had drank regualr milk and then had a little kefir after breakfast...I thought "

Oh, I have gas " ..and tried drinking a soda to help myself burp; the hiccups went

away for a little while...but came bgack, harder than before...so I went and got

out my kefir and downed half a quart around noon...and that took care of the

hiccups...and that told me I had an acid/alkaline imbalance going on...and that

I had better stick with my kefir from now on at least twice a day..*S*

This is just my 2 cents worth...and I know its long...now, I have to get ready

for a dr's app't -- Kim in TX

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Hi Kim,

May I ask why you are opposed to Aloe vera?

The reason for the aloe with the silver is to get the silver past the stomach

and into the intestines where is needs to do it's job. Otherwise, aloe is very

healthy for you.

Al

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anti-biotics for EVERYTHING until they figured out I had allergies, and even

then, I was usually on an anti-biotice ever 4 to 6 months for something....

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from my leg whane I fell. It was a life changing, freak accident; the dr's

called it 'catastrophic'; I was rished to the hospital, and I was put back

together...literally; I am a walking miracle...the orthopedist STILL tells my

story to people who are trying to work themselves into a bad spot about having a

broken leg or foot; He'll say " You think this is bad? Let me tell you about

another paitient of mine.... " ...

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right one by about 1/4 to 2/3 of an inch ( the heel slopes UP towards the calf

of my leg) but I *DO* have both feets..and I walk with a cane, but I *AM*

walking..*S*

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> While I was in the hospital and a nursing care facility afterwards, I was on

massive massive doses of antibiotics because it was a large open wound and they

didn't weant infection setting in; that totally screwed with my gut....I was in

really bbaadd shape GI-wise for quite awhile; that is what really triggered the

Fibro ( which I now realize I had for YEARS but had never been diagnosed) and

the IBS...it took me about 6 months after I was up and walking to make the

connection between the IBS/Fibro really coming into my life and the

anti-biotics...and I started doing the research needed and the life changes

needed to improve my quality of life.

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not eat and which ones to, which supplements help, which ones won't...

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my life so far, added in yogurt on a regular basis; tried Activia, but I can't

handle the artificial colors or sweetner in it, so I had to go back to plain

yogurt when I could find it...and try finding yogurt that is NOT Low-fat on

non-fat!

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> I can't tell people how much I MISSED having yogurt that was thick (like Greek

yogurt is) made from raw, whole goats milk...and were we lived at the time, In

MO, well, the goat producers have been trying for over 20 years to get goats

milk mainstreamed into the dairy market, and the Ag dept there is still

stonewalling htem, so finding goats milk from a reputable person who actually

handled the milk correctly was a crap shoot, and I REALLY did not want to put my

poor GI tract through any more distress than it was already going through by

dealing with poorly handled milk.

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drinking a product that has so many more benefical strains of bacteria than even

my beloved yogurt, that is just a bonus, in my opinion.

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> Nw, I know that kefir is not a 'cure all'; however, I CAN tell others that it

has improved my GI tract and my stomach issues, and for me, thats a big issue.

I am not one of those who will tell someone to 'ignore' certain aspects of their

life they have to know about for thier own good health; most of us on this list

are not physicians or osteopaths, so its not within our realm of knowledge to

tell someone to count or discount something that they know they must keep track

of.

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> In fact, when I talk about what I am doing with other people, and they are

interested in trying something I have done, I tell them to start out slow and in

small amounts...because ANYTHING we put into our bodies affects each of us

differently, and food IS medicine, no matter how you look at it.

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> Last night, I had a case of the hiccups..and when I get the hiccups, I SHAKE

the entire chair/couch/bed...my mom used to think I was faking it until she

witnessed me just SUDDENLY have a hiccup fit one time and I was not stressed out

in any way.....I had not really seriously drank my kefir yesterday morning...I

had drank regualr milk and then had a little kefir after breakfast...I thought "

Oh, I have gas " ..and tried drinking a soda to help myself burp; the hiccups went

away for a little while...but came bgack, harder than before...so I went and got

out my kefir and downed half a quart around noon...and that took care of the

hiccups...and that told me I had an acid/alkaline imbalance going on...and that

I had better stick with my kefir from now on at least twice a day..*S*

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for a dr's app't -- Kim in TX

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Hi Dawn,

I was drinking after 1hr of consuming kefir but I was told that even though the

silver was probably 100 % absorbed at that time, they were probably

counteracting one another in my gut.  So I was told to only consume kefir at

night before going to bed.  I just hope I did not waste 12 weeks of silver aloe

protocol.  Now that I stopped the silver...not because my body was ready but

because I couldnot afford another 4 weeks...I'm trying to bump up my kefir

intake tl 2-3 times a day and taking my Dr. Ohhira's probiotics in the morning 1

hr before breakfast and at bedtime. 

Then I'm taking to colostrum, packed in my gums, at night before I go to bed.

But lately I keep forgetting. I want to do colostrum twice a day but my

schedule is crazy right now.

Al

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Hi Al,

I was wondering if you were still drinking your kefir while you were on the

silver/aloe protocol and if so did you drink it at a certain time. Thanks

Dawn

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> Have you ever used colostrum? Have you ever heard of the silver/aloe

protocol? I'm currently on the silver/aloe protocol to rebuild my epithelial

lining of my intestines as they were harmed by all the vaccines,

drugs/antibiotics and nutritionally deficient foods the army could throw at me.

I have been on it for 9 weeks now and have improvement in my digestion.

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alicia, do you know how to make colloidal silver?

if not, would you like to know a simple method?

Love,

" What is real and what is not the child once knew but he's forgot "

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the silver was probably 100 % absorbed at that time, they were probably

counteracting one another in my gut. So I was told to only consume kefir at

night before going to bed. I just hope I did not waste 12 weeks of silver aloe

protocol. Now that I stopped the silver...not because my body was ready but

because I couldnot afford another 4 weeks...I'm trying to bump up my kefir

intake tl 2-3 times a day and taking my Dr. Ohhira's probiotics in the morning 1

hr before breakfast and at bedtime.

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> Then I'm taking to colostrum, packed in my gums, at night before I go to bed.

But lately I keep forgetting. I want to do colostrum twice a day but my schedule

is crazy right now.

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> Al

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silver/aloe protocol and if so did you drink it at a certain time. Thanks

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protocol? I'm currently on the silver/aloe protocol to rebuild my epithelial

lining of my intestines as they were harmed by all the vaccines,

drugs/antibiotics and nutritionally deficient foods the army could throw at me.

I have been on it for 9 weeks now and have improvement in my digestion.

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I was

using a professional formula Sovereign Silver that has standard sized

particles. Be careful in using the silver generators as the particle

size may vary and never, never use salt in the processing of the silver.

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I stopped taking the silver I'm working on rebuilding my gut flora. I

am taking Dr. Ohhira's Probiotics and drinking kefir. I am still a

little slow on my digestion because I always have trouble absorbing the

water I drink. I just got a Quantum Age Stir Wand that increases the

absorbtion of the fluids I drink. I will also be getting Homeopathic

Aquaflora Enzyme Restoration and Probiotic Restoration. This teaches

the body how to make its own probiotics and enzymes like it used to when

we were younger.

So I am still transitioning.Al

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Thanks Al, I think I am going to give this a go.I have a machine(silver puppy)

that makes really good colloidal silver.Haven't used it in quite some time.Did

you feel worse when you stopped taking the silver/aloe even though you bumped up

your kefir? Thanks for the info

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Great post Carol,

Another thing to consider that can reduce inflammation all over the body,

especially the gut (my mother-in-law has Crohns and she swears by it) is Organic

White Tea. I get it at the local food coop in the 100 tea bag box. She swears

that she feels so much better and she does not drink any kefir...I'm working on

that though.

Al

Re: Wow, Wow, Wow!!! Crohn's Disease and microbes

new information!!!!

Many here suggest that kefir may help people with Crohn's disease (and other

inflammatory bowl syndromes). To understand its effect we need to better

understand the basis for Crohn's Disease .

The gut hosts trillions of bacteria which cause no reaction. These so called

commensal bacteria are harmless, and play an vital role in food digestion,

production of micronutrients, and maintenance of a healthy immune system. In

fact it is estimated that the number of bacteria in the human gut is 10 TIMES

higher than actual human cells, thus, making us more bacteria than human!

So what goes wrong in Crohn's disease?

The truth is that no one really knows, but some clues do exist. For example, an

acute injury to the gut lining can cause a sever form of inflammation in animal

models of the disease. It is believed that a breaking of the gut lining leads to

a rapid invasion of these otherwise harmless bacteria, which lead to an immune

activation. Normally, these bacteria are sequestered outside our body (in our

gut), but once they invade our body the immune system reacts (as it should!). In

most people these acute injuries are resolved quickly, but in some individuals

chronic activation may occur. This leads to chronic inflammation and autoimmune

attack on the gut leading to Crohn's disease.

So how may kefir help? Good question.

If bacteria are the source of the disease, introducing new bacteria may be the

answer. By consuming kefir, we can change the gut flora (or bacterial

composition) in the gut. New evidence suggest that the beneficial effects of

kefir are even more profound that initially thought. In a recent report an

Argentinian group demonstrated that yogurt (kefir) can induce immune tolerance

and resolve gut inflammation in mice. Immune tolerance is a process of immune

" reeducation " , whereby " bad " immune cells learn to live again with our body.

This tolerance can potentially resolve gut inflammation altogether, but it

requires perseverance and time.

I hope this is not too lengthily, but I thought that sharing this info may

explain some of the discussion in this wonderful thread.

Feedback would be greatly appreciated!

All the best!

Carol

eakirav.tripod.com

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What's great about the White Tea as opposed to the Green Tea is that is has less

caffein.

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commensal bacteria are harmless, and play an vital role in food digestion,

production of micronutrients, and maintenance of a healthy immune system. In

fact it is estimated that the number of bacteria in the human gut is 10 TIMES

higher than actual human cells, thus, making us more bacteria than human!

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> The truth is that no one really knows, but some clues do exist. For example,

an acute injury to the gut lining can cause a sever form of inflammation in

animal models of the disease. It is believed that a breaking of the gut lining

leads to a rapid invasion of these otherwise harmless bacteria, which lead to an

immune activation. Normally, these bacteria are sequestered outside our body (in

our gut), but once they invade our body the immune system reacts (as it

should!). In most people these acute injuries are resolved quickly, but in some

individuals chronic activation may occur. This leads to chronic inflammation and

autoimmune attack on the gut leading to Crohn's disease.

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> So how may kefir help? Good question.

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> If bacteria are the source of the disease, introducing new bacteria may be the

answer. By consuming kefir, we can change the gut flora (or bacterial

composition) in the gut. New evidence suggest that the beneficial effects of

kefir are even more profound that initially thought. In a recent report an

Argentinian group demonstrated that yogurt (kefir) can induce immune tolerance

and resolve gut inflammation in mice. Immune tolerance is a process of immune

" reeducation " , whereby " bad " immune cells learn to live again with our body.

This tolerance can potentially resolve gut inflammation altogether, but it

requires perseverance and time.

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explain some of the discussion in this wonderful thread.

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