Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I have been reading my Alternative Health Magazine and there is an article about a product called 'insulow " and its supposed to help with Insulin Resistance,, I dont know a lot about it yet, but you can go and read at their site www.insulow.com I dont know if its legit or not, but just came across it,, jax Sally Hines <shines@...> wrote: Here are some citations from PubMed. Isolation and characterization of polyphenol type-A polymers from cinnamon with insulin-like biological activity. http://tinyurl.com/7dcrj Cinnamon improves glucose and lipids of people with type 2 diabetes. http://tinyurl.com/a7dxg (full text of this one is available free online) Insulin-like biological activity of culinary and medicinal plant aqueous extracts in vitro. http://tinyurl.com/bohvr This one says cinnamon is most effective of the substances tested, followed by witch hazel, green and black teas, allspice, bay leaves, nutmeg, cloves, mushrooms, and brewer's yeast. I use cinnamon and green and white teas. Mushrooms when I can afford them. Others, such as ginseng and flax seed meal were found to be minimally effective. The evaluation of long-term effects of cinnamon bark and olive leaf on toxicity induced by streptozotocin administration to rats. http://tinyurl.com/cztlu Regulation of PTP-1 and insulin receptor kinase by fractions from cinnamon: implications for cinnamon regulation of insulin signalling. http://tinyurl.com/dmc8n And to stay on topic, Hepatitis C virus infection can present with metabolic disease by inducing insulin resistance. http://tinyurl.com/dcqah Extrahepatic manifestations and insulin resistance in an HCV hyperendemic area. http://tinyurl.com/bm8od Late development of diabetes mellitus after interferon-alfa and ribavirin therapy for chronic hepatitis C: a case report. http://tinyurl.com/93fc7 Hyperglycemia among persons with hepatitis C: Not the classical diabetic phenotype. http://tinyurl.com/bslc6 Causal relationship between hepatitis C virus core and the development of type 2 diabetes mellitus in a hepatitis C virus hyperendemic area: a pilot study. http://tinyurl.com/7na24 Factors associated with the presence of nonalcoholic steatohepatitis in patients with chronic hepatitis C. http://tinyurl.com/bkydy Diabetes increases the risk of hepatocellular carcinoma in the United States: a population based case control study. http://tinyurl.com/837vt Hepatitis C virus infection can present with metabolic disease by inducing insulin resistance. http://tinyurl.com/ay28p Insulin resistance plays a significant role in liver fibrosis in chronic hepatitis C and in the response to antiviral therapy. http://tinyurl.com/c7zds For starters. Sal Re: Re: diabetes Hi , It's a good thing you didn't go searching, because I don't have the specific info yet! lol I need to check with the woman who told me about it last week for specifics, and will post them in a day or two. Take care, Jane Duh! I don't even know who I am! When I first put the name after " Take care, " I signed it " " Anyone need some extra air? I have plenty in my head! Re: diabetes I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't have the energy to go hunting through the posts. What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have a friend who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and would love to pass this information on to him. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Who is selling this product, and for how much? I've used r-lipoic acid, but didn't find it as helpful as sustained release alpha-lipoic acid. I take 2400 mg of ALA daily, split into 3 doses. I take 15 milligrams of biotin daily, also split into 3 doses. Most biotin is provided in micrograms. I've not found the r-lipoic acid in sustained release forumlation. The lipoic acids when ingested are only available to the body for an hour or so. Even the sustained release is decreasing in strength within 12 hours. This is similar to the pattern for my neurontin that I take for neuropathy, so I take them at the same time. I don't see anything bad about the supplement, just that I'd have to take a LOT of it to get what is theraputic for me. Sally RE: Re: diabetes I have been reading my Alternative Health Magazine and there is an article about a product called 'insulow " and its supposed to help with Insulin Resistance,, I dont know a lot about it yet, but you can go and read at their site www.insulow.com I dont know if its legit or not, but just came across it,, jax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Rob, Actually, I believe there has been some published work around training and diabetes (as an auto-immune disorder). I can't find a link right off the top, but I seem to recall that training up alpha activity was involved. Pete > > From: " robzewald " <praktijk@...> > Date: 2006/06/22 Thu PM 04:26:11 EDT > > Subject: diabetes > > I wonder, for a lecture I have to perform, if there is any experience > with neurofeedback and diabetes (1 or 2). Because the hypofyse will be > involved it should make sense that the brain reacts? > Rob Zewald > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Rob All I know of is some anecdotal evidence re training with Roshi having a beneficial effect on maintaining good blood sugar levels On Jun 22, 2006, at 3:26 PM, robzewald wrote: > I wonder, for a lecture I have to perform, if there is any experience > with neurofeedback and diabetes (1 or 2). Because the hypofyse will be > involved it should make sense that the brain reacts? > Rob Zewald > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 There has been some research on type 1 diabetes focusing on whether or not it is an autoimmune process. There is some evidence that in some cases the bodies immune system attacks the cells in the pancreas that produce insulin, Type 2 diabetes is a whole different thing, The pancreas still produces insulin in sufficient quantity by the muscle tissue has lost the ability to metabolize the insulin, I have seen no references to Type 2 diabetes as an autoimmune disorder, On Jun 22, 2006, at 7:20 PM, Van Deusen wrote: > Rob, > > Actually, I believe there has been some published work around training > and diabetes (as an auto-immune disorder). I can't find a link right > off the top, but I seem to recall that training up alpha activity was > involved. > > Pete > >> >> From: " robzewald " <praktijk@...> >> Date: 2006/06/22 Thu PM 04:26:11 EDT >> >> Subject: diabetes >> >> I wonder, for a lecture I have to perform, if there is any experience >> with neurofeedback and diabetes (1 or 2). Because the hypofyse will be >> involved it should make sense that the brain reacts? >> Rob Zewald >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 I had a client who we were training to reduce panic attacks and relieve his insomnia, who has diabetes. We mostly used F4, alpha up, theta down, and some occipital alpha theta. He reported that his blood suger levels greatly stabilized after this. We thought it might be a benefit of lowering his anxieties and helping him sleep better. --------- diabetes>>>> I wonder, for a lecture I have to perform, if there is any experience>> with neurofeedback and diabetes (1 or 2). Because the hypofyse will be>> involved it should make sense that the brain reacts?>> Rob Zewald>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Auto-immune would be Type 1. Foxx diabetes> > I wonder, for a lecture I have to perform, if there is any experience > with neurofeedback and diabetes (1 or 2). Because the hypofyse will be > involved it should make sense that the brain reacts? > Rob Zewald> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 , interesting post.What type diabetes was it? Any idea what impact it appeared to have on his A1C blood test, the test that indicates glucose levels over two or three months. Anyone one else with experience out there? There have been anecdotal reports over the years that fit with 's report. It would be highly useful to see what more anecdeotal evidence exists.Steve (near Seattle) On Jun 22, 2006, at 7:00 PM, anchorpoint@... wrote: I had a client who we were training to reduce panic attacks and relieve his insomnia, who has diabetes. We mostly used F4, alpha up, theta down, and some occipital alpha theta. He reported that his blood suger levels greatly stabilized after this. We thought it might be a benefit of lowering his anxieties and helping him sleep better.  --------- diabetes>>>> I wonder, for a lecture I have to perform, if there is any experience>> with neurofeedback and diabetes (1 or 2). Because the hypofyse will be>> involved it should make sense that the brain reacts?>> Rob Zewald>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Here are your federal tax dollars at work for diabetes. http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/alternativetherapies/ > > Auto-immune would be Type 1. > > Foxx > > > diabetes > > > > I wonder, for a lecture I have to perform, if there is any experience > > with neurofeedback and diabetes (1 or 2). Because the hypofyse will be > > > involved it should make sense that the brain reacts? > > Rob Zewald > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome and sympathetic nervous system hyperarousal; low serotonin; cortisol, catecholamine, leptina and insuling dysregulation; are all related. I consider NF a valuable tool for type 2 diabetes. > > > Rob, > > > > Actually, I believe there has been some published work around training > > and diabetes (as an auto-immune disorder). I can't find a link right > > off the top, but I seem to recall that training up alpha activity was > > involved. > > > > Pete > > > >> > >> From: " robzewald " <praktijk@...> > >> Date: 2006/06/22 Thu PM 04:26:11 EDT > >> > >> Subject: diabetes > >> > >> I wonder, for a lecture I have to perform, if there is any experience > >> with neurofeedback and diabetes (1 or 2). Because the hypofyse will be > >> involved it should make sense that the brain reacts? > >> Rob Zewald > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:03:41 +0100 (BST), " " <guitar_johnson@...> said: > I s Kombucha cure for diabetes???? > if so,can send me the details about it. > If anyone can shed in their formula or the receipe for cure of > diabetes using kombucha would be of grt help. > if u can send me the experiment ,would be also a great help. I have diabetes and I have searched for controlled studies of KT and diabetes and I can find none. I wish I could claim that my blood sugar numbers reflected a positive correlation, but since eating healthfully also has positive effects on blood sugar readings, I can't make that claim. Lang -- Lang annalang@... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:03:41 +0100 (BST), " " <guitar_johnson@...> said: > I s Kombucha cure for diabetes???? > if so,can send me the details about it. > If anyone can shed in their formula or the receipe for cure of > diabetes using kombucha would be of grt help. > if u can send me the experiment ,would be also a great help. I have diabetes and I have searched for controlled studies of KT and diabetes and I can find none. I wish I could claim that my blood sugar numbers reflected a positive correlation, but since eating healthfully also has positive effects on blood sugar readings, I can't make that claim. Lang -- Lang annalang@... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Hi and EveryOne, Kombucha is not a cure for anything!!! Kombucha is a food,- not a medicine and as a food, it does seem to bring many benefits to some of the people who use it. You can find information about the use of Kombucha for people with Diabetes in the Kombucha Threads folder found in the FILES section of the list home page. Just click the link on the left labeled FILES> kombucha tea/ Some people over the years, including Ariana, reported that Kombucha helped people who had Cancer. These posts are probably in the list archives you can find them by going to the messages section and searching { " Kombucha and Cancer " . kombucha tea/messages Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev -- In kombucha tea , <guitar_johnson@...> wrote: > > I s Kombucha cure for diabetes???? > if so,can send me the details about it. > If anyone can shed in their formula or the receipe for cure of diabetes using kombucha would be of grt help. > if u can send me the experiment ,would be also a great help. > > thanks, > johnson > > > --------------------------------- > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Hi and EveryOne, Kombucha is not a cure for anything!!! Kombucha is a food,- not a medicine and as a food, it does seem to bring many benefits to some of the people who use it. You can find information about the use of Kombucha for people with Diabetes in the Kombucha Threads folder found in the FILES section of the list home page. Just click the link on the left labeled FILES> kombucha tea/ Some people over the years, including Ariana, reported that Kombucha helped people who had Cancer. These posts are probably in the list archives you can find them by going to the messages section and searching { " Kombucha and Cancer " . kombucha tea/messages Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev -- In kombucha tea , <guitar_johnson@...> wrote: > > I s Kombucha cure for diabetes???? > if so,can send me the details about it. > If anyone can shed in their formula or the receipe for cure of diabetes using kombucha would be of grt help. > if u can send me the experiment ,would be also a great help. > > thanks, > johnson > > > --------------------------------- > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 *Kombucha is not a cure for anything!!! Kombucha is a food,- not a medicine and as a food, it does seem to bring many benefits to some of the people who use it.* I think this may be what is causing some disagreement on this forum. Kombucha does NOT cure diseases. But it creates, through providing essential nutrients and by alkalinizing the body, and environment in which health flourishes and many adverse health conditions decrease or are completely alleviated. My 2 friends with MS are so noticeably improved that people are commenting on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 *Kombucha is not a cure for anything!!! Kombucha is a food,- not a medicine and as a food, it does seem to bring many benefits to some of the people who use it.* I think this may be what is causing some disagreement on this forum. Kombucha does NOT cure diseases. But it creates, through providing essential nutrients and by alkalinizing the body, and environment in which health flourishes and many adverse health conditions decrease or are completely alleviated. My 2 friends with MS are so noticeably improved that people are commenting on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:33:24 -0000, " yoganandaom " <OM@...> said: > Kombucha is not a cure for anything!!! Kombucha is a food,- not a > medicine and as a food, it does seem to bring many benefits to some of > the people who use it. Thank you for this perspective. I appreciate it. So I guess it won't cure my gray hair? A pity! I do so miss the brown. Lang -- Lang annalang@... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:33:24 -0000, " yoganandaom " <OM@...> said: > Kombucha is not a cure for anything!!! Kombucha is a food,- not a > medicine and as a food, it does seem to bring many benefits to some of > the people who use it. Thank you for this perspective. I appreciate it. So I guess it won't cure my gray hair? A pity! I do so miss the brown. Lang -- Lang annalang@... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 *So I guess it won't cure my gray hair? A pity! I do so miss the brown. Lang* I know what you mean about the genetics---but what if what you inherited was the *tendency* to gray (or silver!) early due to certain dietary deficiencies? An example of this in my goats is the fact that dark haired goats, like dark haired people, have a much higher requirement for dietary copper. When I supplemented dietary copper for the first time, reddish brown goats turned coal black! Brown chamoisees developed strong black facial, leg, and martingale markings! Quite amazing! Blessings, Jill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 *So I guess it won't cure my gray hair? A pity! I do so miss the brown. Lang* I know what you mean about the genetics---but what if what you inherited was the *tendency* to gray (or silver!) early due to certain dietary deficiencies? An example of this in my goats is the fact that dark haired goats, like dark haired people, have a much higher requirement for dietary copper. When I supplemented dietary copper for the first time, reddish brown goats turned coal black! Brown chamoisees developed strong black facial, leg, and martingale markings! Quite amazing! Blessings, Jill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:31:10 -0000, " lillisilly " <evangelnet@...> said: > I know what you mean about the genetics---but what if what you > inherited was the *tendency* to gray (or silver!) early due to certain > dietary deficiencies? Never even thought about. I've never had a dietary deficiency in my life so it never occurred to me. > An example of this in my goats is the fact that dark haired goats, like > dark haired people, have a much higher requirement for dietary copper. > When I supplemented dietary copper for the first time, reddish brown > goats turned coal black! Brown chamoisees developed strong black > facial, leg, and martingale markings! How fascinating. Dietary copper? Does KT supply dietary copper? I really have to find some time to see what is happening in those 2 gal jars of probably the most vinegary KT ever. Lang -- Lang annalang@... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:31:10 -0000, " lillisilly " <evangelnet@...> said: > I know what you mean about the genetics---but what if what you > inherited was the *tendency* to gray (or silver!) early due to certain > dietary deficiencies? Never even thought about. I've never had a dietary deficiency in my life so it never occurred to me. > An example of this in my goats is the fact that dark haired goats, like > dark haired people, have a much higher requirement for dietary copper. > When I supplemented dietary copper for the first time, reddish brown > goats turned coal black! Brown chamoisees developed strong black > facial, leg, and martingale markings! How fascinating. Dietary copper? Does KT supply dietary copper? I really have to find some time to see what is happening in those 2 gal jars of probably the most vinegary KT ever. Lang -- Lang annalang@... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 How fascinating. Dietary copper? Does KT supply dietary copper? *I really have to find some time to see what is happening in those 2 gal jars of probably the most vinegary KT ever. Lang* I only used the goats as an example of how diet can influence genetic tendencies. Sorry for the confusion. Your " how fascinating " and " how interesting " comments kind of come across as snooty sarcasm. I hope I'm misreading that. I do not mind disagreement or discussion, it aids us all in knowing the most accurate information that will help us in our quest for health. But I do not like the feeling I get from condecension...Skepticism is a good thing, keeps us idealists off of the fringe! :-) Blessings, Jill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 How fascinating. Dietary copper? Does KT supply dietary copper? *I really have to find some time to see what is happening in those 2 gal jars of probably the most vinegary KT ever. Lang* I only used the goats as an example of how diet can influence genetic tendencies. Sorry for the confusion. Your " how fascinating " and " how interesting " comments kind of come across as snooty sarcasm. I hope I'm misreading that. I do not mind disagreement or discussion, it aids us all in knowing the most accurate information that will help us in our quest for health. But I do not like the feeling I get from condecension...Skepticism is a good thing, keeps us idealists off of the fringe! :-) Blessings, Jill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:20:14 -0000, " lillisilly " <evangelnet@...> said: > > Your " how fascinating " and " how interesting " comments kind of come > across as snooty sarcasm. I hope I'm misreading that. I do not mind > disagreement or discussion, it aids us all in knowing the most accurate > information that will help us in our quest for health. But I do not > like the feeling I get from condecension...Skepticism is a good thing, > keeps us idealists off of the fringe! :-) Is it the policy of this list to make nasty comments to each other? First Gayle and now you. I have no control over what you choose to read into my posts. Your reaction is solely your own affair. Lang -- Lang annalang@... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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