Question

[Guest guest]

Well, I really like it when we went to see The Wiggles....... yes, it

was mostly younger kids, but if it's Ben's thing, I'd say go ahead and

take him. It's a big (very loud) crowd, and it's not like he's going to

stand out there (at least because of his age....... probably you'll

still get the DS stares, LOL) It will be more noticable when he shares

his excitement with his classmates after the concert..... It's not like

he's going to see one of his classmates there, but..........

I understand your concern about purposing putting him where he doesnt

belong, but it's music, so there isn't so much a " right " and " wrong " if

he likes the performance. Think about Disneyland..... lots of adults go

to Disneyland without kids and do the kid rides and no one thinks

twice... they go because they enjoy it.

Good luck,

, mom to (10), (8 DS), and (6)

CINDY MATTERN wrote:

>I have a questions for everyone especially those with older children. My son,

Ben, is 13 and still likes the Wiggles. It's not a problem for him to watch it

at home but they are coming to our town and my husband got upset because I don't

want him to go. I told him that he would be with a lot of preschool and

toddlers and that I don't think that it's right to purposely put him where he

doesn't belong. My husband's comment was that he will always look somewhat out

of place wherever he goes. I agree but I also don't think that we should put

him in a position where he would be out of place on purpose. Any thoughts?

>Thanks,

> Mattern

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I think about both sides of that particular 'coin' too. My 10 1/2

year loves, loves, loves Barney. When her 'typical' friends come over she

wants them to watch him together. They, of course, are thinking about pre

teen things and are not interested. Having said that, I just took to

Cincinnati to see Barney live on stage and it was truly one of the happiest

times I have spent. was so over the top excited to see him live, I

got choked up (as did my male friend whose home were staying in). The

funniest thing happened - we ended up in a row with a girl (age 10) who also

has ds. Go figure.

I would go and let Ben do what he loves. He is who he is. We just don't

know what the future holds for any of us; I'd let him live in the present

and do what he loves. He may always love the Wiggles. Some adults (I know

quite a few) still 'secretly' love Spider Man.

Just my .02.

Eleanor

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of CINDY MATTERN

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 6:42 AM

Subject: Question

I have a questions for everyone especially those with older children. My

son, Ben, is 13 and still likes the Wiggles. It's not a problem for him to

watch it at home but they are coming to our town and my husband got upset

because I don't want him to go. I told him that he would be with a lot of

preschool and toddlers and that I don't think that it's right to purposely

put him where he doesn't belong. My husband's comment was that he will

always look somewhat out of place wherever he goes. I agree but I also

don't think that we should put him in a position where he would be out of

place on purpose. Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Mattern

[Guest guest]

I have to say I would draw the line at attending the concert also.

has always loved Barney, would love to still watch it all the time, but I

had to finally draw the line. We also gave away all of our Barney stuff,

talking to her about growing up and liking new things. We also showed her the

ages listed on the tapes, 6-10. Not sure if that made a difference or not.

It is a tough thing, maturing, and a tough thing to promote, but for we

felt we had to make this decision.

Sharon H.

Mom to , (14, DS) and , (10)

South Carolina

Question

I have a questions for everyone especially those with older children. My son,

Ben, is 13 and still likes the Wiggles. It's not a problem for him to watch it

at home but they are coming to our town and my husband got upset because I don't

want him to go. I told him that he would be with a lot of preschool and

toddlers and that I don't think that it's right to purposely put him where he

doesn't belong. My husband's comment was that he will always look somewhat out

of place wherever he goes. I agree but I also don't think that we should put

him in a position where he would be out of place on purpose. Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Mattern

[Guest guest]

Eleanor wrote : I would go and let Ben do what he loves. He is who he

is. We just don't

know what the future holds for any of us; I'd let him live in the

present

and do what he loves. He may always love the Wiggles. Some adults (I

know

quite a few) still 'secretly' love Spider Man.

I agree. You know.. when we were children we wanted to be adults so we

could * do whatever we like *. But then we grow up and find that there

are all these social stigmas and labels and then we are supposed to

stop liking something just cause its labeled for younger ages.

I still love Molly and Lunette and the Big Comfy Couch. I am a AHG

leader and I do one bad " Bannana song " . Life is too short and too

serious to worry about that. Its good clean fun. It's a shame that our

14 yr olds are considered cool for rejecting Barney.. and loving Nine

Inch Nails. I also love the Wiggles. ROFL.. I do.. my kids like em..

and I love the bear song and the monkey song ( Do the Monkey owow ah ah

) And Cold Spaghetti . Granted some parent there may look at him cross

eyed. But if they KNEW someone with DS then they would understand.

Celebrate !

Steph

" Truth is not determined by a majority vote. "

-Cardinal ph Ratzinger

http://360./rnscarlson

Question

I have a questions for everyone especially those with older children.

My

son, Ben, is 13 and still likes the Wiggles. It's not a problem for him

to

watch it at home but they are coming to our town and my husband got

upset

because I don't want him to go. I told him that he would be with a lot

of

preschool and toddlers and that I don't think that it's right to

purposely

put him where he doesn't belong. My husband's comment was that he will

always look somewhat out of place wherever he goes. I agree but I also

don't think that we should put him in a position where he would be out

of

place on purpose. Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Mattern

[Guest guest]

I have a bit of a compromise with tim. He still loves a lot of what is

considered preschool type tv but he also loves more grown up stuff too so

with his peers he can talk dr who, and other fads around in the UK at the

moment but he also gets to watch the younger stuff he likes. He is lucky,

he saw the wiggles when he was only 3 or 4 and even got to speak to them

(this was when wiggles still played school halls!!). But if they turned up

in our home town I think I might still take him if he expressed a wish to do

so but I probably wouldn't travel any longer distance. At the moment he

does sunday school with 4-7 year olds (he is 12 and a half) because

intellectually that is where he is at and he was being turned off church by

staying with his peers, the subject matter was way beyond him, it was his

choice to work with these younger children once the choice was offered. I

have to admit that whether I give tim the choice in theatre shows and

concerts depends largely on whether I would be prepared myself to sit

through the show! So barney? Absolutely not, but wiggles? Yeah, them I

could listen to! I even sat through a pop concert with 'busted' in it, now

that's dedication to the parental cause!

sue wong

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of CINDY MATTERN

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 6:42 AM

Subject: Question

I have a questions for everyone especially those with older children. My

son, Ben, is 13 and still likes the Wiggles. It's not a problem for him to

watch it at home but they are coming to our town and my husband got upset

because I don't want him to go. I told him that he would be with a lot of

preschool and toddlers and that I don't think that it's right to purposely

put him where he doesn't belong. My husband's comment was that he will

always look somewhat out of place wherever he goes. I agree but I also

don't think that we should put him in a position where he would be out of

place on purpose. Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Mattern

[Guest guest]

Oh Connie I am so sorry about your hubby broken tailbone.... hope her feels

better soon

Re: Question

I went to see Slim Whitman when I was 11. What is scarier; that I was the

only kid in the audience who even knew who Slim was or that I loved him?

I agree that we want to put our kids in peer appropriate environments but I

also think that some things, such as what we like to do, is more important

than what other people think about that.

We like what we like. Ben (and Hannah and all of our kids) are always

going to look different, act different and stand out to some degree

regardless of

how much we try to influence their choices to be more like " everyone " else.

My general philosophy of life is: Go to the Wiggles and dance like a nut

ball, if that's what brings you joy. There isn't enough pure joy in this

world.

And... in retrospect, it's less frightening than learning to Yodel.

Connie

Mom to 6 completely unique people and a husband who HAS a pain in the butt

instead of being one.... (he broke his tailbone)

[Guest guest]

Ive often thought of Sydnie loving Barney until she's much older....but he

consumes her...almost to the point of just being ODD.....so they are all put up

and she gets her videos on occation but seriously thinking about moving then

alll out of the cabinet so she'll have more access (right now i have a latch on

it so her and her sister doesnt pull everyyyyyyyything out) to her other videos

but Barney has to be limited....she has at times not left her room to pee

because she's afraid of missing something....and i say nopeeeeeeee

Question

I have a questions for everyone especially those with older children. My

son, Ben, is 13 and still likes the Wiggles. It's not a problem for him to

watch it at home but they are coming to our town and my husband got upset

because I don't want him to go. I told him that he would be with a lot of

preschool and toddlers and that I don't think that it's right to purposely

put him where he doesn't belong. My husband's comment was that he will

always look somewhat out of place wherever he goes. I agree but I also

don't think that we should put him in a position where he would be out of

place on purpose. Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Mattern

[Guest guest]

They may shut off the defib portion. They just did that with . They will have plenty of people around as you have an ICD. Should go real easy.

Gail

Question Hello All: On thursday I am having an upper endosocopy with bravo. I also have a defibrillator. Will they have to shut off my ICD before the endososcopy? LeahPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

This is blood protein not urine. It is normal.

May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDClinical Professor of Internal MedicineProfessor of EpidemiologyBoard Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension

Question

Dr. GrimIn reviewing my labs found thisT.Protein 8.1 H 5.9-7.7Ca 10.0 8.7-10.2Are these any way related to PA I do believe reading about high protein in your article but not totaly sure. ita

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[Guest guest]

Hello

You ask an interesting question. Although I have no

definitive answer, I would like to discuss ideas,

since chondromalacia is not the same for everyone.

With regards to your straight leg vs doing

stairs/bending pains. I would venture to guess (and

that's all it is....a guess) that your cartilage

damage might be in an area more affected by your leg

being straight, whereas maybe the majority of people

have damage when the leg is bent due to how the

patella rides. Have you, or did you have, any problems

over the years with hyper extension?

Another reason why you might have different pains is

maybe due to muscle imbalance. There's part of me

that believes (totally unfounded, but ya know how we

get ) that muscle imbalance has quite a bit to do

with how our knees operate or not. If anyone of the

quads (usually the VMO) is weak, the other muscles may

overpower the weak one and pull the kneecap in a

lateral direction where it rides " badly " on the femur

hence creating a " wear spot " . For women (Yea, another

one of those " thanks for the wide hips, oh great

divinity " ) the hip flexors and the glutes play an

important part in how the knee operates too. All in

all, I think muscle strength and mainly balance plays

a part in where we hurt.

As far as a different dx possibility, that's always a

concern for many of us. Just to throw out ideas, if

your pain is such that your knee " locks " when it's

straight, you could have a " floater " piece of

cartilage getting in between the bones. There could be

a specific cartilage tear/break/injury. Did you do

anything like fall on your knee years ago? Any

specific jarring injury?

Lastly, if you are uncomfortable with your dx, then go

see another OS, ideally one that specializes in knees.

YOU are your best advocate, and you have to do your

homework and legwork (pardon the pun) to get answers.

Just my thoughts,

marianne

Question

I have question that has bothered me since I was first

dx with this.

Everything I have read and researched that going down

stairs and bending

makes this worse. My problem is bending doesn’t make

it worse but straighten

the leg is what hurts more. When it is sore like it is

now just putting

weight hurts doesn’t matter if it is bent or straight.

Is this common or

could there be something else wrong with the knee that

the dr haven’t notice

on the mri’s. I have commented to the dr that stairs

don’t make it worse he

just said interesting.

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[Guest guest]

I'd just like to add a couple of things to nne's message (see inside her

text)

RE: Question

>Hello

>....

>Another reason why you might have different pains is

maybe due to muscle imbalance.

My PT, who I believe is a genius, is really into this theory.

<snip>

>...Just to throw out ideas, if

>your pain is such that your knee " locks " when it's

>straight, you could have a " floater " piece of

>cartilage getting in between the bones. There could be

>a specific cartilage tear/break/injury. Did you do

>anything like fall on your knee years ago? Any

>specific jarring injury?

When I had my other partial meniscectomy (2004), the doc found a plica

sticking into the cavity. A plica is a fold in the synovial membrane, like they

gave you too much material for the membrane and just made folds instead of

taking a tuck. It had been rubbing against the femur and and the tibia and had

made chondromalacia spots. He cut it back. Plicas can also get stuck like

nne says, between the bones, and cause pain.

>Just my thoughts,

>marianne

Ann

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From: chondromalacia treatment

[mailto:chondromalacia treatment ]On

Behalf Of Ann

My PT, who I believe is a genius, is really into this

theory.

--------------------------------

Ann,

Yea, I'm pretty sold on my PT also and yes, he is

working with me on some obvious imbalances I have.

Somewhere along the line, whether I was protecting

(guarding) some other area of the knee after surgery,

or whether my extra weight was causing the imbalance,

but when I step up on a step, my good knee does a

slight, ever so slight lateral movement, whereas my

bad knee does a kamikazi movement to the medial side

(where all my pain is....surprise!) I never noticed

it before he pointed is out, so now we're working on

regaining some correct balance and gait....it's almost

like learning to walk again.

What kind of work are you doing with your PT?

nne

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the input. I was in a car accident which was when the problem was

dx. A guy ran a stop sign and I hit him yes I did hit my knee that was the

first thing I commented when I got out of the car my knees hurt (both at

that time luckily the left knee was better right away.). I am going to call

my Aunt tomorrow who has been seeing a Dr. Decatur that she likes and see if

he is on our insurance and see what he has to say about it. I really didn’t

like the last dr I went to i tried to get my G.P. to send me to a pt but

she wouldn’t do it cause the OS didn’t send her any info from when I was

there in Nov found that out Friday when I was in her office (just another

reason to find a different os)

_____

From: chondromalacia treatment

[mailto:chondromalacia treatment ] On Behalf Of MJD

Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 11:11 AM

chondromalacia treatment

Subject: RE: Question

Hello

You ask an interesting question. Although I have no

definitive answer, I would like to discuss ideas,

since chondromalacia is not the same for everyone.

With regards to your straight leg vs doing

stairs/bending pains. I would venture to guess (and

that's all it is....a guess) that your cartilage

damage might be in an area more affected by your leg

being straight, whereas maybe the majority of people

have damage when the leg is bent due to how the

patella rides. Have you, or did you have, any problems

over the years with hyper extension?

Another reason why you might have different pains is

maybe due to muscle imbalance. There's part of me

that believes (totally unfounded, but ya know how we

get ) that muscle imbalance has quite a bit to do

with how our knees operate or not. If anyone of the

quads (usually the VMO) is weak, the other muscles may

overpower the weak one and pull the kneecap in a

lateral direction where it rides " badly " on the femur

hence creating a " wear spot " . For women (Yea, another

one of those " thanks for the wide hips, oh great

divinity " ) the hip flexors and the glutes play an

important part in how the knee operates too. All in

all, I think muscle strength and mainly balance plays

a part in where we hurt.

As far as a different dx possibility, that's always a

concern for many of us. Just to throw out ideas, if

your pain is such that your knee " locks " when it's

straight, you could have a " floater " piece of

cartilage getting in between the bones. There could be

a specific cartilage tear/break/injury. Did you do

anything like fall on your knee years ago? Any

specific jarring injury?

Lastly, if you are uncomfortable with your dx, then go

see another OS, ideally one that specializes in knees.

YOU are your best advocate, and you have to do your

homework and legwork (pardon the pun) to get answers.

Just my thoughts,

marianne

Question

I have question that has bothered me since I was first

dx with this.

Everything I have read and researched that going down

stairs and bending

makes this worse. My problem is bending doesn’t make

it worse but straighten

the leg is what hurts more. When it is sore like it is

now just putting

weight hurts doesn’t matter if it is bent or straight.

Is this common or

could there be something else wrong with the knee that

the dr haven’t notice

on the mri’s. I have commented to the dr that stairs

don’t make it worse he

just said interesting.

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Posted by: " jean " <mailto:jcorzine@...?Subject=Re: Question>

jcorzine@... <jean_corzine> jean_corzine

Sat Jul 1, 2006 5:17 pm (PST)

I have question that has bothered me since I was first dx with this.

Everything I have read and researched that going down stairs and bending

makes this worse. My problem is bending doesn't make it worse but straighten

the leg is what hurts more. When it is sore like it is now just putting

weight hurts doesn't matter if it is bent or straight. Is this common or

could there be something else wrong with the knee that the dr haven't notice

on the mri's. I have commented to the dr that stairs don't make it worse he

just said interesting.

I can bend my knee pretty far, but straightening it is the killer. When I

walk, I wind up sort of walking on my toes which makes my calf hurt

tremendously. You would think that they would build up to the point of

accepting the weight without overuse but that hasn't been the case.

Steve

Where ever you may go, there you are.

[Guest guest]

Right now for me straightening is the only thing that consistently hurts. I seem

to be in a bit of lull from the bending sorts of pain, 2+ months now. But in

those places where I fully extend the leg, the push out in a skate motion, and

last night swimming in the pool at my neighbor's house, it's a real bother.

You're right I don't hear people talking about it as much but honestly, the

bending pain comes up more often in every day life.

Philip - http://www.xcskiwinn.org/community/blogs/panmanphil/default.aspx

Re: Question

Posted by: " jean " <mailto:jcorzine@...?Subject=Re: Question>

jcorzine@... <jean_corzine> jean_corzine

Sat Jul 1, 2006 5:17 pm (PST)

I have question that has bothered me since I was first dx with this.

Everything I have read and researched that going down stairs and bending

makes this worse. My problem is bending doesn't make it worse but straighten

the leg is what hurts more. When it is sore like it is now just putting

weight hurts doesn't matter if it is bent or straight. Is this common or

could there be something else wrong with the knee that the dr haven't notice

on the mri's. I have commented to the dr that stairs don't make it worse he

just said interesting.

I can bend my knee pretty far, but straightening it is the killer. When I

walk, I wind up sort of walking on my toes which makes my calf hurt

tremendously. You would think that they would build up to the point of

accepting the weight without overuse but that hasn't been the case.

Steve

Where ever you may go, there you are.

[Guest guest]

Yes I understand the walking on my toes I do that often. I find that have

learned to adapt my walking so it doesn’t hurt as much.

_____

From: chondromalacia treatment

[mailto:chondromalacia treatment ] On Behalf Of Steve

Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:59 PM

chondromalacia treatment

Subject: Re: Question

Posted by: " jean " <mailto:HYPERLINK

" mailto:jcorzine%40mchsi.com " jcorzinemchsi (DOT) -com?Subject=Re: Question>

HYPERLINK " mailto:jcorzine%40mchsi.com " jcorzinemchsi (DOT) -com <HYPERLINK

" jean_corzine " http://profiles.-/-jean_cor

zine> jean_corzine

Sat Jul 1, 2006 5:17 pm (PST)

I have question that has bothered me since I was first dx with this.

Everything I have read and researched that going down stairs and bending

makes this worse. My problem is bending doesn't make it worse but straighten

the leg is what hurts more. When it is sore like it is now just putting

weight hurts doesn't matter if it is bent or straight. Is this common or

could there be something else wrong with the knee that the dr haven't notice

on the mri's. I have commented to the dr that stairs don't make it worse he

just said interesting.

I can bend my knee pretty far, but straightening it is the killer. When I

walk, I wind up sort of walking on my toes which makes my calf hurt

tremendously. You would think that they would build up to the point of

accepting the weight without overuse but that hasn't been the case.

Steve

Where ever you may go, there you are.

[Guest guest]

Katy - I don't know if it's " improper " not to ask, but I always ask

before I put a customers comments on my site. I look at it from the

side that I would prefer to be asked before someone put my words on

their site.

Colleen

Handcrafted & Decorative Soaps

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

[Guest guest]

Ok, yeah, it's just that some of them go back a ways. I'd feel a little

silly asking them now. :-) Maybe I'll start doing it as a practice right

when I get them. Thanks Colleen!

Katy

Colleen ston wrote:

> Katy - I don't know if it's " improper " not to ask, but I always ask

> before I put a customers comments on my site. I look at it from the

> side that I would prefer to be asked before someone put my words on

> their site.

>

> Colleen

> Handcrafted & Decorative Soaps

> http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

You could always offer them a discount in exchange for using their

comments. Or just send them a discount & hope they order & comment

again.

Colleen

Handcrafted & Decorative Soaps

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

[Guest guest]

Ok, yeah, it's just that some of them go back a ways. I'd feel a

little silly asking them now. :-)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Oh what the heck Katy - go ahead and get permission from those people

- even if it was from a while ago.

Testimonials are GOLD for your business. I pepper them throughout my

website because it lets potential clients know what I've done for

other people, and that they enjoyed the service.

I say go for it.

Also - I like Colleen's idea about giving a discount in exchange for

their testimonial. I usually offer to provide a link to the person's

web site along with their comment - it's free advertising and more

exposure. I like the idea of a discount though... hmmm... maybe a

percentage off their next class or something... Thanks for mentioning

that Colleen!

Warmly,

Jenn

Business Empowerment Coach

Create a Powerful Business.

How valuable is a niche to your business?

http://www.jgivlercoaching.com/find_your_niche.htm

[Guest guest]

Shaye;

No I would think ist a seed Oil!!!

Because it is a seed of a fruit.

Gabby

>

> Question.... Is Apricot Kernal oil considered a nut oil? Since its

not

> really a nut???

> Thanks!

> Shaye

>

[Guest guest]

Sam....

Yes there is! I can email you some links

Gabby

>

> Isn't there a web site that tells you the technical terms for

regular

> ingredients... for labeling products...

>

> ???????? HELP

>

> Sam

>

[Guest guest]

Wow Gabby, This thread is from waaaaayy waaaay WAAAAAY WAYYYYY back

yonder!!!

Shaye

Re: Question

Shaye;

No I would think ist a seed Oil!!!

Because it is a seed of a fruit.

Gabby

>

> Question.... Is Apricot Kernal oil considered a nut oil? Since its

not

> really a nut???

> Thanks!

> Shaye

>

[Guest guest]

LMAO I know I just now realized......I had no clue old articles

would come back up like this lol. I will pay better attion ty lol

Gabby

> >

> > Question.... Is Apricot Kernal oil considered a nut oil? Since

its

> not

> > really a nut???

> > Thanks!

> > Shaye

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL Too funny!!!!! Leave it to good ole !!!

Shaye

Re: Question

LMAO I know I just now realized......I had no clue old articles

would come back up like this lol. I will pay better attion ty lol

Gabby

> >

> > Question.... Is Apricot Kernal oil considered a nut oil? Since

its

> not

> > really a nut???

> > Thanks!

> > Shaye

> >

>

>

>

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>

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