Re: Storing some grains for later.....just in case?

[Guest guest]

I have some backup grains stored in the freezer. I patted them dry with clean

paper toweling and then put them in a FoodSaver bag, and vacuum sealed the bag.

I read somewhere that grains came out good after as many as 7 years of storage

this way. I did break out one pack of frozen grains after a few months’

storage like that, and they revived without missing a beat.

From: Rose

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:52 PM

Subject: Storing some grains for later.....just in case?

How do I go about storing some grains for later just in case these get messed up

or something? I have plenty for now and need to take some out and I want some

for a back up in case I need them. I have no idea how to save them. Mine are

growing very well now! Can someone tell me how?

Rose, Hattiesburg,MS.

[Guest guest]

Hello Rose,

I got this idea from somone else in this group and now I am trying it too. She

just covered some of her grains with milk and placed them in a small jar and

just kept them there for a few months.

You can also try to freeze or dry the grains too.

Warmly,

Jane Humes

http://www.raw-food-diet-magazine.com

Storing some grains for later.....just in case?

How do I go about storing some grains for later just in case these get messed

up or something? I have plenty for now and need to take some out and I want some

for a back up in case I need them. I have no idea how to save them. Mine are

growing very well now! Can someone tell me how?

Rose, Hattiesburg,MS.

[Guest guest]

The grains would run out if food within a few hours to days. I wouldn't want to

see or smell them after a few months. Actually, if the jar is closed, it may

crack or the top might blow off from the pressure . You can also just keep some

in a separate jar in some milk and take them out of the fridge to culture once a

week.

Al

Re: Storing some grains for later.....just in case?

Hello Rose,

I got this idea from somone else in this group and now I am trying it too. She

just covered some of her grains with milk and placed them in a small jar and

just kept them there for a few months.

You can also try to freeze or dry the grains too.

Warmly,

Jane Humes

http://www.raw-food-diet-magazine.com

Storing some grains for later.....just in case?

How do I go about storing some grains for later just in case these get messed up

or something? I have plenty for now and need to take some out and I want some

for a back up in case I need them. I have no idea how to save them. Mine are

growing very well now! Can someone tell me how?

Rose, Hattiesburg,MS.

[Guest guest]

Hi Al

Hey, that was me who did that experiment and the smell was fine, the jar didn't

crack and the curd-sized grains had grown to cauliflower and had the most

wonderful healthy color I have ever seen. The technique works. I was doing this

because my grains were shrinking and this was my latest trick to try to bring

some back and save some. I was not storing grains, I was hoping to bring them

back and I did. I am doing it again because my grains shrank again.

I can't explain what they fed on or why they grew. I was storing them in the

same milk I believe made them shrink in the first place. I just have no clue. I

have no answer to why it did not smell bad. It just all worked out.

Try it and see for yourself. If you've never experienced it, it's pretty hard to

really make an accurate judgement.

Lyn

----- Original Message -----

The grains would run out if food within a few hours to days. I wouldn't want to

see or smell them after a few months. Actually, if the jar is closed, it may

crack or the top might blow off from the pressure . You can also just keep some

in a separate jar in some milk and take them out of the fridge to culture once a

week.

Al

[Guest guest]

It doesn't make any sense. I would say illogical if I was Spock...but that's

dating me...hehe. There is a microbiologist (I think that is what he was) on

this forum ..Maybe he can do this experiment and then analyze the grains from

the original batch and then some from the experimental grains batch and see if

there is a difference in the quality of grains and ratio of bacterias and

yeasts. And if he's able to, identify if the bacterias change in that some

beneficial die off while others fluorish. If the sugars is what it feeds off

of, what are they eating when the sugars are gone?

Also, are you putting the lid on tight so the environment would become anerobic?

Fermenting veggies, sauerkraut is fermented in an anaerobic environment,

usually.

Al

Re: Storing some grains for later.....just in case?

Hi Al

Hey, that was me who did that experiment and the smell was fine, the jar didn't

crack and the curd-sized grains had grown to cauliflower and had the most

wonderful healthy color I have ever seen. The technique works. I was doing this

because my grains were shrinking and this was my latest trick to try to bring

some back and save some. I was not storing grains, I was hoping to bring them

back and I did. I am doing it again because my grains shrank again.

I can't explain what they fed on or why they grew. I was storing them in the

same milk I believe made them shrink in the first place. I just have no clue. I

have no answer to why it did not smell bad. It just all worked out.

Try it and see for yourself. If you've never experienced it, it's pretty hard to

really make an accurate judgement.

Lyn

----- Original Message -----

The grains would run out if food within a few hours to days. I wouldn't want to

see or smell them after a few months. Actually, if the jar is closed, it may

crack or the top might blow off from the pressure . You can also just keep some

in a separate jar in some milk and take them out of the fridge to culture once a

week.

Al

[Guest guest]

>>It doesn't make any sense.<<

I agree, from what I understand about kefir, that it does not make sense. But it

worked.

Maybe he can do this experiment and then analyze the grains from the original

batch and then some from the experimental grains batch and see if there is a

difference in the quality of grains and ratio of bacterias and yeasts. And if

he's able to, identify if the bacterias change in that some beneficial die off

while others fluorish. If the sugars is what it feeds off of, what are they

eating when the sugars are gone?

>>Are you putting the lid on tight so the environment would become anerobic?<<

Yes.

Lyn

[Guest guest]

Jane do you put them in the freezer like that or the fridge or what?

Rose

[Guest guest]

Good idea Al! Will try that. I did freeze a tbl. of them a couple days back when

I saw that someone said they use the food saver and vaccum out the air and

freeze them. Got those in there but still have some more I could do this with.

I'm like a little kid at Christmas time with these grains. lol Every teeny tiny

one I try to baby! 

Thanks you all!

Rose

[Guest guest]

WOW Lyn wonder WHY they keep wanting to shrink on you? Man I would be so upset

if something happened to my grains. Amazing how you get toward these little

boogers. lol Was it you telling me when mine was SOOOO SMALL to try picking out

3=4 of the grains and just working with those to grow them? I can't remember who

that was. They were so tiny then I couldn't tell if they were clabber milk like

stuff or grains. lol but boy now I can sure find them! lol I was thinking

yesterday though how many gallons of milk I have went through just to get them

this size. I WISH I would have kept track at how many gallons I have used. These

little boogers have some expensive taste.

Rose

[Guest guest]

OK thank you all!

Yes Lyn I bet that's exactly what it was causing them to shrink. That is

horrible about how he does the cows! I'd have to turn him in to the animal

crulity folks!

Rose

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> Rose

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> I think they shrank because I was using milk from a farmer whose cows never

see light, never get exercise, never get to graze, never get love. They are just

machines that make him money and that is all he cares about. It really breaks my

heart because cows are people, too. I love cows. I grew up on a farm.

>

> I was worried about his milk when I came here, but thot I would give him a

try. I just wish I would have quit trying when I first raised those healthy

grains out of the " dust " of curds. But I have to think of what to do and I

didn't get it together until when they were shrunken to curds again.

>

> With some help that I sought after, I have found a new farmer a couple weeks

ago and his milk is more healthy, so I put some grains and milk into my babyfood

jar. After the two-ish-week period, I strained them and the curds multiplied and

the smell was good and the milk was very pleasant tasting. I put the grains I

strained back into the jar and gave them new milk and will let them sit two more

weeks and check on them. I had hoped they would be shaped in this new milk, but

they weren't.

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> I have another jar that I will strain out every day and see which one grows

grains. Both jars were curds today.

>

> If you are going to try the babyfood jar method to store grains, just be sure

your jar does not have air. Pick a jar that allows you to keep it tight with

grains/milk. Otherwise the milk gets on the stinky side. I don't know what that

means, tho. But I would say to just keep no air in the jar and you will have

pleasant smelling and tasting kefir when you complete your month or so of rest

for the grains.

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> Lyn

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