Can I make kefir using soy or almond milk?

[Guest guest]

I was wondering if I can use soy or almond milk to make kefir. I did see someone

use skim milk on youtube and made a great kefir with it. I'm waiting for my milk

kefir grains to arrive. So far I've only used the water kefir grains which

started out slow, but now are producing very quickly.

Joan

[Guest guest]

I was actually wondering this very thing, and was thinking about attempting it

with my homemade almond milk. I make kefir with coconut milk fairly regularly

(it's really good!).

I do know that if you are using a non-animal milk to ferment, you cannot

continue doing that forever. After doing a couple or few batches of a non-animal

milk (like coconut milk), you need to use them to ferment cow milk or goat milk

or something like that to keep them going.

But, since the coconut milk works, I have been wondering what would happen if I

tried my almond milk (made from almonds at home...not store bought). I'll

probably try it during the next week, and I'll report back on how it goes.

>

> I was wondering if I can use soy or almond milk to make kefir. I did see

someone use skim milk on youtube and made a great kefir with it. I'm waiting for

my milk kefir grains to arrive. So far I've only used the water kefir grains

which started out slow, but now are producing very quickly.

> Joan

>

[Guest guest]

I'd be curious to ferment coconut milk or coconut water myself. But where do you

buy coconut milk? I have been looking and am scared of getting bad milk. Amazon

reviews are a good percentage of people saying theirs was brown and smelled like

rotting fish.

I don't understand the difference between coconut MILK and coconut WATER, so if

there is a difference, someone can enlighten me.

Lyn

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From: " " <beaner892000@...>

I was actually wondering this very thing, and was thinking about attempting it

with my homemade almond milk. I make kefir with coconut milk fairly regularly

(it's really good!).

I do know that if you are using a non-animal milk to ferment, you cannot

continue doing that forever. After doing a couple or few batches of a non-animal

milk (like coconut milk), you need to use them to ferment cow milk or goat milk

or something like that to keep them going.

But, since the coconut milk works, I have been wondering what would happen if I

tried my almond milk (made from almonds at home...not store bought). I'll

probably try it during the next week, and I'll report back on how it goes.

>

> I was wondering if I can use soy or almond milk to make kefir. I did see

someone use skim milk on youtube and made a great kefir with it. I'm waiting for

my milk kefir grains to arrive. So far I've only used the water kefir grains

which started out slow, but now are producing very quickly.

> Joan

>

[Guest guest]

I buy coconut milk in the can, typically I buy the Thai brand. Coconut milk is

the water blended with the meat of the coconut and coconut water is just the

water. Most of us know coconuts by the little brown " monkey " heads we see in

the grocery stores. However, green coconuts are the best. They are full of

delicious water and the flesh is like coconut flavored jello.

On Mar 4, 2012, at 8:19 AM, ly.ninwv@... wrote:

> I'd be curious to ferment coconut milk or coconut water myself. But where do

you buy coconut milk? I have been looking and am scared of getting bad milk.

Amazon reviews are a good percentage of people saying theirs was brown and

smelled like rotting fish.

>

> I don't understand the difference between coconut MILK and coconut WATER, so

if there is a difference, someone can enlighten me.

>

> Lyn

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " " <beaner892000@...>

>

> I was actually wondering this very thing, and was thinking about attempting it

with my homemade almond milk. I make kefir with coconut milk fairly regularly

(it's really good!).

>

> I do know that if you are using a non-animal milk to ferment, you cannot

continue doing that forever. After doing a couple or few batches of a non-animal

milk (like coconut milk), you need to use them to ferment cow milk or goat milk

or something like that to keep them going.

>

> But, since the coconut milk works, I have been wondering what would happen if

I tried my almond milk (made from almonds at home...not store bought). I'll

probably try it during the next week, and I'll report back on how it goes.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I was wondering if I can use soy or almond milk to make kefir. I did see

someone use skim milk on youtube and made a great kefir with it. I'm waiting for

my milk kefir grains to arrive. So far I've only used the water kefir grains

which started out slow, but now are producing very quickly.

> > Joan

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can find coconut milk in any typical grocery store in the Asian section. You

know that area where they have the pre-made Chinese meals and lo mein noodles

and stuff like that on the shelf? You should be able to find coconut milk in

that section in a can.

Living in Chicago, we have plenty of Asian markets here, so that is where I get

mine because there is more selection.

I've never opened a can and found it brown or rotting or anything, so I'd say

just try to get it straight from the store.

Coconut kefir is awesome. The unique taste of kefir and coconut combine very

well. Last week, I put some sweetener in my coconut kefir and ran it through the

ice cream maker...omg, it was so good!!! I hope I didn't kill off the bacteria

in the kefir by doing so...I don't know if freezing will harm them or not. But,

it sure was delicious.

>

> I'd be curious to ferment coconut milk or coconut water myself. But where do

you buy coconut milk? I have been looking and am scared of getting bad milk.

Amazon reviews are a good percentage of people saying theirs was brown and

smelled like rotting fish.

>

> I don't understand the difference between coconut MILK and coconut WATER, so

if there is a difference, someone can enlighten me.

>

> Lyn

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can make your own coconut milk from young coconuts.  These are found in

grocery stores and they are white and wrapped in clear wrap.  I think they are

usually called young Thai coconuts.  You can search for videos on YouTube about

how to open them.  The water is delicious.  The flesh is soft and can be blended

with some of the coconut water to a yogurt consistency or with  more coconut

water, to a milk consistency.  Then, you can make kefir by immersing the grains

and letting things ferment.  Or so I've been told.  I'm new to kefir, so I've

only made coconut yogurt this way.  I've used a " kefir " starter to make the

kefir coconut water, but I just learned that the " kefir " starter isn't really

kefir.    I'm looking forward to tasting real kefir once I can get some

grains. 

NOTE about young Thai coconuts: if the outsides have blotches (usually grey or

pink) or soft spots (usually brownish), then the flesh inside will be spoiled.

 When you open up the coconut the flesh should be very white.  If it is grey or

pink, it is spoiled, as is the water.  

 

Saskatchewan, Canada

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[Guest guest]

Coconut milk and coconut water. I believe the water is the liquid that you

get right from the fresh coconut. And you can also buy coconut water in a

bottle. I did find some coconut water at my Target store. It comes in

various flavors. You can also order it on line.Coconut milk is made from the

coconut meat. You can make coconut milk using the fresh coconut. There

probably are directions on line if you do a search for it. I've also found

coconut milk in the grocery store and healthfood store in the can.

Joan

[Guest guest]

I would be afraid of a can because of the BPA found in most can liners. My local

Big Lots has been getting in different kinds of coconut water and, so far they

are in cardboard cartons, which I trust more, but I don't trust the age they

probably are once Big Lots gets them. Although I have to say I gotten a few the

two different times they had them. The first time I bought them I didn't like

the taste so I didn't get more. Then when they had more, I got 3 once and they

all tasted different and were all good. I'm pretty sure the first brand was

ZICO. I don't recall the second, tho, but they probably would have more if I

went back. But that was a different brand and that was my second taste of milk

or water - whichever it was. So I didn't know if that was the way it was

supposed to taste.

The coconut oil open forum I am a part of came across

http://www.importfood.com/cfch1301.html and wondered if I should try the one at

the bottom of the page. It is not in a can but a carton.

Lyn

RE: Re: Can I make kefir using soy or almond milk?

Coconut milk and coconut water. I believe the water is the liquid that you

get right from the fresh coconut. And you can also buy coconut water in a

bottle. I did find some coconut water at my Target store. It comes in

various flavors. You can also order it on line.Coconut milk is made from the

coconut meat. You can make coconut milk using the fresh coconut. There

probably are directions on line if you do a search for it. I've also found

coconut milk in the grocery store and healthfood store in the can.

Joan

[Guest guest]

We don't get young coconuts here in NE USA. We get the brown coconuts, but the

two I got once were moldy. So I won't trust fresh coconuts anymore.

There are bags of flaked coconut in the organic section, but it says " reduced

fat " and I don't want that. Who knows what they did to it, but I WANT the fat.

Lyn

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From: " J. Berg " <bergj2001@...>

You can make your own coconut milk from young coconuts. These are found in

grocery stores and they are white and wrapped in clear wrap. I think they are

usually called young Thai coconuts. You can search for videos on YouTube about

how to open them. The water is delicious. The flesh is soft and can be blended

with some of the coconut water to a yogurt consistency or with more coconut

water, to a milk consistency. Then, you can make kefir by immersing the grains

and letting things ferment. Or so I've been told. I'm new to kefir, so I've only

made coconut yogurt this way. I've used a " kefir " starter to make the kefir

coconut water, but I just learned that the " kefir " starter isn't really kefir.

I'm looking forward to tasting real kefir once I can get some grains.

NOTE about young Thai coconuts: if the outsides have blotches (usually grey or

pink) or soft spots (usually brownish), then the flesh inside will be spoiled.

When you open up the coconut the flesh should be very white. If it is grey or

pink, it is spoiled, as is the water.

Saskatchewan, Canada

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[Guest guest]

I would say no on the soy milk. Reason being is that most of the soy (I don't

have an exact percentage) is GMO soy, which contains Roudup poison...that will

kill the grains. If it's conventional, non-GMO soy, it has an extremely high

chance of being contaminated with GMO...and will kill the grains. If it's

organic soy, there is still a chance that it's contaminated with GMO. There are

lots of articles on www.naturalnews.com about GMO and soy.

Al

Can I make kefir using soy or almond milk?

I was wondering if I can use soy or almond milk to make kefir. I did see someone

use skim milk on youtube and made a great kefir with it. I'm waiting for my milk

kefir grains to arrive. So far I've only used the water kefir grains which

started out slow, but now are producing very quickly.

Joan