Guest guest Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 I for one would love to have fresh raw milk to make kefir with. But, like , I can't afford it right now. It would also put my marriage at risk because my husband is not supportive of it. We all do what we can. I know the benefits of a real food diet and my family is getting there, but it is a process. We don't eat many processed foods any more, and my kids think I'm slowly trying to take away everything good in their lives But we have yet to switch to raw milk. Information is great, but ultimately it is our decision. Like said " It may come as a surprise to you but I am a grown up person and I am perfectly capable of making my own decisions. " Lori N. > > Yes you are and you, and your family, will suffer the consequences of your choices. > > > Al > > > > RE: The cloud of beneficial microbes all around us > > > > > >Al, > > > >It may come as a surprise to you but I am a grown up person and I am perfectly capable of making my own decisions. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Com-on now , you sound like a guy who is able to talk about things and just agree to disagree. Hmmm, I disagree with the general population out there. Needless to say, I agree with Al, that people pay the consequences of eating processed full of additive/pesticide/hormones/ and such food stuff. Are you now in perfect health? No weight problems or other degenerative stuff going on? Really it is just a matter of fact that ill foods cause us to be ill. Well, I have had my health problems and going off the SAD foods AND gluten changed so much for the better for me. If you have ever been where I have been, ( & you will be if you are eating the nasty food stuff Americans call food) you will realize that SAD food stuff does not work. Come rally with us all with a open mind. You seem like a very creative person, you can do it. Take care, Alice > > Al, > > I have put you on my shun list. This means that I do not open your > emails. I do not read your emails. And I do not respond to your emails. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Alice, You have not been following the thread. I am not shunning Al because he disagrees with me. I in fact agree with him. I am shunning him because he is nagging me about being imperfect and having to deal with real world issues like budgets. And I have made it clear that I don't appreciate his fanaticism in the face of my budgetary constraints but it is like talking to a wall. So instead of getting my blood pressure up and " screaming " at him, I just as soon end our relationship. From: abconn@... Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:29:09 -0500 Subject: Re: The cloud of beneficial microbes all around us Com-on now , you sound like a guy who is able to talk about things and just agree to disagree. Hmmm, I disagree with the general population out there. Needless to say, I agree with Al, that people pay the consequences of eating processed full of additive/pesticide/hormones/ and such food stuff. Are you now in perfect health? No weight problems or other degenerative stuff going on? Really it is just a matter of fact that ill foods cause us to be ill. Well, I have had my health problems and going off the SAD foods AND gluten changed so much for the better for me. If you have ever been where I have been, ( & you will be if you are eating the nasty food stuff Americans call food) you will realize that SAD food stuff does not work. Come rally with us all with a open mind. You seem like a very creative person, you can do it. Take care, Alice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 That is perfectly fine with me!!! Maybe not we can get some interesting and informative discussions. Al RE: The cloud of beneficial microbes all around us > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Its more expensive to use pasteurized milk and non-organic/GMO food...you have more illness and disease and pay for a lot more doctor visits...therefore, its cheaper to go with the raw organic and organic foods to avoid the doctor down the road. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Al > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Al the milk from the cow on antibiotics cannot be added to the bulk tank. There are milk testers who check each dairy farm. Lee Anne, Pennsylvania > > Marilyn, > > How do you know antibiotics are not in the milk, who is your source for this info? Do you have a non-gov or non-big dairy industry or non-big pharma source. CAFO cows are fed gmo's and lots of stuff that is not food. They have to give the cows antibiotics or they will die. I think this is one of the reasons that a lot of people have shrinking grains and their milk is not organic. > > Al > > Re: Re: The cloud of beneficial microbes all around us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no antibiotics in store milk. Otherwise, the kefir grains wouldn't > > work in it. The antibiotic word always seems to get into the line up of > > negative words describing store milk. > > > > Marilyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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