Re: Liquid Whey nutritional composition

[Guest guest]

Reason I really want to know quantity is because if it will work with 1/4 cup,

then I don't want to have to drink 12 oz. And if 1/4 cup works, and works well,

would 12 oz. be way too much and produce a much stronger herxheimer reaction

with major headaches. We are trying to detox mercury from vaccines and mercury

fillings.

Al

Re: Liquid Why nutritional composition

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>As far as I can tell, there is no real research done on things like actual

>nutrient values of things like Kefir, much less kefir or cheese whey. If

>you look at data from commercial kefir manufacturers they show the same

>nutritional composition as the milk they started from. We all know the

>carb content should be less due to the lactose breakdown, etc.

>

>It's unfortunate that the Weston-Price Foundation, or RealMilk.com (yes,

>both Sally organizations) don't work on getting this data. I'm not sure

>what exact lab costs would be. Obviously even specifying the animal type

>wouldn't give exact data, since individual feed, health, time of year would

>vary.

>

>I'm not sure how an exact amount would help you. If it was optimally

>healthy to eat 3/4 of an apple, would you throw the rest away?

>

>The only way to tell might be analysis of nitrogen excretion in urine. The

>excess protein shows up that way. But there is gluconeogenesis, so the

>extra protein is broken down and utilized, not harmful.

>

>Leo

>

>On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Liberty Chick <ouched63188@...>wrote:

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>> Here is a technical question for the scientists out there, or the super

>> duper internet researcher.

>>

>> Does anyone know the amount of protein per quantity of fresh liquid whey?

>> We can't seem to find it on the net because everything we find is for a

>> powdered whey product. We would like to know what the nutritional

>> composition for let say 1/4 cup of liquid whey. What is the percent of

>> protein, amino acids, etc? Ok, let me reword the question...how much liquid

>> whey from raw organic grass-fed Jersey Cow milk would we have to drink to

>> get 30grams of protein? Has anyone ever found this out? We would like to

>> drink some of our kefir whey daily, multiple times per day to boost our

>> glutathione levels to detox but we don't know how much.

>>

>> Al

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[Guest guest]

Is there a lower threshold that the whey will not work? If I understand

(which I usually don't), you don't want too much mercury released at once.

Do you know what the amount/type of protein is needed? And at what point

the Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction gets triggered?

Also, if you'd be so kind, I would be very interested in mercury detox info

that you could direct me to.

Leo

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:13 AM, <ouched63188@...> wrote:

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> Reason I really want to know quantity is because if it will work with 1/4

> cup, then I don't want to have to drink 12 oz. And if 1/4 cup works, and

> works well, would 12 oz. be way too much and produce a much stronger

> herxheimer reaction with major headaches. We are trying to detox mercury

> from vaccines and mercury fillings.

>

> Al

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, the only data I've been able to find on liquid whey are these, and the

type of protein is not specified:

Whey, sweet, fluid: 2.09 g protein/cup whey

Whey, acid, fluid: 1.87 g protein/cup whey

http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/102

http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/100

I have no clue how they define sweet vs acid whey. And no milk type

specified.

Hope that's at least a little help.

Leo

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:13 AM, <ouched63188@...> wrote:

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>

>

> Reason I really want to know quantity is because if it will work with 1/4

> cup, then I don't want to have to drink 12 oz. And if 1/4 cup works, and

> works well, would 12 oz. be way too much and produce a much stronger

> herxheimer reaction with major headaches. We are trying to detox mercury

> from vaccines and mercury fillings.

>

> Al

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know what the lower threshold is...would like to know that also. Yes, I

don't want a bad herxheimer...a mild one will show me that

I'm detoxing. I also need to go slow so as to not burden my organs of

elimination. I do have a Relax Far Infrared Sauna so that will help to detoxify

and get some of the mercury out that is pulled out of my cells from the whey

nutrition.

" Non-denatured whey protein from grass-fed cows is also very good for

rebuilding the gut. Whey is loaded with L-glutamine and enhances

cellular glutathione stores which are both needed to repair the

intestinal wall and de-inflame the body. Powerful herbs such as

turmeric, g garlic, onion, rosemary, & oregano among others should

be used as much as possible to improve immune

coordination. " http://www.naturalnews.com/036351_digestion_remedies_solutions.htm\

l

I received an email a few weeks back specifically about why protein and detoxing

mercury. I will have to look for it but I've been so busy lately and it's

almost 2, so I'm exhaused. Maybe I can find it on Monday and I'll email it to

you.

Thanks,

Al

Re: Liquid Whey nutritional composition

Is there a lower threshold that the whey will not work? If I understand

(which I usually don't), you don't want too much mercury released at once.

Do you know what the amount/type of protein is needed? And at what point

the Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction gets triggered?

Also, if you'd be so kind, I would be very interested in mercury detox info

that you could direct me to.

Leo

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:13 AM, <ouched63188@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Reason I really want to know quantity is because if it will work with 1/4

> cup, then I don't want to have to drink 12 oz. And if 1/4 cup works, and

> works well, would 12 oz. be way too much and produce a much stronger

> herxheimer reaction with major headaches. We are trying to detox mercury

> from vaccines and mercury fillings.

>

> Al

>

>

[Guest guest]

Leo,

Thanks for the links. I'll have to look into them. I found a link explaining

the difference between sweet and acid whey. Sweet whey comes from cottage

cheese production and acid whey comes from (rennet) hard cheese production.

http://www.bythewhey.com/acid_sweet_nutrition.html

So, what kind of whey is from kefir production? Does it start out being sweet

whey right after straining? Does it turn to acid whey when you second

ferment?...hmmm There is a little bit more protein in sweet whey than acid

whey. I wonder if there is a pH difference, not fut the name of sweet or acid.

I have pH paper, I can try to test it to see what the pH is.

Al

Re: Liquid Whey nutritional composition

Oh, the only data I've been able to find on liquid whey are these, and the

type of protein is not specified:

Whey, sweet, fluid: 2.09 g protein/cup whey

Whey, acid, fluid: 1.87 g protein/cup whey

http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/102

http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/100

I have no clue how they define sweet vs acid whey. And no milk type

specified.

Hope that's at least a little help.

Leo

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:13 AM, <ouched63188@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Reason I really want to know quantity is because if it will work with 1/4

> cup, then I don't want to have to drink 12 oz. And if 1/4 cup works, and

> works well, would 12 oz. be way too much and produce a much stronger

> herxheimer reaction with major headaches. We are trying to detox mercury

> from vaccines and mercury fillings.

>

> Al

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've read that one of the best ways to detox mercury from you system is with

cilantro, the leaves and stems, not to seed. They discovered this, whoever

'they' are, by testing Vietnamese dental patients after having mercury fillings

removed, then again after they had a traditional Vietnamese meal with lots of

cilantro. I can't remember how many years ago I read this, but I'd guess it was

over 5 because that's when I started going very heavy on the cilantro and eating

only veggies. I don't do that any more, but liked the results while I stuck with

it. A good thing. too, since I react adversely to whey and whey protein. I

prefer my kefir with most of the whey strained out of it.

in Oregon

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From: " ouched63188@... " <ouched63188@...>

 

I don't know what the lower threshold is...would like to know that also. Yes, I

don't want a bad herxheimer...a mild one will show me that

I'm detoxing. I also need to go slow so as to not burden my organs of

elimination. I do have a Relax Far Infrared Sauna so that will help to detoxify

and get some of the mercury out that is pulled out of my cells from the whey

nutrition.

I received an email a few weeks back specifically about why protein and detoxing

mercury. I will have to look for it but I've been so busy lately and it's

almost 2, so I'm exhaused. Maybe I can find it on Monday and I'll email it to

you.

Thanks,

Al

[Guest guest]

Yes, cilantro can detox mercury, but not even close to the efficacy of

glutathione. Glutathione is the MASTER DETOXIFIER. You do not take

glutathione, you consume the precursors...forgot the word there...and your body

creates the glutathione. There is also a component of the whey that causes the

body to take the used up glutathione and recycle it again so it's used

again...don't remember what this is called either. I have a video in my email

somewhere, have to look for it, that goes into all the different things to

detoxify heavy metals, some effective and some not effective. Heuer

was poisoned by mercury and apprently almost died and this was his struggle to

detoxify and the many, many different things he used to detoxify and what his

results were for each of them.

Al

Re: Liquid Whey nutritional composition

I've read that one of the best ways to detox mercury from you system is

with cilantro, the leaves and stems, not to seed. They discovered this, whoever

'they' are, by testing Vietnamese dental patients after having mercury fillings

removed, then again after they had a traditional Vietnamese meal with lots of

cilantro. I can't remember how many years ago I read this, but I'd guess it was

over 5 because that's when I started going very heavy on the cilantro and eating

only veggies. I don't do that any more, but liked the results while I stuck with

it. A good thing. too, since I react adversely to whey and whey protein. I

prefer my kefir with most of the whey strained out of it.

in Oregon

________________________________

From: " ouched63188@... " <ouched63188@...>

I don't know what the lower threshold is...would like to know that also. Yes, I

don't want a bad herxheimer...a mild one will show me that

I'm detoxing. I also need to go slow so as to not burden my organs of

elimination. I do have a Relax Far Infrared Sauna so that will help to detoxify

and get some of the mercury out that is pulled out of my cells from the whey

nutrition.

I received an email a few weeks back specifically about why protein and detoxing

mercury. I will have to look for it but I've been so busy lately and it's

almost 2, so I'm exhaused. Maybe I can find it on Monday and I'll email it to

you.

Thanks,

Al

[Guest guest]

Moving it over to off-topic forum.

Al

Re: Liquid Whey nutritional composition

I don't know what the lower threshold is...would like to know that also.

Yes, I don't want a bad herxheimer...a mild one will show me that

I'm detoxing. I also need to go slow so as to not burden my organs of

elimination. I do have a Relax Far Infrared Sauna so that will help to detoxify

and get some of the mercury out that is pulled out of my cells from the whey

nutrition.

" Non-denatured whey protein from grass-fed cows is also very good for

rebuilding the gut. Whey is loaded with L-glutamine and enhances

cellular glutathione stores which are both needed to repair the

intestinal wall and de-inflame the body. Powerful herbs such as

turmeric, g garlic, onion, rosemary, & oregano among others should

be used as much as possible to improve immune

coordination. " http://www.naturalnews.com/036351_digestion_remedies_solutions.htm\

l

I received an email a few weeks back specifically about why protein and detoxing

mercury. I will have to look for it but I've been so busy lately and it's

almost 2, so I'm exhaused. Maybe I can find it on Monday and I'll email it to

you.

Thanks,

Al