Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Me too, please. Obie. Re: Fw: diabetes > > In a message dated 5/30/01 4:40:13 PM, ruthful@... writes: > > << Solution To Sugar Problems Found Written On Dried Palm Leaf In Ancient > Sanskrit! >> > > I had a little problem finding the name of this product but finally figured it > is called Anti-Betic (it's not mentioned till the end of the article). Saul > Says Gymnema Sylvestre is effective and the article mentions it many times, > but Not as one of the ingredients of Anti-Betic...I assume it is one, or is > all > of them, or something. I am really interested in this -- wish the article was > a little clearer.. would be interested in any further material on this. > dorothy > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 HAPPY BIRTHDAY RYAN!!!!!!!!! Diabetes > HI Everyone: > > I'm trying to compile a brief educational tool for my fellow > dietitians and diabetes educators regarding support for people with > Down syndrome who have diabetes. > > If your child (any age) has diabetes and you would like to assist me, > please email me at: > > foodlady@... > > Some of my questions include: > --what were the symptoms you saw in your child? > --what kind of support has been the most helpful to you and to your > child? > --given the opportunity what would you say to a group of > professionals who are supposed to be helping families like yours? > > Thanks! > > Joan E. Guthrie Medlen, R.D., L.D. > Mom to (15 this saturday!) and Andy (12 1/2 DS/asd) > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and photos of our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other information by including them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record of the archives for our list. > -------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 At 09:24 PM 7/19/01 -0700, you wrote: >HAPPY BIRTHDAY >RYAN!!!!!!!!! and he wants to DRIVE! ACK!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 My 17 year old has NO desire to drive. I don't get it!!!! Re: Diabetes > At 09:24 PM 7/19/01 -0700, you wrote: > >HAPPY BIRTHDAY > >RYAN!!!!!!!!! > > > > and he wants to DRIVE! ACK!!!!!!!!!! > > -------------------------------------------------- > Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and photos of our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other information by including them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record of the archives for our list. > -------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 At 09:44 PM 7/19/01 -0700, you wrote: >My 17 year old has NO desire to drive. I don't get it!!!! I'll TRADE you!!! signed, neurotic in OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 well happy birthday ryan!!!! doesnt have diabetes but its a very neat thing your doing, i often question weather he has it or not, he is sooooo thristy all the time, but we cant go by the polyuria, he retains it for hours unless we make him go, somedays though he will have several incidents of wetting usually in a row, he usually just changes his clothes and carries on. and the hungry issue, dont get me started there,(LONG) Often he is " huuungy mom " saying it and signing it simutaneously, he does better when i make him eat his supper of REAL food. We finally got him to eat with little to no gagging and actually chewing his food...he kept refusing his food, then would try to swallow whole and the tips the dietitian gave didnt work and didnt work, so finally, since the rewards didnt work either we decided to punish him, we gave him few minutes to start eating on his own with great encouragement as usual, then said he he doesnt eat he can go to bed, he refused to eat as usual, even when i tried to feed him so we sent him to bed for about 5-10minutes wasnt real long and I went and checked on him and he was crying and mentioning " games " (as usual anything besides the subject at hand) and I said " well are you ready to eat? " he said " ya " and I remeinded him he can eat then play games, so he rushed down stairs and he ate chewing each bite slowly as i helped show him how to chew, he has continued this same routine all week, im hoping soon he will forgo the sent to room stuff, and just eat like a big boy, I only give him a table spoon of each item and then he gets a bite of PB sandwich after each bite(reward food)so there is no reason for him not to eat the good healthy food, and I remeind him often he just ate when he keeps insisting he is hungry, but UIHC keeps insisting this is normal for ds, and he isnt diabetic, when they've never even done a bloodsugar, i should barrow some of grandpas and just see. hmmmm. shawna. > Diabetes > > > HI Everyone: > > I'm trying to compile a brief educational tool for my fellow > dietitians and diabetes educators regarding support for people with > Down syndrome who have diabetes. > > If your child (any age) has diabetes and you would like to assist me, > please email me at: > > foodlady@... > > Some of my questions include: > --what were the symptoms you saw in your child? > --what kind of support has been the most helpful to you and to your > child? > --given the opportunity what would you say to a group of > professionals who are supposed to be helping families like yours? > > Thanks! > > Joan E. Guthrie Medlen, R.D., L.D. > Mom to (15 this saturday!) and Andy (12 1/2 DS/asd) > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and > photos of our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other > information by including them. Don't forget, messages are a > permanent record of the archives for our list. > > > -------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 In a message dated 7/20/2001 8:33:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, greenpak@... writes: > Often he is > " huuungy mom " saying it and signing it simutaneously, he does better when i > make him eat his supper of REAL food. We finally got him to eat with little > to no gagging and actually chewing his food...he kept refusing his food, > then would try to swallow whole and the tips the dietitian gave didnt work > and didnt work, so finally, since the rewards didnt work either we decided > to punish him, we gave him few minutes to start eating on his own with great > encouragement as usual, then said he he doesnt eat he can go to bed, he > Ray went through a period of rapid growing, eating tons about 15 then it just stopped and now we have to fight to get him to eat and he loses weight from time to time. Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 I understand those aspects, and I think nathan may be going through a grwoth spurt lately, he is always hungry, but he insists on the same old junk of hotdogs or pizza or grilled cheese, and its not fair for nicholas to have to eat what everyone else eats, and not nathan. And our supper time is probably the best and most nurticious meal that we sit together visit and eat thats why we want nathan to at the least eat one table spoon of each thing--and there is usually only 3-4 items, plus he needs to work on his chewing and swallowing skills.And everything we have tried in the past has failed, this just happen to work, i have changed it a little though, instead of his room he has to sit on the stairs, and it works just fine, after a few minutes he comes back and eats very well, even chews his food pretty good, little gagging.And nathan still gets his reward of choice after eating. shawna >From: Peggylou46@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Diabetes >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:42:03 EDT > >In a message dated 7/20/2001 8:33:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >greenpak@... writes: > > > > Often he is > > " huuungy mom " saying it and signing it simutaneously, he does better >when i > > make him eat his supper of REAL food. We finally got him to eat with >little > > to no gagging and actually chewing his food...he kept refusing his food, > > then would try to swallow whole and the tips the dietitian gave didnt >work > > and didnt work, so finally, since the rewards didnt work either we >decided > > to punish him, we gave him few minutes to start eating on his own with >great > > encouragement as usual, then said he he doesnt eat he can go to bed, he > > > > Ray went through a period of rapid growing, eating tons about 15 then >it just stopped and now we have to fight to get him to eat and he loses >weight from time to time. Peggy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Ikle wrote: I am not an expert in diabetes but I understand that Type 1 (which now has a subtype of slow onset, called Type 1.5) is an autoimmune disorder . . . **** I'm no expert on the subject either. Does anyone on the list know more about this subtype? When thinking of youngsters I know who were diagnosed with diabetes, two of my former neighbors (brothers) were about 6 or 7 at the time it was discovered. My neice was 16 when her (what seemed like) rather sudden symptomatology caused my brother to haul her to the doctor. One wonders if her diabetes was present for years before that only no one knew it. I don't ever remember being given any tests for diabetes as a kid. Is it standard procedure now? In looking back on the elder of the two neighbor boys, there was certainly some symptomotology there although it manifested itself in ways that diabetes would have been a difficult diagnosis, or at least by someone who didn't know what to look for. The biggest change those of us who knew him noticed immediately was in personality. He seemed to be geting crankier with age, demanding his father's attention, and when not getting it, throwing a tantrum of sorts. We all chalked it up to sibling rivalry. But this was not the case. When he was finally diagnosed and started on insulin, he turned into the sweetest kid you could imagine. He is now a very handsome, well educated and polite young man. My neice never had other than her (what the family called) " buzzette " personality. She suddenly felt lousy, couldn't get enough to drink and was eating like a horse. But until that time there were no apparent clues that something was amiss. My questions would be that if the diabetes is slower in onset is it easier to manage, i.e. not as severe? My neice seems to have little problem controlling hers although maybe this is due to the fact that she is a young adult. Rosemary Wedderburn-Vernon Marina del Rey, CA IronRoses@... http://home.earthlink.net/~chuckietechie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Ikle wrote: I am not an expert in diabetes but I understand that Type 1 (which now has a subtype of slow onset, called Type 1.5) is an autoimmune disorder . . . **** I'm no expert on the subject either. Does anyone on the list know more about this subtype? When thinking of youngsters I know who were diagnosed with diabetes, two of my former neighbors (brothers) were about 6 or 7 at the time it was discovered. My neice was 16 when her (what seemed like) rather sudden symptomatology caused my brother to haul her to the doctor. One wonders if her diabetes was present for years before that only no one knew it. I don't ever remember being given any tests for diabetes as a kid. Is it standard procedure now? In looking back on the elder of the two neighbor boys, there was certainly some symptomotology there although it manifested itself in ways that diabetes would have been a difficult diagnosis, or at least by someone who didn't know what to look for. The biggest change those of us who knew him noticed immediately was in personality. He seemed to be geting crankier with age, demanding his father's attention, and when not getting it, throwing a tantrum of sorts. We all chalked it up to sibling rivalry. But this was not the case. When he was finally diagnosed and started on insulin, he turned into the sweetest kid you could imagine. He is now a very handsome, well educated and polite young man. My neice never had other than her (what the family called) " buzzette " personality. She suddenly felt lousy, couldn't get enough to drink and was eating like a horse. But until that time there were no apparent clues that something was amiss. My questions would be that if the diabetes is slower in onset is it easier to manage, i.e. not as severe? My neice seems to have little problem controlling hers although maybe this is due to the fact that she is a young adult. Rosemary Wedderburn-Vernon Marina del Rey, CA IronRoses@... http://home.earthlink.net/~chuckietechie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 Dot, I haven't heard of Stills actually causing diabetes or medications but I am not a doctor. Have you gotten diabetes? I hope not, but if so let us know. I know I have other medical issues over the years and often wonder if medications might be the cause. Hope your day is well, Melt ----- Original Message ----- From: dorothy galletta I was just courious, has anyone developed diabetes from stills or maybe from taking Prednisone? Dot (CA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 In a message dated 04/01/2003 9:39:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, elizabethgalletta@... writes: Yes, I just got diagnosed last April I was diagnosed about 2 years ago, I control mine so far with diet and exercise. I am not on prednisone, so it is just my body and endocrine problems.... Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 Yes, after many years on prednisone and a large weight gain. I am losing some weight and the diabetes is under much better control, Louise. dorothy galletta wrote: > Hi All.... > > I was just courious, has anyone developed diabetes from stills or > maybe from taking Prednisone? > > Dot (CA) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 Yes, after many years on prednisone and a large weight gain. I am losing some weight and the diabetes is under much better control, Louise. dorothy galletta wrote: > Hi All.... > > I was just courious, has anyone developed diabetes from stills or > maybe from taking Prednisone? > > Dot (CA) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 , She is actually bringing it to my house, and I am going to type in the information, the links, the book names, the articles, etc, and will give it to anyone who wants it, including you!!! ~hugs~ Rabecca > In a message dated 11/16/04 9:00:13 PM Central Standard Time, > Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes: > > > a horrid person for the rest of the day and sometimes the next!!!) > > > > Again, P is going to get all the info together today and tomarrow and > > I am hoping to pass it on to you then!!! > > Rabecca > > Is this something your friend P is sending to you online? > Can I have this also, if this is sent online? I would love that. > If that is possible, I would like to read up in this area. Thanks much. > hugs > in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 anne, You might want to try adding about 1/2 t of cinnamon. Sprinkle it on cereal, or whatever...make a tea. Take care, Jane ----- Original Message ----- I was diagnosed in 2000 with Type 2. Since then I've shed over 22kg (more than 45lbs). I have never, EVER been able to get my bg's in the " normal " range despite diet, exercise, meds, insulin. I'm happy if I can keep my #'s under 180. I know it's not as 'tight' as it should be but I'm not going to let this damned disease rule my life! I control what I put in my mouth but my body doesn't behave when it comes to bg's! anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Ordinary, everyday, off the shelf cinnamon? This is one I haven't tried. anne Re: Re: diabetes anne, You might want to try adding about 1/2 t of cinnamon. Sprinkle it on cereal, or whatever...make a tea. Take care, Jane ----- Original Message ----- I was diagnosed in 2000 with Type 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 anne, Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask her. I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes, and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never tried it. Hope I can fill you in soon! Take care, Jane Re: Re: diabetes anne, You might want to try adding about 1/2 t of cinnamon. Sprinkle it on cereal, or whatever...make a tea. Take care, Jane ----- Original Message ----- I was diagnosed in 2000 with Type 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Thank you Jane! anne Re: Re: diabetes anne, Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask her. I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes, and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never tried it. Hope I can fill you in soon! Take care, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I think that she might have something there anne. I don't know it for certain. But I have a family history of diabetes. Father and Sister both type 2. Me, nadda. In fact my blood sugars are in the low normal range. Even during treatment. I have all the risk factors against me. Overweight, treatment,family history etc. But I never thought of it. I am a cinnamon nut. I eat cinnamon toast alot. Eat it on my oatmeal, I eat oatmeal for breakfast most every morning. Cause it is easy!! Cinnamon in my coffee, takes the bitterness out. And it taste good. And my daughter likes warm milk before bed. So I join her in a cup with cinnamon. Hmmmmm it is a thought. Love Janet anne <kanga2@...> wrote: Thank you Jane! anne Re: Re: diabetes anne, Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask her. I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes, and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never tried it. Hope I can fill you in soon! Take care, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't have the energy to go hunting through the posts. What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have a friend who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and would love to pass this information on to him. Thanks, > Thank you Jane! > > anne > Re: Re: diabetes > > > anne, > > Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for > you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask > her. > > I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes, > and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never > tried it. > > Hope I can fill you in soon! > > Take care, > Jane > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Here is a little something I just found its not indepth but it does give ya an ideal of why its beneficial for diabetes Recent studies show that consuming Cinnamon each day may reduce blood sugar, cholesterol, and triglyceride levels by as much as 20% in Type II diabetes moondancerx1 <moondancerx1@...> wrote: I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't have the energy to go hunting through the posts. What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have a friend who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and would love to pass this information on to him. Thanks, > Thank you Jane! > > anne > Re: Re: diabetes > > > anne, > > Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for > you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask > her. > > I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes, > and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never > tried it. > > Hope I can fill you in soon! > > Take care, > Jane > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Hi , It's a good thing you didn't go searching, because I don't have the specific info yet! lol I need to check with the woman who told me about it last week for specifics, and will post them in a day or two. Take care, Jane Duh! I don't even know who I am! When I first put the name after " Take care, " I signed it " " Anyone need some extra air? I have plenty in my head! Re: diabetes I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't have the energy to go hunting through the posts. What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have a friend who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and would love to pass this information on to him. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Several studies have shown that cinnamon, up to a gram a day, can, that's CAN, have a blood sugar lowering effect. It doesn't work for everyone, but for some it works very well. It has a minor to moderate effect for me. Some people go to the extent of finding empty gelatin capsules and stuffing them with cinnamon off the shelf. If you are going to do that, use the bulk cinnamon. The studies also showed it didn't matter at all what kind of cinnamon, just any table cinnamon will do. Sally Re: diabetes I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't have the energy to go hunting through the posts. What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have a friend who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and would love to pass this information on to him. Thanks, > Thank you Jane! > > anne > Re: Re: diabetes > > > anne, > > Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for > you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask > her. > > I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes, > and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never > tried it. > > Hope I can fill you in soon! > > Take care, > Jane > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Here are some citations from PubMed. Isolation and characterization of polyphenol type-A polymers from cinnamon with insulin-like biological activity. http://tinyurl.com/7dcrj Cinnamon improves glucose and lipids of people with type 2 diabetes. http://tinyurl.com/a7dxg (full text of this one is available free online) Insulin-like biological activity of culinary and medicinal plant aqueous extracts in vitro. http://tinyurl.com/bohvr This one says cinnamon is most effective of the substances tested, followed by witch hazel, green and black teas, allspice, bay leaves, nutmeg, cloves, mushrooms, and brewer's yeast. I use cinnamon and green and white teas. Mushrooms when I can afford them. Others, such as ginseng and flax seed meal were found to be minimally effective. The evaluation of long-term effects of cinnamon bark and olive leaf on toxicity induced by streptozotocin administration to rats. http://tinyurl.com/cztlu Regulation of PTP-1 and insulin receptor kinase by fractions from cinnamon: implications for cinnamon regulation of insulin signalling. http://tinyurl.com/dmc8n And to stay on topic, Hepatitis C virus infection can present with metabolic disease by inducing insulin resistance. http://tinyurl.com/dcqah Extrahepatic manifestations and insulin resistance in an HCV hyperendemic area. http://tinyurl.com/bm8od Late development of diabetes mellitus after interferon-alfa and ribavirin therapy for chronic hepatitis C: a case report. http://tinyurl.com/93fc7 Hyperglycemia among persons with hepatitis C: Not the classical diabetic phenotype. http://tinyurl.com/bslc6 Causal relationship between hepatitis C virus core and the development of type 2 diabetes mellitus in a hepatitis C virus hyperendemic area: a pilot study. http://tinyurl.com/7na24 Factors associated with the presence of nonalcoholic steatohepatitis in patients with chronic hepatitis C. http://tinyurl.com/bkydy Diabetes increases the risk of hepatocellular carcinoma in the United States: a population based case control study. http://tinyurl.com/837vt Hepatitis C virus infection can present with metabolic disease by inducing insulin resistance. http://tinyurl.com/ay28p Insulin resistance plays a significant role in liver fibrosis in chronic hepatitis C and in the response to antiviral therapy. http://tinyurl.com/c7zds For starters. Sal Re: Re: diabetes Hi , It's a good thing you didn't go searching, because I don't have the specific info yet! lol I need to check with the woman who told me about it last week for specifics, and will post them in a day or two. Take care, Jane Duh! I don't even know who I am! When I first put the name after " Take care, " I signed it " " Anyone need some extra air? I have plenty in my head! Re: diabetes I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't have the energy to go hunting through the posts. What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have a friend who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and would love to pass this information on to him. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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