Guest guest Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 I have 7 kids, and I make 1 quart a day. I try to make sure everyone gets at least 2-4 oz a day, so if all nine of us wanted 4 oz per day I would not have enough. But I have only run out of kefir once or twice making this amount. I also try to always have less than 1 quart in the fridge so it doesn't spoil or get too tangy. When our average consumption does not use up the quart per day and the kefir starts collecting in the fridge, I will either make pancakes or muffins to use some of it up or put the quart with the grains and the milk in the fridge for a day to slow down how quickly it kefirs. I did have to play around with how much I make at a time, the quantity of grains, etc., but it doesn't take long to get into a groove. Expect that you'll use more at first because it is novel, and then everyone will settle on how much they like to drink per day. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 I would figure that you will have plenty to drink and use if you do 2 qts of milk kefir. If you let the milk kefir ferment the milk for 48 hours, there will be no lactose left. I have found that folks who have milk allergies are able to drink the 48hr kefir with no problems. I had one gal in KY call me to let me know that as long as she ate her flaxoil/kefir cheese mixture I had taught her while I was visiting my sister, she's able to eat cottage cheese, which she loves. You might want to check out www.flaxseedoil2@... for more information regarding mixing flax oil and kefir cheese for healing purposes. They use cottage cheese, but kefir cheese is easily substituted with the same results. I also think keeping the water kefir for special drinks would be good unless you make sure the sugar is used up. Have fun learning about kefir! Donna in Alaska One of my questions is this: > What kind of target should I have to support four family members using the milk kefir? I'm not used to having a lot of milk in the fridge, and I am thinking I will try to get to the point of figuring out how much we would use daily, primarily in smoothies. Anyone have a ball park estimate of where that may fall? We are also hoping that, with time, we can add my allergic son to the mix so then we would have 5 using the milk kefir. > Hope that makes sense. Thanks in advance for your help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 We have a large family (5 kids). I make 1 quart a day, but I'm thinking about starting to making 2 a day. I drink a large smoothie every morning for breakfast and my kids always want one to, but I don't always have enough. I also like to cook with it, and make " sour cream " out of it, so sometimes I don't have enough. I would start with 1 jar a day and work up from there if you think you need to. Good Luck! Lori > > First of all, I am new to this group and have found it to be a huge source of information, so thank you for that. > > I just received our milk and water grains today. We have not used cow's milk for a year as we have a dairy allergy in the family. So, we've all switched to almond milk. Under Marilyn's advice, I am going to get my water grains going and multiplying, then work with the almond milk with the extras to find the right mix for my dairy allergy child. In the meantime, our hope is to get the milk ones going for the rest of our family. We don't have a source of raw milk so will use organic (best we can do right now). One of my questions is this: > > What kind of target should I have to support four family members using the milk kefir? I'm not used to having a lot of milk in the fridge, and I am thinking I will try to get to the point of figuring out how much we would use daily, primarily in smoothies. Anyone have a ball park estimate of where that may fall? We are also hoping that, with time, we can add my allergic son to the mix so then we would have 5 using the milk kefir. > > I'm not as concerned with totals for the water as I hope to use that for special " drinks " for my kids. We don't do a lot of soda, so this may be a good alternative to water. But, on the flip side, is there a point where, between the milk, and water/almond kefir, that my kids would be drinking too much? (Especially if I am using up the grains by eating them as well?) > > Hope that makes sense. Thanks in advance for your help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hi , Sorry, it's been a while since you posted this question but I haven't had time to respond until now. Have you ever considered Homeopathy for your family? Kingbio.com has excellent remedies for allergies, detoxing, healthy body, healthy childhood, and healthy digestion are just some of the categories of remedies. They have over 250 remedies for just about any healthy condition you can think of. Homeopathy works on an electrical/energetic level in the body and actually works to correct the underlying cause for the health problem, not just the symptom. As far as your son is concerned, they have a Dairy Allergies formula which will correct his reason for having the dairy allergy. A lot of the time people have allergies to dairy is because they are drinking pasturized milk. By pasturizing the milk, it kills all the enzymes and probiotics which helps you digest the milk. People who are lactose intolerant can drink raw milk where they can't drink pasturized milk. You are doing the right thing switching to raw milk as your family will experience much better digestion. Some people experience some detoxification effects of increased mucus/colds/etc. after switching, but hold on as your body is trying to get rid of the yukky stuff it's accumulated. If you are interested in getting rid of your son's allergies (or other allergies/detoxification and getting your whole family healthy) you can go to kingbio.com or call them at 1-828-255-0201. These are over the counter remedies and don't require a doctor to purchase. You may also, if you need guidance in severe detoxification, ask when you are on the phone with them for a Naturopath or homeopath or Chiropractor or whatever health provider is in your area who carries the Professional line of products. They could help your family heal their health problems in the most efficient way. As far as how much kefir to make and give your family...hmmm. I am the only one who consumes kefir in my household and once in a while, I can get my husband to eat ice cream that I made with kefir and eat kefir cheese. I personally culture a 1/2 gallon of raw milk kefir every 48 hours. I try to drink 16 oz kefir smoothie as a meal at least once a day and sometimes will drink a glass of plain kefir late in the evening to give an extra probiotic boost before bed. Here is one option on how much kefir to culture. 16 oz per day for each adult and 8 oz for each child (might break up into smoothie meal and plain kefir before bed) per day would be 54 oz. If you culture 1/2 gallon (I love my 1/2 gallon mason jars) on day one, it takes about 48 hours to culture with 1Tbs of milk, on day 2, you can culture a second 1/2 gallon jar that will be ready in 48 hours. That would give you fresh kefir every day without much left over and no time to make it tangy and fizzy. Al Ongoing supply for a family of four/five First of all, I am new to this group and have found it to be a huge source of information, so thank you for that. I just received our milk and water grains today. We have not used cow's milk for a year as we have a dairy allergy in the family. So, we've all switched to almond milk. Under Marilyn's advice, I am going to get my water grains going and multiplying, then work with the almond milk with the extras to find the right mix for my dairy allergy child. In the meantime, our hope is to get the milk ones going for the rest of our family. We don't have a source of raw milk so will use organic (best we can do right now). One of my questions is this: What kind of target should I have to support four family members using the milk kefir? I'm not used to having a lot of milk in the fridge, and I am thinking I will try to get to the point of figuring out how much we would use daily, primarily in smoothies. Anyone have a ball park estimate of where that may fall? We are also hoping that, with time, we can add my allergic son to the mix so then we would have 5 using the milk kefir. I'm not as concerned with totals for the water as I hope to use that for special " drinks " for my kids. We don't do a lot of soda, so this may be a good alternative to water. But, on the flip side, is there a point where, between the milk, and water/almond kefir, that my kids would be drinking too much? (Especially if I am using up the grains by eating them as well?) Hope that makes sense. Thanks in advance for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Raw milk kefir does not spoil, it just gets more tangy and fizzy as the time goes by. If I find I have several jars in the fridge that I can't drink right away and don't want to put my grains in the fridge to slow them down, I just start straining out the whey with real cheese cloth from a cheese supplier and make soft kefir cheeses with it. I've flavored it with salt andbasil and its wonderful with crackers oron an omlet. Use your imagination and use your favorite flavors. Al Re: Ongoing supply for a family of four/five I have 7 kids, and I make 1 quart a day. I try to make sure everyone gets at least 2-4 oz a day, so if all nine of us wanted 4 oz per day I would not have enough. But I have only run out of kefir once or twice making this amount. I also try to always have less than 1 quart in the fridge so it doesn't spoil or get too tangy. When our average consumption does not use up the quart per day and the kefir starts collecting in the fridge, I will either make pancakes or muffins to use some of it up or put the quart with the grains and the milk in the fridge for a day to slow down how quickly it kefirs. I did have to play around with how much I make at a time, the quantity of grains, etc., but it doesn't take long to get into a groove. Expect that you'll use more at first because it is novel, and then everyone will settle on how much they like to drink per day. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Thank you for the kingbio.com info. I will definitely look into...my dh is a chiropractor, but we haven't yet pursued this avenue so I appreciate the reference. All the info you provided in this email will be very useful! > > Hi , > > Sorry, it's been a while since you posted this question but I haven't had time to respond until now. > > Have you ever considered Homeopathy for your family? Kingbio.com has excellent remedies for allergies, detoxing, healthy body, healthy childhood, and healthy digestion are just some of the categories of remedies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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