Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Funny you should say that Bev, you just beat me to the draw. Nn. England. Re: detox question > > > > Hi Gayla, > > > > So it is not too little water then:-)) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Funny you should say that Bev, you just beat me to the draw. Nn. England. Re: detox question > > > > Hi Gayla, > > > > So it is not too little water then:-)) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 We thought about that too. We have had the same mattress for years. So why all of a sudden is it the bad guy? <s> Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Re: detox question > Hi Gayla, > > Could it be your mattress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 We thought about that too. We have had the same mattress for years. So why all of a sudden is it the bad guy? <s> Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Re: detox question > Hi Gayla, > > Could it be your mattress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 The thing is both of us have the same symptoms. I have good posture, he has poor posture. I just had a hip replacement, he did not. We have not substantially changed our work routines. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Re: detox question > So can posture, as well as the way you lift, sit etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 The thing is both of us have the same symptoms. I have good posture, he has poor posture. I just had a hip replacement, he did not. We have not substantially changed our work routines. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Re: detox question > So can posture, as well as the way you lift, sit etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 > We thought about that too. We have had the same mattress for years. So why > all of a sudden is it the bad guy? <s> > Gayla Ummmm...Gayla? That would be because you've had it for years??? <vbg> Just kidding...but really....those things do have a lifespan. Sure would be nice if you and hubby could get away for a few days to see if sleeping on a different mattress would help! You know an inexpensive something to try is a memory foam mattress pad. I've got a 4 " thick one I got from Overstock.com that really helped my chronic lower back pain that is caused by a fractured vertebra. I still get supportive Chiropractic...but the mattress pad has done wonders for me. Hope you figure out whats going on, soon! Gayle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 > We thought about that too. We have had the same mattress for years. So why > all of a sudden is it the bad guy? <s> > Gayla Ummmm...Gayla? That would be because you've had it for years??? <vbg> Just kidding...but really....those things do have a lifespan. Sure would be nice if you and hubby could get away for a few days to see if sleeping on a different mattress would help! You know an inexpensive something to try is a memory foam mattress pad. I've got a 4 " thick one I got from Overstock.com that really helped my chronic lower back pain that is caused by a fractured vertebra. I still get supportive Chiropractic...but the mattress pad has done wonders for me. Hope you figure out whats going on, soon! Gayle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 If you haven't changed anything in your routine, and you haven't changed anything in your diet, and hubby and you are both having symptoms, that rules out a number of things, which is good. But it does then point to an environmental factor instead of say a genetic factor, as it affects both of you. (as its unlikely both of you would develop kidney problems or pull a muscle or have muscle ache at teh same time!) That points more to environment to me cheers Cait On Dec 8, 2007 2:04 PM, G S Marks <gsmarks@...> wrote: > > > > We thought about that too. We have had the same mattress for years. So > why > > all of a sudden is it the bad guy? <s> > > Gayla > > Ummmm...Gayla? That would be because you've had it for years??? <vbg> > > Just kidding...but really....those things do have a lifespan. Sure would > be > nice if you and hubby could get away for a few days to see if sleeping on > a > different mattress would help! > > You know an inexpensive something to try is a memory foam mattress pad. > I've got a 4 " thick one I got from Overstock.com <http://overstock.com/>that really helped my > chronic lower back pain that is caused by a fractured vertebra. I still > get > supportive Chiropractic...but the mattress pad has done wonders for me. > > Hope you figure out whats going on, soon! > > Gayle > > > -- livejournal: http://wildchildcait.livejournal.com St drove the snakes out of Ireland. Caitilin drove them back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 If you haven't changed anything in your routine, and you haven't changed anything in your diet, and hubby and you are both having symptoms, that rules out a number of things, which is good. But it does then point to an environmental factor instead of say a genetic factor, as it affects both of you. (as its unlikely both of you would develop kidney problems or pull a muscle or have muscle ache at teh same time!) That points more to environment to me cheers Cait On Dec 8, 2007 2:04 PM, G S Marks <gsmarks@...> wrote: > > > > We thought about that too. We have had the same mattress for years. So > why > > all of a sudden is it the bad guy? <s> > > Gayla > > Ummmm...Gayla? That would be because you've had it for years??? <vbg> > > Just kidding...but really....those things do have a lifespan. Sure would > be > nice if you and hubby could get away for a few days to see if sleeping on > a > different mattress would help! > > You know an inexpensive something to try is a memory foam mattress pad. > I've got a 4 " thick one I got from Overstock.com <http://overstock.com/>that really helped my > chronic lower back pain that is caused by a fractured vertebra. I still > get > supportive Chiropractic...but the mattress pad has done wonders for me. > > Hope you figure out whats going on, soon! > > Gayle > > > -- livejournal: http://wildchildcait.livejournal.com St drove the snakes out of Ireland. Caitilin drove them back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 I agree mattresses have a life span. Ours is probably ready for replacement. But both of us at the same time, similar symptoms, etc...? Now both of our backs are getting better. I am still assuming detox of some sort. I have been coughing up mucous for 2 weeks - another detox symptom. No fever, no cold, no aches and pains. Just pure detox. I was on heavy pain meds for years and my body needs to throw out the garbage. Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. The back seems to be healing itself now. P.S. Gayle - we now have a grand-scoby <VBG> Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Re: detox question > Just kidding...but really....those things do have a lifespan. Sure would > be > nice if you and hubby could get away for a few days to see if sleeping on > a > different mattress would help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 I agree mattresses have a life span. Ours is probably ready for replacement. But both of us at the same time, similar symptoms, etc...? Now both of our backs are getting better. I am still assuming detox of some sort. I have been coughing up mucous for 2 weeks - another detox symptom. No fever, no cold, no aches and pains. Just pure detox. I was on heavy pain meds for years and my body needs to throw out the garbage. Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. The back seems to be healing itself now. P.S. Gayle - we now have a grand-scoby <VBG> Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Re: detox question > Just kidding...but really....those things do have a lifespan. Sure would > be > nice if you and hubby could get away for a few days to see if sleeping on > a > different mattress would help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I'm just catching up on this thread - but I thought at the beginning, could it be CO2 getting hung up in a bend in the intestines? I don't know precisely where the kidney is. Are you sure the pain is in the back or just that it feels painful in the same vicinity as your back? > > The thing is both of us have the same symptoms. I have good posture, he has > poor posture. I just had a hip replacement, he did not. We have not > substantially changed our work routines. > Gayla > Always Enough Ranch > Acampo, California > http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html > aeranch@... > > Re: detox question > > > > So can posture, as well as the way you lift, sit etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I'm just catching up on this thread - but I thought at the beginning, could it be CO2 getting hung up in a bend in the intestines? I don't know precisely where the kidney is. Are you sure the pain is in the back or just that it feels painful in the same vicinity as your back? > > The thing is both of us have the same symptoms. I have good posture, he has > poor posture. I just had a hip replacement, he did not. We have not > substantially changed our work routines. > Gayla > Always Enough Ranch > Acampo, California > http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html > aeranch@... > > Re: detox question > > > > So can posture, as well as the way you lift, sit etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I don't think so. The kidneys are above the small of your back. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Re: detox question >> >> >> > So can posture, as well as the way you lift, sit etc. >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I don't think so. The kidneys are above the small of your back. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Re: detox question >> >> >> > So can posture, as well as the way you lift, sit etc. >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 If I understand the role of kefir correctly it should help with balancing your digestive system, therefore enhancing all other body systems to " run " better. Yes? So if you have a candida issue, you will overcome the bad with the good. If you have a leaky gut issue, the wall and lining of the intestine will strengthen therefore decreasing permeability. My question really is a bit different (or maybe not so unrelated). Let's say you have heavy metal issues or have eaten non organics for most of your life so have many herbi/pesticides floating around in your body, or you've pumped gas/been a mechanic for years; is there any information out there that supports kefir in helping eliminate those " heavier " pollutants from your body? If so, please include the link or antedotal info. Thank you, Moni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 To the best of my knowledge, Moni, kefir/kombucha will do what you've said, but the heavier metals generally need to be detoxified with iodine, chlorella, and other such things. Besides fabulous taste, we drink fermented things here for overall gut health (when the gut is healthy, we are healthy), but we supplement with iodine and chlorella for detoxing the heavier metals which get stuck in our receptors from amalgam fillings, fish-consumption, etc. HTH Grace, Sue Wife to Mark Mama to n (10) ~A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - R. Murrow Sue Talbert Photography <http://www.suetalbert.com> | see life through my lens A Mother's Heart <http://www.mamasheartblog.com> ♥ first (and second) takes on marriage, motherhood, and life About me [image: about.me] <http://about.me/suetalbert> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 7:39 AM, shuttsey2 <larryandmoni@...>wrote: > ** > > > If I understand the role of kefir correctly it should help with balancing > your digestive system, therefore enhancing all other body systems to " run " > better. Yes? > > So if you have a candida issue, you will overcome the bad with the good. > If you have a leaky gut issue, the wall and lining of the intestine will > strengthen therefore decreasing permeability. > > My question really is a bit different (or maybe not so unrelated). Let's > say you have heavy metal issues or have eaten non organics for most of your > life so have many herbi/pesticides floating around in your body, or you've > pumped gas/been a mechanic for years; is there any information out there > that supports kefir in helping eliminate those " heavier " pollutants from > your body? If so, please include the link or antedotal info. > > Thank you, > Moni > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Thank you all for all the detox info. I will be looking into some of this. I was more curious than needy. We live on a very traditional family organic " farm " of 4 acres. We milk, raise our own veggies and meat, live a low chemical lifestyle and work on the place, so very little chemical load on our bodies. That's not to say our neighbors don't spray Roundup and the mill across the street doesn't run diesel equipment all day, but at least at home it's rather like the early 1900s as far as the chemical load goes. I think the reason I was curious is because of the BIG reaction I and dd had when we started kefir. Stinky gas, stomach pain, loose bowels, headachy, much rumbling in all digestive tract, so much discomfort I wasn't sure if I could push through, but am on the other side and I only have those issues if I drink " fresh " kefir; meaning less than 36-48 hours old. DD still isn't more than a tablespoon a day as she has the same issues. Neither one of us has been lactose intolerant, we have drink our Jersey's raw milk and have for 5-6 years with no issue. So it isn't that. I'm not sure what, but some sort of Herxheimer effect is going on. That's why the detox question. Just curious if it was pulling out something I wasn't picking up on. But the answers I got have been great. I have new stuff to research! Thank you all much, Moni > > Hi Moni, > > Kefir is not a fix all all by itself. It helps but it needs lots of other help to heal bodies from heavy metal poisoning, pesticides, herbicides, fungicides and other toxic chemicals. With that said, it is recommended that detoxing be done first. Homeopathic are excellent at accomplishing this gently. Gently does not mean that there were not be any herximer response (healing crisis) but the body takes what it needs and knows what to do. > > Kingbio.com has an excellent line of detox formulas. These are over the counter formulas and are non-toxic. A good one to start with would be Total Body Detox and a Constitutional Formula. When your body is ready, you might want to move on to Liver Detox, Blood & Kidney Detox, and Lymph Detox. They have a lot of other detox formulas for chemicals but I'm not sure which formula would be for what a mechanic would be exposed to. I would recommend calling KingBio at 1-828-255-0201 and their representatives can help you find the right formulas or they can recommend a Chiropractor or Naturopath or other health care practitioner in your area that can guide you in the right direction of detoxing with their professional strength remedies and nutritional guidance. They even have remedies for GMO's. > > There is also a possibility that the epithelial lining of the gut is so permeable that you need to rebuild it with the silver/aloe protocol. I just finished doing this and I'm working on respenishing my probiotics and enzymes and will be doing further detoxing. > > It sounds like you might want to start listening to the Bell show on http://www.naturalnewsradio.com/ > is always, always, always talking about detoxing and the silver/aloe protocol, whole food supplements, Kingbio, organic food, etc. You will love him. > > I hope this helps, > Al > > > > Detox question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I understand the role of kefir correctly it should help with balancing your digestive system, therefore enhancing all other body systems to " run " better. Yes? > > > > So if you have a candida issue, you will overcome the bad with the good. If you have a leaky gut issue, the wall and lining of the intestine will strengthen therefore decreasing permeability. > > > > My question really is a bit different (or maybe not so unrelated). Let's say you have heavy metal issues or have eaten non organics for most of your life so have many herbi/pesticides floating around in your body, or you've pumped gas/been a mechanic for years; is there any information out there that supports kefir in helping eliminate those " heavier " pollutants from your body? If so, please include the link or antedotal info. > > > > Thank you, > > Moni > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 moni, some say, " Health begins in the colon. " others say, " Death begins in the colon. " i used to know robert gray, the author of " the colon health handbook. " reading letters that came to him from people who had followed his program, i grew to appreciate that those quotes were true. the colon is key. if garbage comes in, that's not optimal, for the body doesn't thrive on garbage, so it's essential that it also go out. but if garbage comes in and does not go out, then it remains in the body and poisons us throughout. there are lots of photos on the web of what comes out of the body when the colon is cleansed - a rubbery lining that has prevented nutrients from being absorbed - and that has provided a safe haven for all kinds of little critters - the 'bad' bacteria, growths of all kinds. colon cleansing is a good thing. from what i hear here, it sounds as if kefir is a big help in the process of transforming an environment of 'bad' bacteria to 'good' bacteria... but i would also make sure that the foods i eat contain fiber that brush, are water soluble so they do not stick, and contain lots of natural nutrients so that we feel full, satisfied and healthy. we live in an age which offers non-foods in grocery stores. this is unique in all of history. people have always lived on real foods - what is locally grown, organic, and - if animal - easy to catch. raw, organic greens might be the most important food we can eat. it's what most animals live on. and they do far better than we do, healthwise. when they fed animals in zoos, people food, they soon developed people diseases. when they changed their fare to raw fruits and vegetables, meats and greens, as they eat in the wild, they thrived. i'd say fruits, vegetables, eggs, kefir - sounds like a good diet. and yes, the processing of grains has changed to the point where they are not all that good for us, either. the US has an epidemic of chronic disease, due largely to our 'modern' food that has an excellent shelf life... that does not support life. Love, " What is real and what is not the child once knew but he's forgot " On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:39 AM, shuttsey2 wrote: > If I understand the role of kefir correctly it should help with balancing your digestive system, therefore enhancing all other body systems to " run " better. Yes? > > So if you have a candida issue, you will overcome the bad with the good. If you have a leaky gut issue, the wall and lining of the intestine will strengthen therefore decreasing permeability. > > My question really is a bit different (or maybe not so unrelated). Let's say you have heavy metal issues or have eaten non organics for most of your life so have many herbi/pesticides floating around in your body, or you've pumped gas/been a mechanic for years; is there any information out there that supports kefir in helping eliminate those " heavier " pollutants from your body? If so, please include the link or antedotal info. > > Thank you, > Moni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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