Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I'm in the process of making kefir butter. I put my grains in approx 1 qt. of heavy whipping cream for about 36 hours. I also had some extra whipping cream (1/2 pint) that I added to 1/2 pint of already made kefir also for 36 hours. I strained the grains from the qt of HWC and added the pint of kefir/HWC. Using my kitchenaid mixer and dough hook, I mixed for several minutes on medium speed. Some butter milk separated, so I poured it off and continued mixing. I read on a website to add 1/4 cup of ice water and continue mixing and to pour off the liquid until it was clear. Since adding the ice water, my butter has changed to the consistancy of beautiful butter cream icing. It just keeps getting fluffier. Help! Does anyone know what I should do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Dear , It sounds like a recipe for kefir or paleo ice cream. I think that you should eat it. From: theraifs@... Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 19:44:56 +0000 Subject: kefir butter I'm in the process of making kefir butter. I put my grains in approx 1 qt. of heavy whipping cream for about 36 hours. I also had some extra whipping cream (1/2 pint) that I added to 1/2 pint of already made kefir also for 36 hours. I strained the grains from the qt of HWC and added the pint of kefir/HWC. Using my kitchenaid mixer and dough hook, I mixed for several minutes on medium speed. Some butter milk separated, so I poured it off and continued mixing. I read on a website to add 1/4 cup of ice water and continue mixing and to pour off the liquid until it was clear. Since adding the ice water, my butter has changed to the consistancy of beautiful butter cream icing. It just keeps getting fluffier. Help! Does anyone know what I should do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I'm afraid you have made kefir whipped cream I make butter and just put it in a jar and shake it til the butter forms, then I use a flat spatula to move it around and drain the excess whey off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 , I used to try to make butter in my KitchenAid mixer, but stopped that years ago. With the pouring shield and a kitchen rag over the top of the machine, my kitchen still ended up a mess. I mean mess (this from someone who a mess in normal, so you know it was bad). After the whip cream stage it should start breaking down into butter (cream, whipped cream, crap spattering all over, butter...) The last time I've made butter (from skimmed goats milk), I used my cuisinart food processor. Putting in up to 2 cups at a time, I can get butter in about 3 min. Way, way easier. Give it a try. Oh, and if you have to use the mixer, use the whisk not the dough hook. Leo On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 1:44 PM, nancyraif1960 <theraifs@...>wrote: > ** > > > I'm in the process of making kefir butter. I put my grains in approx 1 qt. > of heavy whipping cream for about 36 hours. I also had some extra whipping > cream (1/2 pint) that I added to 1/2 pint of already made kefir also for 36 > hours. I strained the grains from the qt of HWC and added the pint of > kefir/HWC. Using my kitchenaid mixer and dough hook, I mixed for several > minutes on medium speed. Some butter milk separated, so I poured it off and > continued mixing. I read on a website to add 1/4 cup of ice water and > continue mixing and to pour off the liquid until it was clear. Since adding > the ice water, my butter has changed to the consistancy of beautiful butter > cream icing. It just keeps getting fluffier. Help! Does anyone know what I > should do? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I had a post on here about cultured butter and it was a whipped butter consistency that tasted like a cross between butter and cream cheese...yummy!!! Look for my posts to see how I did it. Al RE: kefir butter > > >Dear , > >It sounds like a recipe for kefir or paleo ice cream. I think that you should eat it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Whipped cream is on the way to butter. Keep mixing it and it will clump up. You can also just use a mason jar and shake the jar for about 15 minutes and the butter will form, but it has to be at room temperature to make the butter. Once you have the butter formed and into a clump, then you can use the purified ice water to rinse the butter, but not before it becomes butter. Al Re: kefir butter I'm afraid you have made kefir whipped cream I make butter and just put it in a jar and shake it til the butter forms, then I use a flat spatula to move it around and drain the excess whey off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Thank you to the person who suggested using a food processor for making the butter!! I've been using my kitchen aid mixer with towels to keep it protected, but was concerned about the cream getting into my motor. I had tried my vitamix but the temp would heat up too quickly. So, today, I got my cultured cream to 68 degrees, used the food processor for about 2 minutes or so, and it came together partially. I then threw it in my mixer for about 1 minute or so to finish the process. I made 5 cups of cream into about 2 cups of butter in less than 10 minutes. Normally, I would be mixing in my kitchen aid mixer for twice that! Worked great - a few more messy dishes, but well worth the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 , that was me. Just to save time/washing etc, you can bring it to full butter in the food processor, no need to do the two stage of moving from FP to mixer. Be a rebel and give it a try. Leo On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:50 PM, bsbierle <sbierle@...> wrote: > ** > > > Thank you to the person who suggested using a food processor for making > the butter!! I've been using my kitchen aid mixer with towels to keep it > protected, but was concerned about the cream getting into my motor. I had > tried my vitamix but the temp would heat up too quickly. So, today, I got > my cultured cream to 68 degrees, used the food processor for about 2 > minutes or so, and it came together partially. I then threw it in my mixer > for about 1 minute or so to finish the process. I made 5 cups of cream into > about 2 cups of butter in less than 10 minutes. Normally, I would be mixing > in my kitchen aid mixer for twice that! Worked great - a few more messy > dishes, but well worth the time. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 that sounds so good. Do you use the kefir to make the butter with after you have strained out the grains? Do you make it right then or what? I would like to make some one day I think. Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Hi, Rose. I am blessed to get 2 gallons of raw milk each week, so I skim off the cream and put it in a separate jar. I then culture that with some extra grains I keep stored in the fridge with some milk. I usually culture for about 12-18 hours and then pull the grains out, put them back in the milk storage, and make the butter after that. I have had such variability with it coming together, though, that I made sure this last time that it was at 68 degrees, as that appears (from my reading) to be the best temp to make the butter. I wasn't able to get it to come together this last time in the food processor, probably because I don't have the best processor. That is why I had to stick it in my mixer for a bit. If you have access to cream, I highly recommend the butter. I usually split my batch in two and salt one part and keep the other unsalted. We use that for our " weekend " coffee - butter coffee. Good luck - it's worth the little bit of effort. > > that sounds so good. Do you use the kefir to make the butter with after you have strained out the grains? > Rose > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 If you don't get all the milk out of the cream, its hard to make butter, or whipped cream for that matter. Its best to allow the fresh milk to sit in the container for about 3 days or so undisturbed and very gently, remove the container from the fridge to not disturb the cream. I will use a turkey baster to suck the cream out of the container from the very top of the container. Go slow because the turkey baster will suck milk us thru the baster up through the cream like a straw. So hold the baster at an angle so you only get the cream. If you pulled milk in with the cream, you will see the color difference of yellow and white in the jar. Just pour the cream with the grains out very slowly watching for any white and strain the grains from the cream. You may also just pour the ream in a mason jar and shake it for about 15 minutes to make the butter. Sometimes, the food processors heat up the cream too much. I actually made successful kefir whipped butter when a friend of mine separated my cream with her cream separator. But for some reason it was set for super thick cream and it was almost butter coming out of the separator. I cultured the super thick cream and never needed to put in my blender, food processor or mason jar because it was so thick. I put the strained cream in the fridge and the next day tasted it. It was the consistency of whipped butter and tasted like a combination of butter and cream cheese. Al Re: kefir butter Hi, Rose. I am blessed to get 2 gallons of raw milk each week, so I skim off the cream and put it in a separate jar. I then culture that with some extra grains I keep stored in the fridge with some milk. I usually culture for about 12-18 hours and then pull the grains out, put them back in the milk storage, and make the butter after that. I have had such variability with it coming together, though, that I made sure this last time that it was at 68 degrees, as that appears (from my reading) to be the best temp to make the butter. I wasn't able to get it to come together this last time in the food processor, probably because I don't have the best processor. That is why I had to stick it in my mixer for a bit. If you have access to cream, I highly recommend the butter. I usually split my batch in two and salt one part and keep the other unsalted. We use that for our " weekend " coffee - butter coffee. Good luck - it's worth the little bit of effort. > > that sounds so good. Do you use the kefir to make the butter with after you have strained out the grains? > Rose > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I’ve never needed to try this, but maybe a fat separator would also work to separate the cream from the milk. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BGTZSG/?tag=alabl07-20 From: ouched63188@... Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Re: kefir butter If you don't get all the milk out of the cream, its hard to make butter, or whipped cream for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 It will only work in getting a couple tablespoons of cream as its not very big. The milk has to sit and separate 3 days to get a good separation and pouring milk with cream separated into the fat separator will mix the milk and you are back at square one. Check with your raw milk supplier to see if they have a cream separator and let you use it. Al Re: Re: kefir butter If you don't get all the milk out of the cream, its hard to make butter, or whipped cream for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Thank you . I cut and pasted so I could save and remember the info. Memory isn't very well these days so I cut and paste a whole lot. Yes we do have a source for cream actually and I've been really wanting to make some butter. Country Girl Creamery sells milk with cream floating on the top. They have finally got their milk out into several stores now and it is some good milk! Rose in MS. Thank you again ! Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Who might have non homogenized milk. redknight aka jim allAn On 7/16/2012 7:22 PM, Rose wrote: > Thank you . I cut and pasted so I could save and remember the info. Memory isn't very well these days so I cut and paste a whole lot. Yes we do have a source for cream actually and I've been really wanting to make some butter. Country Girl Creamery sells milk with cream floating on the top. They have finally got their milk out into several stores now and it is some good milk! > > > > Rose in MS. > > Thank you again ! > > Rose > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Kalona has non-homogenized milk. And their website has (or had) $.50 discount coupons for every 1/2 gallon. They also have vat pasteurized (much less heat for less time, or something good like that), non-homogenized heavy cream, which can be added to a kefir fermentation if you happen to like more fat in our kefir. From: redknight@... Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:56:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Re: kefir butter Who might have non homogenized milk. redknight aka jim allAn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 , where is Kalona? I have been buying goats milk but at $5/half gallon it gets a bit pricey Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2012, at 3:03 PM, B <rogerbird2@...> wrote: > > Kalona has non-homogenized milk. And their website has (or had) $.50 discount coupons for every 1/2 gallon. > > They also have vat pasteurized (much less heat for less time, or something good like that), non-homogenized heavy cream, which can be added to a kefir fermentation if you happen to like more fat in our kefir. > > > > > From: redknight@... > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:56:50 -0400 > Subject: Re: Re: kefir butter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who might have non homogenized milk. > > > > redknight aka jim allAn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Kalona is a dairy brand name named after the name of their location in Kalona, Iowa. (Say that 100 times fast.) Their website is: http://www.kalonasupernatural.com/ You can get their milk for as little as $2.83 per 1/2 gallon (with coupon), but that is going to vary a lot. Whole foods just loves to stick it to the customer. The coupons will be found by clicking on " Coupons " . Also on that website is a store locator. But it is best to call your store before to see if their milk is available that day and how much it costs. I love Kalona Supernatural. From: opiewan@... Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:31:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Re: kefir butter , where is Kalona? I have been buying goats milk but at $5/half gallon it gets a bit pricey Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2012, at 3:03 PM, B <rogerbird2@...> wrote: > > Kalona has non-homogenized milk. And their website has (or had) $.50 discount coupons for every 1/2 gallon. > > They also have vat pasteurized (much less heat for less time, or something good like that), non-homogenized heavy cream, which can be added to a kefir fermentation if you happen to like more fat in our kefir. > > > > > From: redknight@... > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:56:50 -0400 > Subject: Re: Re: kefir butter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who might have non homogenized milk. > > > > redknight aka jim allAn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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