Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Hi Kim, Have you ever used colostrum? Have you ever heard of the silver/aloe protocol? I'm currently on the silver/aloe protocol to rebuild my epithelial lining of my intestines as they were harmed by all the vaccines, drugs/antibiotics and nutritionally deficient foods the army could throw at me. I have been on it for 9 weeks now and have improvement in my digestion. I read several years about colostrum and the great job it does on repairing the damage to the digestive tract and kicking the healing into high gear. I finally found a source of quality colostrum that has certification that it is the only colostrum on the market that meets the true colostrum criteria. All the others are just transitional milk. I just received my first order and am looking forward to kicking my healing and detoxing i to high gear. The company has testimonials on it where a man with serious intestinal issues had a 3% chance of living. He decided to try colostrum and a tually had to sneak it into the hospital. He was actually able to reverse his colostomy afterwards. That is amazing as I have never heard of that being reversed. There are probiotics and prebiotics and pretty much is a replacement immune system. Al Re: Wow, Wow, Wow!!! Crohn's Disease and microbes new information!!!! I was born vaginally, as was my brother. My issues with my gut and IBS stem from being ill as a child, and being put on anti-biotics for EVERYTHING until they figured out I had allergies, and even then, I was usually on an anti-biotice ever 4 to 6 months for something.... I'm 47 now. I fell in 2002; and broke my left leg..and amputated my left foot from my leg whane I fell. It was a life changing, freak accident; the dr's called it 'catastrophic'; I was rished to the hospital, and I was put back together...literally; I am a walking miracle...the orthopedist STILL tells my story to people who are trying to work themselves into a bad spot about having a broken leg or foot; He'll say " You think this is bad? Let me tell you about another paitient of mine.... " ... I was walking 6 months after the accident...my left leg is shorter than my right one by about 1/4 to 2/3 of an inch ( the heel slopes UP towards the calf of my leg) but I *DO* have both feets..and I walk with a cane, but I *AM* walking..*S* While I was in the hospital and a nursing care facility afterwards, I was on massive massive doses of antibiotics because it was a large open wound and they didn't weant infection setting in; that totally screwed with my gut....I was in really bbaadd shape GI-wise for quite awhile; that is what really triggered the Fibro ( which I now realize I had for YEARS but had never been diagnosed) and the IBS...it took me about 6 months after I was up and walking to make the connection between the IBS/Fibro really coming into my life and the anti-biotics...and I started doing the research needed and the life changes needed to improve my quality of life. I've finally gotten tot he poihnt of knowing what I need, and waht foods to not eat and which ones to, which supplements help, which ones won't... I have always loved cheeses and yogurt; and have been eating cheese for all of my life so far, added in yogurt on a regular basis; tried Activia, but I can't handle the artificial colors or sweetner in it, so I had to go back to plain yogurt when I could find it...and try finding yogurt that is NOT Low-fat on non-fat! I can't tell people how much I MISSED having yogurt that was thick (like Greek yogurt is) made from raw, whole goats milk...and were we lived at the time, In MO, well, the goat producers have been trying for over 20 years to get goats milk mainstreamed into the dairy market, and the Ag dept there is still stonewalling htem, so finding goats milk from a reputable person who actually handled the milk correctly was a crap shoot, and I REALLY did not want to put my poor GI tract through any more distress than it was already going through by dealing with poorly handled milk. Finding out about the kefir excited me...and now, knowing that I am making and drinking a product that has so many more benefical strains of bacteria than even my beloved yogurt, that is just a bonus, in my opinion. Nw, I know that kefir is not a 'cure all'; however, I CAN tell others that it has improved my GI tract and my stomach issues, and for me, thats a big issue. I am not one of those who will tell someone to 'ignore' certain aspects of their life they have to know about for thier own good health; most of us on this list are not physicians or osteopaths, so its not within our realm of knowledge to tell someone to count or discount something that they know they must keep track of. In fact, when I talk about what I am doing with other people, and they are interested in trying something I have done, I tell them to start out slow and in small amounts...because ANYTHING we put into our bodies affects each of us differently, and food IS medicine, no matter how you look at it. Last night, I had a case of the hiccups..and when I get the hiccups, I SHAKE the entire chair/couch/bed...my mom used to think I was faking it until she witnessed me just SUDDENLY have a hiccup fit one time and I was not stressed out in any way.....I had not really seriously drank my kefir yesterday morning...I had drank regualr milk and then had a little kefir after breakfast...I thought " Oh, I have gas " ..and tried drinking a soda to help myself burp; the hiccups went away for a little while...but came bgack, harder than before...so I went and got out my kefir and downed half a quart around noon...and that took care of the hiccups...and that told me I had an acid/alkaline imbalance going on...and that I had better stick with my kefir from now on at least twice a day..*S* This is just my 2 cents worth...and I know its long...now, I have to get ready for a dr's app't -- Kim in TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi Kim, May I ask why you are opposed to Aloe vera? The reason for the aloe with the silver is to get the silver past the stomach and into the intestines where is needs to do it's job. Otherwise, aloe is very healthy for you. Al Re: Wow, Wow, Wow!!! Crohn's Disease and microbes new information!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was born vaginally, as was my brother. > > > > My issues with my gut and IBS stem from being ill as a child, and being put on anti-biotics for EVERYTHING until they figured out I had allergies, and even then, I was usually on an anti-biotice ever 4 to 6 months for something.... > > > > I'm 47 now. I fell in 2002; and broke my left leg..and amputated my left foot from my leg whane I fell. It was a life changing, freak accident; the dr's called it 'catastrophic'; I was rished to the hospital, and I was put back together...literally; I am a walking miracle...the orthopedist STILL tells my story to people who are trying to work themselves into a bad spot about having a broken leg or foot; He'll say " You think this is bad? Let me tell you about another paitient of mine.... " ... > > > > I was walking 6 months after the accident...my left leg is shorter than my right one by about 1/4 to 2/3 of an inch ( the heel slopes UP towards the calf of my leg) but I *DO* have both feets..and I walk with a cane, but I *AM* walking..*S* > > > > While I was in the hospital and a nursing care facility afterwards, I was on massive massive doses of antibiotics because it was a large open wound and they didn't weant infection setting in; that totally screwed with my gut....I was in really bbaadd shape GI-wise for quite awhile; that is what really triggered the Fibro ( which I now realize I had for YEARS but had never been diagnosed) and the IBS...it took me about 6 months after I was up and walking to make the connection between the IBS/Fibro really coming into my life and the anti-biotics...and I started doing the research needed and the life changes needed to improve my quality of life. > > > > I've finally gotten tot he poihnt of knowing what I need, and waht foods to not eat and which ones to, which supplements help, which ones won't... > > > > I have always loved cheeses and yogurt; and have been eating cheese for all of my life so far, added in yogurt on a regular basis; tried Activia, but I can't handle the artificial colors or sweetner in it, so I had to go back to plain yogurt when I could find it...and try finding yogurt that is NOT Low-fat on non-fat! > > > > I can't tell people how much I MISSED having yogurt that was thick (like Greek yogurt is) made from raw, whole goats milk...and were we lived at the time, In MO, well, the goat producers have been trying for over 20 years to get goats milk mainstreamed into the dairy market, and the Ag dept there is still stonewalling htem, so finding goats milk from a reputable person who actually handled the milk correctly was a crap shoot, and I REALLY did not want to put my poor GI tract through any more distress than it was already going through by dealing with poorly handled milk. > > > > Finding out about the kefir excited me...and now, knowing that I am making and drinking a product that has so many more benefical strains of bacteria than even my beloved yogurt, that is just a bonus, in my opinion. > > > > Nw, I know that kefir is not a 'cure all'; however, I CAN tell others that it has improved my GI tract and my stomach issues, and for me, thats a big issue. I am not one of those who will tell someone to 'ignore' certain aspects of their life they have to know about for thier own good health; most of us on this list are not physicians or osteopaths, so its not within our realm of knowledge to tell someone to count or discount something that they know they must keep track of. > > > > In fact, when I talk about what I am doing with other people, and they are interested in trying something I have done, I tell them to start out slow and in small amounts...because ANYTHING we put into our bodies affects each of us differently, and food IS medicine, no matter how you look at it. > > > > Last night, I had a case of the hiccups..and when I get the hiccups, I SHAKE the entire chair/couch/bed...my mom used to think I was faking it until she witnessed me just SUDDENLY have a hiccup fit one time and I was not stressed out in any way.....I had not really seriously drank my kefir yesterday morning...I had drank regualr milk and then had a little kefir after breakfast...I thought " Oh, I have gas " ..and tried drinking a soda to help myself burp; the hiccups went away for a little while...but came bgack, harder than before...so I went and got out my kefir and downed half a quart around noon...and that took care of the hiccups...and that told me I had an acid/alkaline imbalance going on...and that I had better stick with my kefir from now on at least twice a day..*S* > > > > This is just my 2 cents worth...and I know its long...now, I have to get ready for a dr's app't -- Kim in TX > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Hi Dawn, I was drinking after 1hr of consuming kefir but I was told that even though the silver was probably 100 % absorbed at that time, they were probably counteracting one another in my gut.  So I was told to only consume kefir at night before going to bed.  I just hope I did not waste 12 weeks of silver aloe protocol.  Now that I stopped the silver...not because my body was ready but because I couldnot afford another 4 weeks...I'm trying to bump up my kefir intake tl 2-3 times a day and taking my Dr. Ohhira's probiotics in the morning 1 hr before breakfast and at bedtime. Then I'm taking to colostrum, packed in my gums, at night before I go to bed. But lately I keep forgetting. I want to do colostrum twice a day but my schedule is crazy right now. Al Re: Wow, Wow, Wow!!! Crohn's Disease and microbes new information!!!! Hi Al, I was wondering if you were still drinking your kefir while you were on the silver/aloe protocol and if so did you drink it at a certain time. Thanks Dawn > > Hi Kim, > > Have you ever used colostrum? Have you ever heard of the silver/aloe protocol? I'm currently on the silver/aloe protocol to rebuild my epithelial lining of my intestines as they were harmed by all the vaccines, drugs/antibiotics and nutritionally deficient foods the army could throw at me. I have been on it for 9 weeks now and have improvement in my digestion. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 alicia, do you know how to make colloidal silver? if not, would you like to know a simple method? Love, " What is real and what is not the child once knew but he's forgot " On Mar 22, 2012, at 10:29 AM, ouched63188@... wrote: > > Hi Dawn, > > I was drinking after 1hr of consuming kefir but I was told that even though the silver was probably 100 % absorbed at that time, they were probably counteracting one another in my gut. So I was told to only consume kefir at night before going to bed. I just hope I did not waste 12 weeks of silver aloe protocol. Now that I stopped the silver...not because my body was ready but because I couldnot afford another 4 weeks...I'm trying to bump up my kefir intake tl 2-3 times a day and taking my Dr. Ohhira's probiotics in the morning 1 hr before breakfast and at bedtime. > > Then I'm taking to colostrum, packed in my gums, at night before I go to bed. But lately I keep forgetting. I want to do colostrum twice a day but my schedule is crazy right now. > > Al > > Re: Wow, Wow, Wow!!! Crohn's Disease and microbes new information!!!! > > Hi Al, > > I was wondering if you were still drinking your kefir while you were on the silver/aloe protocol and if so did you drink it at a certain time. Thanks > > Dawn > > > > > > > > Hi Kim, > > > > > > Have you ever used colostrum? Have you ever heard of the silver/aloe protocol? I'm currently on the silver/aloe protocol to rebuild my epithelial lining of my intestines as they were harmed by all the vaccines, drugs/antibiotics and nutritionally deficient foods the army could throw at me. I have been on it for 9 weeks now and have improvement in my digestion. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 I was using a professional formula Sovereign Silver that has standard sized particles. Be careful in using the silver generators as the particle size may vary and never, never use salt in the processing of the silver. When I stopped taking the silver I'm working on rebuilding my gut flora. I am taking Dr. Ohhira's Probiotics and drinking kefir. I am still a little slow on my digestion because I always have trouble absorbing the water I drink. I just got a Quantum Age Stir Wand that increases the absorbtion of the fluids I drink. I will also be getting Homeopathic Aquaflora Enzyme Restoration and Probiotic Restoration. This teaches the body how to make its own probiotics and enzymes like it used to when we were younger. So I am still transitioning.Al Re: Wow, Wow, Wow!!! Crohn's Disease and microbes new information!!!! Thanks Al, I think I am going to give this a go.I have a machine(silver puppy) that makes really good colloidal silver.Haven't used it in quite some time.Did you feel worse when you stopped taking the silver/aloe even though you bumped up your kefir? Thanks for the info Dawn > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Great post Carol, Another thing to consider that can reduce inflammation all over the body, especially the gut (my mother-in-law has Crohns and she swears by it) is Organic White Tea. I get it at the local food coop in the 100 tea bag box. She swears that she feels so much better and she does not drink any kefir...I'm working on that though. Al Re: Wow, Wow, Wow!!! Crohn's Disease and microbes new information!!!! Many here suggest that kefir may help people with Crohn's disease (and other inflammatory bowl syndromes). To understand its effect we need to better understand the basis for Crohn's Disease . The gut hosts trillions of bacteria which cause no reaction. These so called commensal bacteria are harmless, and play an vital role in food digestion, production of micronutrients, and maintenance of a healthy immune system. In fact it is estimated that the number of bacteria in the human gut is 10 TIMES higher than actual human cells, thus, making us more bacteria than human! So what goes wrong in Crohn's disease? The truth is that no one really knows, but some clues do exist. For example, an acute injury to the gut lining can cause a sever form of inflammation in animal models of the disease. It is believed that a breaking of the gut lining leads to a rapid invasion of these otherwise harmless bacteria, which lead to an immune activation. Normally, these bacteria are sequestered outside our body (in our gut), but once they invade our body the immune system reacts (as it should!). In most people these acute injuries are resolved quickly, but in some individuals chronic activation may occur. This leads to chronic inflammation and autoimmune attack on the gut leading to Crohn's disease. So how may kefir help? Good question. If bacteria are the source of the disease, introducing new bacteria may be the answer. By consuming kefir, we can change the gut flora (or bacterial composition) in the gut. New evidence suggest that the beneficial effects of kefir are even more profound that initially thought. In a recent report an Argentinian group demonstrated that yogurt (kefir) can induce immune tolerance and resolve gut inflammation in mice. Immune tolerance is a process of immune " reeducation " , whereby " bad " immune cells learn to live again with our body. This tolerance can potentially resolve gut inflammation altogether, but it requires perseverance and time. I hope this is not too lengthily, but I thought that sharing this info may explain some of the discussion in this wonderful thread. Feedback would be greatly appreciated! All the best! Carol eakirav.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 What's great about the White Tea as opposed to the Green Tea is that is has less caffein. Al Re: Wow, Wow, Wow!!! Crohn's Disease and microbes new information!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many here suggest that kefir may help people with Crohn's disease (and other inflammatory bowl syndromes). To understand its effect we need to better understand the basis for Crohn's Disease . > > > > The gut hosts trillions of bacteria which cause no reaction. These so called commensal bacteria are harmless, and play an vital role in food digestion, production of micronutrients, and maintenance of a healthy immune system. In fact it is estimated that the number of bacteria in the human gut is 10 TIMES higher than actual human cells, thus, making us more bacteria than human! > > > > So what goes wrong in Crohn's disease? > > The truth is that no one really knows, but some clues do exist. For example, an acute injury to the gut lining can cause a sever form of inflammation in animal models of the disease. It is believed that a breaking of the gut lining leads to a rapid invasion of these otherwise harmless bacteria, which lead to an immune activation. Normally, these bacteria are sequestered outside our body (in our gut), but once they invade our body the immune system reacts (as it should!). In most people these acute injuries are resolved quickly, but in some individuals chronic activation may occur. This leads to chronic inflammation and autoimmune attack on the gut leading to Crohn's disease. > > > > So how may kefir help? Good question. > > If bacteria are the source of the disease, introducing new bacteria may be the answer. By consuming kefir, we can change the gut flora (or bacterial composition) in the gut. New evidence suggest that the beneficial effects of kefir are even more profound that initially thought. In a recent report an Argentinian group demonstrated that yogurt (kefir) can induce immune tolerance and resolve gut inflammation in mice. Immune tolerance is a process of immune " reeducation " , whereby " bad " immune cells learn to live again with our body. This tolerance can potentially resolve gut inflammation altogether, but it requires perseverance and time. > > > > I hope this is not too lengthily, but I thought that sharing this info may explain some of the discussion in this wonderful thread. > > > > Feedback would be greatly appreciated! > > > > All the best! > > > > Carol > > > > eakirav.tripod.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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