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In a message dated 2/6/2003 9:49:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, dale@...

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> The only other suggestion I have is that if you are otherwise happy with

> your

> doctors and only unhappy in their lack of knowlege, is, EDUCATE THEM!

I'm pretty new here. My daughter was diagnosed with an immune deficiency

during a recent hospitalization for a very severe pneumonia. After her

diagnosis I got on the computer and started reading, joined this group, and

was directed to the IDF chapter leader. She sent me some information, (thank

you Dale), and also sent a packet to our doctor. I just realized this minute

that that's probably why he ordered more tests on her last time. I had been

asking him what the actual name of her deficiency was and he seemed not to

know. Now all of a sudden he's looking at her B cells and T cells, etc.. I

would urge you to learn as much as you can and then educate your doctor or

find a new one. Good luck to you~~

Belinda

Lacey's mom, (15, CdLS, IgG deficiency)

Pittsburg, CA

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First, big hugs to you! You sound so terribly worried and scared! Several

of the more experienced people on this list will respond soon, but I was

on-line when you message came across, so I'll tell you my story. The more

experienced people can give you more details.

My daughter Rebekah makes no IgA. Her total IgG is low and her IgG3 and

IgG4 subclasses are low. She has had no response to her vaccinations

(except to become acutely ill!) which means that her vaccinations haven't

" taken " . She had lots of non-life-threatening infections from birth. She

developed anemia and that is how they diagnosed her immune problem at age 2.

She now receives IVIG (intravenous immunoglobulin) every 21 days at home and

in on antibiotics every day to prevent infections for getting serious.

You can read more about immune deficiencies at this website.

http://www.primaryimmune.org/

You definitely should call the Immune Deficiency Foundation today at this

number:

800.296.4433

There likely is a lot more that can be done for your son!

Pam

wife to (16 years)

mother to , 9, Hannah, 6, Rebekah, 3, and Leah, 1

Rebekah has CVID and maybe some other stuff

help

my son has iga deficiency and his igg subclasses are not working

well all his immunegollbins are low and they say there is no

treatment that we will treat acute infections. he has asthma anemia

and ezcema. he is also having problems with his right leg and hip. I

was told to keep him in a bubble wash hands often and to proct him

is that all that is out there???????????????????

This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a

Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the

sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional

advice.

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from Dale, Mom to Katy, CVID, age 18

Pam -- you sound experienced to me!

Also, from the IDF you can secure names of chapter leaders in your state (if

there are any) who can direct you to immunologist who are familiar with

testing and treatment.

Your doctors are correct that there is not a cure YET, but there is treatment

and that treatment (IVIG or SubQIG) will prevent an awful lot of the

infections that can cause damage for his future.

The only other suggestion I have is that if you are otherwise happy with your

doctors and only unhappy in their lack of knowlege, is, EDUCATE THEM! Katy's

doctor had NEVER seen a patient with CVID, never read about it, knew NOTHING.

But, she loved Katy and was willing to learn. So, we learned together. She

shared her research with me, I shared my research with her - and Katy

benefitted from her care! If that's the case, please give your doctors this

number: 1-877-666-0866. That's the number for the consulting immunologist

program and is free to doctors who are caring for a patient with PID. They

can ask the detailed questions that they need to know about proper testing and

treatment that is absolutely the most current available. No textbook on this

disease will be up-to-date because new research is being done as we speak.

Also, if you want to share with the group what state you are in, you might

locate others in your area that can guide you to knowledgable doctors -- but

that's up to you.

Hang in there. There's a few questions I would like to ask. Feel free to

answer them or ignore them. #1 what is your first name? #2 How old is your

son? #3 Has he had the titers checked to his vaccinations?

God bless you today and you sort through all these replies, but most of all I

pray that you'll feel empowered to do whatever is necessary to get your son

the help he needs and deserves. That's our job as parents and this group is

ready to give you as much information as you wish. We just don't want to

totally overwhelm you. So, a simple answer is No! That's not all that can be

done for your son.

In His service,

Dale

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dauson is 20 months old and the pedatricition said she does not know the

significance of his igg subclasses being low. I am scared because the doctor

doesn't seem to know any thing about this....

Re: help

:

I'll write more later but please remind me, how old is your son? Because we

were told to just protect our daughter and wait also, because we were waiting

to see how all the additional tests came back, waiting to do more

immunizations and test responses, plus there's always the hope with those

under 2 or 3 yrs old that their systems will improve with age.

In fact, we were told our daughter's problems were NOT transient and would

not improve, but almost all of her problems DID improve as she got older. So

there may be hope.

(mom to Kate, born 9/19/02; and , age 4 -- currently has

polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell &

other defs)

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my name is stephanie my son is dauson age 20 months. They have not yet checked

his tithers . The doc said she is afraid his immunizations haven't worked but I

am not sure when she is going to check them. Thank you for your time and

knowledge it is very much appreciated..

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from Dale, Mom to Katy, CVID, age 18

Pam -- you sound experienced to me!

Also, from the IDF you can secure names of chapter leaders in your state (if

there are any) who can direct you to immunologist who are familiar with

testing and treatment.

Your doctors are correct that there is not a cure YET, but there is treatment

and that treatment (IVIG or SubQIG) will prevent an awful lot of the

infections that can cause damage for his future.

The only other suggestion I have is that if you are otherwise happy with your

doctors and only unhappy in their lack of knowlege, is, EDUCATE THEM! Katy's

doctor had NEVER seen a patient with CVID, never read about it, knew NOTHING.

But, she loved Katy and was willing to learn. So, we learned together. She

shared her research with me, I shared my research with her - and Katy

benefitted from her care! If that's the case, please give your doctors this

number: 1-877-666-0866. That's the number for the consulting immunologist

program and is free to doctors who are caring for a patient with PID. They

can ask the detailed questions that they need to know about proper testing and

treatment that is absolutely the most current available. No textbook on this

disease will be up-to-date because new research is being done as we speak.

Also, if you want to share with the group what state you are in, you might

locate others in your area that can guide you to knowledgable doctors -- but

that's up to you.

Hang in there. There's a few questions I would like to ask. Feel free to

answer them or ignore them. #1 what is your first name? #2 How old is your

son? #3 Has he had the titers checked to his vaccinations?

God bless you today and you sort through all these replies, but most of all I

pray that you'll feel empowered to do whatever is necessary to get your son

the help he needs and deserves. That's our job as parents and this group is

ready to give you as much information as you wish. We just don't want to

totally overwhelm you. So, a simple answer is No! That's not all that can be

done for your son.

In His service,

Dale

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In a message dated 2/8/2003 11:04:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mick8_7@... writes:

> and she looked at me and said like autism? " I said yes something like that.I

> never want to be put in this postion again answerless for a sweet little

> girl.I would like to find a short sweet answer a child can understand.The

> word retarded came to my mind surely she could understand that but thats

> not the answer I gave or want to give.Can anyone help me here?Love

Laurie,

When children ask me what DS is, I respond by saying that we all are made

up of certain material and Maddie has extra. If a child is very young, you

don't need to go into scientific mumbo jumbo. When they ask why she does

certain things, I explain that she also has autism which makes it harder for

her to communicate or understand what to do. Recently a little one asked

me why Maddie jumps at the same time she bounces her ball..I said, " Because

she can; she's very talented " ....;-) When Alison (10, NDA) was in

second grade, I went in to her classroom and gave a talk on DS (didn't touch

on autism, figured it was too much at once). First I read the book " We'll

Paint the Octopus Red " to them, then had an open question and answer session

in which Allie answered the most (I only popped in for some she didn't

understand). It was very cute and Allie felt very smart and empowered!!

She still adores talking about her little sister. Duff took her to Florida

once to visit some friends and it was so funny!!! She sat next to a woman

and talked the entire flight about her little sister Madison who is 8 (last

summer) and can dribble a ball really well, can run real fast, loves to spin,

is a great climber, is working on learning to go on the potty....she never

mentioned that Maddie had a disability.....LOLOLOL

Mic is still quite young, Laurie. I would go ahead and let myself feel

those emotions you are having. Go into the bathtub for a soak and have a

good cry; it doesn't mean you love Mic any less. Sometimes it feels good

afterwards!!!

{{{{{hugs}}}}}}

Donna

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,

We ended up changing pediatricians before we found one who could even

recognize that Rebekah was unusually sick. I truly don't think that he

would have known the significance of low IgG's. And he was a good ped. He

just wasn't one of those peds who's willing to run tests to get to the

bottom of the problem.

So, I called friends all over town to ask about their peds and looked for

one who had really good diagnostic skills. And when we got several

referrals to our current ped, we made an appointment and carried copies of

the medical records to him. We also had a calendar with the dates of her

illnesses, fevers, drugs taken, diagnoses, etc. marked so he could get an

idea of the frequency of the illnesses. Documentation was a key part of

getting Rebekah's problems taken seriously since she had never been

hospitalized for anything.

From there, he referred us to a pediatric oncologist who diagnosed the

problem but didn't know how to treat it. Then, I found this group and

learned about an immunologist about 250 miles away (we live in rural

Minnesota, everything is miles and miles away!). All in all, it took 5

solid months of work and referrals to get to a doctor who was very familiar

with the disease. But, along the way, we found a great ped who worked with

us to keep the infections down and an oncologist who got us started on IVIG

treatment.

Now, we are on treatment every 21 days and I'm probably the only mom in my

town with a small collection of antibiotic prescriptions all with 99

refills! My ped doesn't want us to end up sick over the weekend and have

nothing to fight the germs with.

Pam

wife to (16 years)

mother to , 9, Hannah, 6, Rebekah, 3, and Leah, 1

Re: help

dauson is 20 months old and the pedatricition said she does not know the

significance of his igg subclasses being low. I am scared because the doctor

doesn't seem to know any thing about this....

Re: help

:

I'll write more later but please remind me, how old is your son? Because

we

were told to just protect our daughter and wait also, because we were

waiting

to see how all the additional tests came back, waiting to do more

immunizations and test responses, plus there's always the hope with those

under 2 or 3 yrs old that their systems will improve with age.

In fact, we were told our daughter's problems were NOT transient and would

not improve, but almost all of her problems DID improve as she got older.

So

there may be hope.

(mom to Kate, born 9/19/02; and , age 4 -- currently has

polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell &

other defs)

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Go for it and add more water. Thats how I drink my shakes with 16018

ozs of h2o! There are also some good recipes for the shales at Body

for Life, just dont go crazy with the fruit, you don't want too much

carbs!

Jen

In , " Betty <bgovas@r...> "

<bgovas@r...> wrote:

> Hello everyone

> I just bout a box of Myoplex vanilla flavoured light powder and I

> can't drink the stuff. It has a very strong after taste and it

> smells very fake. Iwas wondering if anyone else had a similar

> experience with this? I was also wondering if I add more water to

> it would it change the product? It says to add 12oz of water and I

> was thinking of adding 4oz more. Can someone please help me.

> Betty

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I prefer chocolate, but I got a really good deal on vanilla protein

powder. I add a packet of FF/sugar free instant cocoa.

Becky

> Hello everyone

> I just bout a box of Myoplex vanilla flavoured light powder and I

> can't drink the stuff. It has a very strong after taste and it

> smells very fake. Iwas wondering if anyone else had a similar

> experience with this? I was also wondering if I add more water to

> it would it change the product? It says to add 12oz of water and I

> was thinking of adding 4oz more. Can someone please help me.

> Betty

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You can add as much water as you want to that stuff. That won't

change its nutritional properties. However, have you checked into

returning it? Depending on where you bought it, it might be real

easy. Or, check the packaging to see if EAS will take it back (maybe

there's a satisfaction guarantee)?

> Hello everyone

> I just bout a box of Myoplex vanilla flavoured light powder and I

> can't drink the stuff. It has a very strong after taste and it

> smells very fake. Iwas wondering if anyone else had a similar

> experience with this? I was also wondering if I add more water to

> it would it change the product? It says to add 12oz of water and I

> was thinking of adding 4oz more. Can someone please help me.

> Betty

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we had the same problem with Trisha and couldn't find covers to fit our old

handles either so we just took them off and put them on as we needed them. I

just recently put them back on and so far Trisha has not bothered them again.

I will admit it was a pain having to put the handle on and off each time we

used it, but the outcome so far has been rewarding and I can actually turn

the water on now without having to put the handle back on. It might not

sound like much, but on the rare occasions that I can actually go take a hot

soak, it's so nice not to have to dig the handles out of hiding and put them

on. lol

Carol

April is Autism Awareness Month

Trishasmom

She isn't typical, She's Trisha!

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we had the same problem with Trisha and couldn't find covers to fit our old

handles either so we just took them off and put them on as we needed them. I

just recently put them back on and so far Trisha has not bothered them again.

I will admit it was a pain having to put the handle on and off each time we

used it, but the outcome so far has been rewarding and I can actually turn

the water on now without having to put the handle back on. It might not

sound like much, but on the rare occasions that I can actually go take a hot

soak, it's so nice not to have to dig the handles out of hiding and put them

on. lol

Carol

April is Autism Awareness Month

Trishasmom

She isn't typical, She's Trisha!

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Donna,

Try this place. I found the cover for the heat regulator here.

> http://www.aubuchonhardware.com/search.asp?searchType=0 & search=urinal

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 08:50 AM, Duffey48@... wrote:

> Hey gang,

>    I have been searching for something protective for our bath tub

> knobs.  

> Maddie goes in there and turns on the hot all the time.   I found door

> knob

> covers but they are too small for our old fashioned type handles.    My

> sister told me there's a clear hard plastic thing that covers them

> completely

> and you snap it shut.....I can't find it anywhere.    Ideas on where to

> find

> something like this guys?  Also, I saw a hasp on Homedepot.com that

> might

> work for my fridge.

> Donna

>

>

>

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In a message dated 3/8/2003 1:48:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

vmgillen@... writes:

> (I can only have solid doors and lathe-and-plaster walls: he punches through

> hollow doors and plasterboard!). So my caveat is do what you have to do to

> hold the fort, but try to address the behaviour as soon as possible, 'cause

> kids will keep " up-ing the ante " 'til you're living in a concrete bunker

> with no furnishings!

LOLOLOL Vicki!!!! Oh yea, I know. YOu know, all my girlfriends used to

comment because I never moved things for my kids......they were taught NOT to

touch certain things. They would come over my house and move all my

knickknacks to high ground and be amazed that my kids didn't break

them.....THEN came Maddie!!!!! Well, most times at home, she is actually

very obedient. The object is to catch her BEFORE she does

something......when she's about to hurl something, I'll go... " AH AH AH " and

she stops. However, if caught mid-deed, she'll hurl it anyway and run like

hell.....LOLOL

<<Where does that leave the child when confronted by a predator? Sorry, I'm

in a rather morbid mood today, prompted by the latest " Community

Notification " under Meagan's Law: I get a notice that a person has been

released. No name, no photo, the crime was having sex with a female(???) and

the advice that I should remain " alert " . Like terrorists aren't enough!!!>>

OMG Vicki!! HOw scary!!! How much info do they actually give you under

's law?

Gail, I read your cute story on how the girls would *fake* cry to make Seth

stop turning off the TV and how it upset him (too funny). Unfortunately

that doesn't work with Maddie. She's missing that whole empathy piece.

Well, really it's not that so much as she doesn't know how to process those

emotions from other people yet. She's getting there....she always knows

happy (sometimes it takes time to connect and then she gets it) and sometimes

she knows mad (like when she runs away after doing something she knows she

shouldn't), but that *sad* part hasn't come yet.

Donna

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I did (and still do) a lot of enviro mods. Tobegin with, it was fairly easy

because there are som many things out there for toddlers. Toys R Us is a good

source. While these continue to work for my daughter (Downs), my son (ASD) has

the fine motor skills of a micro-surgeon, coupled with the strength of a

quarterback and the problem-solving skills of a physical engineer. Hence the

plexiglass/padlock constructions (I can only have solid doors and

lathe-and-plaster walls: he punches through hollow doors and plasterboard!). So

my caveat is do what you have to do to hold the fort, but try to address the

behaviour as soon as possible, 'cause kids will keep " up-ing the ante " 'til

you're living in a concrete bunker with no furnishings! and consider the sort of

restrictive environment your child would ultimately require. I know that's a

stretch when you have young kids, and you're just trying to live day-to-day. On

a different topic, sort of, I have been very concerned that so much of the

interventions both kids receive are based on compliance. Where does that leave

the child when confronted by a predator? Sorry, I'm in a rather morbid mood

today, prompted by the latest " Community Notification " under Meagan's Law: I get

a notice that a person has been released. No name, no photo, the crime was

having sex with a female(???) and the advice that I should remain " alert " . Like

terrorists aren't enough!!!

Vicki

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I did (and still do) a lot of enviro mods. Tobegin with, it was fairly easy

because there are som many things out there for toddlers. Toys R Us is a good

source. While these continue to work for my daughter (Downs), my son (ASD) has

the fine motor skills of a micro-surgeon, coupled with the strength of a

quarterback and the problem-solving skills of a physical engineer. Hence the

plexiglass/padlock constructions (I can only have solid doors and

lathe-and-plaster walls: he punches through hollow doors and plasterboard!). So

my caveat is do what you have to do to hold the fort, but try to address the

behaviour as soon as possible, 'cause kids will keep " up-ing the ante " 'til

you're living in a concrete bunker with no furnishings! and consider the sort of

restrictive environment your child would ultimately require. I know that's a

stretch when you have young kids, and you're just trying to live day-to-day. On

a different topic, sort of, I have been very concerned that so much of the

interventions both kids receive are based on compliance. Where does that leave

the child when confronted by a predator? Sorry, I'm in a rather morbid mood

today, prompted by the latest " Community Notification " under Meagan's Law: I get

a notice that a person has been released. No name, no photo, the crime was

having sex with a female(???) and the advice that I should remain " alert " . Like

terrorists aren't enough!!!

Vicki

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You don't have to go to the gym. All you need to work out at home is

an adjustable bench, about 75$ and a good set of dumbbells. I got

the kind that add you the plates too. It takes up less space than

having all the different pairs.

At the gym you just have a wider range of machines to use for when

you change your workouts.

Check out www.abcbodybuilding.com for exercise how to. It has little

animations with most of the exercises.

Debra

> Hi,

> I'm really kind of new to all this.I've tried all kinds of

> different yoyo diets and nothing works. I have the BFL book. Have

> read through it, but don't entirely understand how to do all these

> exercises. Do you go to a gym? I have a membership to my husbands

> gym at work, but all these men come in. Needless to say, I feel a

> bit awkward. :) I've been exercising in the mornings w/

> Austin, and am feeling much more energetic. I'd like to get the fat

> off and get healthy .

> Thanks in advance,

> Patti

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Ack! I hope you heal quickly!

For cardio, you could always try a stationary bike. I did that for a

long time after a foot injury that kept me from putting too much

weight on it. Start out easy though, you don't want to injure it more.

HTH,

Maggie

> Help! I fell down the stairs and broke my foot in 2 places. I am

in

> the middle of week 8? I need to finish this challenge? WHat can i

> do for cardio? Thanks...D

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Sorry to hear of your fall. Do you swim? That would be non-weight bearing

HELP

Help! I fell down the stairs and broke my foot in 2 places. I am in

the middle of week 8? I need to finish this challenge? WHat can i

do for cardio? Thanks...D

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From: firemaster [mailto:firemaster@...]

Sent: 23 April 2003 10:43

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Subject: Help

I don't know if you can help, but I'm looking for a (or more) medics in

Rotterdam. Any of your members over there?

This is for a potentially lucrative contract drug and alcohol testing

cargo and cruise ships.

If you do have any members, if they could get in touch with me that

would be brilliant (ASAP as well).

My home email (not this one) is freelancemedics@....

Thanks

Roy Spearman

Freelance Medical Services

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