Guest guest Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Hi Laurie, You wrote: >>When I strain the grains, I shake the strainer side to side to get the kefir through it. I think this gets the extra " goo " off the grains and they're staying smaller (there is growth). Does this sound right? This would be one way to keep from increasing the quantity to quickly? update - I lightly strained the grains yesterday and used more milk for the next batch. This morning I had another batch ready. A little whey on the bottom and very thick curd on top. I have to stir or it's too thick to strain. So I think by not thoroughly straining the grains, it does produce more kefir. << It can be a little difficult to separate the grains from the curd when you have more separation. Full separation begins when you see a complete layer of whey at the bottom as opposed to just a few little pockets of separation that begin to form some time after the milk sets. The deeper the whey layer, the more separated your kefir is, and the closer you are to making cheese as opposed to kefir. If the curds cling to the grains after you pour it out into the strainer, you can take a spoon and scoop beneath the grains repeatedly in the strainer. This will force the kefir curd through the strainer without smashing the grains too much, while still getting most of the kefir off the grains. Eventually all the kefir will get through and your grains will remain in the strainer. >>Generally there has been a little whey on the bottom of the jar which I read on here was the perfect time to strain. This morning I had about an inch of whey and on top 2 inches of solid kefir. I mixed it up and strained. Is this ok?<< Yes, that is perfectly okay. >>Will it still thicken in the refrigerator? If this happens in the future what should I do? update- I kept the kefir and it really didn't thicken with the large amount of whey. Should I discard some of the whey when there's a lot? Does it have nutritional value?<< I have found that to be the case as well. When the whey starts separating, the resulting kefir doesn't have the consistency I prefer. Try adjusting the amount of grains so that after 24 hours the milk is set with maybe a little (pea sized) pocket or two of whey instead of a whole layer. What I do if it separates, is make cheese and use the whey for other purposes or give it to the dogs. If you haven't already, have a look at my little video on making a single serving of kefir. You can see in the demo that the kefir isn’t separated, but it is set. Straining before there is much more separation than just a pocket or two results in a really nice consistency of kefir. >>How long does kefir keep in the refrigerator? I'm using paturized organinc whole milk - NOT ultra-pasturized. << Kefir preserves the milk for a long time. It will continue to culture even when separated and refrigerated, so it doesn’t go bad. It could last for months. Go by how it smells and tastes. >>Is there a ratio of kefir to milk to preserve for close to a week in the refrigerator? << Not specifically. It would be fine if you just cover with milk, but you might try using half your regular amount and see how you like the kefir it makes when you take them out again. It’s not that critical, really, though some say that keeping kefir grains long term in the fridge can unbalance them. It really depends on your individual culture. There was a woman I spoke with who said her daughter makes all her kefir in the refrigerator, straining every 4 days and it makes wonderful creamy kefir. But she was never able to duplicate her daughter’s success with the refrigerator method, so she had to use the regular room temp method that most of the rest of us use. Either way, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Warm regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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